Sometimes due to a lack of copyright-free footage, we have to rely on explaining. We're sorry you weren't able to build a picture from our efforts. - TB
A drive in the 747 was what I came to this video to see. I know what the drives themselves look like having used many, I wanted to see where the slot is on the 747.
@@nntflow7058 I knew how to install games onto DOS and configure PCs, if you're at all interested! Also knew that CD roms were all the rage back then #Retro
Wow, what trains are these?? I'm a train driver and now I'm curious if my trains use the same technology (PS now that I think about it, I recall seeing mechanics use USB memories to download data from the registering device, so I'm afraid we ditched the floppies already)
A friend of mine was supply-teaching a night class for computer greenhorns in the early 90's. He was questioned by one student as to why the floppy disk wasn't fitting into the slot correctly. After explaining to the woman that folding a 5.25" in two and trying to jam it into a 3.5" slot wouldn't work, he had to leave the room for a short time so as not to embarrass her. He told me that most of these people thought he could walk on water. Oh, the good ole days!
My kids were born in 2006 and 2010. I asked and they both knew what a floppy disk was. However, when my daughter was younger she saw an LP for the first time and asked me what it was. I had the whole bookstore in stitches when I told her that's what CDs used to look like.
The funny thing is the vinyl industry is still going strong on the myth that LPs are higher fidelity than digital. It would be like if VCR companies convinced people that the tracking lines on home cassettes were an essential part of the experience
I remember saving and downloading software onto my TRS-80 using a cassette recorder. I wished I could get a "floppy disk" drive because it was so much faster and unlike the tape recorder, there was no volume control you had to have on a certain setting.
I saw it on BIG JET TV video when Jerry met the captain of one of Virgin Atlantic's 747-400's where he loaded the floppy disk that had the flights data on it so yeah, it's pretty ancient technology.
The EMB-135/145 used them as well and it would take 30-45 min to update one unless you had a bad disk, then it was two or three times as long. Try buying new ones! I always had to order them in bulk from Amazon, they're about the only place I could still find them. A few years ago the aircraft started being upgraded with an Ethernet ports and the company I am at now has data loader with a usb port.
5.25inch discs were never encased in hard plastic shells. At the point the audio says this the video shows a clearly floppy 5.25inch disc being inserted into a drive.
@@SimpleFlyingNews Wow thanks for the response am humbled. But still surprised that they have to be updated. Can't they be updated via satellite or internet?
Daniel Esimu when I was working in a role where I had to update small aircraft, the newer ones used USB sticks and SD cards. But the older aircraft types stuck by floppy disks. I guess it just removes the margin for error, it wouldn’t be great if an update got stuck halfway. - TB
@@SimpleFlyingNews Thanks so much for the info. I was an intern engineer in air navigation systems (at our airport and across the country), and imagine I never knew this. You have won yourself a subscriber.
I wondered why the video system (tablet) is so bad on the airplane. It's probably from the same era as the floppy disk. They don't mess with the bureaucracy to update it.
Data loading with wireless network will make plane to be easily hack and high Jack. Though, elimination of 28 day engineer will be replaced with cyber security experts, yet another twist.
5 1/4 " disks were never enclosed in hard plastic shells. It was the big 8" floppies, then 5 1/4" floppies, and only then 3 1/2" floppies that were enclosed in hard plastic. BTW I have an advert for a 10mb hard drive from 1977. It was $3398 which accounting for inflation comes to $14,574 today.
I was born after 2000 and I’m in an IT field I still use 3 1/2 inch floppy disks because of their security if you drop one who is going to buy a drive just to read that?
Yeah about the fact that they would like to rely on wifi to update the planes... They already can't keep the bugs out of smartphones updates, just imagine what could happen if the avionics goes black because the pilot typed in a special character.
This is not rare. Many expensive machinery still on floppy drives, CNC, Medical, giant telephone exchange systems .... They still have some lifespam left. Same goes to ATM using XP, or P&P using NT4
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Most people born after the turn of the millennium would actually know what it is...
It is the save icon that they use on numerous computer programs.
You'd be surprised that a lot more of us know what these are.
At least a 747 doesn't complain when you stick in a three and a half inch floppy.
Lol 🤣
bahahaha
Nowadays, people say "remember when they used floppy disks?" In a few years, people will say "remember when they used to use jumbo jets?"
Sad :(
Well, it is true at least
At least we will see 747-8s
Floppy disks still used in 2020 for such an important task.. quite amazing stuff.
it's more because they don't want to spend money installing usb ports into all the instruments
Disappointed that this video does not include video of the floppy disk on the 747
Sometimes due to a lack of copyright-free footage, we have to rely on explaining. We're sorry you weren't able to build a picture from our efforts. - TB
A drive in the 747 was what I came to this video to see. I know what the drives themselves look like having used many, I wanted to see where the slot is on the 747.
Kids these days... Dad, what's that thing that looks like the save icon?
GTA San Andreas?
@@nntflow7058 I guess sarcasm and humour is lost on you
@@nntflow7058 I knew how to install games onto DOS and configure PCs, if you're at all interested! Also knew that CD roms were all the rage back then #Retro
I still remember floppy discs in the early 2000s
I used to load games on our Commodore 64 off audio cassettes.
2002 that's when memory sticks took over.
I still have my floppy disc and the sound never gets old when read/write on the disc.
Yep i still use mine to write
We still use a style of flop disks to download info from the data recorder on the trains I work on 👍🏻 only 6mb cards
Wow, what trains are these?? I'm a train driver and now I'm curious if my trains use the same technology
(PS now that I think about it, I recall seeing mechanics use USB memories to download data from the registering device, so I'm afraid we ditched the floppies already)
osasunaitor we have a 14x 15x fleet that all use cards. Our newer units are remotely downloaded or just a USB
@@Poultusspare Which country?
osasunaitor UK
@@Poultusspare Oh okay!
Sneakernet is old (very old) but relatively secure.
I thought this was a repeat but it was the computer memory episode I was thinking of
A friend of mine was supply-teaching a night class for computer greenhorns in the early 90's. He was questioned by one student as to why the floppy disk wasn't fitting into the slot correctly. After explaining to the woman that folding a 5.25" in two and trying to jam it into a 3.5" slot wouldn't work, he had to leave the room for a short time so as not to embarrass her. He told me that most of these people thought he could walk on water. Oh, the good ole days!
Interesting, never knew that. I like floppy disks, so I'm happy you made this video.
Thanks for the feedback! -JS
My kids were born in 2006 and 2010. I asked and they both knew what a floppy disk was. However, when my daughter was younger she saw an LP for the first time and asked me what it was. I had the whole bookstore in stitches when I told her that's what CDs used to look like.
The funny thing is the vinyl industry is still going strong on the myth that LPs are higher fidelity than digital. It would be like if VCR companies convinced people that the tracking lines on home cassettes were an essential part of the experience
Wonderful video regarding floppy disks used in b747..Loved it much
5.25” floppies... wouldn’t call those “encased in hard plastic shells.” The 3.5”, sure.
Yeah the 5.25 were still floppy
Interesting the 747 is upgraded with floppy disks
Thank you for repeating almost literally the title of the video
The title does not describe the video well enough thank you for telling me
How floppy are those floppy disks though?
I am not surprised. As a aircraft engineer, I always see it in the workshop.
Loved seeing the BOAC 747
Yes. Very surprised !!! Certification and testing takes time. Which is why you cant tamper with planes the way you would with cars
I remember saving and downloading software onto my TRS-80 using a cassette recorder. I wished I could get a "floppy disk" drive because it was so much faster and unlike the tape recorder, there was no volume control you had to have on a certain setting.
getting so retro we're using punch cards
I saw it on BIG JET TV video when Jerry met the captain of one of Virgin Atlantic's 747-400's where he loaded the floppy disk that had the flights data on it so yeah, it's pretty ancient technology.
It’s nothing surprising 747-400 Was designed in the late 80s it was the technology of the time so absolutely no surprise
Really Surprising !!!!
The EMB-135/145 used them as well and it would take 30-45 min to update one unless you had a bad disk, then it was two or three times as long. Try buying new ones! I always had to order them in bulk from Amazon, they're about the only place I could still find them. A few years ago the aircraft started being upgraded with an Ethernet ports and the company I am at now has data loader with a usb port.
I hope the 747 doesnt have problem with dirty floppy disk head reader....
I mean, Minuteman nuclear missile silo launch controls are still run on floppy disks too.
At least they aren't laserdisc or zip drives (which still get used in some places too)
5.25inch discs were never encased in hard plastic shells. At the point the audio says this the video shows a clearly floppy 5.25inch disc being inserted into a drive.
Wowwwwwww!! Interesting 😉
Its over 20 years since i last used a floppy
18 years for me.
What the heck, am surprise that aircrafts are updated at all.
They're updated every four weeks when new aeronautical data is released. - TB
@@SimpleFlyingNews Wow thanks for the response am humbled. But still surprised that they have to be updated.
Can't they be updated via satellite or internet?
Daniel Esimu when I was working in a role where I had to update small aircraft, the newer ones used USB sticks and SD cards. But the older aircraft types stuck by floppy disks. I guess it just removes the margin for error, it wouldn’t be great if an update got stuck halfway. - TB
@@SimpleFlyingNews Thanks so much for the info. I was an intern engineer in air navigation systems (at our airport and across the country), and imagine I never knew this.
You have won yourself a subscriber.
Thanks for the feedback! Happy to help :) - TB
Dead 💀 surprised 😮, Dat’s me.. Thought they’d use a more up-to-date medium. Floppy disks 💾 are *oldskool*!
I wondered why the video system (tablet) is so bad on the airplane. It's probably from the same era as the floppy disk. They don't mess with the bureaucracy to update it.
737-700 NG still use it too
Very Surprised! ! :0
LSE 3 System Quite interesting
There were also 12” floppy disks.
I still use them
747-400 does not mind when we stick a 3.5" floppy disk
Not surprised at all TBH.Lots of legacy tech still floating around, just ask NASA :)
Yup surprised
The Q400 still uses ZIP Disks!
McLaren F1 cars came with a laptop that can be used to remotely diagnose them. They were cutting edge at the time but now they are fossils.
At least no one can hack a plane wirelessly if they keep using floppies... 🤓
Data loading with wireless network will make plane to be easily hack and high Jack. Though, elimination of 28 day engineer will be replaced with cyber security experts, yet another twist.
Yeahh, and it's harder to put a virus onto the floppy as nobody has floppy units.
Nah i'm not surprised since you only made a video the other day saying it
You're very fun in parties aren't you.
Isnt't the ISS upgraded with magnetic tapes ?? ;)
5 1/4 " disks were never enclosed in hard plastic shells. It was the big 8" floppies, then 5 1/4" floppies, and only then 3 1/2" floppies that were enclosed in hard plastic. BTW I have an advert for a 10mb hard drive from 1977. It was $3398 which accounting for inflation comes to $14,574 today.
10mb is the entire database of a multinational corporation
But its only got 1.5 megabytes? They definitely need a system upgrade, but then again if it works why change it.
I was born after 2000 and I’m in an IT field I still use 3 1/2 inch floppy disks because of their security if you drop one who is going to buy a drive just to read that?
Yeah about the fact that they would like to rely on wifi to update the planes... They already can't keep the bugs out of smartphones updates, just imagine what could happen if the avionics goes black because the pilot typed in a special character.
This is not rare. Many expensive machinery still on floppy drives, CNC, Medical, giant telephone exchange systems .... They still have some lifespam left. Same goes to ATM using XP, or P&P using NT4
why use floppy disks? because they're harder to copy due to the limitations of possessing older equipment
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That is not a floppy disk. Floppys are like 5 1/2" square or so and actually floppy
Later floppy disks were 3 1/2 inch and enclosed in a hard shell.
@@MidnightThunderYT Those hard floppy disks aren't real floppys tho
@@jl3059 They are!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk#%E2%80%8B3_1⁄2-inch_floppy_disk
www.computerhope.com/jargon/f/floppydi.htm
Surprised to see this!
Why can’t they just update them over the air?!!
They 3D printed the save icon
I thought that the engineers did the same what we car guys do to remap our ECUs lmao
The B747 is from a similar era as the A320???
When the 747 was introduced, Airbus didn't even exist yet and the A320 wasn't even their first jet!
He’s talking about the 747-400
Just like how people who are film experts say that film is better than cd
U GUYS STARTED UPLOADING AT 9 PM IST
TILL YESTERDAY FROM 1 WEEK U WERE UPLOADING AT 830 IST
I'm from India and they always upload at 9pm IST
@@mgsaviation9292 I AGREE BUT A FEW DA'YS THEY UPLOADED AT 830
Why all caps?
Actually all would have seen it in some point of their lives. Its called the save button.
SO RETRO
Not surprising at all. One of my cars has an odb port and one doesn’t. Simply because they are from different era’s.
people have very bad memory. i am born after 2000 and know what a floppy disc is
But have you ever used them?
No, not really.
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