As a full time TH-camr I also buy on a budget and have spent a bit of money on buying from Ali Express. A sleeping pad, tarp, apg cooking system similar to jetboil but way cheaper, gaiters, camera bag, gopro camera light and lav mic etc. Also bought a pair of ali express boots but they were pretty bad on the feet especially where I go and having a pack on, so splashed out on a pair of hunting/ trekking boots with vibram soles as I do a few river crossings getting wet feet all the time. Definitely can save money just really need to look at the reviews on product to see how good stuff is. Hope you guys get out after lockdown, we are pretty lucky here in NZ
An impressive base weight and pack size there, Trev! Fingers crossed it's not too long before you're allowed to go. There's talk that camp sites and hospitality could be allowed to reopen in July. Failing that, just change your last name to Cummings and head off in the morning......... All the best!
Hahaa! Yea, I might just do that, if it goes on much further. The weird thing is, my brother has been night fishing over the last few weeks, as most fishing ponds are permitting that... surely thats the same thing?! Oh, well. I will be good boy and wait!
Nice 0ne Trev, during the lockdown I have kept myself busy sorting out all my kit ready for the all clear to get back out in the hills. Oh and lots of garden camping..!! All the best. See you in the hills.
Nice one Trev. I'm really amazed you do it all with a 30L bag. Your med and safety supplies are good - gave me some ideas where I could improve my own. I also might get a lighter sleeping bag for summer (this summer, with luck) like the one you use. I use a dehydrator at home for my camping meals, just put a portion aside of whatever I've cooked for dinner and put it in for 12 hours, done! Saves so much over buying them and they're as tasty as they were fresh, a bit of hot water later
I have looked at dehydrators in the past, but watched some videos of people spending days to dehydrate their meals only to mess it all up and throw them out haha. Maybe something I should take another look at. The naturehike sleeping bag is a great little purchase. A bit pricier than most bags but still a decent price when talking compact down sleeping bags. Thanks for watching.
Love your videos... for a couple of years. This is not critical... but there is a lot of great second hand stuff that is hardly used! Just a few thoughts; I am a real fan of bargain gear but try to make good choices: 12 tents, 4 tarps, 5 packs, 9 sleeping bags, 12 stoves/cooking systems... So, a few mistakes! Typical pack weight: 8kg inc food and water. As a guide to lightweight camping, I'd always ask, "What if I lost a few pounds..." I've several tents 1.5 kg or less. All less than £70. I'd only take a pole tent if I used poles to walk with. Oex down bag and mattress from Go Outdoors works for the summer. The main change I'd make is the pack... My Osprey 38 changed my life! I'd love to create a contrasting video - just to compare ideas - but I think that the technology would defeat me!
Thats a lot of trial and error haha. I am generally happy with my set up, but always on the lookout for more budget equipment and ways to save weight.. I do scowl ebay for cheaper expensive =gear (if that makes sense) but even then a lot of the gear is still quite a whack. Maybe at some point I will fork out for an osprey pack - will be good to take something decent to the Himalaya's with me - but at the moment a £20-£30 bag has done the job fine. I like to come home having bought 2 items for the price of one. Cheers for watching!
I like the repack part of the video, very easy to underestimate the importance of how you pack your pack. Do it over and over again so that you know where everything is, especially when it gets cold and dark quickly. Although I'm sure from your experience Trev that you don't leave it until the last minute. I remember watching your early videos and wondering if I could do an overnighter, now it just seems very normal.
Me... leave it to the last minute???? No, of course not 🙄. I do feel a lot more confident preparing for overnighters now though, I must admit, but my secret is lists. I write one all week leading up, keep it on me, add to it and then whittle it down and alter through the week and then make sure that everything I need is packed and ticked off before I leave. Thanks for watching, glad that you are enjoying the camping yourself - certainly adds to the outdoors experience. Cheers!
Good update Trevor, covers all the bases. Obviously things change season/weather depending and personal choice - for example I wouldn't go without a hydration bladder (platypus zip I find the best) as well as a water filter. Pre prepared meals as discussed before in the mylar pouches are easy and simple, even decant the instant porridge pots into them. I'd also have spare socks, shreddies and foot powder. Gaffa tape round poles or water bottle as an alternative. If I have my dogs with me I'd always have a bespoke dog 1st aid kit including tick tweezers and blood clotting powder in case they catch a claw. Plus of course their food. 2-3 days fits in my 36l Osprey stratos no problem including micro tent, doss bag and wimp mat. 3-4 days scale up on the food accordingly and maybe a 45-50l bergan.
Yea, I seemed to have over looked clothes in this lot - probably just pack some spare socks and undies and warn passers by to stay down wind from me hahah. Thanks for watching and your feedback, Chris! All the best!
Hi Trev. Great vid. Wondering about packs to buy. Have you got a military molle pack system,where you can add extra bags to it on the outside for extra kit? Just wondered on your thoughts of them. Regards.
Easily the most useful video/advice I have come across. I have to do what I do on a budget and when I've asked advice about gear from other groups its simply out of my reach however this is doable. I now need to get over my fear of the dark and get out there (when safe to do so of course) Thank you!!
Thanks Kristal - II hope it helps - I haven't got the funds for forking out £100's on kit, so am pretty happy with my budget set up. It can be done! Thanks for watching!
Nicely explained breakdown of your kit Trev. Goes to show it’s not all about splashing the cash to get useable gear. Fingers crossed we can all get back out camping soon! ATB Andy
Great video. As you say you don't need to splurge a lot of money to put together a workable gear set up. I am just in the process of reviewing my kit for a jaunt on the Dartmoor section of the Two Moors Way. Particularly excited as this will be the first outing for my homemade backpack (complete with adjustable carbon frame); built it over the winter and have been itching to use it on an over nighter ever since.
That sounds cool, Rik - I bet you have been chomping the bit throughout lock-down having your own homemade bag to try out. Hope that you enjoy the two-moors way when you set off. Cheers for watching!
Its only a cheap sack, but it does the job. I think it was £18/19 when I bought it so I thought had to be worth a go and see how it does... fine. Cheers mate - take it easy!
Summit Or Nothing I got a cheap trespass one off amazon last night! £20! Hopefully does the job... will get to do my tag this weekend mate. Working this week unfortunately 👎🏼 have a good day mate Ash
Nothing wrong with budgeting for gear. I only get a few overnights a year so I shop sales and opt for budget friendly items. I’ve managed to have great outings and not have to rob a bank. Have a wonderful hike
To avoid "chub rub' Trev, you should wear compression shorts under your hiking trousers or shorts. No need for vaseline. After a long walk I would always chafe 😂.. Compression shorts were a god send.. 👍
Yea, I do pack a liner too actually, in the winter anyway, only got a cheap Mountain Warehouse one though - need to get something lighter and cosier I reckon. Thanks for watching!
Good kit mate think I need to cut down on what I take filling up my 60+10ltr every time 😩 also done the granite path yesterday with the wife from Okehampton to sourton and back so thanks to u for that from your recent walk you put on 👍
Thanks for the update Trev. There's been some guideline changes announced today so lets hope that the sleeping away from home regs change soon... because that must be the only restriction now? Fingers crossed
Yea - its a strange one - I was up on the moors again today and I thought I can't really see much difference between walking around out there and camping the night. I'd imagine the chances of needing assistance are greater when you're walking / climbing than when you're sitting in a tent... maybe soon...
Nice minimalist set up, I'm impressed that you fit it all into a 30-liter bag. Might be interesting to do a vid in which you compare this to your original outfit and discuss the changes.
Really useful video! Thank you, its given me some food for thought. I've been out exploring Dartmoor the last few weeks and hoping to do a multi day walk and wild camp at the end of the month so it was interesting to see what you take for something similar. I'm impressed you managed to get everything into a 30L bag! I went out overnight last weekend and took my 60L. There was a bit of room to spare but no way I would have squeezed everything into my 33L bag!
Hi ya - I was impressed when I fit all this into a 30L backpack too - went to do a two day walk and camp in the middle last weekend and I must have panicked because I just couldn't for the life of me fit it all in and keep the weight down. Failed at my own game!!!!! Enjoy yourself out there and stay safe!
Hi Trev. A great video showing that you can hike / backpack on a budget yet still be comfortable and, more importantly, safe. You could save a few ounces if you ditched the metal folding trowel and used a tent stake instead and swapped out the metal water bottle for a plastic Smart Water bottle. You mentioned camera gear but didn't go into detail. Any chance you could do a video about your camera gear? Stay safe and stay healthy. Cheers. Ken.
Yeah, there are plenty of lighter options, Ken, I was thinking about doing another video seeing how much I could save if I opted for the tarp set up among other things. I could have a closer look at the camera gear at some point, but its basically just a couple of camcorders and some spare batteries. Thanks for watching!
Good Video Trev, Lots of great info here. Was there a reason you changed your Powerbank? (I think you used the Pebble before?) Good advice with the Duct Tape, I've also seen its a good idea to have some wrapped around walking poles as well, for quick emergencies. Thanks Again, Phill
Hi Phil - I only chose this power bank to ensure that I had enough for the whole two days... the pebble still goes most places with me but my son got this one for Christmas and as he never leaves his bedroom I got jealous and confiscated it haha
I got the foil pouches a while ago on the recommendation from Trev. Absolutely brilliant cannot recommend them highly enough. Reusable and you get to put a decent meal inside.
Brilliant - glad that you are enjoying them. A great alternative to pricier pouches out there - although if I was hiking for much longer than 2 days I would probably take some dehydrated meals. Thanks for watching Rod!
Great that Trev. Thanks for keeping us entertained during lockdown. Got some good info off you. Trying to purchase Naturehike star river 2 for our first wild camp. Have watched your review on that. Any further advice. Man n wife who would like 2 door lightweight plz as lots of UP. Atb Trev. 🤩
If you do get the Star River.... make sure it doesn't have the snow skirt - that'll keep you up all night, paart from that I imagine that its a great tent for the two of ou - nice and roomy. I think it may be bigger than the Lanshan, and also heavier - but between the two of you, you could seperate the tent and carry a bit each< i reckon to save weight. Thanks for watching!
Summit Or Nothing ordered Star river 2 without skirt 👍 can’t wait to try it at the top of our garden. Also ordered the food bags and folding trowel 😮 that you recommended. Thanks so much. 🤩👍
Great video Trev. I love that you use budget kit as it’s more than likely going to be what I opt for. I’ve yet to purchase a water filter as I normally top up from a fast stream. Any recommendations for light trousers with zip off bottoms?
Mate I wish I could get my pack down to that. I just packed to leave in the morning, 80 litre bag well over 15kg for 1 night...though it is winter here now.
Gone are those days of oversized bags.... Its quite addictive once you start - and not as expensive as you may have thought either. But then, as you say, winter gear always weighs in a lot more. Good luck!
trev, bin watchin ur channel for a few weeks now, love the improvements in knowledge and experience for the very entertaining start of ur journey. i need to get time to go back and watch lots off ur early stuff but u mention ur mate loosing interest, the chanel was obviously driven by u from the start but there was a great contrast in both of u that was nice. stay safe bro, keep up the good work. sam18a 😎
Cheers, Sam - yeah, Nath did lose interest a little, but he has returned, and we will hopefully see more of him here and there from now on. Thanks for watching!
Quite a lot of stuff and a lot of weight. After two years hiking the swcp my Baseweight is about 5,8kg. It’s the cheapest and lightest gear you don‘t take with you. Greets from Germany, Timo
Yea, I can imagine there is still a lot f weight to shred, but considering I used to cart 15 plusk gs around with me, I have come a long way haha. Thanks for watching!
All that into a 30ltr pack is ideal & at 8.6kg puts me to shame, I take out a 48ltr pack and I fill every time - I really must try harder! PS that trampoline will kill your grass off!😂 chin up Trev, keep calm & carry-on.
Funnily enough - the grass under the trampole is healthier than the grass around it! I'm more concerned about how the trampoline has taken up all my pitching tents space but the kids are happy at least haha. Thanks for watching, still not as low as some but I can manage 8-9kgs quite happily I reckon. Cheers for watching!
Summit Or Nothing haha that’s because it’s shady I suppose under the trampoline, but yes if the kids are happy that’s the main thing, I,m looking after our young ones & after two months you take anything to have a few moments of hands/moaning free. We’re going up to the moor today so should have another photo or two for you later to use if you wish, have a good one. Wilf L.
@@wtjl1987 Yea it's been a chore homeschooling. We just about got into some order and then it's half term... It'll be back to square one next lol. And yea, keep sending your pics, Wilf. Enjoy the moor.
And you get all that in a 30 L bag at 19 pounds... Impressive Trev... Heck I use a 50 L bag just for day hikes and and camera gear.... At 23 pounds without water... My 30 L bag is just for short walks of no more than a couple of miles.
Yeah, its taken a while to get this down to a more manageable weight... you never know, I may be able to get it down further in future. They always say, if you have a big bag you will find a way to fill it, so buying this 30L gave me the incentive to start streamlining! Cheers for watching, Max!
Brilliant video. I will definitely use a similar gear, but I want to focus on the backpack itself here I was looking for a cheap backpack and I see that it costs only 30 euros on amazon....that's a very low price so I don't expect too much. How was your experience with it so far? Is it reasonably durable for such a low price?
@@SummitOrNothing thank you so much for the reply. I'll surely buy it then, I have a bigger backpack (55l) but it's more for longer trips. I hope this one will be okay for a 2/3 days trek
Hi mate, I have discovered your vids on here - they have been very interesting and infomative. I am hoping to walk the SWCP in one go next year, I am giving myself 2 months. I will be wild camping to keep costs down - not every night, but a few. Obviously I will be arriving late, leaving early and taking all my sh1t with me. My question - I have a 60 litre pack which I used to backpack around the globe, but I have never done a multi week hike with a large pack. Do you think I should buy a smaller one 35 litre? You said in this vid 9kg - that is only for two days....? What do you think is a doable weight for a pack to do 630 miles?
I struggle everytime. I think if you can keep the weight down then a smaller bag will be the best way to go, as you can only fill it with so much - if you take a 65ltr backpack you will fill a 65ltr backpack and end up carrying much more weight and possibly much more than you actually need!
@@SummitOrNothing Thanks for replying mate. I think I will opt for a 35ltr then. I did the Coast to Coast a couple of years back and saw some well heavy packs being marched up and down in the Lakes! (I cheated and used a bag porter service! - I know, I know minus 10,000 backpacker points!) haha.
Wow you’re packing a whole lot in that 30l pack 😳 .... if your up for a couple of weight saving tips 🤪... ditch the Mozzie spray treat your tent socks and bag with permethrin and get some of those repellent wipes you should only need 6 little wipes in a baggy for two days .... also the Vaseline is good but try ‘ Body Glide’ anti chafe stick you can get it from amazon in a 10g stick size a little pricey but it works great for me on all me chafing spots 😆 .... it lasts and is not as goopy as Vaseline 👍👍 looking forward to sharing your Dartmoor hike adventure ATB Dave Mc .... ps I would pitch the multitool for a tiny Swiss Army knife too but that’s just me 😁
Cheers Dave - some good recommendations in there, I will have a look. Any weight / space to be saved is an added bonus. To be fair, the pliers have come in handy on the multi-tool, more so than any other blade the thing has, so I always judge by, if I've used it it stays haha. Take care, Dave and thanks for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing medium size pack with roll down top gives a bit more flexibility if you hit a long dry section or need to carry 4 plus days food on a through hike - thinking more mid wales than Dartmoor to be honest. I've found resupplying can be very time consuming and exhausting - even on the SWCP - worth balancing that out with carrying a bit more weight - so, 50L and your nor buying more packs than you need
Not a bad load at all. I have a kit weighs just under 17lbs but it is pretty tool heavy and in a heavy pack. With water and food should run under 25lbs in the current bag.
25lbs is a decent weight. Since we have been allowed back out, I have struggled to match this weight when I finally got out... must have panicked a little with food and water!
@@SummitOrNothing having extra isn't a bad idea. Most of the gear in my lightweight load is actually 2GoSystems tyvek stuff although I may be switching the V2 Trifecta for a little silnylon tarp to free up some space.
:-) Thank you for taking the time to let us have a peek at what you pack.Very nicely done*especially letting us see how it all packs together again. A lot of people don't do that.
As a full time TH-camr I also buy on a budget and have spent a bit of money on buying from Ali Express. A sleeping pad, tarp, apg cooking system similar to jetboil but way cheaper, gaiters, camera bag, gopro camera light and lav mic etc. Also bought a pair of ali express boots but they were pretty bad on the feet especially where I go and having a pack on, so splashed out on a pair of hunting/ trekking boots with vibram soles as I do a few river crossings getting wet feet all the time. Definitely can save money just really need to look at the reviews on product to see how good stuff is. Hope you guys get out after lockdown, we are pretty lucky here in NZ
An impressive base weight and pack size there, Trev! Fingers crossed it's not too long before you're allowed to go. There's talk that camp sites and hospitality could be allowed to reopen in July. Failing that, just change your last name to Cummings and head off in the morning.........
All the best!
Hahaa! Yea, I might just do that, if it goes on much further. The weird thing is, my brother has been night fishing over the last few weeks, as most fishing ponds are permitting that... surely thats the same thing?! Oh, well. I will be good boy and wait!
Nice 0ne Trev, during the lockdown I have kept myself busy sorting out all my kit ready for the all clear to get back out in the hills. Oh and lots of garden camping..!! All the best. See you in the hills.
Yea - fingers crossed we'll be out there before too long, Anthony! All the best mate!
Nice one Trev. I'm really amazed you do it all with a 30L bag. Your med and safety supplies are good - gave me some ideas where I could improve my own. I also might get a lighter sleeping bag for summer (this summer, with luck) like the one you use.
I use a dehydrator at home for my camping meals, just put a portion aside of whatever I've cooked for dinner and put it in for 12 hours, done! Saves so much over buying them and they're as tasty as they were fresh, a bit of hot water later
I have looked at dehydrators in the past, but watched some videos of people spending days to dehydrate their meals only to mess it all up and throw them out haha. Maybe something I should take another look at. The naturehike sleeping bag is a great little purchase. A bit pricier than most bags but still a decent price when talking compact down sleeping bags. Thanks for watching.
Love your videos... for a couple of years.
This is not critical... but there is a lot of great second hand stuff that is hardly used!
Just a few thoughts; I am a real fan of bargain gear but try to make good choices:
12 tents, 4 tarps, 5 packs, 9 sleeping bags, 12 stoves/cooking systems...
So, a few mistakes!
Typical pack weight: 8kg inc food and water.
As a guide to lightweight camping, I'd always ask, "What if I lost a few pounds..."
I've several tents 1.5 kg or less. All less than £70.
I'd only take a pole tent if I used poles to walk with. Oex down bag and mattress from Go Outdoors works for the summer.
The main change I'd make is the pack...
My Osprey 38 changed my life!
I'd love to create a contrasting video - just to compare ideas - but I think that the technology would defeat me!
Thats a lot of trial and error haha. I am generally happy with my set up, but always on the lookout for more budget equipment and ways to save weight.. I do scowl ebay for cheaper expensive =gear (if that makes sense) but even then a lot of the gear is still quite a whack. Maybe at some point I will fork out for an osprey pack - will be good to take something decent to the Himalaya's with me - but at the moment a £20-£30 bag has done the job fine. I like to come home having bought 2 items for the price of one. Cheers for watching!
I like the repack part of the video, very easy to underestimate the importance of how you pack your pack. Do it over and over again so that you know where everything is, especially when it gets cold and dark quickly. Although I'm sure from your experience Trev that you don't leave it until the last minute. I remember watching your early videos and wondering if I could do an overnighter, now it just seems very normal.
Me... leave it to the last minute???? No, of course not 🙄. I do feel a lot more confident preparing for overnighters now though, I must admit, but my secret is lists. I write one all week leading up, keep it on me, add to it and then whittle it down and alter through the week and then make sure that everything I need is packed and ticked off before I leave. Thanks for watching, glad that you are enjoying the camping yourself - certainly adds to the outdoors experience. Cheers!
Good update Trevor, covers all the bases. Obviously things change season/weather depending and personal choice - for example I wouldn't go without a hydration bladder (platypus zip I find the best) as well as a water filter. Pre prepared meals as discussed before in the mylar pouches are easy and simple, even decant the instant porridge pots into them. I'd also have spare socks, shreddies and foot powder. Gaffa tape round poles or water bottle as an alternative. If I have my dogs with me I'd always have a bespoke dog 1st aid kit including tick tweezers and blood clotting powder in case they catch a claw. Plus of course their food. 2-3 days fits in my 36l Osprey stratos no problem including micro tent, doss bag and wimp mat. 3-4 days scale up on the food accordingly and maybe a 45-50l bergan.
Yea, I seemed to have over looked clothes in this lot - probably just pack some spare socks and undies and warn passers by to stay down wind from me hahah. Thanks for watching and your feedback, Chris! All the best!
Hi Trev.
Great vid.
Wondering about packs to buy.
Have you got a military molle pack system,where you can add extra bags to it on the outside for extra kit? Just wondered on your thoughts of them.
Regards.
Easily the most useful video/advice I have come across. I have to do what I do on a budget and when I've asked advice about gear from other groups its simply out of my reach however this is doable. I now need to get over my fear of the dark and get out there (when safe to do so of course) Thank you!!
Thanks Kristal - II hope it helps - I haven't got the funds for forking out £100's on kit, so am pretty happy with my budget set up. It can be done! Thanks for watching!
Looking forward to the adventure. I like the way you make it affordable, not all of us can afford Zpaks or Patagonia goodies.
I don't have a lot of choice, Gareth. If I bought the pricey gear I would still be saving for my second item haha. Thanks for watching!
Dorest flag!!!! Nice one 👍
Nicely explained breakdown of your kit Trev. Goes to show it’s not all about splashing the cash to get useable gear. Fingers crossed we can all get back out camping soon! ATB Andy
Cheers Andy - yeah, here's hoping they soon let us camp...thanks for watching!
Great video. As you say you don't need to splurge a lot of money to put together a workable gear set up. I am just in the process of reviewing my kit for a jaunt on the Dartmoor section of the Two Moors Way. Particularly excited as this will be the first outing for my homemade backpack (complete with adjustable carbon frame); built it over the winter and have been itching to use it on an over nighter ever since.
That sounds cool, Rik - I bet you have been chomping the bit throughout lock-down having your own homemade bag to try out. Hope that you enjoy the two-moors way when you set off. Cheers for watching!
I have similar kit to all of yours , also Tesco sell like 50p pasta sachets which are even like real pasta and tastes nice.
Ah, thats good to know about the past sachets. Thanks for watching, Kit!
Mate, cracking load out! Very similar to mine... I need to get a 30l bag for summer hiking! I use a 48 at the moment 😆 thanks for sharing!
Ash
Its only a cheap sack, but it does the job. I think it was £18/19 when I bought it so I thought had to be worth a go and see how it does... fine. Cheers mate - take it easy!
Summit Or Nothing I got a cheap trespass one off amazon last night! £20! Hopefully does the job... will get to do my tag this weekend mate. Working this week unfortunately 👎🏼 have a good day mate
Ash
@@AshOutdoorsUK Cool. Hope it does you ok mate. Look forward to your tag video.
I use my 60L all year round, you don't have to pack it fully
Impressive baseweight Trevor particularly on the budget you've used eg no £600 tent etc! Mike
Cheers, Mike. I can probably get it down lower if I took the tarp, too, but I am happy with the Lanshan. Cheers for watching!
Nothing wrong with budgeting for gear. I only get a few overnights a year so I shop sales and opt for budget friendly items. I’ve managed to have great outings and not have to rob a bank. Have a wonderful hike
YEa, its not as lightweight as it could be, but to have to spend 4 or 5 times the budget I am quite happy with 8-9kgs. Thanks for watching!
To avoid "chub rub' Trev, you should wear compression shorts under your hiking trousers or shorts. No need for vaseline. After a long walk I would always chafe 😂.. Compression shorts were a god send.. 👍
Ahhhh. Great idea, cheers.
This is really helpful. I will go on one night wild camp with a friend in the Beacons in the summer - first time for either of us. Thanks!
Cool - hope you enjoy it and glad to have helped!
Good video Trev. In use a thermalite liner with my bag that is similar to your sleeping bag and it really helps.
Yea, I do pack a liner too actually, in the winter anyway, only got a cheap Mountain Warehouse one though - need to get something lighter and cosier I reckon. Thanks for watching!
Good kit mate think I need to cut down on what I take filling up my 60+10ltr every time 😩 also done the granite path yesterday with the wife from Okehampton to sourton and back so thanks to u for that from your recent walk you put on 👍
Ah brilliant - its a nice ride / walk that. Hope you enjoyed it!
Great vid - I love my Banshee 200 - goes up so quick, very sturdy & tons of space
Yea - the banshee is a great tent! Cheers for watching!
Wrap duct tape and insulating tape (seperately)below the handles on your walking poles and a great way to have it on hand in an emergency..
Ah, good advice there, Jamie! Cheers for that!
Thanks for the update Trev. There's been some guideline changes announced today so lets hope that the sleeping away from home regs change soon... because that must be the only restriction now? Fingers crossed
Yea - its a strange one - I was up on the moors again today and I thought I can't really see much difference between walking around out there and camping the night. I'd imagine the chances of needing assistance are greater when you're walking / climbing than when you're sitting in a tent... maybe soon...
Nice minimalist set up, I'm impressed that you fit it all into a 30-liter bag. Might be interesting to do a vid in which you compare this to your original outfit and discuss the changes.
Yea, I will probably look at my winter set up as we start to leave the summer seasons behind us, so watch this space. Thanks for watching!
Really useful video! Thank you, its given me some food for thought. I've been out exploring Dartmoor the last few weeks and hoping to do a multi day walk and wild camp at the end of the month so it was interesting to see what you take for something similar. I'm impressed you managed to get everything into a 30L bag! I went out overnight last weekend and took my 60L. There was a bit of room to spare but no way I would have squeezed everything into my 33L bag!
Hi ya - I was impressed when I fit all this into a 30L backpack too - went to do a two day walk and camp in the middle last weekend and I must have panicked because I just couldn't for the life of me fit it all in and keep the weight down. Failed at my own game!!!!! Enjoy yourself out there and stay safe!
Hi Trev. A great video showing that you can hike / backpack on a budget yet still be comfortable and, more importantly, safe. You could save a few ounces if you ditched the metal folding trowel and used a tent stake instead and swapped out the metal water bottle for a plastic Smart Water bottle. You mentioned camera gear but didn't go into detail. Any chance you could do a video about your camera gear? Stay safe and stay healthy. Cheers. Ken.
Yeah, there are plenty of lighter options, Ken, I was thinking about doing another video seeing how much I could save if I opted for the tarp set up among other things. I could have a closer look at the camera gear at some point, but its basically just a couple of camcorders and some spare batteries. Thanks for watching!
Good Video Trev, Lots of great info here. Was there a reason you changed your Powerbank? (I think you used the Pebble before?) Good advice with the Duct Tape, I've also seen its a good idea to have some wrapped around walking poles as well, for quick emergencies. Thanks Again, Phill
Hi Phil - I only chose this power bank to ensure that I had enough for the whole two days... the pebble still goes most places with me but my son got this one for Christmas and as he never leaves his bedroom I got jealous and confiscated it haha
Nice one Trev, really enjoyed seeing this vid and your thoughts on items...I agree don't have to blast loads money on kit....cheers mate 👣
I don't have a lot of choice Jodz lol... thanks for watching! Glad that you enjoyed it!
Nice gear list! Thanks for sharing
No worries, thanks for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing you're welcome!
Glad you’re using the Lanshan. I’ll be using mine on the North-South route when we can ?!?!
Yeah, i sure am... although I did consider the tarp and bivvy set up for a while there.
I have the same name as you except im Houlden, alright paul?
vaseline is also a superb fire starter. I keep a tea tin of cotton balls mixed with vaseline for exactly that
Ah, of course it would be. That's a good tip, there. Thanks very much for sharing!
I got the foil pouches a while ago on the recommendation from Trev. Absolutely brilliant cannot recommend them highly enough. Reusable and you get to put a decent meal inside.
Brilliant - glad that you are enjoying them. A great alternative to pricier pouches out there - although if I was hiking for much longer than 2 days I would probably take some dehydrated meals. Thanks for watching Rod!
Great that Trev. Thanks for keeping us entertained during lockdown. Got some good info off you. Trying to purchase Naturehike star river 2 for our first wild camp. Have watched your review on that. Any further advice. Man n wife who would like 2 door lightweight plz as lots of UP. Atb Trev. 🤩
If you do get the Star River.... make sure it doesn't have the snow skirt - that'll keep you up all night, paart from that I imagine that its a great tent for the two of ou - nice and roomy. I think it may be bigger than the Lanshan, and also heavier - but between the two of you, you could seperate the tent and carry a bit each< i reckon to save weight. Thanks for watching!
Summit Or Nothing thanks again Trev. Yep don’t want a noisy skirt. Keep em coming and stay safe. Big 👍 up 🤩🤩
Summit Or Nothing ordered Star river 2 without skirt 👍 can’t wait to try it at the top of our garden. Also ordered the food bags and folding trowel 😮 that you recommended. Thanks so much. 🤩👍
Great video Trev. I love that you use budget kit as it’s more than likely going to be what I opt for. I’ve yet to purchase a water filter as I normally top up from a fast stream. Any recommendations for light trousers with zip off bottoms?
I had a pair of light trousers from Trespass for years - they did me very well.
nice 1 mate i was at lakes the weeknd ad abt 25kg for 1 night was pulling me allover lol nearly ad me over a few times ...👍👍🤙🤙
Mate I wish I could get my pack down to that. I just packed to leave in the morning, 80 litre bag well over 15kg for 1 night...though it is winter here now.
Gone are those days of oversized bags.... Its quite addictive once you start - and not as expensive as you may have thought either. But then, as you say, winter gear always weighs in a lot more. Good luck!
Nice video Trev, can u do a short video on what clothing systems you use when out on the trail? Thanks. Stay safe
Yea - I was thinking the same thing - will see what I can throw together cheers Eddie!
trev, bin watchin ur channel for a few weeks now, love the improvements in knowledge and experience for the very entertaining start of ur journey. i need to get time to go back and watch lots off ur early stuff but u mention ur mate loosing interest, the chanel was obviously driven by u from the start but there was a great contrast in both of u that was nice. stay safe bro, keep up the good work. sam18a 😎
Cheers, Sam - yeah, Nath did lose interest a little, but he has returned, and we will hopefully see more of him here and there from now on. Thanks for watching!
What are your thoughts on the naturehike sleeping bag/quilt? been looking at this for a while but struggling to find reviews for it
A good question and funnily enough the topic of this week's mid-week video. Should go live Tuesday night at 6pm. Cheers
Quite a lot of stuff and a lot of weight. After two years hiking the swcp my Baseweight is about 5,8kg. It’s the cheapest and lightest gear you don‘t take with you. Greets from Germany, Timo
Yea, I can imagine there is still a lot f weight to shred, but considering I used to cart 15 plusk gs around with me, I have come a long way haha. Thanks for watching!
@@SummitOrNothing Oh yes... I started with 25kg almost 4 years ago - I thougt I was going to die! 🤣
@@ichbindannmaldraussen Wow. That is quite an improvement then
My gear is budget gear and it does just fine Trev
Yeah, it still gets us out and about so thats fine by me. Thanks for watching!
Jazz interlude, NICE!
Really great!..... Haha!
Have you a video of the naturehike pad
I think I do somewhere Richard.
@@SummitOrNothing really Intrested in it as considering one
@@rlchardpritchard7426 They are compact, and light, but in no way really comfortable nor should I imagine very good R-value either.
@@SummitOrNothing thanks I was just thinking they look wide nd simula to cloudbase for summer use
All that into a 30ltr pack is ideal & at 8.6kg puts me to shame, I take out a 48ltr pack and I fill every time - I really must try harder! PS that trampoline will kill your grass off!😂 chin up Trev, keep calm & carry-on.
Funnily enough - the grass under the trampole is healthier than the grass around it! I'm more concerned about how the trampoline has taken up all my pitching tents space but the kids are happy at least haha. Thanks for watching, still not as low as some but I can manage 8-9kgs quite happily I reckon. Cheers for watching!
Summit Or Nothing haha that’s because it’s shady I suppose under the trampoline, but yes if the kids are happy that’s the main thing, I,m looking after our young ones & after two months you take anything to have a few moments of hands/moaning free. We’re going up to the moor today so should have another photo or two for you later to use if you wish, have a good one. Wilf L.
@@wtjl1987 Yea it's been a chore homeschooling. We just about got into some order and then it's half term... It'll be back to square one next lol. And yea, keep sending your pics, Wilf. Enjoy the moor.
And you get all that in a 30 L bag at 19 pounds... Impressive Trev... Heck I use a 50 L bag just for day hikes and and camera gear.... At 23 pounds without water... My 30 L bag is just for short walks of no more than a couple of miles.
Yeah, its taken a while to get this down to a more manageable weight... you never know, I may be able to get it down further in future. They always say, if you have a big bag you will find a way to fill it, so buying this 30L gave me the incentive to start streamlining! Cheers for watching, Max!
Fair play Trev I fill up a 30L for a day hike lol
Let's hope it doesn't take much longer 🤞
Cheers Dean - yeah, here's hoping!
Summit or Nothing gear vids > any other gear vids
Brilliant video. I will definitely use a similar gear, but I want to focus on the backpack itself here
I was looking for a cheap backpack and I see that it costs only 30 euros on amazon....that's a very low price so I don't expect too much. How was your experience with it so far?
Is it reasonably durable for such a low price?
It's done me fine, had it for a couple of years now. I don't use it every time but for the price is a good additional backpack to have.
@@SummitOrNothing thank you so much for the reply. I'll surely buy it then, I have a bigger backpack (55l) but it's more for longer trips. I hope this one will be okay for a 2/3 days trek
@@paoloaiuto8608 it's a great budget tent but you may have to purchase a cover for it as it doesn't come with one.
Hi mate, I have discovered your vids on here - they have been very interesting and infomative. I am hoping to walk the SWCP in one go next year, I am giving myself 2 months. I will be wild camping to keep costs down - not every night, but a few. Obviously I will be arriving late, leaving early and taking all my sh1t with me. My question - I have a 60 litre pack which I used to backpack around the globe, but I have never done a multi week hike with a large pack. Do you think I should buy a smaller one 35 litre? You said in this vid 9kg - that is only for two days....? What do you think is a doable weight for a pack to do 630 miles?
I struggle everytime. I think if you can keep the weight down then a smaller bag will be the best way to go, as you can only fill it with so much - if you take a 65ltr backpack you will fill a 65ltr backpack and end up carrying much more weight and possibly much more than you actually need!
@@SummitOrNothing Thanks for replying mate. I think I will opt for a 35ltr then. I did the Coast to Coast a couple of years back and saw some well heavy packs being marched up and down in the Lakes! (I cheated and used a bag porter service! - I know, I know minus 10,000 backpacker points!) haha.
Wow you’re packing a whole lot in that 30l pack 😳 .... if your up for a couple of weight saving tips 🤪... ditch the Mozzie spray treat your tent socks and bag with permethrin and get some of those repellent wipes you should only need 6 little wipes in a baggy for two days .... also the Vaseline is good but try ‘ Body Glide’ anti chafe stick you can get it from amazon in a 10g stick size a little pricey but it works great for me on all me chafing spots 😆 .... it lasts and is not as goopy as Vaseline 👍👍 looking forward to sharing your Dartmoor hike adventure ATB Dave Mc .... ps I would pitch the multitool for a tiny Swiss Army knife too but that’s just me 😁
Cheers Dave - some good recommendations in there, I will have a look. Any weight / space to be saved is an added bonus. To be fair, the pliers have come in handy on the multi-tool, more so than any other blade the thing has, so I always judge by, if I've used it it stays haha. Take care, Dave and thanks for watching!
30L!!! I was pleased to reduce my backpack from 100L to 75L!!!
Winter loadout though ☃
Hhahaa! Buy a smaller bag and you will reduce your kit to fit in it.
@@SummitOrNothing medium size pack with roll down top gives a bit more flexibility if you hit a long dry section or need to carry 4 plus days food on a through hike - thinking more mid wales than Dartmoor to be honest. I've found resupplying can be very time consuming and exhausting - even on the SWCP - worth balancing that out with carrying a bit more weight - so, 50L and your nor buying more packs than you need
I didn’t think you were allowed to camp at the moment? Nice vid!
Trev mentioned at the end of the vid that this will happen when we are given the go ahead to camp again.
We're not. This is forward planning, mate.
Soon we hope....
Nice load out Trev , ive got myself a 33L pack for summer lets hope we are allowed out soon 😂atb Dave
Cool, Dave - hope you manage to get out soon.... stay safe!
Not a bad load at all. I have a kit weighs just under 17lbs but it is pretty tool heavy and in a heavy pack. With water and food should run under 25lbs in the current bag.
25lbs is a decent weight. Since we have been allowed back out, I have struggled to match this weight when I finally got out... must have panicked a little with food and water!
@@SummitOrNothing having extra isn't a bad idea. Most of the gear in my lightweight load is actually 2GoSystems tyvek stuff although I may be switching the V2 Trifecta for a little silnylon tarp to free up some space.
Where you get you .look what we found meals from I'm been searching for ages . ?
I found them in Waitrose, mate.
:-) Thank you for taking the time to let us have a peek at what you pack.Very nicely done*especially letting us see how it all packs together again. A lot of people don't do that.
No worries - thanks for watching!
Great video mate.
Cheers, bud! Thanks for watching!
Did you pay customs on things bought at AliExpress ? Cheers
Not normally no
Nunya Business but sometimes .. haha thanks 👍🏻
Not that I'm aware of. Unless its included in the costs?!
Darn you Trev, I'm not even done watching the last video yet.
Banging them out mate! Haha!
Nice load out video Trevor 9kg I struggle to get mine down to 18kg that will be the beer 😂😂😂atvb jimmy 😎😎
Hahaha! Yeah, that'll do it lol
This is the one I've been waiting for thanks 👍
Hope its helpful!
yeah bud thank you. 👍
@@scottmcgreavy3849 No worries, mate.
well though out pack for 2 days and under 20 lb's not bad
Cheers Craig -a lot better than what I used to take out with me. Thanks for watching!
I like when you loaded all that stuff into your backpack and then you said it was 8.62 grams. xD If only!
D'oh!!! Hahah!
That’s a great weight
Not bad... and i am looking to reduce further, too. Thanks for watching!
you don't want to get to camp and have nothing hot inside you said the actress to the bishop
Ooooh Matron!!
SUMMIT OR NOOTTTHING 😂😂
You called?😅
@@SummitOrNothing haha, keep up with the good content mate, loving ur videos 👍
@@declanthompson-smith6494 Cheers Declan! Thanks for watching
Always suspicious of anyone carrying large amounts of vaseline 😄
add a face mask to your kit....now you may need them.. :)
Yea, I do have a handful of facemasks stuffed into each backpack at the moment!