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- On the eve of counting of votes for the Lok Sabha polls, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta goes back in time to the era when questions were first raised on the process of elections & explains in this edition of SnapOpinion why preserving the integrity of the Indian electoral process is paramount.
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"Parties may come and go, form and break, but this Nation must remain"
- Atal Bihari Vajpayee ji
Electoral integrity is paramount. Parties are not permanent, Election system is.
“Ours is a multi-religious country, a multilingual country; we have many different modes of worship. We believe in a peaceful and harmonious coexistence.” - Atal Bihari Vajpayee
@@mg.f.9023 i wish a non hindu told this statement.
@@jayakishore565 Sadly, even expecting that is considered anti-minority (and I mean, one special minority)
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"The relationship between Hindus and Muslims is like the Ganga and Jamuna, which flowed for a while through separate
courses, but native’s immutable law brought them together and joined them in a sangam" - Abul Kalam Azad
BJP could hack EVMs in Chattisgarh and Rajasthan in 2023 where they didn't have power but some how couldn't in Karnataka where they were in power . Makes so much sense right, having control over Chattisgarh is more lucrative as compared to Karnataka, it's not like Bengaluru is capital of Karnataka and not Chattisgarh.
Good sarcasm bro!
Ditto for Hyderabad/Telangana
You can use facts and logic but then the chamchas wouldn't understand a damn word 😂
Maybe because they don't know kannada jk
If they think EVM is hacked and that was their reason of loss then they shouldn't contest upcoming elctions in Bihar Maharashtra and other states .
Opposition is acting dangerous, they are not even a responsible opposition. How can we trust them with power.
Gober Sanghi spotted.
@@pr3148 librandus chamcha desh ka gaddar spotted....
@@pr3148 The point is not who wins but all parties should respect the madate.
Great argument. What else can be expected from opposition supporters? @@pr3148
Any party that breaks the integrity of EC will never comeback to power. People are voting for BJP so they are not such a stupid party to break this golden goose!
Even the opposition parties know that there is no issues with the EVMs. But it is their compulsion to blame on something than taking responsibility. You can never wake a person who pretends to be asleep.
Please tell this to Rahul Gandhi , you are close to him so he might listen to you.
BJP can hack EVMs in West Bengal, Odisha, Telangana, Punjab, Kerala and Tamil Nadu (states where its vote shares are increasing) where they are not in power, but cannot hack EVMs in Rajasthan, Haryana and Bihar ( states where BJP or NDA are losing vote share and seats as compared to 2019) despite being in power. Again, makes so much sense.
Chandigarh, surat, indore. Its not about EVM itself the machine will do what the machine is designed to its about people in charge, if they manipulate the evm code to vote for a certain party or not vote for a a certain party if a overflow error occurs in machine memory etc, it could swing close margin elections. The code is not publicly available there are no hackathons or bug bounty challenges to ensure robustness, how can you be sure something designed a decade ago has no loopholes. its about openness, no process is perfect election isn't either,
Sure even if EVM is foolproof why not make it law to match it with VVPAT, infact improve the VVPAT to print two slips with barcodes one stays in VVPAT other is given to the voter to put in a ballot box ... count all three it would be a triple redundant system, its about strentnging the process not saying its perfect no improvement can be made ever lets leave it alone, that's how companies and cviliaztions disappear, complacent with the current status quo while somebody better comes and suddenly crushes them.
@@hemantsarthakthe ec has asked several times to demonstrate the hack , nobody came forward . why dont u try and demonstrate or otherwise dont throw allegations
@@hemantsarthak the matter of vvpat physical counting and matching has been heard by the supreme court and verdict passed. So chill and accept the results tomorrow. The election process has been through several improvement cycles and will continue to do so.
@@hemantsarthak Illiterate stop whining for ur loss. Go get educated and some logical ability before spreading conspiracy.
@@hemantsarthak This is as ridiculous as someone saying US Nukes are not safe since there are no hackathons to demonstrate the security of the US Nuclear arsenal. What kind of moron repeats Jairam Ramesh's insane fever dreams?!
Please give Snap Opinion on Waqf Board Board & Act . Please Upvote Everybody.
Very well said. Quantity and quality, both excellent.
Somedays you make Yogendra Yadav a credible psephologist. Another day you discredit the EVM hacking conspiracy.
Thats his new way of surviving in this post news era , nobody would watch his stuff if he plays to his usual audience hence he changed his ways after seeing the results of 2019( watch his analysis on that)
50 word is a good idea . In this fast world people need crisp information . This is good.
One of the major reasons the process is robust is the fact that the process is overseen by bureaucrats not IAS but teachers, clerks and such who themselves have different political affiliations and want to keep their job more than their affiliations and unlike some of our neighbouring countries, people question results (like someone getting zero votes) regardless of your party affiliation, so while the top layer of ECI can be made to take key decisions that favours one side, EVMs or counting manipulations are rare.
I wont say they are efficient or fault free though, even with EVMs if you make them count the votes they will come back with different numbers, so yes they are inefficient, yes they are corrupt at the top, but the process cannot be hacked.
That is, till today and I dont think it is super easy to manipulate it.
Even in Pakistan the booth level management is done by school teachers 😂😂😂......Pakistan managed to conduct its election and the counting in 3 days whole having a population of 250 million but India needs 44 days for 1.4 billion. And before you comment the election process was relatively smooth until the unfavourabke results started coming in so it was the fault of Pakistani election machinery
Fauz enter the chat😂😂@@bilalbaig8586
@@bilalbaig8586bhaiya ghar ki roti ka intezam karo yaha behes krne se pakistan garib hi rahega
@@bilalbaig8586 kudos to the Pak election authority! Remarkable efficiency... But somehow the Pak army always wins. You guys deserve the poor leadership you have.
Well said, sharp and fair, need more of this gyan. Good for our country
For once I was happy to listen to this unbiased analysis
Well spoken and honestly spoken
Something sensible coming from Shekhar Gupta is music.
Very good. Keep it coming, Shekhar, sir
Atleast you are considering that it is important to respect democracy even if result is not in your favor . It is good to question government but it is never good to cast doughts in election without genuine concern and just for agenda
Congress used to hijack booths in olden days and wants that golden age back
I recall that it was not just Balraj Madhok who went to court with the plea about magically coated ballot paper. Rajnarain, who lost to Indira Gandhi also filed an election petition in Allahabad HC with the same plea. When Shanti Bhushan argued the petition, he dismissed this silly plea. Instead, he proved that Indira Gandhi had misused government machinery for winning her seat in Rae baraily. That was how Justice Jagmohan Lal Sinha unseated her. The rest became infamous history, with Indira Gandhi imposing "internal" emergency to save her power.
Theres no evm issue, if the opposition sticks to it the BJP should dismiss all opposition run state governments since EVMs cant be trusted 🤣🤣🤣
3:20 thank much sir 🙏
Why not Gupta … it is happening .. you have seen it already ..
Well said
Wonderful Sir
You can never wake a person who pretends to be asleep.
Awesome snap opinion sir the need of the hour
Does that mean ECI will never be corrupt and we should never question them?
I thought every institution should be questionable and we should stay vigilant.
He is talking about process, not the institution per se.
you can question anyone if you have evidence. then ppl also will be with you.as simple as that.who told you should not question ECI
Thanks!
Dear Arko,
Thank you for supporting our journalism.
For me the #SnapOpinion would be a 30s Shorts or max 1 min clip 😅😅
With a heavy heart Guptaji spoke facts that are against Congress's Prince speaks....
Snap opinion is quite good & to the point. Please continue with the initiative.
How easily SG cites the example of ballot paper rigging allegation of 70's and references it as a continium with the EVM era. The only party always alleging malpractice in the post EVM era has been the Congress which he cannot name. Pls provide one example of BJP making these kind of baseless charges in the last 20 yrs after the advent of EVMs. Terrible opinion SG and it highlights your prejudice and political bias once again.
Possibility of EVM rigging or that it is rigged was started by the BJP a decade back. Arun Jaitley also agreed to that notion. One of the current BJP MP has written a book on it as well in 2009.
Opinion polls, pre polls, exit polls all give same trend. Result is going to be on those lines. Please don't undermine public mandate. While it may create some ruckus, it is a surest way of going further south in the public eye.
Why not call out those raising doubts on electoral processes? You were quick to quote the example from 1971, why not quote statements from the INDI alliance around the current election time?
Sensible advise for once
That snap opinion is spot-on!
Salute to you, for a fair analysis🙏🏻🙏🏻
In early 2000s Vajpayee gave up power as he was 1 seat short, just 1. Going back half a century is "both sides ing" the issue. Whether or not other opposition has done this in the past, the problem with today's opposition is that it spreads the belief none of the instructions under BJP are trustworthy. That everyone has a price and BJP and Gujarati industrialists are willing to pay it.
Is it possible to add 1 bogus vote after every 6-7 votes may be? Just curious
I'm a common man but my answer to this will be no , I may be wrong but still I will stick to it
The 17c , the book in which a voter signs , in which His id card (aadhar ) no. Etc is written is shared with the agent of every candidate.
Every candidate also has the list of eligible voters in his constituency before election starts
If so much of bogus voting is done
The candidates can easily find out matching the total list of voters with 17c.
Simplify and simplify😊😊❤❤❤.
Thumbs up to Snap- Opinion
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A million evms. Who will manipulate it and keep it a secret.
Sahi pakade Guptaji.
EVMs may not be hackable, but what about the vote share increase of more than 6 percent (more than 1crore votes) in phase 1 and 2 of elections where BJP was said to have no vote base, what about people found to vote multiple times (only one incident came to light) -- What is your opinion regarding this?
In the last 30 years, which side has questioned the EVM? The Left. Only the Left. Come on Mr. Gupta! Tell the truth.
Please go tell Modi Ji from day one he put two dumb guys as the election commissioner
when you wi evm is fine when i win evm are hacked this is like when play cricket n our childhood we give some reason not giving batting to other side.
Not used to SG going off air in 3 mins 😂
Shekar Gupta is part of the narrative congress is building but Gupta taking a insurance policy on public anger on youtube 😂
Yeah election results came out in South Africa & Mexico defeated Srilanka in T20 WC..... sab khichdi kar do tum....
Sore losers whining about evms 😂
😅
Good
The EVM controversy could have been set to rest if The Supreme Court had passed a verdict to tally the VVPAT with the number of votes polled.
Listen to an interview of Yashwant Deshmukh, given to RJ Raunaq
I like the idea of Snap Opinion, BUT this 'opinion' was weak. Instead of making generic statements like 'elections are an asset' (which they are), provide a short and sharp journalistic reasoning for your opinion. For example, you could have said SC had gone into the EVM question thoroughly and settled the issue.
so I have a qn to opposition, if you guys feel EVMs are tampered then you should set an eg: by resigning Telangana, TN, Kerala, Karnataka, WB, HP, Punjab and so on.
then hold the election in ballot paper.
will any opposition party go for it?😂😂
Whoever becomes the PM, a walk-the-talk with the PM should b done
IF the PM is willing
Kahin pe nighaye kahin pe nishana. Everyone here knows which political party cries of EVM hack when they lose without even naming. 😅😅
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Too long 😉 cut the preamble please SG.
You usually exceed 50 word limit.
To believe that India wants Rahul Gandhi to be the leader of the country is a far stretch for even a drunken mind
What is liberal establishment?
Liberal Establishment is the force which allowed Gupta here to take name of Madhok openly while only insinuate Congress's election denialism.
Wish opposition listens to this
Mr. SG, you began with ifs and buts by bringing up the Bharatiya Jan Sangh in 1971 to suggest that the BJP also played with the EC’s credibility. Surely, you can’t start any discussion without injecting your personal bias and hatred towards the BJP. Yes, you can do it. After all, it’s your show. But don’t try to impose it on ordinary viewers, expecting them to agree with your perspective.
This is difference between likes of you, lallantop and barkha dutts. You guys are grounded in reality.
While Ravish, Ajit, yogendra kind of guys are just living in delusion
Make the voting booths and the outside covered by CCTV.
Ensure harshest punishments to anyone obstructing the constitution, voting and the related rights.
Open-source the evm code and invite hackers from around the world to try their best.
These are not very hard to implement. But the eci will never implement processes which ensures 100% transparency.
1. Voting booth outside should be covered and inside polling station should be covered by CCTV. Not the booth itself. Voting is private.
2. Punishments exists, who will implement? TMC killed a Muslim candidate of BJP in West Bengal. Who will punish them? You?
3. Open-source code? What Code? There is no C, C++, Java, Golang, Python, etc. There is only hard-coded registers that are pre-programmed, either the code is built into hardware, such as a Prom, jumpers, the arrangement of logic chips, or a switch array. Once coded in manufacturing, they cannot be changed at all. So, what open source software are you talking about?
4. Every EVM can be used only 2 times due to this. In case of any issue, the entire machine has to be changed.
5. Hacking challenge of EVM is still on by the ECI. Anybody is welcome to challenge it. Till date nobody managed to hack it. Congress once said, ECI is not allowing to open the machine, in order to hack it, so they are not able to do it. Question is, why would they allow you to open it in front of everyone, as if you could walk into a polling station and open it there? Rubbish logic.
6. EVM has different set of screws and wire connections, no USB, no RJ-45 ports, nothing. How can you hack it? It's not even connected to a plug outlet, it has it's own power supply.
7. 50 random fake votes are put on every EVM before the start of poll. These votes are done in front of the party cadres or candidates before the poll, so that they can judge the EVM authenticity themselves. If it is found that there is any issue, the entire system is changed right then and there.
*After all these, if you think EVM can be hacked, like I said challenge by the ECI is still on. HACK THE EVM AND BECOME NATION'S HERO.*
*SO FAR, EVERYONE FAILED*
Cheap party tricks
Whichever party wins , people are the losers !
just because in TN DMK and AIDMK made people losers you cant assume whole india the same.this loser issue is for TN only
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Good job wasting 2min of a 5min video
BJP has plans B, C, D.... and is not just dependent on the EVM. Why are the officers of EC appointed by BJP? And even at BHEL where EVMs are manufactured or programmed?
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In fact the core of this accusation is that rather than EVM, the people who guard those EVMs are not trusted by a significant number of Indians. If it were a Vajpayee rule, this doubt might not have arisen at all. Amit shah and his team have shown many times that they may go at any length to win a battle...!
do you have any idea how polling wirks .how many ppl will be watching those.how many officers work for each evm?? such brainless ppl are issue for this country.plz educate urself how voting happens.how vvpats are verified.how sealing happens before party ppl how seak is opened on counting day before party ppl. unable to bear u guys ego
You say "trust the process", so there's nothing to question about the way the eci has been conducting itself ?
Good point.
you can question ECI and their process. He is taking abt EVM credibility. anyone who knows the process of voting and counting will nvr questions the integrity of EVM. everyone is open to question as long as you have atleast an iota of evidence
‘A murder of democracy... a mockery of purity of elections’: Supreme Court remarks on conduct of Chandigarh mayoral polls
February 05, 2024
Because they were ballot paper elections....gives one more reason to continue EVM election and not Ballot papers
Maybe Antonia and her spawn should contest mayoral elections fkn tards
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The Fraudulent intent is the point..
@@mg.f.9023 I forgot about the fraudulent intent in 1987 Kashmir election...and all bihar elections with ballot paper
EVMs need not be hacked if one has sufficient control in their manufacturing. One needs to manipulate only a small percentage during the manufacturing stage. The percentage has to be small enough so that any detection at the testing/quality control stage falls within the acceptable range of failure. This will not make a win sure for anybody but will definitely give a push and an edge.
EVMs integrity may not be questionable - but the integrity of Lapata Gentlemen is certainly doubtful.. 7 phase long schedule, the states which were challenging for BJP were spread thin in all 7 phases just so that their master gets time to campaign.. Taking no action on repeated hate speeches by the SUPREME LEADER .. what other proof do you need..
I would think questioning EVM credibility would be backfire, as those who voted BJP and swing voters wouldn't trust you anyway, but the core supporters would be demoralised thinking its rigged and not come to vote.
Poor opinion. Nicely articulated.
EVM and Aadhar has no credibility
then STFU!!!! and skip tomorrow.for us its credible
Chandigarh, surat, indore. Its not about EVM itself the machine will do what the machine is designed to its about people in charge, if they manipulate the evm code to vote for a certain party or not vote for a a certain party if a overflow error occurs in machine memory etc, it could swing close margin elections. The code is not publicly available there are no hackathons or bug bounty challenges to ensure robustness, how can you be sure something designed a decade ago has no loopholes. its about openness, no process is perfect election isn't either,
Sure even if EVM is foolproof why not make it law to match it with VVPAT, infact improve the VVPAT to print two slips with barcodes one stays in VVPAT other is given to the voter to put in a ballot box ... count all three it would be a triple redundant system, its about strentnging the process not saying its perfect no improvement can be made ever lets leave it alone, that's how companies and cviliaztions die, complacent with the current status quo while somebody better comes and suddenly crushes them.
if u have little brain you will know you cant manipulate just like that. once voting is done all evms are sealed and opened only before party ppl.so as long as its not sealed party workers / polling agents will be watching it. also there will be VVPATS. you should work one day as polling agent then u will know its impossible to cheat.even if u wanna code evms each evm will have all party votes.if one evm have all bjp votes then you can say its rigged. hope u r getting the logic. its just ur ego which is acting on ur mind. just go and work as polling agent you will know
Pehle itna bkwas kiya
Lagta Tera Gyan bapas aagaya
3 words: Chandigarh mayor election
Nice sir.... KISS principle. Keeping it short and sweet
Evms can't be questioned now especially after introducing vvpats. But in bengal, scientific rigging is happening. Like stopping some people who they think opposition party voters from going to booths, plastering the button of a rival party in EVM completely etc. That's the concern.
Indian democracy is an electoral democracy.
In an electoral democracy, voting mechanism ad its counting process are some of the important things among many others that decides the integrity of the election.
Within the scope of voting mechanism and counting process simply stating that there is no issue with the EVM is not a good argument nor does it bring any confidence. For gaining trust of all the voters, credible and transparent actions have to be taken. But none has been taken by the election commission and we are suppose to accept their word as gospel truth. That is not how democracy works. I am afraid the editor's opinion is just sentimental devoid of objectivity. Stating election has integrity doesn't make it to have integrity. This is logic 101.
Shekhar ji turning pro BJP 😂