Lol not even close her highest note is Bb5 and Bey's E6 and her lowest note is D3 While Bey's lowest note is F2 Bey is Only One note away from 4 octaves and and Jessie doesn't even have 3 octaves you're just one of those kids who are easily impressed by the tone and forget that the Vocalist needs way more then just sounding good she a cry away from even reaching Beyonce's mid belts let allot her whole range But yeah anyways Love Jessie... Better then Bey Child SIT
TayTay Nippy In fact, as researched, Jessie has 3 octaves, 2 notes and a semi tone C#3- F6 (and growing), and Bey's is 3.3 octaves and 2 semitones. Ab2- Eb6 (approx). Furthermore, Jessie has whistle register and B doesn't, so they're not that far. Plus, Jessie has the ability to sing complex melisma without issue, she has the control to be able to sing trills. She can also hold notes for lengths of time without loss of quality to the sound and sing complex and lengthy vocal lines in a single breath, just like B. And talking about Jessie crying away from Bey's mid belts, Jessie's belting range is elastic and energetic, being able to reach high into the fifth octave, with the aid of mixing. As I said, Jessie's not better than Bey, but give her time, she works really hard.
Desiree Barrios Beyonce has A full 4 octave range F2 in her "latest self titled album" and F#2 in "Destiny's child Christmas album" a G#2 in "Schoolin' Life" an A2 in "Disappear" and an A#2 that peaks at an A2 in "Dangerously in love" B2 in "Single ladies" allot of "C3/C#3's" in "Halo" and "Me Myself & I" a sustain F#4 in "The Beautiful Ones" a Sustained G#4 in "Halo" a Sustained Bb4 for 14 or 16 seconds not sure in "Flaws And All" a Sustained B4 in "Listen" a Sustain C5/C#5 in "Best Thing I Never Had & New York New York" a Sustained D5 in "Dangerously in love" a Sustained Eb5/E5 In "Halo/Ring The Alarm" a Sustained F5 in "Dangerously in Love" for 8 seconds and a sustained F#5 in "Sighed Sealed Delivered" a couple G5's in "Work it Out/Why Don't You Love Me/Deja Vu" G#5 in "Back Up/Sugar Mama/Why Don't You Love Me" A5 that Peaks at a Bb5 in "The Beautiful Ones" a Sustained C6 in "Emotions" and C6 with Staccato riffs in "I Care" A C#6 in "Scared Of Lonely" a D6 In "Me Myself & I" an Eb6 in "1+1" an E6 in "Happy Face" an F6 in "Crazy In Love" (which allot of people might say it's an Exclamation) A F2-F6 4 Octaves and without the F6 it's it 3.7 Beyonce's lower register is dark and Strong Beyonce has A breath capacity that goes beyond typical sustained vocal lines...Extended roulades without breath interruption that helps all of her full round staccato riffs even at the 5th and 6th octave...Mesmerizing Diminuendos and Crescendos in a downward chromatic scale with Cristal clear tone that helps her slid down from F4 up to F5 Beyonce's Belts are supported resonant with her Neutral larynx and her evenly mixed belts. She's done C5's with crescendo, ease and vibrato. Melismatic phrasing. E5 sustained with vibrato, several F5's sustained with no struggle And last but certainly not least Beyonce uses a Full rounded Head Voice. And BTW I'm Not Trying to Discredit Jessie from anything I believe she's miles away from the word mediocre singer :)
TayTay Nippy We'll have to wait for Jessie's upcoming 3rd album to come out and start analyzing every performance because her vocals are always better live. I know you're not trying to discredit her, neither am I, I just wanted to share some information about it ;)
I used to think she was a mezzo during the earlier part of her career, but her post-Who You Are era has clearly established her as a dramatic soprano. She's a fantastic singer with an incredibly well-built voice.
Just because the masses state a vocal trinity, doesn't make it so. It is dismissed the same way the masses say Christina is a voice of a generation. I'm not saying Celine doesn't have a voice, but Beyoncé has complete control of her instrument & uses her instrument with true musicianship. Lisa F, Beyoncé, Beverley K, Lara F are all women who surpass Celine vocally & musically.
Opinions are like sphincters: EVERY HAS ONE (and they are entitled to have it!) The thing about arguing over who sings better is a losing fight, since each listener may like or admire different elements of someone's voice. On sheer technique, many in music today have strengths & weaknesses that may set them apart (yes even YOUR favorite can make mistakes), but almost all of those debated over most HAVE TALENT. The voice is a thing of beauty, just remember: BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.
Hello if you do not mind - can you do a LIVE VOCAL RANGE VIDEO FOR JESSIE J?!?!?! Along with a studio vocal range video for her debut album WHO YOU ARE, her sophomore effort ALIVE, & her 3rd LP SWEET TALKER?!??!?!?! SHE IS SO GOOD & I LOVE THIS GIRL! SHE IS THE TRUTH!! ALSO SHE DOES NOT HAVE MANY VOCAL RANGE VIDEOS UP FOR SOME REASON!!
Celine has always been praised for her vocals, Her range is so much higher than Beyoncé's range and that's why she is said to be in the same league as Whitney and Mariah and The vocal trinty is made up of the 3 greatest vocalist of all time, Celine, Whitney, Mariah, I have NEVER heard anyone say that Beyoncé was better than Celine, Only just by some Beyoncé fans, Has anyone from the music industry said that Beyoncé was a better singer than Celine, Name one person if you can think of any lol.
The British Trinity, at least in my mind: Jessie J, Leona Lewis, and Amy Winehouse. Each have their comparison to the Vocal Trinity from America-land (including the Canadians) - Amy was incredibly soulful, and though she rarely showed it - had an INCREDIBLY capable voice, with great power like Whitney. Leona has the balladeer in her that coincides with Celine, and Jessie has the fun 'fuck it all' attitude that can turn serious along with killer vocals and RANGE like Mimi (2000s Mariah).
Well the improvement can be seen through her entire range, her C#5s for example have a brighter quality, much more ease & resonance. I just hope for more headvoice in her next work, shes quite inventive vocally & her range in that register could make for some great notes.
She has belted 'effortless' F's'G's&A's. Her tessitura is soprano, her low mid belts are light & metallic - listen to that C#5 in Remember Me. Her lows are audible but relativley weak, with a LIGHT headvoice. You havnt given any supported factors to her being a mezzo, other than you think her high notes are stressed, which is no even the case with her at present as her technique has come on drastically since her debut.
Her voice definitely has the icy, steely sound to it for sure (especially on her upper belts. Her G5's in "Domino" are perfect examples) however you're right when she doesn't have the volume capabilities as they do.
Not necessarily no, a voice may darken with age & within opera spinto's can sing dramatic passages with competence through a solid technique and training. But the size of their voice does not change, generally it will never be that of a dramatic. In relation to Jessie, her voice does have a slightly metallic quality, not the warmer timbre a full lyric. Although she technique isn't solid yet (there is still tension) she has exhibited the size of sound you could expect from spinto's.
I wasnt classifying her as a coloratura, I am saying her melismic skill echos that of Bey in her first few years, Jessie still has to showcase & execute certain feats before I would regard her as one really. I though lyric spinto before, but im not an expert so wasnt sure.
As you can see from the video, her whistle register hasn't been included in her overall vocal range. Its there to show her potential, because some of them may be exclamations but are good whistle tones. I have no doubt she can access that register with relative control
If your not going to bring any facts forward on Celine specifically around her vocals, then I am not interested. Beyonce has completely mastered her voice. Her phrasing, dynamics, coloratura, projection and vocal line are solid. Celine has never showcased to the same level what Beyonce has is any of those areas or in any register other than her mid belts. But even then what she shows is limited, loud is all she has shown. Fact
No. A spinto is a lyric voice basically, but with more chest resonance added to the head voice. Which causes the lyric voice to seem to have a bigger volume. Not all lyric voices can add a darker color to their timbre (the chest voice) because of various individual factors, thus not all lyric voices have a spinto quality.
''The actual trinity: Kelly, Jessie, Beyonce'' ''A spinto is a lyric voice basically, but with more chest resonance added to the head voice. Which causes the lyric voice to seem to have a bigger volume'' Some people....
Cant really judge her competence in the upper belts from this video due to them being recorded almost 2 years ago, with how much shes improved can be seen from her live performances.
I will yeah, but not just with that F6, she has few whistle tones that arent just squeeks either, but I want to wait abit, see if she gives us anything more, in headvoice too.
Yes you've got it, except a Spinto is a separate category. But ultimately they are darker (full) lyrics that also posses dramatic qualities, in relation to the size of their voice.
the way she does the whistle tone is called something specific and i can't remember. Can someone help me out. It's the way she almost screams at the end of a note like at the end of mamma knows best
Oh yes, Leona is mos def a Mezzo. It's one thing to sing in the middle range (4th octave) but being truly comfortable there is another story. Tammy Taylor (Gospel singer) is a Soprano although she doesn't have the best intonation. Check out Gospel Sopranos...those ladies know they are true Sopranos whether they have taken lessons or not. Jessie J would be thrown in as a 2nd Soprano in a choir.
Jessie J, although she exhibits great agility & speed, but a lot of sopranos can execute melismatic lines, with practice. She has yet to showcase complex vocal lines or even rapid staccato, along with the precision that coincides with being categorised a coloratura.
I agree with her voice having the color a spinto is supposed to have (darker but still definitely a soprano), but what instances have there been of her stretching her voice to that of a dramatic as far as volume is concerned? Not at all trying to say you're wrong, I'd just like to see specific instances if you can think of any off hand :)
Well, a supported factor would be to have the true ability to stay on pitch. Yes, she can hit high Soprano notes but she won't stay on pitch. IDK, it is still hard for me to place and call her as a Soprano. Yes, she has a great range but her most natural and comfortable voice seems to be Mezzo. I make judgement on where they sing MOST comfortably and naturally...in other words tessitura. I hope I'm being fair overall but the video is a great demonstration of her range.
Alright.....To be fair, this is only a debate. Half the times vocal teachers have different opinions on people. To me, she sounds more beautiful when she sings in the middle register which is where she is most comfortable.
Yeah but it shows that Celine is very popular and a lot of people like her voice, Also Simon Cowell said that Beyoncé was not a great singer but a good performer.
Yeah but even Randy Jackson said that Celine, Mariah and Whitney are the voices of the modern era so how can Beyoncé be better, Watch Celine singing when the wrong one loves you right with Beyoncé and she makes Beyoncé look like a backing singer, Like what Cher said about Celine, I Quote - " She is the best singer in the world, Diane Warren- Celine is the best singer by far of her generation, Even Beyoncé herself loves Celine's Voice
You a your Jessie hehehehe. She's really gotten good. I didn't like any of her upperbelts realy in this video(I much perfer her live, after the improvement). Great video! So well done! She's going to be a powerful vocalist the older and more experience she gets. Her and Beyonce need a duet like yesterday(alhough, I'm picturing a melismatic and colortura showdown).
You should listen to big white room when she sings the third part i guess when she say just smile !! I think ur gonna add it .. Its much higher than any 1 u've putted
You could make a video to showcase the performance of Jessie: 'Who You Are (VEVO Presents Jessie J, Live in London) "[.../watch?v=W4gkUDHR7VU] It has sharp notes as well as an A5 in chest voice and a very serious note at the very end. I would like to know what it was .... I believe that a C3 or maybe a B2 gradient. (: thanks
Everything you have just listed is wrong. Jessie has freely belted through to Bb5 & has hit many A5's. Her headvoice is light, agile, that of a soprano Her timbre is not dark, she has a metalic sound, much like Patti labelle. Jessies technique has come leaps & bounds, and hardly uses falsetto in replacment for belts. Jessie = Soprano
That's your opinon but even Beyoncé herself refer Celine Voice to be the most beautiful voice in the world and does admires her, Say whatever you want but you cannot say that Celine is not one of the greatest, Lots of people in the music world has praised Celine for her vocals and for her voice so your point is useless. She is also the best selling female singer of all time selling over 220 Million Albums.
You wouldn't refer to them as a "lyric spinto" though, because they're still two distinctly different voice qualities. Even if what you're saying is true, and the differences between the two AREN'T highly pronounced, they still fall under different sub-categories of the soprano voice classification. Spintos have a darker timbre and heavier sound than lyrics do PERIOD. They pretty much bridge the gap between lyric and dramatic.
How can Beyoncé be a better vocalist than Celine when she is not even considered to be in the vocal trinty which is Celine, Mariah, Whitney, Even Beyoncé considered Celine to have the most beautiful voice in the world. Also Celine killed her when singing with her with Destiny's Child.
It is slightly odd. But neither Jessie, Leona or Adele had technique down so maybe depending on your area would depend on how much training vocally you get, maybe its more music orientated, develping them as artists as apposed to technical/broadway singers.
Being a soprano doesnt equate to being superb in the upper belts, alot of singers have ease in the mids when they have an upper extention. Jessie has come along way technically, the true qualities of her voice are pushed, light & agile. Her upper register is extended & light. When refering to belting her uppers have great resonance and she keep consistant tonal quality all the way to A5, with ease. She isnt a perfect vocalist, so her technique falls at imes in both mid & uppers.
So, "spinto" isn't actually a separate sub-category of the soprano classification all on its own, it's merely used to denote a heavier, darker timbre possessed by a LYRIC soprano? In more basic terms...all spintos are lyric sopranos by classification, but not all lyric sopranos possess the qualifying standards of what you would term a "spinto"? I always thought they were two completely different ways of classifying a soprano.
You could help yourself by not wasting either of our time and by learning that you have no obligation opening your pretentious, self-entitled mouth because your existence is utterly irrelevant. ;)
Anthony Nordin How were they being pretentious??? They were just saying it doesn't help anyone by just saying it's inaccurate. You could have said, "This video was actually quite inaccurate. The notes weren't exactly right for the most part. Maybe you could double check the notes next time. I'm not trying to put you down but anyways, good video!" Instead of what you did, which is completely useless by the way. And also, neither are you obligated to open your pretentious mouth
+Oliver Phillips I have no obligation to respond to you, yet I will both humor and humble you. I made a statement - a true, factual statement. Her vocal range is far beyond that. I merely said it was inaccurate. Nothing negative because it's true. The video is inaccurate. How is what I said useless? Are you going to be THIS ignorant? If anything, it helped out the person who posted it. I informed them it was inaccurate. I did not discredit the video or the person who posted it nor did I have anything negative to say about it. I stated an obvious fact. Even if it was not a fact it is still an opinion, and opinions are never incorrect because that is the way something feels about something. +Heavenly was completely out of line by saying that my comment was pointless. Also, she contracted herself. By definiton, critique is meant to be positive. It is meant to give someone an opinion that could help them out, and that is exactly what I did. By saying "pointless criticism" she set herself of for mockery and contradiction. You don't see me sitting back tearing you apart for saying that my statement was useless, and you don't see me shredding you for your ill use of grammar. That would be both pointless and irrelevant. Even though you have given me ample opportunity to do so, I've decided to not take advantage of your illiteracy. Now, back to your "pointless" statement... I never said anything about the notes. As far as I'm concerned, the notes were accurate. I was focused more on Jessie J's range. Her range is far beyond what they have posted, and coming from a person who humbly respects this artist, I feel that she is much more gifted that what most of the public perceives her as. She's an underrated vocalist who, in my opinion, is one of the best female voices in history. With that said, I was simply defining Jessie J's name. I said a video was inaccurate, and without knowledge of what I meant, you decided to take the initiate and waste your time to attempt to attack someone through the Internet. Since you have enough time to do so, how about next time, if there will be a next time, before presumptuous bigotists, such as yourself and +Heavenly, assume the absolute worst by a vague statement, go ahead an take the time to ask what the statement meant instead of getting uncontrollably defensive. I said a video was inaccurate, and without knowledge of what I meant, you decided to take the initiative and waste your time to attempt to attack someone through the Internet.
Anthony Nordin Okay, first, my grammar wasn't wrong. A few words here and there but that's only because I type EXTREMELY fast. Also, my use of 'they' was grammatically correct as I have no idea whether or not she is a he or a she. And what illiteracy? You're honestly very pretentious. I didn't want to bore you with my extensive vocabulary so I just wrote the simplest words I could write. Now that I see that you're actually a very intellectual person, I shall now display my true vocabulary for you. However, I must disagree that Jessie is an underrated vocalist as she has produced many albums and has worked with many a stars like her recent song 'Bang Bang' with Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande! She does have mastery over her instrument and is able to display top-notch melisma that of which isn't messy like Christina Aguilera's. I also have to apologise for my pessimistic personality as it hinders me but yet renders me to see the danger in certain circumstances/situations. I apologise for 'attacking' you good sir. All sarcasm aside, I'm joyous to see another member of the 'grammar police'! I've caught a scent of grammar gone amiss somewhere in the internet so I will be back soon. My sincerity goes to you, my friend. Thank you.
No way is she a dramatic soprano lol If she was her belts would have a much fuller, chesty and steely sound to them. Her voice is too light and doesn't have that cold sound to her voice like patti and Monica naranjo do. I'd say she's a mezzo either lyric or coloratura. If soprano, she might be a lyric maybe not sure. I love her though! She's improved a ton.
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love how you've picked clips from different points in her career :) thanks for the upload
As her voice develops & her technique improves her instrument is imo, showing itself to be that of a spinto as apposed to full lyric.
Nice video! Can't wait for her 2nd album. That G5 - Bb5 was nice too.
She is AMAZING! I love her. I love her vocal acrobats all the way around. LOVED that last G5-Bb5
Wow!! It's obvious she's been working on her range :D I hear so much improvement in her upper chest voice
she's better than Bey guys
When she releases 10 amazing albums and have had Bey's career she'll surely be. Don't put too much pressure on her by now
Lol not even close her highest note is Bb5 and Bey's E6 and her lowest note is D3 While Bey's lowest note is F2
Bey is Only One note away from 4 octaves and and Jessie doesn't even have 3 octaves
you're just one of those kids who are easily impressed by the tone and forget that the Vocalist needs way more then just sounding good she a cry away from even reaching Beyonce's mid belts let allot her whole range
But yeah anyways Love Jessie...
Better then Bey Child SIT
TayTay Nippy In fact, as researched, Jessie has 3 octaves, 2 notes and a semi tone C#3- F6 (and growing), and Bey's is 3.3 octaves and 2 semitones. Ab2- Eb6 (approx). Furthermore, Jessie has whistle register and B doesn't, so they're not that far.
Plus, Jessie has the ability to sing complex melisma without issue, she has the control to be able to sing trills. She can also hold notes for lengths of time without loss of quality to the sound and sing complex and lengthy vocal lines in a single breath, just like B.
And talking about Jessie crying away from Bey's mid belts, Jessie's belting range is elastic and energetic, being able to reach high into the fifth octave, with the aid of mixing.
As I said, Jessie's not better than Bey, but give her time, she works really hard.
Desiree Barrios Beyonce has A full 4 octave range F2 in her "latest self titled album"
and F#2 in "Destiny's child Christmas album" a G#2 in "Schoolin' Life" an A2 in "Disappear" and an A#2 that peaks at an A2 in "Dangerously in love" B2 in "Single ladies" allot of "C3/C#3's" in "Halo" and "Me Myself & I"
a sustain F#4 in "The Beautiful Ones" a Sustained G#4 in "Halo" a Sustained Bb4 for 14 or 16 seconds not sure in "Flaws And All"
a Sustained B4 in "Listen" a Sustain C5/C#5 in "Best Thing I Never Had & New York New York" a Sustained D5 in "Dangerously in love"
a Sustained Eb5/E5 In "Halo/Ring The Alarm" a Sustained F5 in "Dangerously in Love" for 8 seconds and a sustained F#5 in "Sighed Sealed Delivered" a couple G5's in "Work it Out/Why Don't You Love Me/Deja Vu"
G#5 in "Back Up/Sugar Mama/Why Don't You Love Me" A5 that Peaks at a Bb5 in "The Beautiful Ones" a Sustained C6 in "Emotions" and C6 with Staccato riffs in "I Care" A C#6 in "Scared Of Lonely" a D6 In "Me Myself & I"
an Eb6 in "1+1" an E6 in "Happy Face" an F6 in "Crazy In Love" (which allot of people might say it's an Exclamation)
A F2-F6 4 Octaves and without the F6 it's it 3.7
Beyonce's lower register is dark and Strong
Beyonce has A breath capacity that goes beyond typical sustained vocal lines...Extended roulades without breath interruption that helps all of her full round staccato riffs even at the 5th and 6th octave...Mesmerizing Diminuendos and Crescendos in a downward chromatic scale with Cristal clear tone that helps her slid down from F4 up to F5
Beyonce's Belts are supported resonant with her Neutral larynx and her evenly mixed belts. She's done C5's with crescendo, ease and vibrato. Melismatic phrasing. E5 sustained with vibrato, several F5's sustained with no struggle And last but certainly not least Beyonce uses a Full rounded Head Voice.
And BTW I'm Not Trying to Discredit Jessie from anything I believe she's miles away from the word mediocre singer :)
TayTay Nippy We'll have to wait for Jessie's upcoming 3rd album to come out and start analyzing every performance because her vocals are always better live. I know you're not trying to discredit her, neither am I, I just wanted to share some information about it ;)
I love jessie and think her voice is amazing how she hits some of those notes I will never know xxx
I used to think she was a mezzo during the earlier part of her career, but her post-Who You Are era has clearly established her as a dramatic soprano. She's a fantastic singer with an incredibly well-built voice.
this is extremely inaccurate
She´s awesome !!! I think she´s one of the best singer in the pop right now ♥´ Thanks for the video :))
Can you plz tell me the names of all the songs that were playing.
Just because the masses state a vocal trinity, doesn't make it so. It is dismissed the same way the masses say Christina is a voice of a generation.
I'm not saying Celine doesn't have a voice, but Beyoncé has complete control of her instrument & uses her instrument with true musicianship.
Lisa F, Beyoncé, Beverley K, Lara F are all women who surpass Celine vocally & musically.
Opinions are like sphincters: EVERY HAS ONE (and they are entitled to have it!) The thing about arguing over who sings better is a losing fight, since each listener may like or admire different elements of someone's voice. On sheer technique, many in music today have strengths & weaknesses that may set them apart (yes even YOUR favorite can make mistakes), but almost all of those debated over most HAVE TALENT.
The voice is a thing of beauty, just remember: BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.
Her agilty is great, I hope for more of that in headvoice on her next album.
Cheers for watching
Hello if you do not mind - can you do a LIVE VOCAL RANGE VIDEO FOR JESSIE J?!?!?! Along with a studio vocal range video for her debut album WHO YOU ARE, her sophomore effort ALIVE, & her 3rd LP SWEET TALKER?!??!?!?! SHE IS SO GOOD & I LOVE THIS GIRL! SHE IS THE TRUTH!! ALSO SHE DOES NOT HAVE MANY VOCAL RANGE VIDEOS UP FOR SOME REASON!!
what song is in E3-F3? please!!!
Whats the first second fourth fifth sixth seventh song are?
Ill be doing a live vocal range, but not yet, she has alot of live shows this year so im waiting until after that.
The note at the end is Eb3
Home girl can saaaang! Didn't know that! But those "whistle" notes don't count. They sound like screeching sounds.
She's phenomenal.
Celine has always been praised for her vocals, Her range is so much higher than Beyoncé's range and that's why she is said to be in the same league as Whitney and Mariah and The vocal trinty is made up of the 3 greatest vocalist of all time, Celine, Whitney, Mariah, I have NEVER heard anyone say that Beyoncé was better than Celine, Only just by some Beyoncé fans, Has anyone from the music industry said that Beyoncé was a better singer than Celine, Name one person if you can think of any lol.
The British Trinity, at least in my mind: Jessie J, Leona Lewis, and Amy Winehouse. Each have their comparison to the Vocal Trinity from America-land (including the Canadians) - Amy was incredibly soulful, and though she rarely showed it - had an INCREDIBLY capable voice, with great power like Whitney. Leona has the balladeer in her that coincides with Celine, and Jessie has the fun 'fuck it all' attitude that can turn serious along with killer vocals and RANGE like Mimi (2000s Mariah).
Well the improvement can be seen through her entire range, her C#5s for example have a brighter quality, much more ease & resonance. I just hope for more headvoice in her next work, shes quite inventive vocally & her range in that register could make for some great notes.
She has belted 'effortless' F's'G's&A's.
Her tessitura is soprano, her low mid belts are light & metallic - listen to that C#5 in Remember Me.
Her lows are audible but relativley weak, with a LIGHT headvoice.
You havnt given any supported factors to her being a mezzo, other than you think her high notes are stressed, which is no even the case with her at present as her technique has come on drastically since her debut.
Great video. I love Jessie. Her upper belting register has a lot to improve yet, though.
her voice is
I think she's a coloratura. Her precision & agility echos the skill Bey has.
what song please 1:52
Rainbow
Thanks Micky Heartbeat
What is the G5-Bb5 song called? It sounds so good. =D
Run Baby
Her voice definitely has the icy, steely sound to it for sure (especially on her upper belts. Her G5's in "Domino" are perfect examples) however you're right when she doesn't have the volume capabilities as they do.
Not necessarily no, a voice may darken with age & within opera spinto's can sing dramatic passages with competence through a solid technique and training. But the size of their voice does not change, generally it will never be that of a dramatic.
In relation to Jessie, her voice does have a slightly metallic quality, not the warmer timbre a full lyric. Although she technique isn't solid yet (there is still tension) she has exhibited the size of sound you could expect from spinto's.
She's one of the best singers in our generation.
The actual trinity: Kelly, Jessie, Beyonce.
Live range C#3-D7
I wasnt classifying her as a coloratura, I am saying her melismic skill echos that of Bey in her first few years, Jessie still has to showcase & execute certain feats before I would regard her as one really.
I though lyric spinto before, but im not an expert so wasnt sure.
Did you see the end of the video?.. Did I count her whistle tones as part of her range?..
Cheers, thanks for watching
As you can see from the video, her whistle register hasn't been included in her overall vocal range. Its there to show her potential, because some of them may be exclamations but are good whistle tones. I have no doubt she can access that register with relative control
If your not going to bring any facts forward on Celine specifically around her vocals, then I am not interested.
Beyonce has completely mastered her voice. Her phrasing, dynamics, coloratura, projection and vocal line are solid. Celine has never showcased to the same level what Beyonce has is any of those areas or in any register other than her mid belts. But even then what she shows is limited, loud is all she has shown. Fact
Yeah since the begining she really is doinga 'Bey'... Mastering her technique & her full voice is forming.
C#7.. Are you serious????
No. A spinto is a lyric voice basically, but with more chest resonance added to the head voice. Which causes the lyric voice to seem to have a bigger volume. Not all lyric voices can add a darker color to their timbre (the chest voice) because of various individual factors, thus not all lyric voices have a spinto quality.
Yeah sorry that was me he was referring to, I said she may be a dramatic coloratura because of her timbre on her upper belts haha
''The actual trinity: Kelly, Jessie, Beyonce''
''A spinto is a lyric voice basically, but with more chest resonance added to the head voice. Which causes the lyric voice to seem to have a bigger volume''
Some people....
AMAZING =D
Cant really judge her competence in the upper belts from this video due to them being recorded almost 2 years ago, with how much shes improved can be seen from her live performances.
Did you, this new layout doesnt notify me when I get any thing lol, aplogese. I'll check now
I will yeah, but not just with that F6, she has few whistle tones that arent just squeeks either, but I want to wait abit, see if she gives us anything more, in headvoice too.
Yes you've got it, except a Spinto is a separate category. But ultimately they are darker (full) lyrics that also posses dramatic qualities, in relation to the size of their voice.
the way she does the whistle tone is called something specific and i can't remember. Can someone help me out. It's the way she almost screams at the end of a note like at the end of mamma knows best
i see. what's the name of the song that G# belt is from (the one you used)?
Oh yes, Leona is mos def a Mezzo. It's one thing to sing in the middle range (4th octave) but being truly comfortable there is another story. Tammy Taylor (Gospel singer) is a Soprano although she doesn't have the best intonation. Check out Gospel Sopranos...those ladies know they are true Sopranos whether they have taken lessons or not. Jessie J would be thrown in as a 2nd Soprano in a choir.
Jessie J, although she exhibits great agility & speed, but a lot of sopranos can execute melismatic lines, with practice. She has yet to showcase complex vocal lines or even rapid staccato, along with the precision that coincides with being categorised a coloratura.
She belts an A5 in her new song :D
I agree with her voice having the color a spinto is supposed to have (darker but still definitely a soprano), but what instances have there been of her stretching her voice to that of a dramatic as far as volume is concerned? Not at all trying to say you're wrong, I'd just like to see specific instances if you can think of any off hand :)
I chose not use any others if thats what you mean.
Well, a supported factor would be to have the true ability to stay on pitch. Yes, she can hit high Soprano notes but she won't stay on pitch. IDK, it is still hard for me to place and call her as a Soprano. Yes, she has a great range but her most natural and comfortable voice seems to be Mezzo. I make judgement on where they sing MOST comfortably and naturally...in other words tessitura. I hope I'm being fair overall but the video is a great demonstration of her range.
Alright.....To be fair, this is only a debate. Half the times vocal teachers have different opinions on people. To me, she sounds more beautiful when she sings in the middle register which is where she is most comfortable.
The Mezzo Tessitura is quite obvious . .
What song in 5:21?plzz
Yeah but it shows that Celine is very popular and a lot of people like her voice, Also Simon Cowell said that Beyoncé was not a great singer but a good performer.
What song is the G5 thats says "get ready to soar"...?
Yeah but even Randy Jackson said that Celine, Mariah and Whitney are the voices of the modern era so how can Beyoncé be better, Watch Celine singing when the wrong one loves you right with Beyoncé and she makes Beyoncé look like a backing singer, Like what Cher said about Celine, I Quote - " She is the best singer in the world, Diane Warren- Celine is the best singer by far of her generation, Even Beyoncé herself loves Celine's Voice
You a your Jessie hehehehe. She's really gotten good. I didn't like any of her upperbelts realy in this video(I much perfer her live, after the improvement). Great video! So well done! She's going to be a powerful vocalist the older and more experience she gets. Her and Beyonce need a duet like yesterday(alhough, I'm picturing a melismatic and colortura showdown).
Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand what A5, B4 etc mean :/
She isnt a mezzo, especially now her entire range, tessitura & colour are showing. Soprano, without a doubt.
Do you plan to revamp her live VR with her F6 on the voice?
@Dam112 I wasn't going at you, just generalizing.
what song is the last G5!!!? 5:15
Now I understand. I've sent you a message on your inbox yesterday.
That and strengthening her lower register..
You should listen to big white room when she sings the third part i guess when she say just smile !! I think ur gonna add it .. Its much higher than any 1 u've putted
You could make a video to showcase the performance of Jessie: 'Who You Are (VEVO Presents Jessie J, Live in London) "[.../watch?v=W4gkUDHR7VU]
It has sharp notes as well as an A5 in chest voice and a very serious note at the very end. I would like to know what it was .... I believe that a C3 or maybe a B2 gradient. (: thanks
What's the song at 4:57? Her last F#5
My Shadow
I never said she was a dramatic anything.?
Jessie does have lighter metallic sound though, ultimatley her voice doesnt have the size to be dramatic
She can hit G7 check her recent Instagram and you can she her singing the G7 whistle tones to Maria carey
'Run Baby Run' I think
what's the song on 00:52 ??
what songs she sings?
What is the song at 5:19?
You know I'd even say she's a coloratura. Her voice is about as agile as Beyonce's in comparison tbh
she screechs
Everything you have just listed is wrong.
Jessie has freely belted through to Bb5 & has hit many A5's.
Her headvoice is light, agile, that of a soprano
Her timbre is not dark, she has a metalic sound, much like Patti labelle.
Jessies technique has come leaps & bounds, and hardly uses falsetto in replacment for belts.
Jessie = Soprano
That's your opinon but even Beyoncé herself refer Celine Voice to be the most beautiful voice in the world and does admires her, Say whatever you want but you cannot say that Celine is not one of the greatest, Lots of people in the music world has praised Celine for her vocals and for her voice so your point is useless. She is also the best selling female singer of all time selling over 220 Million Albums.
Why?
i dont if i would really count her whistle register. for it to really count doesnt she need to be able to hold it?
well she has a great voice but that is not a whistle notes!!!! Only guttural contractions of her muscle's throat!!!!
You wouldn't refer to them as a "lyric spinto" though, because they're still two distinctly different voice qualities. Even if what you're saying is true, and the differences between the two AREN'T highly pronounced, they still fall under different sub-categories of the soprano voice classification. Spintos have a darker timbre and heavier sound than lyrics do PERIOD. They pretty much bridge the gap between lyric and dramatic.
How can Beyoncé be a better vocalist than Celine when she is not even considered to be in the vocal trinty which is Celine, Mariah, Whitney, Even Beyoncé considered Celine to have the most beautiful voice in the world. Also Celine killed her when singing with her with Destiny's Child.
I think its called 'Run Baby'
It is slightly odd. But neither Jessie, Leona or Adele had technique down so maybe depending on your area would depend on how much training vocally you get, maybe its more music orientated, develping them as artists as apposed to technical/broadway singers.
you have to break down for me, how do you belt a whistle??? is something that you make in your head not in your chest.
she can hit a A5 live :P
Being a soprano doesnt equate to being superb in the upper belts, alot of singers have ease in the mids when they have an upper extention.
Jessie has come along way technically, the true qualities of her voice are pushed, light & agile. Her upper register is extended & light.
When refering to belting her uppers have great resonance and she keep consistant tonal quality all the way to A5, with ease. She isnt a perfect vocalist, so her technique falls at imes in both mid & uppers.
So, "spinto" isn't actually a separate sub-category of the soprano classification all on its own, it's merely used to denote a heavier, darker timbre possessed by a LYRIC soprano? In more basic terms...all spintos are lyric sopranos by classification, but not all lyric sopranos possess the qualifying standards of what you would term a "spinto"? I always thought they were two completely different ways of classifying a soprano.
This is more inaccurate than I could ever imagine.
You could help yourself by not wasting either of our time and by learning that you have no obligation opening your pretentious, self-entitled mouth because your existence is utterly irrelevant. ;)
Anthony Nordin How were they being pretentious??? They were just saying it doesn't help anyone by just saying it's inaccurate. You could have said, "This video was actually quite inaccurate. The notes weren't exactly right for the most part. Maybe you could double check the notes next time. I'm not trying to put you down but anyways, good video!" Instead of what you did, which is completely useless by the way. And also, neither are you obligated to open your pretentious mouth
+Oliver Phillips I have no obligation to respond to you, yet I will both humor and humble you. I made a statement - a true, factual statement. Her vocal range is far beyond that. I merely said it was inaccurate. Nothing negative because it's true. The video is inaccurate. How is what I said useless? Are you going to be THIS ignorant? If anything, it helped out the person who posted it. I informed them it was inaccurate. I did not discredit the video or the person who posted it nor did I have anything negative to say about it. I stated an obvious fact. Even if it was not a fact it is still an opinion, and opinions are never incorrect because that is the way something feels about something. +Heavenly was completely out of line by saying that my comment was pointless. Also, she contracted herself. By definiton, critique is meant to be positive. It is meant to give someone an opinion that could help them out, and that is exactly what I did. By saying "pointless criticism" she set herself of for mockery and contradiction. You don't see me sitting back tearing you apart for saying that my statement was useless, and you don't see me shredding you for your ill use of grammar. That would be both pointless and irrelevant. Even though you have given me ample opportunity to do so, I've decided to not take advantage of your illiteracy. Now, back to your "pointless" statement... I never said anything about the notes. As far as I'm concerned, the notes were accurate. I was focused more on Jessie J's range. Her range is far beyond what they have posted, and coming from a person who humbly respects this artist, I feel that she is much more gifted that what most of the public perceives her as. She's an underrated vocalist who, in my opinion, is one of the best female voices in history. With that said, I was simply defining Jessie J's name. I said a video was inaccurate, and without knowledge of what I meant, you decided to take the initiate and waste your time to attempt to attack someone through the Internet. Since you have enough time to do so, how about next time, if there will be a next time, before presumptuous bigotists, such as yourself and +Heavenly, assume the absolute worst by a vague statement, go ahead an take the time to ask what the statement meant instead of getting uncontrollably defensive. I said a video was inaccurate, and without knowledge of what I meant, you decided to take the initiative and waste your time to attempt to attack someone through the Internet.
Anthony Nordin Okay, first, my grammar wasn't wrong. A few words here and there but that's only because I type EXTREMELY fast. Also, my use of 'they' was grammatically correct as I have no idea whether or not she is a he or a she.
And what illiteracy? You're honestly very pretentious. I didn't want to bore you with my extensive vocabulary so I just wrote the simplest words I could write. Now that I see that you're actually a very intellectual person, I shall now display my true vocabulary for you.
However, I must disagree that Jessie is an underrated vocalist as she has produced many albums and has worked with many a stars like her recent song 'Bang Bang' with Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande! She does have mastery over her instrument and is able to display top-notch melisma that of which isn't messy like Christina Aguilera's. I also have to apologise for my pessimistic personality as it hinders me but yet renders me to see the danger in certain circumstances/situations. I apologise for 'attacking' you good sir.
All sarcasm aside, I'm joyous to see another member of the 'grammar police'! I've caught a scent of grammar gone amiss somewhere in the internet so I will be back soon.
My sincerity goes to you, my friend. Thank you.
Oliver Phillips I have no time to read your comment. Your existence is futile and irrelevant to mine. Good day.
Leona is also a Soprano not a mezzo.
Really? When and where? Is on TH-cam?
No way is she a dramatic soprano lol If she was her belts would have a much fuller, chesty and steely sound to them. Her voice is too light and doesn't have that cold sound to her voice like patti and Monica naranjo do. I'd say she's a mezzo either lyric or coloratura. If soprano, she might be a lyric maybe not sure. I love her though! She's improved a ton.
Really Coloratura Soprano? Not not not! She is Lyric Spinto Soprano.