I kinda find it ironic that this happened while they were recording a music video for a song called "Good Day", because that most definitely wasn't a good day for them-
I always thought that the song was supposed to feel like a sort of advertisement for RP, constantly talking about how safe it is at night, and then the "Rotary Park is ablaze after dark" line is supposed to be the corporate mask finally coming off and acknowledging the horrible stuff that happens there.
do you hear the flibbidy jibber jabber with an oh my god i gotta get out of here or i’ll have another worry to sell another story to tell another timepiece ringing the bell, do you hear the clock stop when you reach the end no you know it must be never ending comprehend if you can but when you try to pretend to understand you resemble a fool even though you’re only a man so give it up and smile
Same it's so fucking good. I love how monotone Joe sounds throughout the song, and then you get the "THIS MORNING I WOKE FROM A NIGHTMARE AND FELL OUT OF BED" part. And also just the disturbingly beautiful harmony of Joe and Zubin throughout the song.
rotary park is ablaze after dark this line, to me, means the moment of chaos during joe and zubin getting robbed. Because that was AFTER DARK, during the day when they were rob. Ablaze also means "filled with anger or another strong emotion" which might be fitting for the robbers but i think also joe and zubin, they are angry, scared, sad, etc etc recalling the event.
The line about Pontiac stamping his name was a reference to how the British made a truce with Pontiac after their defeats, and Pontiac never attacked them again(the same goes for the British to Pontiac). We know that didn't happen, but it most likely alludes to how Joe and Zubin don't go near Rotary Park anymore, and when they do, while they expect the same event as last time, it doesn't happen.
This is a different editing style, a bit more like mine. I like how you did it. This was very insightful with the little information we truly know about the Rotary park incident. It's a very well loved song with some classic unclear meanings from Joe. Overall, I really enjoyed this video!
5:01 it’s a blaze cuz it’s fun & exciting to prance in the dark, that & ya know…420 blaze it… Wait never mind, there’s no space between the a & blaze so it’s used to mean it’s on fire lol. Could still tie to either weed or people cuz it’s full of activity & that activity is compared to the warmth of a fire.
The lion “dreaming of Zion” is a reference to a building just around the corner of the Pontiac, MI rotary park. I suggest going to google street view, iirc it’s southeast of the park
This is a very interesting explanation and analysis! Ive always thought of the song as trying to ironically paint Rotary Park as a swell place and (in some way) lie to the listener to make the song sound eerie and not quite right if that makes sense lol. Love this different view of the song!
2:52 I believe that "Chief Pontiac" may refer to a police chief in Pontiac michigan "stamping his name on the mark" and dismissing claims about the mugging. By stamping his name (or signing) he says that rotary park is safe. This is reinforced by your analysis of the "beuracracy throes" line when you say that perhaps they did nothing to help. 5:52
This might be a stretch but in Turn The Lights Off (which Joe wrote) there’s a line that says “And everybody wants to get evil tonight But all good devils masquerade under the light” He & Zubin were robbed and mugged, which was done by an “evil” person. Idk if someone else has said this
I have a theory about the “Chief Pontiac stamped his name on the mark” line: it’s not actually talking about Chief Pontiac, instead, it’s talking about a police chief *in* Pontiac. Maybe him “stamping his name on the mark” is him signing some document related to the police investigation of the mugging?
Great video dude! It’s a of a bit different style and I think it looks good, the editing must of been a lot of work cause b-roll and a lovely visit for talpat aswell lol anyways I suck I writing comment’s, bottom line is that it’s a great video had a good time watching and kept me hooked all the way thru.
Woah, this was an awesome explanation video. I don't really understand Joe's poetic writing, so i really like to see these videos to know what the songs are about! Could you do a video explaining Turn The Lights Off? I've seen comments saying that it's about puberty, but i don't really get it.
My theory was “Rotary Park is ablaze after dark” could be saying the night is like the new day, as day usually has positive connotations, but it is flipped in this song. “ablaze” makes me think of the sun, so maybe the night feels more “bright” than the day which is now considered dark after the incident? That’s really convoluted but it’s my thought process 🤷♀️
It’s honestly quite sad to know this little story that happened during the filming for Good Day. No one deserves to get robbed and get beaten especially when it causes trauma. Life or Death situations can be difficult to deal with it and i wouldn’t be surprise if this was a little bit hard reliving that experience just to think of the lyrics by itself.
i think the ablaze after dark might mean something different they got robbed in the day so their rage and emotions hate the day there, thus opting for the night but then they realize Its the location, not the time
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(tyla and joseph did actually get robbed, it wasn’t good)
it feels illegal to be here this early 😭
OH SHIT! Hope they're ok!!
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my condolences :[
I kinda find it ironic that this happened while they were recording a music video for a song called "Good Day", because that most definitely wasn't a good day for them-
Same lol
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I think Good Day is cursed, because when I listened to it; my car got rear ended- 💀
@@Simply_Dusk oh goodness-
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I always thought that the song was supposed to feel like a sort of advertisement for RP, constantly talking about how safe it is at night, and then the "Rotary Park is ablaze after dark" line is supposed to be the corporate mask finally coming off and acknowledging the horrible stuff that happens there.
I think the "Bureaucracy throes" line is again saying how Joe felt he had no control over the situation and so felt intense pain because of it.
7:05
".....I was observing the birds....
*circle in for the kill* "
“I’ve been you I know you your façade is a scam”
“Your making me cry it’s the way that I am😢”
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@@kuro-the-sillyoh no no, oh yeah
do you hear the flibbidy jibber jabber with an oh my god i gotta get out of here or i’ll have another worry to sell another story to tell another timepiece ringing the bell, do you hear the clock stop when you reach the end no you know it must be never ending comprehend if you can but when you try to pretend to understand you resemble a fool even though you’re only a man so give it up and smile
2:06 this photo breaks me so much i feel so bad
I'm starting to think Rotary Park is safe after dark
Fr
FNAF
Same… idk tho
Rotary park is my favorite Joe Hawley song
Same :D
Agreed
average rotary park fan vs black people white people enjoyer
I like some parts of it
Same it's so fucking good. I love how monotone Joe sounds throughout the song, and then you get the "THIS MORNING I WOKE FROM A NIGHTMARE AND FELL OUT OF BED" part. And also just the disturbingly beautiful harmony of Joe and Zubin throughout the song.
I’m scared to go to Rotary Park now
rotary park is ablaze after dark
this line, to me, means the moment of chaos during joe and zubin getting robbed. Because that was AFTER DARK, during the day when they were rob. Ablaze also means "filled with anger or another strong emotion" which might be fitting for the robbers but i think also joe and zubin, they are angry, scared, sad, etc etc recalling the event.
Feel bad for joe and zubes
zubs*
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I once had rotary park on repeat for a hour just staring at the ceiling HELPPP
wow you're so quirky
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I did. that with dream sweet in sea major 😭
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I almost did that with the entirety of Hawaii part ii yesterday
The line about Pontiac stamping his name was a reference to how the British made a truce with Pontiac after their defeats, and Pontiac never attacked them again(the same goes for the British to Pontiac). We know that didn't happen, but it most likely alludes to how Joe and Zubin don't go near Rotary Park anymore, and when they do, while they expect the same event as last time, it doesn't happen.
another quality video but tal, i really did not need to be jumpscared by the thumbnail of joe bleeding from the mouth 😭
This is a different editing style, a bit more like mine. I like how you did it. This was very insightful with the little information we truly know about the Rotary park incident. It's a very well loved song with some classic unclear meanings from Joe. Overall, I really enjoyed this video!
I started it right after I finished my Fate Of The Stars video (which has a similar style) but ended up not continuing it for aaages lol
@@tallyballYT I see, I like it! Though I also get why you have your own style of editing :D
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5:01 it’s a blaze cuz it’s fun & exciting to prance in the dark, that & ya know…420 blaze it…
Wait never mind, there’s no space between the a & blaze so it’s used to mean it’s on fire lol.
Could still tie to either weed or people cuz it’s full of activity & that activity is compared to the warmth of a fire.
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this place is like a few miles away from me
only go to rotary park after dark
Gmaps?
TALLY THEORY REAL?! Omg, rotary park is one of my favorite joe hawley songs, thank you mother tal!
The lion “dreaming of Zion” is a reference to a building just around the corner of the Pontiac, MI rotary park.
I suggest going to google street view, iirc it’s southeast of the park
why is jack stauber balls talking about tally hall?
I went to THE rotary park, it was as sketchy as it was described as in the song
Ngl when i was still new to tally hall and first saw this photo of joe and zubin i thought joe was a cannibal 💀
Real cannibal Joe Hawley
c- cannibal??? is that a reference to the tally hall song on the 2011 album “good and evil”????
ACTUAL CANNIBAL JOEY LAHAWL
zubin is the willing victim of a cannibal..
Crazy thing is I have a rotary park about 7 minutes away from my house
if you're in michigan (i'm in michigan, in fact, i'm very close to rotary park) then it's most likely *the* rotary park.
@ yeah I’m not at THE rotary park
3:15 ... tally theory is real chat 🙏
finally someone explained it
especially when i just heard about the context of the song like 2 weeks ago
terrible circumstances, but awesome video! thanks for educating everyone about what happened
This is a very interesting explanation and analysis!
Ive always thought of the song as trying to ironically paint Rotary Park as a swell place and (in some way) lie to the listener to make the song sound eerie and not quite right if that makes sense lol.
Love this different view of the song!
2:52
I believe that "Chief Pontiac" may refer to a police chief in Pontiac michigan "stamping his name on the mark" and dismissing claims about the mugging.
By stamping his name (or signing) he says that rotary park is safe. This is reinforced by your analysis of the "beuracracy throes" line when you say that perhaps they did nothing to help.
5:52
6:20 Tal, can't believe you switched up on us like that. I thought you were a true brit. I expect an apology with tears
It’s a Greek name, saying it as ‘Ny-Kee’ isn’t American it’s just correct
wait it's not pronounced neek??? 😨
@@tallyballYT waiting for your ukelele apology 😔
@@Pal_EX hold up, british people say “neek”??? /gen 😭
@@emmaw52 No, we say it "Ny-k". Like how it's spelt. Pronounced "like" but with an "N" instead of an "L"
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i forogt i clicked on a tallyball video and thought it was game theory
Haven’t we all?
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@@DaveVR83came back again to make it clear
@@139_Scarbon they mean the tally hall inspired objecy show not the song
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dude i genuinely love your new style of videos, this is really cool. great work dude
Rotary park is safe after dark... 😔
Neighbors off porches...🥺
Neighbors off porches...
The playground is stark...
MY STICKERS JUST GOT SHIPPED!! I CAN’T WAIT!!
5:06 the lights that turn on at night, maybe?
I’d say the “Ablaze after dark” line is about the street lamps you can see in the picture rotating behind the lyric
beaten and ROBbed?!
like ROB CANTOR?!
from TALLY HALL?!
HOLY SHIT!!!!!
i'm sorry
@@tetrisnstuff8881SORRY FOR BEING THE GOD OF BEING SMART OR WHATEVER?!
what a tally terror
I just love tally hall lore and theory’s
Now I wanna make a good day edit with it eventually turning into rotary park
Ah yes, my favourite channel, Tally Hall Theory
"Clearly this stuck with Joe" yeah I would imagine so mate
Its kinda funny since its in the middle of a normal 5 star restaurant's shopping list
And a "joe moma" joke
This might be a stretch but in Turn The Lights Off (which Joe wrote) there’s a line that says
“And everybody wants to get evil tonight
But all good devils masquerade under the light”
He & Zubin were robbed and mugged, which was done by an “evil” person.
Idk if someone else has said this
Wow! Sabía que AJoe y a Zubin les habían robado pero no sabía que la canción tenía tantas referencias!! Gran video
This is such a great analysis. Good job!
TALPAT okay but i feel really bad for what happened to them :(
Yeah and I think it’s kinda werid when people make jokes about it
AGONIZING
I have a theory about the “Chief Pontiac stamped his name on the mark” line: it’s not actually talking about Chief Pontiac, instead, it’s talking about a police chief *in* Pontiac. Maybe him “stamping his name on the mark” is him signing some document related to the police investigation of the mugging?
I cried bc of that song once idk how or why but I did
Oh cool, my favorite Joe hawley song is secretly tied to a traumatic experience
Interesting topic
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The lion might be a reference to the Lions Club International, a very similar organization to Rotary International that runs Rotary Park
missed opportunity in the intro to continue after 'Rotary park is' with safe after dark XD
Another great video, also one of the only times I've had my race called Native American on the Internet, thanks for that.
this is a really good video, I really enjoy the new editing style, keep up the good work!
p.s. 3:14 thats just a theory a tally theory 🗣🔥🔥
How does this video only has 440+ views but have 50+ comments already 😭
4:25 i think it means that the dark is used to seeing the aftermath
15 seconds of tyla 🗣️🔥🔥🙏🙏
This could be the reason for some joes mental issues, like this rly must have scarred him
Great video dude! It’s a of a bit different style and I think it looks good, the editing must of been a lot of work cause b-roll and a lovely visit for talpat aswell lol anyways I suck I writing comment’s, bottom line is that it’s a great video had a good time watching and kept me hooked all the way thru.
rotary park is ablaze with safety after dark
Great video! It would be great for you to make an Aristotle’s Denial breakdown
This is great. Don't care if I'm a year late this is great
Imagine being the dudes who robbed them and having a banger song made about you
Woah, this was an awesome explanation video. I don't really understand Joe's poetic writing, so i really like to see these videos to know what the songs are about!
Could you do a video explaining Turn The Lights Off? I've seen comments saying that it's about puberty, but i don't really get it.
Hell yea i’m early to this
yes
but thats just a theory, a hall theory
I’m not entirely sure but based on pictures i found im pretty sure the actual park is 233-299 Wessen St in Pontiac
My theory was “Rotary Park is ablaze after dark” could be saying the night is like the new day, as day usually has positive connotations, but it is flipped in this song. “ablaze” makes me think of the sun, so maybe the night feels more “bright” than the day which is now considered dark after the incident? That’s really convoluted but it’s my thought process 🤷♀️
lyrical genius
Nice analysis :D
But
What I find quite weird and messed up is that some people made fanart of it
Like what the actual hell-
I saw that. Like what the hell?! How Insensitive can someone be. Like they aren't OCs with a traumatic background story!
real like why are you drawing that????
I just noticed- at 5:20 was that music from that old pet care game? It sounds so familiar, but also, this video is great! You did awesome explaining ❤
yayy more joe hawley analysesiesese
Good break down
Mmh, yes.
-Joe hallway, t.h.i.s episode
It’s honestly quite sad to know this little story that happened during the filming for Good Day. No one deserves to get robbed and get beaten especially when it causes trauma. Life or Death situations can be difficult to deal with it and i wouldn’t be surprise if this was a little bit hard reliving that experience just to think of the lyrics by itself.
Rotary Park wasn't safe after light..
3:58 “elephant green screen” 🗣️💯💯🗣️💯
3:27 FR can’t have shit in Detroit
honestly this makes me so sad :(
What if tally hall was called 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 hall and th-- Yeah no, I'm not finishing that sentence.
(don't go in there--)
How many times I watch this?
Times:idk
Watch:hey I can you say something?
I:56,
Fun fact, there is a rotary park in Montgomery county,Clarksville, Tennessee and it closes after dark
Plez do Bahamian Rap City! Funi "Summon'd by a call" song!
I wonder if the mental damage of this event may have influenced Joe’s current mental state. Idk does stuff work like that?
they got opps 😢
You should make a video about Aristotle's Denial
Not my boys Zubin & Joe 😢😢
dude matpat and his team have to make a youtube channel called music theory and you can run it
i think the ablaze after dark might mean something different
they got robbed in the day so their rage and emotions hate the day there, thus opting for the night but then they realize
Its the location, not the time
Tally Hall lore goes hard
there's 2 street gangs in pontiac, one of them probably was affiliated with the mugging
you are the music theory MatPat refused us
literally just finished listening to the song lmao
Rotary park is dangerous in the dark