One of the most annoying things Trisha does is say shes not upset when shes VERY CLEARLY upset and just goes on a gaslighting spree. Ugh I forgot how cringe this episode is ADAM HELP 😆
I think Trisha had a fit about the nanny because Hila and Ethan trusted the nanny with Theodore but wouldn’t trust Moses and Trisha to watch him alone. In the first episode I remember Trisha saying something about coming to their house to see Theo and Ethan said no. Over time they did come to family events, but I don’t think Hila and Ethan (or any sane parent) would allow them to babysit their kids. She also kept saying “I would only trust my kids with family”. I feel like she was trying to hint that she and Moses should be trusted over the nanny. She just wasn’t emotionally mature enough to express that she wished she had a better relationship with them to be trusted with Theo. So, she went off on some weird tangent about Hila hating her and how no one should ever have a nanny, & you should only trust your kids with family. As seen here, sometimes your kids are better off with a nanny even if family is available/willing to babysit. 😂😂
extremely emotionally immature. she handles emotional situations like a middle schooler. pretending she doesn’t care and it’s just an inconvenience when really her feelings are hurt and she just doesn’t know how to say that.
19:00 Adam you missed that Trisha said “cause I feel like she hates and she doesn’t like me” before Ethan told her not to talk about Hila. THATS why Ethan got mad. He’s explaining that we can talk about Hila (he said “we talked about her last episode”) but then Trisha went on about omg Hila hates me :(. Like Trisha you’re creating a bigger divide that Hila and Moses are trying to resolve.
That’s typically the opposite to how narcissists work. Typically someone will be having an emotional reaction and they’re the ones who are calm cause they intended for that situation to happen. Much like he intended her to have an emotional outburst then when she went too far (cause she literally has bpd) he pretended to be surprised. I’m so tired of peoples uneducated opinions. Neither party is innocent but Ethan intentionally pushed for a reaction from a mentally ill person, for views. Let’s not be stupid about it.
Manic is related to bipolar not narcissism. I think the word you’re looking for is euphoria (it’s a shorter time span of impulse and erratic behavior). Lots of love❤
This whole fight could’ve been avoided (or at least in a later podcast episode) if they just ordered the damn pizza online. Ethan could’ve made his pizza, Trisha could’ve made hers, no overwhelming feelings, just hunger for pizza.
I think Ethan had more reason than just his wife asking not to talk about her on their show. Ethan was setting boundaries because Trisha says untrue shit talking about his wife and she doesn’t like that. If Trisha wanted she could say the same “Don’t talk about my Partner and I” but then she would have nothing to talk about. Trisha has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old.
right, like Trisha was constantly crossing those boundaries and bringing up family-related issues when all he wanted was for her not to mention that. She would constantly weaponize those things when angry.
@@kayphoenixravenExactly. Its her weaponizing things and him knowing that. Like she did with the pills and other things coming left field from jealousy or whatever hair happened to be up her butt at the moment. She's dangerous when it comes to stuff like that. You have to set firm boundaries and keep ppl and information you really really value and love away from people like her or else it will be a wild venomous mess of them twisting and throwing it in your face while playing victim. I've had to cut out 2 people that did that to me real quick and learned early on to hold the things most important close to my chest. Nobody likes to have an s/o or something serious in their life tossed up like its nothing just bc somebody is having an immature moment. Its very serious. I don't even care for Ethan that much but sometimes you have to say a hard "NO" and have that NO be a complete sentence. It gets tiring having to always handle ppl like her with kiddie gloves and its not even worth it.
Tbh it seems like she was experiencing “splitting”, which happens a lot in bpd. I have bpd and when I feel hurt I’ll get very defensive and say things I don’t actually mean, like really quick snappy things that hurt other people (and hurt me to say). It’s like you’re watching yourself and you’re seeing it happen but you create cognitive dissonance in the moment and lose it, then dissociate, and come back later to reality and realize what you said 💀 watching Frenemies actually made me waaay more aware of my own toxic behaviors and helped me start doing CBT/DBT exercises in order to handle my emotions better. So, weirdly, thanks Trisha!! lmao 😂💀
It's not splitting. When anyone feels hurt they say thing they don't mean. And Trisha doesn't have bpd or if she does she has NPD and histrionic personality disorder as well. Her situation is more difficult. Peoplensay things that are mean when they feel hurt. Then we realize we screwed up and we apologized and attempt to do better. If you do that you are doing what everyone does. Don't be hard on yourself. And DBT is wonderful!!! Doing what it says really helps. Everyone can benefit from DBT and CBT. Nobody is perfect. Expect for Jesus and GOD the FATHER and THE HOLY SPIRIT. That's all.
I actually think Trisha is autistic. It's something I've been thinking for a while but haven't seen anyone mention especially since rewatching these videos.
@@paloma3009 she’s a FAS baby. Her mom drank while she was pregnant with Trisha. I personally think she’s just a spoiled brat and extremely narcissistic
I can always tell exactly when it’s happening because my tone will change and I’ll start speaking very fast with intent, like I’m trying to get out the mean words before I actually think about what I’m saying, whereas normally I overthink everything I say and usually hold my tongue. I always breakdown afterwards apologizing profusely.
In my opinion hila had a right to not want to be talked about on frenemies. There was a lot of background drama within her family and she probably didn’t want Trish to bring it up. If Moses or Trish didn’t want to be talked about she wouldn’t have been on the podcast. Idk if that makes sense or not 😂
But that wasn’t her reasoning according to Ethan, he didn’t want her to talk about Hila because she said that Trisha was annoying considering every time Hila was brought up Trisha would mention how she though she hated her. Which is really silly, if Hila thought it was annoying she should’ve came to her as an adult and told her that she didn’t feel that way, then it’s up to Trisha if she wants to believe that or not. 🤷
@@bloodycrocs I have a feeling Ethan mostly said that to not get into the family drama but I do agree with you. Ultimately a lot of this would’ve been avoided if there was just an ounce of communication
I see where everyone is coming from but at the same time Ethan and his wife brought up Moses all the time and would talk not so positively all the time. If Trisha had been smart, which she clearly isn't, she would have just told Ethan that if that's the case then that's fine but don't mention Moses anymore. I don't care if that's her brother or not he doesn't like being talked about and I don't like it either so you guys need to stop it and give me the same respect that you want.
i totally see where you're coming from abt both of them being in the wrong but i also see ethan's POV. i think he knew trisha would inevitably bring up the same topic abt hila and it was kind of a preemptive stop before she starts ranting again? idk
@@Wildf1r33 ...and we all know that's not how untreated mental illness works. She constantly admits to being off of her meds yet needing them to regulate & stabilize. It's only a matter of time IMO before Moses divorces her & files for sole custody of the the little one along with a protective order against Trisha. If someone had meltdowns & outbursts like Trisha has in the presence of my child, I would too.
I really wonder if she will change for Malibu, like i know she has calmed down but who knows how long this is gonna last, i genuinely hope for Malibu that she stays out of drama
I feel she uses her as a money prop. :/ as Adam said, she’s always at Starbucks. I saw that she hasn’t once spent any alone time with her own daughter.
C'mon, 5 month's in and she's worse than ever.... So how much leeway does she get? When Malibu turns 16 ? She'll never change because inside her head, SHE'S PERFECT in every area of her life 🤦
She’s already failed at that. I hope she does get better for the sake of her daughter but the fact that she keeps exploiting her- despite swearing she wouldn’t- shows that she is still like that
It makes me so angry when Trisha thinks that when Ethan says “do you know what it’s like to be with/raise a 1 year old?” It is not a jab at her not being able to have kids. It’s a pet peeve when childless people (I know she has a baby now but not when this video was made) tries to criticize parents on how they raise their kids. She has no idea not because she “can’t have kids” it’s because she isn’t a parent (at that time) and doesn’t understand what it is like. Either person handled the situations on this episode in the best way but Trisha basically criticizing Ethan and Hila parenting just boils my blood.
First…Your eyes change from blue to green and your shirt brings out the green! I love it… and your right on with the video, watching it again is kinda cringe but fun with you, and 2x speed lol 😂😅
Oh also Ethan loves to piss people off, stir the pot, he very quickly figures out what can make who tick.... I tried getting through his content and I couldn't. Hila was the only redeeming part
I personally still don’t reeally think Ethan is in the wrong. I think Trisha saying something about Hilla, even tho it wasn’t negative it probably reminded him to bring it up to her. And he was most likely just fed up with Trisha bringing up Hilla period. He’s just sticking up for his wife and what she wants, and I agree with him saying that’s it’s Moses and Hilla drama, not hers.
This is probably the most triggering episode cuz she acts EXACTLY how my mom acts. I’ve had so many fights where she would say something horrible and when I state the implication, she said I was gaslighting her and then completely spazz
Lowkey. I understand Trisha’s frustration at the end. Ethan wasn’t telling the story how it went, it all started with “we should/ can we have hila on the podcast” and Ethan just acted like she started talking shit right away
I felt the same way about ethans comment being argumentative. it was so dramatic and could have easily moved the convo a different direction without saying that
Trisha needs to learn how to respect boundaries. Hila put up a boundary. She didn't say that she was too good to be talked about on this show--- she put up a boundary as she was uncomfortable with it. Putting up boundaries is a good thing. And they need to be respected. Period. Trisha likes to push boundaries and to violate them. Not good.
Trisha & Ethan are both in the wrong here but to comment on Trisha immediately crying when she saw Moses. Rewatching this it seems she had her defenses up until she saw Moses b/c she didn't feel safe in the room before he got back. As soon as she saw Moses, it seems, she felt she had "a safe person" so she felt more free to let her emotions out
Trisha couldn’t think of anything else at the spur of the moment to lash out at Ethan to trigger him since she wasn’t allowed to talk about Hila anymore that’s all that was
Nannies I think can be positive for kids though. A consistent person they can bond with is a good thing. Yeah it’s great for kids to spend time with parents/family, but no-related doesn’t make it bad. I have extremely fond memories of my nanny. She was fun! I felt lucky to do stuff with her, it definitely didn’t feel like my parents were avoiding us. Crazy comment from Trisha
Hear me out... why was she on tiktok on Moses' phone? I didn't notice it back the, but her story was that she saw the messages between Moses and his sister because she was on tiktok. also didn't she recently say she's never gone on reddit because it's a cesspool or something like that meanwhile she was there saying she saw H3's declining numbers on reddit?
Honestly I still think Trish was in the wrong. If she believed hila didn’t like her and wanted to change it. She should have talked to hila about it in private. Not talk about it during the podcast. That conversation didn’t need an audience. Furthermore, Ethan set a boundary to not bring up hila. Yes, he was firm when saying it. That could make you feel some type of way. However, you respect that boundary and move on from it. Which Trish didn’t and instead flipped out. If someone doesn’t want to be talked about or brought up just leave it at that. Why do you feel the need to bring up the person so bad ?
It’s the fact that he completely twisted what happened when he was explaining it to Moses at the end. Made it seem like she was saying all this stuff before he told her not to talk about her but all she said was “we should have her on the podcast”
I think your wrong about Ethan saying not to talk about Hila because previous to this Trisha kept making digs about Mosses not liking Hila and that their not close and she was doing it in a snotty way. So unless Hila was there for defend hirself or clarify about the family it shouldn't be brought up.
Trisha was 32 years old when this was filmed at her big age girl should know basic conflict resolution I cannot with how she chooses to express herself it’s so immature god bless Moses for committing to a life with that
Trisha was so fucking out of line in this episode it blows my mind. Who cares if she is irritated about the pizza order… I cannot stand people who will literally snap and change their entire mood/the way they treat you because they’re angry. Its not an excuse.
As someone with borderline personality disorder, there's no excuse to how she reacted - but I absolutely also would have taken Ethan's don't talk about Hila reponse personally and as an attack. While I am not a confrontational person, I would have started crying and been overwhelmed and I can't help, but feel that if Trisha shut down and gotten emotional (without aggression) that Ethan would have unintentionally started to invalidate her feelings by saying she was being dramatic and that it's not that deep or pried about why she was crying. That's only my vibe because that's 100% what my brother would do and Ethan carries himself in a similar way to my brother. I think that's what made this podcast hard to watch at times (for myself) - them fighting made me so anxious to the point where I was physically uncomfortable and did not watch the last episode... because this is how my brother and I end up fighting when he says something cold, my feelings get hurt, I cry, and then he invalidates my feelings, I go on the offense, and I'm the ONLY one in the wrong and he never has to take any accountability.
It really does sound like this could've been prevented if Hila was an adult and actually sat down and talked to Trisha face to face. And told her herself that she had no issues with her. Like why go through a middle man it makes no sense to me. If you have a problem with someone tell them (Hila did have a problem with Trisha hence the fact she refused to talk to her personally)
thissss, i mean not only Hila, as Adam said Ethan didn't rly talk to Trisha outside of the podcast! obviously if there are issues between people that go unresolved they will show themselves lol communication is key or sth
Exactly, it’s annoying as fuck. don’t be angry at Trisha for repeatedly bringing up the fact that u don’t like her if your gonna be a petty bitch and talk about her to your brother or husband instead of being a woman and talking to her and letting her know you have no issue.
I actually think Trisha acts like a big baby and expects everyone to handle her with the most care, and Ethan was dramatic in the way he reacted to Hila been mentioned, but if Trisha didn't take EVERYTHING to heart they could just move on from that 🙄 I used to have so much patience for her but now I can't stand her at all !!!!!
There is a hilgiht from Ethan members podcast ("see you next thuseday") that he talked about Trisha a little bit , and he say he miss her 😔 but it's way to complicated and he can't reach out, and sad that he never met Malibu ... Despite everything, I know they care for each other 😔
what u mentioned at around 10:30 about that specific moment being bad for ethan puts into perspective how BPD works. something as small as ethan being snappy and hypocritical can and did cause a complete spiral for trisha because it was something that upset her. as someone with BPD, i 100% understand why trisha split in this moment. what happens afterwards is not right, BUT with BPD it can go 0 to 100 in a second when someone says something that pushes ur limits.
I thought the exact same thing about Ethan’s ‘don’t speak about Hila’ being out of pocket with her being nice and all, if she had said ‘I feel like Hila doesn’t like me’ again then fair enough but to make that comment when she simply said to have her on was unnecessary. Although it also was necessary because it showed a side of Trisha that is scary and really vindictive.
You know what’s insensitive? Saying you’re infertile for years and then randomly getting pregnant and never talking about it again. People struggle with infertility and it’s so painful and she drove that point home with no back up at all and then got pregnant and never advocated or anything about pregnancy while having fertility issues. She got pregnant pretty quickly after getting married.
??? Are you suggesting that she lied about having fertility issues, because she managed to have a child; or are you upset that she did so without doing a video series on the subject? She's not obliged to share any of her life, or to advocate for anyone but her child. She had fertility issues and managed to get pregnant. Shouldn't that be a cause for celebration? What is your issue here?
@@clownbag when is Trisha ever quiet or private about anything… I absolutely have an issue and think she’s lying about struggling with infertility as her explanations and excuses have all been littered with inconsistencies when talking about it. I’m obviously happy for her and her family, god bless, but let’s not sit here and act like it’s beyond her to lie about something serious. If there was a legitimate struggle with infertility she would’ve capitalized on it 1000% be so serious
31:06 MEEEEE I was taking notes on my thoughts during the video because I hate myself that much and half way through I wanted to quit I was so emotionally drained
it seems like ish always hit the fan whenever moses would leave…i think having him there kept the peace and kept trisha in line to not escalate things.
Don’t get the argument at all, the bit when she started and said she wouldn’t have a nanny when she has a kid, then says he’s being inconsiderate talking to her about kids cos she can’t have one as she’s infertile. She brought the subject of kids and childcare up, and obviously now has a child. Such a strange argument!
I love how she was going on a rampage and then gets all emotional out of nowhere. Honestly this is funny, good entertainment while taking my midterm 😂😂😂.
One last thing, if a person constantly repeats the same questions it’s going to be irritating. Trish already got her answer about if hila hates her but still brings it up. Ofc you’re going to be upset. Then for Trish to say she should do this. Hila doesn’t have to do anything. She already gave an answer. It’s just hila isn’t an ass kisser like Trisha is used to
I don’t like Ethan and don’t care one way or another for h3h3 or whatever podcast he and his wife run. He wasn’t being dramatic when stopping the chatter/convos concerning his wife and her family. He knew what was happening and the strife it was causing irl. That entire tantrum was her doing and a mess she made. It was gross and uncalled for.
I think Trisha may have felt that he was actively trying to trip her up and shit on her idea. It's quite easy to upset her train of thought and throw her off. And I ha e a feeling he knew that. And Trisha wanted to find a gap to needlebhim back with.
Trisha is splitting and when that happens everything goes from being good to everything is horrible. She feels rejected and it's very easy for people with bpd to assume everyone hates them even when they say they don't. It's like a constant state of thinking everyone is thinking the worst of you. Doesn't mean how she's reacting is ok but she is saying hurtful things because she's feeling hurt. So she is definitely saying the nanny thing to hurt them not because she honestly believes it. She will think everything is an attack. Them talking while she's in this state is completely useless lol you can't rationalize with an irrational brain. This is why she could flip flop so easily with loving and hating everyone at H3 and why she can get over it so easily.
Honestly it’s really funny watching average ppl react to a super typical bpd episode. Trish: I wouldn’t have a nanny People that have never met a mentally ill person before: DISGUSTING Lmaoooo y’all are silly gooses
they 100% should’ve ended it when the pizza arrived and they were starting to calm down. they should’ve just talked it out off camera bc this 100% didn’t need to be in the podcast.
I just think it's crazy thinking they're sister and brother in law tbh with all the internet back history before trisha ever met moses. And that Hila and Ethan have a neice named Malibu Barbie. That family reunion gonna be messy everytime poor Hila..
For someone who “doesn’t care”, she is getting awfully emotional. Instead of acting like you’re fine when you’re clearly not, be an adult and say what’s upsetting you. It’s so important to just talk to people and express your feelings. Calling Hila all those names was well out of line. And Ethan’s right - not everyone has the luxury of not working so they can spend time with their kids. Some parents have to work multiple jobs to support their families.
Maybe the opinion isn’t super popular, but I think plenty of people agree that before Trishas nanny comment- the back and forth had mistakes form both parts.
Trisha is an open book and has built her entire career on her own drama and her personal life. Hila has never been one to be open about that stuff hides a lot of her life and her children from TH-cam. You literally can’t compare the two.
Ngl Ethan was high key annoying when he was shouting over Trisha and snarking at her at the end. I would be snappy and high strung if someone acted like that to me
i’m biased because i have severe anxiety and i am kind of quick to anger but one of the many reasons i don’t like ethan is how annoying and immature he is even in the pizza ordering example???? it is one tiny part of years worth of ethan acting irritating that make up my dislike of him but at this point one instance of him ignorantly semi yelling shit like a little baby instead of acting like a person sends me into a rage. also he definitely doesn’t genuinely respect lgbtqia+ people or poc in any meaningful way but no one cares haha xoxoxoxoxo
Everyone goes through bad times in their lives. I don’t know why the comment section are acting like they haven’t done mean things. I’m not defending trisha but it’s been years now and seeing her behavior for months now since she’s been pregnant she hasn’t acted this way. She’s definitely changed and I hope the best for her because being a mean person isn’t it
I really didn't know Trisha tell a friend showed me her and loved her. Then she told me she was shady as fuck and never new why. And let me say I'm dedicated to Adam talking about them going threw the whole thing like combing it with a lice comb brush.
If Trish doesn’t want to talk about something. She needs to say that. Or just simply ignore which she has before. It’s nothing she hasn’t done before. Trish is known for saying the most outlandish things and saying private things about herself so it’s going to be hard to know where the boundaries are. Yes, they’re both in the wrong for not communicating what to talk about and what to not bring up. The video shouldn’t have kept going. Let alone uploaded in my opinion
What's so funny is she makes it seem like they're bad parents because they have a nanny but me also posedly both of her parents were in her life and look how she turned out! Maybe they should have gotten a nanny and she would have turned out better.
I agree that in that small moment, Ethan did come off as rude as fuck. He could have used a different tone, because its just the way he said it. Not the fact that he did. I get protecting his wife, but the tone he used just rubs me the wrong way. Even if that was his intention or not to sound that way
commenting at 10:56, I agree, Ethan was way too dramatic about wanting to not talk about hila BUT I think he knew it would spiral into something like the fight. He's terrible at confrontation and could have handled that differently to avoid that but he's Ethan. I do think Trisha was also already upset and flustered from being overwhelmed with the pizza call, I can totally see myself in her shoes. If I was her and I could tell that Ethan was only being obnoxious on the phone to annoy me, it would have made my blood boil. I'm super nerodivergent and talking on the phone to strangers is so stressful and if Ethan did that to me, I might have made a much bigger deal about it than Trisha. For her to hold that back I can understand why she would be so triggered by Ethan shutting her down like that when talking about Hila when Hila and Ethan didn't hesitate to talk about her and Moses prior. 2 years of perspective really makes you see things differently.
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One of the most annoying things Trisha does is say shes not upset when shes VERY CLEARLY upset and just goes on a gaslighting spree. Ugh I forgot how cringe this episode is ADAM HELP 😆
I think Trisha had a fit about the nanny because Hila and Ethan trusted the nanny with Theodore but wouldn’t trust Moses and Trisha to watch him alone. In the first episode I remember Trisha saying something about coming to their house to see Theo and Ethan said no. Over time they did come to family events, but I don’t think Hila and Ethan (or any sane parent) would allow them to babysit their kids. She also kept saying “I would only trust my kids with family”. I feel like she was trying to hint that she and Moses should be trusted over the nanny. She just wasn’t emotionally mature enough to express that she wished she had a better relationship with them to be trusted with Theo. So, she went off on some weird tangent about Hila hating her and how no one should ever have a nanny, & you should only trust your kids with family. As seen here, sometimes your kids are better off with a nanny even if family is available/willing to babysit. 😂😂
extremely emotionally immature. she handles emotional situations like a middle schooler. pretending she doesn’t care and it’s just an inconvenience when really her feelings are hurt and she just doesn’t know how to say that.
@@Wildf1r33yep, she's passive aggressive. worst kind of person really.
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Adam you missed that Trisha said “cause I feel like she hates and she doesn’t like me” before Ethan told her not to talk about Hila. THATS why Ethan got mad. He’s explaining that we can talk about Hila (he said “we talked about her last episode”) but then Trisha went on about omg Hila hates me :(. Like Trisha you’re creating a bigger divide that Hila and Moses are trying to resolve.
The more he remains calm the more aggressive she becomes. Watching a narcissist have a manic episode in real time. Yikes.
my mother acts the exact same way. she’ll create an issue out of nothing and then get angrier when i don’t react. it’s frustrating to deal with.
That’s typically the opposite to how narcissists work. Typically someone will be having an emotional reaction and they’re the ones who are calm cause they intended for that situation to happen. Much like he intended her to have an emotional outburst then when she went too far (cause she literally has bpd) he pretended to be surprised. I’m so tired of peoples uneducated opinions. Neither party is innocent but Ethan intentionally pushed for a reaction from a mentally ill person, for views. Let’s not be stupid about it.
then crying the minute her enabling partner shows up lol
Manic is related to bipolar not narcissism. I think the word you’re looking for is euphoria (it’s a shorter time span of impulse and erratic behavior). Lots of love❤
No, this is called unstable relationships, extreme emotional swings and explosive anger. Especially when triggered. Symptoms of BPD.
This whole fight could’ve been avoided (or at least in a later podcast episode) if they just ordered the damn pizza online. Ethan could’ve made his pizza, Trisha could’ve made hers, no overwhelming feelings, just hunger for pizza.
i think ab this a lot.
I think Ethan had more reason than just his wife asking not to talk about her on their show. Ethan was setting boundaries because Trisha says untrue shit talking about his wife and she doesn’t like that. If Trisha wanted she could say the same “Don’t talk about my Partner and I” but then she would have nothing to talk about. Trisha has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old.
right, like Trisha was constantly crossing those boundaries and bringing up family-related issues when all he wanted was for her not to mention that. She would constantly weaponize those things when angry.
@@kayphoenixravenExactly. Its her weaponizing things and him knowing that. Like she did with the pills and other things coming left field from jealousy or whatever hair happened to be up her butt at the moment. She's dangerous when it comes to stuff like that. You have to set firm boundaries and keep ppl and information you really really value and love away from people like her or else it will be a wild venomous mess of them twisting and throwing it in your face while playing victim. I've had to cut out 2 people that did that to me real quick and learned early on to hold the things most important close to my chest. Nobody likes to have an s/o or something serious in their life tossed up like its nothing just bc somebody is having an immature moment. Its very serious. I don't even care for Ethan that much but sometimes you have to say a hard "NO" and have that NO be a complete sentence. It gets tiring having to always handle ppl like her with kiddie gloves and its not even worth it.
Tbh it seems like she was experiencing “splitting”, which happens a lot in bpd. I have bpd and when I feel hurt I’ll get very defensive and say things I don’t actually mean, like really quick snappy things that hurt other people (and hurt me to say). It’s like you’re watching yourself and you’re seeing it happen but you create cognitive dissonance in the moment and lose it, then dissociate, and come back later to reality and realize what you said 💀 watching Frenemies actually made me waaay more aware of my own toxic behaviors and helped me start doing CBT/DBT exercises in order to handle my emotions better. So, weirdly, thanks Trisha!! lmao 😂💀
It's not splitting. When anyone feels hurt they say thing they don't mean. And Trisha doesn't have bpd or if she does she has NPD and histrionic personality disorder as well. Her situation is more difficult. Peoplensay things that are mean when they feel hurt. Then we realize we screwed up and we apologized and attempt to do better. If you do that you are doing what everyone does. Don't be hard on yourself. And DBT is wonderful!!! Doing what it says really helps. Everyone can benefit from DBT and CBT. Nobody is perfect. Expect for Jesus and GOD the FATHER and THE HOLY SPIRIT. That's all.
Trisha’s just a spoiled brat who doesn’t like hearing no. That’s why she’s always around yes people. She blows up
I actually think Trisha is autistic. It's something I've been thinking for a while but haven't seen anyone mention especially since rewatching these videos.
@@paloma3009 she’s a FAS baby. Her mom drank while she was pregnant with Trisha. I personally think she’s just a spoiled brat and extremely narcissistic
I can always tell exactly when it’s happening because my tone will change and I’ll start speaking very fast with intent, like I’m trying to get out the mean words before I actually think about what I’m saying, whereas normally I overthink everything I say and usually hold my tongue. I always breakdown afterwards apologizing profusely.
In my opinion hila had a right to not want to be talked about on frenemies. There was a lot of background drama within her family and she probably didn’t want Trish to bring it up. If Moses or Trish didn’t want to be talked about she wouldn’t have been on the podcast. Idk if that makes sense or not 😂
But that wasn’t her reasoning according to Ethan, he didn’t want her to talk about Hila because she said that Trisha was annoying considering every time Hila was brought up Trisha would mention how she though she hated her. Which is really silly, if Hila thought it was annoying she should’ve came to her as an adult and told her that she didn’t feel that way, then it’s up to Trisha if she wants to believe that or not. 🤷
@@bloodycrocs I have a feeling Ethan mostly said that to not get into the family drama but I do agree with you. Ultimately a lot of this would’ve been avoided if there was just an ounce of communication
I see where everyone is coming from but at the same time Ethan and his wife brought up Moses all the time and would talk not so positively all the time. If Trisha had been smart, which she clearly isn't, she would have just told Ethan that if that's the case then that's fine but don't mention Moses anymore. I don't care if that's her brother or not he doesn't like being talked about and I don't like it either so you guys need to stop it and give me the same respect that you want.
i totally see where you're coming from abt both of them being in the wrong but i also see ethan's POV. i think he knew trisha would inevitably bring up the same topic abt hila and it was kind of a preemptive stop before she starts ranting again? idk
Imagine a child(ren) growing up around Trisha's instability. It's profoundly disturbing to fathom.
Agreed
100% agree!! Deeply concerning
it’s very concerning. everyone thinks having a baby magically changed her
@@Wildf1r33 ...and we all know that's not how untreated mental illness works. She constantly admits to being off of her meds yet needing them to regulate & stabilize. It's only a matter of time IMO before Moses divorces her & files for sole custody of the the little one along with a protective order against Trisha. If someone had meltdowns & outbursts like Trisha has in the presence of my child, I would too.
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Some dont deserve the right to kids in the first place tbh
I really wonder if she will change for Malibu, like i know she has calmed down but who knows how long this is gonna last, i genuinely hope for Malibu that she stays out of drama
Yeah I feel the same way. I really hope she permanently changes for the better now that she's a mother. 💜🙏
I feel she uses her as a money prop. :/ as Adam said, she’s always at Starbucks. I saw that she hasn’t once spent any alone time with her own daughter.
C'mon, 5 month's in and she's worse than ever.... So how much leeway does she get?
When Malibu turns 16 ?
She'll never change because inside her head, SHE'S PERFECT in every area of her life 🤦
She won’t
She’s already failed at that. I hope she does get better for the sake of her daughter but the fact that she keeps exploiting her- despite swearing she wouldn’t- shows that she is still like that
It makes me so angry when Trisha thinks that when Ethan says “do you know what it’s like to be with/raise a 1 year old?” It is not a jab at her not being able to have kids. It’s a pet peeve when childless people (I know she has a baby now but not when this video was made) tries to criticize parents on how they raise their kids. She has no idea not because she “can’t have kids” it’s because she isn’t a parent (at that time) and doesn’t understand what it is like. Either person handled the situations on this episode in the best way but Trisha basically criticizing Ethan and Hila parenting just boils my blood.
Can someone make a compilation of all the hypocritical crap Trisha has said? Like a side by side?
That would be a SUPER long video. 🤣
I’m pretty sure a tiktok channel does this
First…Your eyes change from blue to green and your shirt brings out the green! I love it… and your right on with the video, watching it again is kinda cringe but fun with you, and 2x speed lol 😂😅
She said people think Hila hate her before Ethan said dont talk about her.
Lmfao the stressing of "THIS SPECIFIC MOMENT" *slaps desk*
Oh also Ethan loves to piss people off, stir the pot, he very quickly figures out what can make who tick.... I tried getting through his content and I couldn't. Hila was the only redeeming part
Or his guest episodes but
i will disagree i love watching them talk abt non drama things, i just loved their personalities together
Yeah I actually really enjoyed the non drama in this episode…
I still don't see Trisha's side. Ethan was setting a boundary and Trisha loses it because she doesn't like that boundary. 🤷♀️
I personally still don’t reeally think Ethan is in the wrong. I think Trisha saying something about Hilla, even tho it wasn’t negative it probably reminded him to bring it up to her. And he was most likely just fed up with Trisha bringing up Hilla period. He’s just sticking up for his wife and what she wants, and I agree with him saying that’s it’s Moses and Hilla drama, not hers.
This is probably the most triggering episode cuz she acts EXACTLY how my mom acts. I’ve had so many fights where she would say something horrible and when I state the implication, she said I was gaslighting her and then completely spazz
Lowkey. I understand Trisha’s frustration at the end. Ethan wasn’t telling the story how it went, it all started with “we should/ can we have hila on the podcast” and Ethan just acted like she started talking shit right away
I felt the same way about ethans comment being argumentative. it was so dramatic and could have easily moved the convo a different direction without saying that
Trisha needs to learn how to respect boundaries. Hila put up a boundary. She didn't say that she was too good to be talked about on this show--- she put up a boundary as she was uncomfortable with it. Putting up boundaries is a good thing. And they need to be respected. Period. Trisha likes to push boundaries and to violate them. Not good.
Trisha & Ethan are both in the wrong here but to comment on Trisha immediately crying when she saw Moses. Rewatching this it seems she had her defenses up until she saw Moses b/c she didn't feel safe in the room before he got back. As soon as she saw Moses, it seems, she felt she had "a safe person" so she felt more free to let her emotions out
Same exact thing I thought
Trisha couldn’t think of anything else at the spur of the moment to lash out at Ethan to trigger him since she wasn’t allowed to talk about Hila anymore that’s all that was
in the H3 discord we've used that Community gif of returning w pizza... SO MANY TIMES LOL
Nannies I think can be positive for kids though. A consistent person they can bond with is a good thing. Yeah it’s great for kids to spend time with parents/family, but no-related doesn’t make it bad. I have extremely fond memories of my nanny. She was fun! I felt lucky to do stuff with her, it definitely didn’t feel like my parents were avoiding us. Crazy comment from Trisha
Hear me out... why was she on tiktok on Moses' phone? I didn't notice it back the, but her story was that she saw the messages between Moses and his sister because she was on tiktok. also didn't she recently say she's never gone on reddit because it's a cesspool or something like that meanwhile she was there saying she saw H3's declining numbers on reddit?
Honestly I still think Trish was in the wrong. If she believed hila didn’t like her and wanted to change it. She should have talked to hila about it in private. Not talk about it during the podcast. That conversation didn’t need an audience. Furthermore, Ethan set a boundary to not bring up hila. Yes, he was firm when saying it. That could make you feel some type of way. However, you respect that boundary and move on from it. Which Trish didn’t and instead flipped out. If someone doesn’t want to be talked about or brought up just leave it at that. Why do you feel the need to bring up the person so bad ?
It’s the fact that he completely twisted what happened when he was explaining it to Moses at the end. Made it seem like she was saying all this stuff before he told her not to talk about her but all she said was “we should have her on the podcast”
I’m so glad u picked this back up currently my favorite thing to watch on TH-cam
i’m so happy this series is back i love it so much!!!❤❤❤
lol, me to husband "did you know the youths are watching vids at 2x speed? kids these days, so smart!" thank you for leveling up my adhd
I think your wrong about Ethan saying not to talk about Hila because previous to this Trisha kept making digs about Mosses not liking Hila and that their not close and she was doing it in a snotty way. So unless Hila was there for defend hirself or clarify about the family it shouldn't be brought up.
Trisha was 32 years old when this was filmed at her big age girl should know basic conflict resolution I cannot with how she chooses to express herself it’s so immature god bless Moses for committing to a life with that
Trisha was so fucking out of line in this episode it blows my mind. Who cares if she is irritated about the pizza order… I cannot stand people who will literally snap and change their entire mood/the way they treat you because they’re angry. Its not an excuse.
As someone with borderline personality disorder, there's no excuse to how she reacted - but I absolutely also would have taken Ethan's don't talk about Hila reponse personally and as an attack. While I am not a confrontational person, I would have started crying and been overwhelmed and I can't help, but feel that if Trisha shut down and gotten emotional (without aggression) that Ethan would have unintentionally started to invalidate her feelings by saying she was being dramatic and that it's not that deep or pried about why she was crying.
That's only my vibe because that's 100% what my brother would do and Ethan carries himself in a similar way to my brother. I think that's what made this podcast hard to watch at times (for myself) - them fighting made me so anxious to the point where I was physically uncomfortable and did not watch the last episode... because this is how my brother and I end up fighting when he says something cold, my feelings get hurt, I cry, and then he invalidates my feelings, I go on the offense, and I'm the ONLY one in the wrong and he never has to take any accountability.
It really does sound like this could've been prevented if Hila was an adult and actually sat down and talked to Trisha face to face. And told her herself that she had no issues with her. Like why go through a middle man it makes no sense to me. If you have a problem with someone tell them (Hila did have a problem with Trisha hence the fact she refused to talk to her personally)
thissss, i mean not only Hila, as Adam said Ethan didn't rly talk to Trisha outside of the podcast! obviously if there are issues between people that go unresolved they will show themselves lol communication is key or sth
Exactly, it’s annoying as fuck. don’t be angry at Trisha for repeatedly bringing up the fact that u don’t like her if your gonna be a petty bitch and talk about her to your brother or husband instead of being a woman and talking to her and letting her know you have no issue.
This video is the perfect example of why I cannot stand Trisha. ✌️
Ethan started the issue 😊
I actually think Trisha acts like a big baby and expects everyone to handle her with the most care, and Ethan was dramatic in the way he reacted to Hila been mentioned, but if Trisha didn't take EVERYTHING to heart they could just move on from that 🙄 I used to have so much patience for her but now I can't stand her at all !!!!!
There is a hilgiht from Ethan members podcast ("see you next thuseday") that he talked about Trisha a little bit , and he say he miss her 😔 but it's way to complicated and he can't reach out, and sad that he never met Malibu ... Despite everything, I know they care for each other 😔
I think Trisha's attitude is hideous in the Frenemies video.
what u mentioned at around 10:30 about that specific moment being bad for ethan puts into perspective how BPD works. something as small as ethan being snappy and hypocritical can and did cause a complete spiral for trisha because it was something that upset her. as someone with BPD, i 100% understand why trisha split in this moment. what happens afterwards is not right, BUT with BPD it can go 0 to 100 in a second when someone says something that pushes ur limits.
I thought the exact same thing about Ethan’s ‘don’t speak about Hila’ being out of pocket with her being nice and all, if she had said ‘I feel like Hila doesn’t like me’ again then fair enough but to make that comment when she simply said to have her on was unnecessary. Although it also was necessary because it showed a side of Trisha that is scary and really vindictive.
You know what’s insensitive? Saying you’re infertile for years and then randomly getting pregnant and never talking about it again. People struggle with infertility and it’s so painful and she drove that point home with no back up at all and then got pregnant and never advocated or anything about pregnancy while having fertility issues. She got pregnant pretty quickly after getting married.
??? Are you suggesting that she lied about having fertility issues, because she managed to have a child; or are you upset that she did so without doing a video series on the subject? She's not obliged to share any of her life, or to advocate for anyone but her child. She had fertility issues and managed to get pregnant. Shouldn't that be a cause for celebration? What is your issue here?
@@clownbag when is Trisha ever quiet or private about anything… I absolutely have an issue and think she’s lying about struggling with infertility as her explanations and excuses have all been littered with inconsistencies when talking about it. I’m obviously happy for her and her family, god bless, but let’s not sit here and act like it’s beyond her to lie about something serious. If there was a legitimate struggle with infertility she would’ve capitalized on it 1000% be so serious
She (bpd)split on Ethan, you could tell it was bound to happen, she had that hostile energy to begin with.
31:06 MEEEEE I was taking notes on my thoughts during the video because I hate myself that much and half way through I wanted to quit I was so emotionally drained
I agree I always felt she was in love with him. Some of the things she would say and the way she would act towards him always gave me that vibe
pls more AMAs from Reddit!!
it seems like ish always hit the fan whenever moses would leave…i think having him there kept the peace and kept trisha in line to not escalate things.
I found you through GEM she does an amazing recap from frenemies I can’t get enough and now I found your recap of frenemies I’m excited
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who watches things on 2x speed! Currently watching this on 2x speed as well lmao! Feel better soon Adam!
Omg I’m so early!! I’m loving this frenemies series so much, knowing what we know now haha
Wooooah I didn’t realize before what you pointed out. She did get more emotional and intense once Moses entered the room!
Oh bestie I’m stoked for this one.
Don’t get the argument at all, the bit when she started and said she wouldn’t have a nanny when she has a kid, then says he’s being inconsiderate talking to her about kids cos she can’t have one as she’s infertile. She brought the subject of kids and childcare up, and obviously now has a child. Such a strange argument!
Hope you are feeling better adam 💗💗 just finished watching your other videos🫶🏼
THIS IS LIKE WATCHING A CARCRASH LMAO
I love how she was going on a rampage and then gets all emotional out of nowhere. Honestly this is funny, good entertainment while taking my midterm 😂😂😂.
the nanny comment always confused tf outta me cuz hasnt trisha said that her mom used to leave her w random men who abused her? like okaaaay sis
One last thing, if a person constantly repeats the same questions it’s going to be irritating. Trish already got her answer about if hila hates her but still brings it up. Ofc you’re going to be upset. Then for Trish to say she should do this. Hila doesn’t have to do anything. She already gave an answer. It’s just hila isn’t an ass kisser like Trisha is used to
The few seconds leading up to Trisha calling Hila the c word she said it was basically like a blackout
I always love the dramatic irony when trisha says to order the pizza it’s like they scripted it
I so appreciate how you call Ethan out for his shit as well
I don’t like Ethan and don’t care one way or another for h3h3 or whatever podcast he and his wife run. He wasn’t being dramatic when stopping the chatter/convos concerning his wife and her family. He knew what was happening and the strife it was causing irl. That entire tantrum was her doing and a mess she made. It was gross and uncalled for.
If she was lucky enough to have a kid she'd spend every moment with IT.....🥴🥴 Riiiiiiiighttt sure Jan 😬😬
I think Trisha may have felt that he was actively trying to trip her up and shit on her idea. It's quite easy to upset her train of thought and throw her off. And I ha e a feeling he knew that. And Trisha wanted to find a gap to needlebhim back with.
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Trisha is splitting and when that happens everything goes from being good to everything is horrible. She feels rejected and it's very easy for people with bpd to assume everyone hates them even when they say they don't. It's like a constant state of thinking everyone is thinking the worst of you.
Doesn't mean how she's reacting is ok but she is saying hurtful things because she's feeling hurt. So she is definitely saying the nanny thing to hurt them not because she honestly believes it. She will think everything is an attack. Them talking while she's in this state is completely useless lol you can't rationalize with an irrational brain.
This is why she could flip flop so easily with loving and hating everyone at H3 and why she can get over it so easily.
In my opinion Trisha had no right saying anything about parenting when she wasn't a parent at the time.
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Wasn't it every time they have pizza it's always a fight that happens lol
Honestly it’s really funny watching average ppl react to a super typical bpd episode. Trish: I wouldn’t have a nanny
People that have never met a mentally ill person before: DISGUSTING
Lmaoooo y’all are silly gooses
I think most of Trisha outburst is bc of her bpd and get triggered when something makes her emotional
they 100% should’ve ended it when the pizza arrived and they were starting to calm down. they should’ve just talked it out off camera bc this 100% didn’t need to be in the podcast.
how has this aged so poorly, after being so bad to begin with?? dammit trish
People without kids are always the best parents 😂
I just think it's crazy thinking they're sister and brother in law tbh with all the internet back history before trisha ever met moses. And that Hila and Ethan have a neice named Malibu Barbie. That family reunion gonna be messy everytime poor Hila..
Adam, that shirt brings out the color of your eyes beautifully. Love that color for you ❤
Ahh. What a good day to elevate my cortisol levels. Thanks Trish 😊
That’s unmanaged BPD in play tbh just a lot of her mannerisms i don’t condone it but imo that’s a lot
Of what’s going on here
For someone who “doesn’t care”, she is getting awfully emotional. Instead of acting like you’re fine when you’re clearly not, be an adult and say what’s upsetting you. It’s so important to just talk to people and express your feelings. Calling Hila all those names was well out of line. And Ethan’s right - not everyone has the luxury of not working so they can spend time with their kids. Some parents have to work multiple jobs to support their families.
Maybe the opinion isn’t super popular, but I think plenty of people agree that before Trishas nanny comment- the back and forth had mistakes form both parts.
Trisha is an open book and has built her entire career on her own drama and her personal life. Hila has never been one to be open about that stuff hides a lot of her life and her children from TH-cam. You literally can’t compare the two.
Perfect episode.
Ngl Ethan was high key annoying when he was shouting over Trisha and snarking at her at the end. I would be snappy and high strung if someone acted like that to me
i’m biased because i have severe anxiety and i am kind of quick to anger but one of the many reasons i don’t like ethan is how annoying and immature he is even in the pizza ordering example???? it is one tiny part of years worth of ethan acting irritating that make up my dislike of him but at this point one instance of him ignorantly semi yelling shit like a little baby instead of acting like a person sends me into a rage. also he definitely doesn’t genuinely respect lgbtqia+ people or poc in any meaningful way but no one cares haha xoxoxoxoxo
Everyone goes through bad times in their lives. I don’t know why the comment section are acting like they haven’t done mean things. I’m not defending trisha but it’s been years now and seeing her behavior for months now since she’s been pregnant she hasn’t acted this way. She’s definitely changed and I hope the best for her because being a mean person isn’t it
Man Trisha really is becoming irrelevant; had I not look to see what Trisha was up to lately I wouldn't have known lol
9:45 I totally agree its like literally
I really didn't know Trisha tell a friend showed me her and loved her. Then she told me she was shady as fuck and never new why. And let me say I'm dedicated to Adam talking about them going threw the whole thing like combing it with a lice comb brush.
If Trish doesn’t want to talk about something. She needs to say that. Or just simply ignore which she has before. It’s nothing she hasn’t done before. Trish is known for saying the most outlandish things and saying private things about herself so it’s going to be hard to know where the boundaries are. Yes, they’re both in the wrong for not communicating what to talk about and what to not bring up. The video shouldn’t have kept going. Let alone uploaded in my opinion
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I agree with you Adam!
I’m deeply concerned… What happened to Garfield???
What's so funny is she makes it seem like they're bad parents because they have a nanny but me also posedly both of her parents were in her life and look how she turned out! Maybe they should have gotten a nanny and she would have turned out better.
I agree that in that small moment, Ethan did come off as rude as fuck. He could have used a different tone, because its just the way he said it. Not the fact that he did. I get protecting his wife, but the tone he used just rubs me the wrong way.
Even if that was his intention or not to sound that way
commenting at 10:56, I agree, Ethan was way too dramatic about wanting to not talk about hila BUT I think he knew it would spiral into something like the fight. He's terrible at confrontation and could have handled that differently to avoid that but he's Ethan. I do think Trisha was also already upset and flustered from being overwhelmed with the pizza call, I can totally see myself in her shoes. If I was her and I could tell that Ethan was only being obnoxious on the phone to annoy me, it would have made my blood boil. I'm super nerodivergent and talking on the phone to strangers is so stressful and if Ethan did that to me, I might have made a much bigger deal about it than Trisha. For her to hold that back I can understand why she would be so triggered by Ethan shutting her down like that when talking about Hila when Hila and Ethan didn't hesitate to talk about her and Moses prior.
2 years of perspective really makes you see things differently.