Alex Pereira just knocked out Jiri Prochazka at UFC 303. Today, I discuss why he destroys Daniel Cormier in an MMA fight. Follow me on instagram: / cheb For Business Inquires ytmmache@gmail.com
DC would dunk Periera on his head. With the threat of the takedown Periera won't tee off like he did against Izzy, Jiri, and Hill. DC's beaten stronger guys with better takedown defense
DC also hasn’t faced someone with a mix of elite striking and power like Pereria. Pereria was still throwing a lot against Blachowicz even tho he knew Blachowicz would shoot take downs.
The big problem for DC like you said is that he couldnt keep up the wrestling round after round from starting MMA later in life. eventually this fight will be on the feet and DC just marching at him would be a terrible idea
@@cameronharper4554 Derrick Lewis fights at 265 claims he cuts ONLY 25 pounds in three days that’s 290 he claims that brother is not an ounce under 300 walking in the cage you can’t compare 300 pounds vs 205
Anderson Silva was 100% way better on the ground than Alex at least by that point in his career. Although I do agree with your general point DC ain’t Charles Oliveira lol; still definitely good enough to get Alex down and keep him there if he doesn’t eat a left hook coming in though.
But he also beat all the top Light Heavyweights in the division except for one who happened to be Jon Jones. He beat one of the best Heavyweights in the UFC too.
DC did super well for someone who started doing MMA and striking so late and for such a short guy for that division and he was old in most of his later title fights but like GSP said, most current high level fighters would beat pretty much all previous generation elites
I know Alex isnt really proven on the ground, but cmon, the year is 2024 and people still think being a wrestler is an instant win against an striker. Alex jabbing up DC to the body then catching him with a left hook is completely possible scenario
Ik even the worst wrestlers at the top of each division won’t get wragdolled by the best wrestlers because take down defense is much more trained and common in todays mma landscape especially with strikers. Everyone still thinks this is 2014 where wrestlers can just take people down and win at will. Not only has take down defense improved but overall skill and striking has too. We have wayyyy more well rounded fighters and elite strikers in today’s ufc.
Anderson Silva did better against DC on 2 days' notice than anyone gives him credit for. He almost TKO'd DC in the end of the 3rd round. I'd be interested in prime Anderson Silva vs. Alex Pereira. But DC either holds Alex down for 5 rounds or gets knocked out. He can't contest on the feet
@@ekayn1606 That’s fair honestly. But Izzy weighed in at 200 on the dot but but he walks at about 215. He’s 6’2 1/2 at the most and Spider seemed to be a little thicker in frame imo.
@@7reasons617 haha Izzy is 6'3"... Anyone with a working pair of eyes knows that... We have also seen him in that face off with Anderson Silva, he's clearly at least an inch taller than Silva who's 6'2"...
DC is ass at grappling, just a big fatty, and Alex has decent takedown defence, his coach made him train on it after he couldn't escape michailidis for the entire first round
This is just patently false. DC would thrash Alex in like 8/10 scenarios, Alex might get a few KOs but he'd have to risk opening himself up to takedowns. I agree that Rumble isn't a good comparison to Alex, but obviously the comparison is meant to demonstrate the level of dominance DC would display. Alex would kill him on the feet, yes. He is amazing at picking people from range. The calf kicks add up. All true. But are we really going to act like Pereira would survive a single round on the ground? "Super safe, defensive and rides out the round" means NOTHING against DC. He is miles, miles, miles above the combined grappling skills of Jiri, Jan, and Izzy combined. Once DC grabs ahold of Alex, I really only see 2 possibilities: 1) Mat return after mat return -> TKO or sub 2) "stays defensively sound" and then gets outgrappled and subbed or TKOed from GnP. Let's be real, Alex is underrated on the ground but he is not good enough to survive DC's onslaught. Any example provided is irrelevant because there isn't a single fighter in LHW currently with DC's grappling prowess. He has to avoid getting taken down at all costs to have a chance , which he would fail at imo. There's no reason DC would struggle subbing or TKOing a guy like Alex, the skill gap is too big.
what subs from DC lol? His only sub was against Dan hendo, Johnson, and lewis. Couldnt even sub roy nelson or josh barnett.... oh and all his subs came from RNC. So now if ur thinking he will TKO then maybe? But Silva survived 3 rounds short notice. An younger silva that got dominated by chael in similar fashion. So you think Dc was nice? Or are you just overhyping his ability to finish on the ground
I'm usually not one to say this but the Poatan glaze is getting insane. He's NEVER had to face an aggressive wrestler/submission specialist like DC or Jon Jones. I'm a big fan of the guy but people act like he hasn't had favorable match ups his entire UFC career.
I'm honestly in full agreement. Ya i'd be able to take Alex down easily rnd 1 but if he stays on his back and frames well, I wont be able to do much, my only chance would be if he gives up his back which I don't think he'd be dumb enough to do, he'd most likely do exactly what he did in the first Jiri fight and just stay safe, then as the fight goes on its gonna be harder and harder to take him down. It's true I rarely look for takedowns in the latter half of the fight and I have no idea how i'd close the distance with his power and striking ability, I depend on guys like Rumble to throw recklessly. Gustafsson fucked me up bad I was lucky to keep my belt in that fight. I'm utterly terrified of this matchup
@Nykandros taking someone's back is a skill from bjj not wrestling, Jan has more rear naked choke finishes in his career than DC does and couldn't finish Alex.
@@bloon170 That doesn't matter, bc DC would just dominate & force him into the position through overwhelming wrestling. Alex isn't skilled enough for DC to actually need to learn BJJ to get him on his back lol
@@Nykandros thats different tho alex is evolving if alex is taken down hes just going to hold on to dc like we have seen alex quicky evolving compare his wrestling skill to the izzy fight then to the jiri fight two very different fighters the real question is will alex be able to ko dc at the start of the very round also alex is very quickly evolving in the bjj and wrestling pretty unfair to compare his fight 2 years ago at the start of his ufc career
That’s why dc is the goat. Bros the size of welterweights but dominated vs giants. Only ever losing to the hw goat stipe. And the lhw cheat coke jones.
He didnt compare Jan and Jiri to DC. He was looking at how Pereira reacted in certain positions and what he does on the ground, which is just stay completely safe and wait to reset on the feet
@nitrox1613 "Ragdoll" as in stay on top in full guard and barely do any damage? Jan did get the body triangle from Alex turteling, but how does DC finish Alex on the ground if he just stays off his back and waits for the fight to get reset on the feet?
*Good points however my friend Dcs improved striking mixed with the Takedowns as well as how good his chin was would result in a Decision win for Dc, Dcs fight vs Volkan oezdimier is the best example minus how volkan got pinned to the matt also all the Stipe fights is the same Dc improved enough to beat alex and ill stick to that as the same wouldve happened with Francis ngannou*
I think this debate will be more interesting once Pererira faces someone more grappling heavy like Ankelaev. Even he is more of a striker and no where close to dc in terms of wrestling but after that fight we can see how good Pereira's takedown defense will be
I didn't notice Charles until the 11:20 mark when he's directly behind u, this plays into my head cannon that he's alive when you go to sleep and prints off another picture of himself to hang up
This type of controversial takes and breakdowns reminds me of Mexican Martial Arts. Very controversial but you give a very strong reasoning and deduction for the way you come to that conclusion.
Your hate on wrestling probably says more about your own style of jiu-jitsu than about MMA. Your last video on how wrestling is dying made me lose faith in your analyses.
you made good points about Alex's stand up being a huge issue for Daniel but the comparison of grappling between a DC and Jiri is gonna be day and night by a mile. Dc has alot more options for holding Alex P down and opening him for clean shots during g n p sequences. Also Gustafosson does throw alot of volume but hes definitely got high level accuracy but I would say Alex P is still more accurate
Lucky to beat pereira once? lol If dc gets a takedown do you think Alex will do better at getting back up than any heavyweight DC crushed? FYI rumble has better TD defence and grappling than Alex.
Lucky to win once? 😂bro Alex has great takedowns against the fence but we don’t have any proof that he can defend takedowns in open space against a short wrestler and we never will.
One of the only fighters who punches anywhere near decent. It’s no surprise he’s annihilating the competition. Exposing all the “elite striking” in UFC for the joke it is.
Do you even saw a video? DC didnt have a cardio to wrestle for 5 rounds and Pereira is hard to submit once DC will be forced to stand - Alex gonna put him away
Adesanya failed all his takedowns against Alex. He did land on top when Alex failed a trip (which I believe he won't try against DC). Alex also took Izzy down with a double leg.
So are we gonna pretend like Alex Pereira wouldn’t be slowed down from wrestling with dc, we gone pretend like dc taking him down and wearing on him forcing him to try and get back up that wouldn’t zap his gas tank at all? We just gone act like we haven’t seen Alex lose some steam on his punches after grappling the Jan fight his shots had less steam after the grappling for the ppl that are gonna say it was at elevation the izzy fight his shots had less steam round 4 after grappling the previous round like I understand that dc is gonna have to stand with him but we just gone pretend like Alex’s standup isn’t gonna be hindered by the threat of the takedown plus dc’s ability to wear on u and overwhelm u???? Edit: for the dc not going for late takedowns are we also gonna pretend like Dc didn’t choose to wrestle less against Stipe and Gus because the effort it took him to get them down and control wasn’t worth the reward is Alex Pereira as good at defending takedowns as Gus and stipe???? Does he do a great job of getting off his back??? The answer is hell no he literally gets controlled turtled in his early fights or nowadays stays on his back yetis to get wrist control or frame off and he doesn’t try to get up until he thinks there’s an opening I’m very confident the effort against him isn’t gonna be as taxing as it was against two of the best defensive wrestlers in the heavier weight class like cmon bruh Edit #2: which dc we talking bout because heavyweight 40 year old dc is obviously gonna have a worse wrestling gas tank unless your a Derrick Lewis but mid to somewhat early 30’s dc was still capable of wrestling in volume it just depends on the fighter against Gus he had a hard time with the distance and couldn’t even get in on Gus his last few attempts so he stopped because his wasn’t making any progress u think Pereira has elusive hips like Gus? We kno that’s a big fat no, also Dc had the gas tank to wrestle late with Jon jones I kno pride was a big factor in that and a lot of there fight was on the feet in the clinch but he still was able to try and wrestle late snd these are some of the best defensive wrestlers in upper weight class history bruh this nigga Pereira isn’t like that man he not
I disagree that Alex would even try to get back up rnds 1 and 2 if he gets taken down, and you can't deny DC wouldn't wrestle past round 3. He's gonna have to stand with Pereira at some point
@@cameronharper4554 I never said pereira would try to do it in rounds 1/2 I said in the rest of the comment Pereira looks for an opening to try and get up which could very well happen in the first, two round but I can absolutely argue that dc would wrestle past the first 3 rounds, name a fighter that doesn’t have elite tdd that dc stopped trying to takedown after two rounds cause last time I checked Pereira isn’t Stipe, Jones and Gus
Bro DC didn’t even finish Derrick Lewis in the first stop it. And Silva was in his 40s and also got taken down a whole lot and DC didn’t finish him either
@@JbBlastdouble I mean i could say the same about Silva all of the guys he fought with wrestling took him down and had moments where they were beating him up on the ground. Yeah he had submissions but Alex doesn’t really need submissions he just needs to survive. And the point is it’s hard to close to attempt without putting yourself in danger with someone that powerful and skilled
Nah bro mma math Rumble>Gus>Jan>izzy that one time>alex. Rumble beats Alex 50% of the time and DC beats rumble 100% of the time so DC beats Alex mma math bro you Casual
I disagree with this assessment when you say that DC wins 0 out of 10 times. DC is absolutely a bad matchup for Alex, not to say Pereira couldn’t tear his legs up and catch him coming in quite a few times, he most certainly could. But DC was never the type to just lunge for takedowns with reckless abandon, he would always find a way to clinch up the bigger, taller fighters and then once he was safe in the clinch he’d shoot for his takedowns. Not only that, sure DC wasn’t a submission ace on the ground, but he most definitely would ground and pound the shit out of Alex Pereira. I’m way more of an Alex fan than I ever was of DC and I’m telling you, your recency bias is blinding you to the reality of this matchup. Alex could have KO’d DC quite a few times in these hypothetical fights, but more often than not he faces a wrestler unlike anyone he’s seen before and gets dunked on his head and beat up on the bottom.
Pereria is even better in the clinch than DC and DC’s striking defense, specifically his boxing defense, is pretty bad. DC leaves his chin up and extends his arms out which is what Strickland did before Pereria sent him into a nap. Pereria has trained clinching for years in kickboxing and has lethal knees.
DC whiles the floor with Pereira. Period. End of story. And if DC wanted to beat Silva worse and finish him, he would have. He was going easy on him out of respect.
The Jesus christ of the UFC? I believe so. He has now saved three events on short notice. He is the new face of the UFC (screw McGregor for pulling out over a bruised pinky toe). He is everything we thought Khamzat would be. He has a super exciting and entertaining style. Hopefully he doesnt end up dying for our sins (fighting and losing at heavy weight).
Come on man, you know that the reason DC’s choke worked against Rumble when Jan’s didn’t against Alex is because it wasn’t as good, he’s in a different position with his weight leaning forward on rumble, and rumble doesn’t have an easy opportunity to use his right hand to pull down DC‘s right hand since he’s bearing weight on it. DC is leaning to the right for a reason.
Pereira would become the biggest ragdoll in the history of the division if he went up against DC. Your anti-wrestling coping becomes more obvious by the day lol
@@DCdanielcormier It is, because Alex has next to no actual skills that can nullify such high-pressure, brute wrestling. If he's getting his back taken by people like Izzy & Jan then yes, DC ragdolls him lol. This isn't even something that needs deep analysis tbh
@@Nykandros He has next to no skills to nullify high pressure? You genuinely said that with a straight face? How about the fact he has insane ko power and accuracy. Again, my problem was always that I couldn't keep up the high pace wrestling past the 3rd round. It happened in all my fights, and if Alex doesn't give up his back, how can I finish him? My strength was never submissions or guard passes. It took me 2 rounds to finish Derrick Lewis, who legitimately never wrestled before
@@DCdanielcormier KO Power doesn't matter because the fight is going to the ground immediately. Don't bet the farm on puncher's chance lmao. The opponents DC faced that were in the same tier as Alex regarding a lack of grappling (Anthony Johnson, Derrick Lewis & Dan Henderson) all lost by submission. Derrick also has no neck, so I expect it to be a struggle for anyone to get him out of there. The only people that were able to force DC into a stand up fight are those with prior grappling experience (besides Volkan, but even he has some BJJ history) like Jones, Silva etc. Like I said, Alex simply isn't good enough for this to be a fight dependent on technical skill; he will quite literally be eaten alive by DC"s wrestling lol. It is that simple.
on the ground, I feel like DC would be able to finish Alex and wouldn't need to keep up a good pace of takedowns for 5 round to win a decision. On the ground Alex's skills right now are not as good as Gustaffson in his fight with DC, so DC may only need 1 takedown maybe 2. and can find a submission or have more success with ground and pound than against Gustafson.
Daniel has dealt with power, hes dealt with long rangy strikers only guys that gave him problems was alex Gustafson,stipe, and jon Jones all had either had a wrestling background or has great take down defense,jan and jiri are no where near the wrestlers DC was maybe alex wouldn't give up postion as easy and wouldn't take risk but that would just make it easier for daniel to do whatever he wants on the ground alex peria would be submitted in the first round
The issue with wrestling pereira is that shooting on him can be a death sentence if he reads you. The reaction time on his (alex) left is so insane it makes wrestlers scared to shoot in the first place. Not to mention the lack of power that comes after taking leg kicks over and over, which alex would absolutely be dolling out. Pereira wins 7/10 times imo
This Alex Pereira hype is the craziest shit I’ve ever seen in watching MMA for the past 20 years. This man has been taken down by the likes of Izzy, Jan, and Jiri all mid to below average grapplers. Shown a suspect chin in both Izzy fights. Gus and Rumble both have much better taken down defense than Alex. I see this fight going very similar to the Jones and Gane fight, stay on the feet for a bit then DC gets a takedown and mauls him into a finish.
Prime DC has a chin. He took shots from someone who debatable hits harder than Alex Periera. The Late Anthony Rumble Johnson. R.I.P. Also the difference in wrestling is damn near higher than the difference in their striking. Yall forget DC's like an Olympian. Prime it's more interesting than ppl think but he's taking Periera down and he ain't getting up.
Nah bro, hard disagreed. DC is way bigger and has actual grappling unlike most of the guys nowadays who don't use a single lick of their skills ala Chandler lol If they fought at lhw, Alex might have a chance, at heavyweight, DC'd ragdoll him through 5 rounds, or choke him out 2nd round max
I think you're conclusions basically right but not your argument. DC's wrrestling cannot be compared to that of Jan or Jiri's, he's teirs above both of them in takedowns, managing position, and ground and pound. It's simpler than all this anyway. Jones is the compaison. But Pereira is basically Jones with better striking and much less grappling (and eye poking). Pereira's beats DC via left hook or (like Jones) left high kick most times. But I'd put the hypothetical win rate at 6 out of 10. Cormier would win mostly by 5 rounds on the ground and occasionaly by submission.
I see the points. There are many things that could happen. But for all you guys saying DC easily finishes Alex. Guys All DC has on the ground in ground and pound and a rear naked. Both proved to be useless against Alex couse he is literally based around defending those things. I'm sure DC could take him down if he is in range he can shoot and use the skills and strenght to get Alex down. But then what? He ain't subbing Alex he isn't a bjj guy really. He also not gonna wrestle for 5 rounds to a decision couse by that point he is either gassed or KOd. On the feet he is short, not athletic, slow. His defence is just literally extend your hands and walk into range looking for overhooks or takedowns and dirty boxing. With the mobility, range management, skill, IQ reaction time, power and speed Alex has on the feet, as well as the deadly weapons that can land any moment it's not unreal to see why Alex would win. DC is open for kicks. He literally said the same about his style by proxy when talking about Jones. At long range he is fooked with the leg kicks and potential high kicks Alex like to throw these days. Hell he can time a flying knee on DC for all we know, hell it doesn't have to be flying just a knee couse DC is 5'4 at least. In close range he is already left hooked or kneed up. And in between he can get cought by anything. Also it's really hard to wrestle a striker who has 0 respect for your striking and he knows you only want to graplle. It happened to Usman against Leon, Aljo against Sterling, Alex against everybody ect. DC got nothing standing against Alex. He got no kicks couse he is short and fat. He got no punches couse 1 Alex has good chin and defence 2 he rolls with shots and keeps a good range, also DC usually swings over the top and stuff like that wtih that style. We see Miocic landing left hooks to the body at will against DC becouse of it. Alex can do the same then set up a left hook to.the head for example. Só DC got nothing on Alex on the feet he won't pressure as much couse he knows he can get slept. So he will be more messured, but by doing that he will stay at long range getting choped up, and at that range you can be the best wrestler ever, you won't be in range to use it. And even if he gets thro all the takedown defence, the range the possible fight ending coutner shots from Alex and gets him down he can't sub him, can't TKO him, he will drag him a bit but then Alex gets up or the round end. And after 2 more takedowns DC is gassed. Alex's way to win is very easy, very open for him due to the lack of striking of DC with the attributes such as reach speed ect, and the skill. DC's way to win is by graplling which is harder to do couse he won't win by sub or GNP and he will gass at some point. 60-40% Pereira
Olivera just moving around the room behind you is terrifying
Lmao
weeping angel charles oliveira
Charlinho is a nice guy.
Everybody has a plan until they lose the decision against Belal
Dividida ainda kkkk
@@heresthethingyouguys yeah, until they get decisioned by… wait, what’s his name again?? I always forget.
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@@Dude-tv6cjI think his name is undisputed ufc world champion what’s yrs ?🤔what ever hwo cares
That was a fun 13 minutes and 41 seconds of staring at Charles Oliveira
Are you the new Jewru?
@@eli.b.7559 I make similar style vids but I'm not Jewru
@@FatGuruMMA staring at dudes like Jon jones
pls post soon
DC doesnt close distance nearly as good as charles did this whole video
Hmmm guys im guessing he likes Charles Oliveira.
I mean he is president of the Charles Oliveira fan club
Henry cejudo level intellect from you man
@nelsoncarmona1981 But dude, I think he's a Charlie olives fan man, I really do, I think he's a fan. #bedtimecrew
@@sidnotthesloth1827 you're sad
@CrawlingNYourSkull1 its not an American thing brazillian fighters just tend to be cool and likeable
Che looks like the chad version of Lucas Tracy
Che looks like a PIPSQUEEK compared to Lucas Tracy
nah Lucas is way bigger physically
@@РиконСтарк-ь2иChes taller tho, and hed ko Lucas
@@РиконСтарк-ь2и lucas ain't bigger, he is like 5'8 170 pounds while che is 6'2 180 pounds
He looks like sage northcutt but on meth
Charles oliveria cutout is a new mythical fighter
DC would dunk Periera on his head. With the threat of the takedown Periera won't tee off like he did against Izzy, Jiri, and Hill. DC's beaten stronger guys with better takedown defense
DC also hasn’t faced someone with a mix of elite striking and power like Pereria. Pereria was still throwing a lot against Blachowicz even tho he knew Blachowicz would shoot take downs.
@@doyouunderstandthisBlachowicz isn't as good a wrestler as DC though, there's a way better chance of DC keeping him down.
@@doyouunderstandthis blachowicz isn't half the wrestler that dc was come on
DC is closer to Rico verhoeven then Pereira to Dc in wrestling.
DC is underrated and hated by most for no clear reason. It's sad seeing someone who achieved this much in MMA forgotten.
Real Gs know that DC is one of the greatest martial artist
In my opinion he's at least top seven greatest of all time. If Jones didn't exist he would likely be number one.
You can see this fool watering down his performance against Rumble just because he is glazing Pereira
DC is a terrible person and an overrated fighter. Stipe owned him so hard
@@ryomen____yagami you're a hater just keep your mouth shut. Stipe beat an old DC with back issues. DC KOed a young Stipe stiff.
Recency bias is a helluva drug
Nostalgia is even stronger
"a helluva drug!" - 🤓☝️
old heads hangin on for dear life with the ‘recency bias’ takes
DC beats Pereira and it's not even close, I can't take this Aikido guy seriously
How about nostalgia bias and copium?
The big problem for DC like you said is that he couldnt keep up the wrestling round after round from starting MMA later in life. eventually this fight will be on the feet and DC just marching at him would be a terrible idea
I think Alex gets submitted in the first round
@@vgirreland9138he couldn't finish Derrick Lewis first round and he didn't even train grappling at the time
@@cameronharper4554 Derrick Lewis fights at 265 claims he cuts ONLY 25 pounds in three days that’s 290 he claims that brother is not an ounce under 300 walking in the cage you can’t compare 300 pounds vs 205
@what-up3vz ok he also couldn't finish Anderson Silva on 2 days notice post leg break
@@what-up3vzAlex does not actually weigh 205 lol
Jump scare @11:18 😭
DC couldnt finish Anderson Silva post leg break on 2 days notice on the ground, and almost got finished at the end
Anderson Silva, the grappling prodigy who's largely considered one of the Top 5 in the history of the sport? You don't say... 🤔🤔🤔
Anderson Silva was 100% way better on the ground than Alex at least by that point in his career. Although I do agree with your general point DC ain’t Charles Oliveira lol; still definitely good enough to get Alex down and keep him there if he doesn’t eat a left hook coming in though.
But he also beat all the top Light Heavyweights in the division except for one who happened to be Jon Jones. He beat one of the best Heavyweights in the UFC too.
Silva is a bbj black belt and has multiple submission wins ???
Silva is an actual BJJ black belt, unlike Pereira
I love Poatan. But I would never sit here and allow such slander against dc. My glorious king dc slams Alex 8/10 times.
I would say DC by crucifix TKO
DC did super well for someone who started doing MMA and striking so late and for such a short guy for that division and he was old in most of his later title fights but like GSP said, most current high level fighters would beat pretty much all previous generation elites
I know Alex isnt really proven on the ground, but cmon, the year is 2024 and people still think being a wrestler is an instant win against an striker. Alex jabbing up DC to the body then catching him with a left hook is completely possible scenario
Ik even the worst wrestlers at the top of each division won’t get wragdolled by the best wrestlers because take down defense is much more trained and common in todays mma landscape especially with strikers. Everyone still thinks this is 2014 where wrestlers can just take people down and win at will. Not only has take down defense improved but overall skill and striking has too. We have wayyyy more well rounded fighters and elite strikers in today’s ufc.
Anderson Silva did better against DC on 2 days' notice than anyone gives him credit for. He almost TKO'd DC in the end of the 3rd round.
I'd be interested in prime Anderson Silva vs. Alex Pereira.
But DC either holds Alex down for 5 rounds or gets knocked out. He can't contest on the feet
And Silva was way smaller than Alex, better bjj but his wrestling was most likely worse than Pereira
@@Cr722aAnderson was 6’2 and 220 out of camp with more power and frankly offensive ability than Izzy.
@@7reasons617 He was out of shape at 220. For the DC fight, he weighed in at 198.5lbs. That was his in shape walk around weight.
@@ekayn1606 That’s fair honestly. But Izzy weighed in at 200 on the dot but but he walks at about 215. He’s 6’2 1/2 at the most and Spider seemed to be a little thicker in frame imo.
@@7reasons617 haha Izzy is 6'3"... Anyone with a working pair of eyes knows that...
We have also seen him in that face off with Anderson Silva, he's clearly at least an inch taller than Silva who's 6'2"...
next video, Systematically breaking down why flukas glazys top 15 strikers list is pure dogshit
Streaming in front of a charles oliveira shrine is crazy work
Alex is completely unproven against wrestlers, dc would beat him unless alex shows otherwise. Even ankalaev isn't at his level
DC is ass at grappling, just a big fatty, and Alex has decent takedown defence, his coach made him train on it after he couldn't escape michailidis for the entire first round
not many wrestlers at light heavyweight anyways except ankalaev and ankalaev will get sent to the shadow realm this fall, just stay tune🤫
@@draco2xx ankalaev is not a wrestler. He is primarily a striker who has decent ground game.
Ankalaev isn’t even a wrestler dummy
@@rohitghoshalPeople see the name and automatically assume he's LHW Khabib
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that's a unexpected crossover right here
@@muri110 bro seriously my head just exploded thought i was on the wrong video
when we getting another video my brother?
This is just patently false. DC would thrash Alex in like 8/10 scenarios, Alex might get a few KOs but he'd have to risk opening himself up to takedowns. I agree that Rumble isn't a good comparison to Alex, but obviously the comparison is meant to demonstrate the level of dominance DC would display.
Alex would kill him on the feet, yes. He is amazing at picking people from range. The calf kicks add up. All true. But are we really going to act like Pereira would survive a single round on the ground?
"Super safe, defensive and rides out the round" means NOTHING against DC. He is miles, miles, miles above the combined grappling skills of Jiri, Jan, and Izzy combined. Once DC grabs ahold of Alex, I really only see 2 possibilities:
1) Mat return after mat return -> TKO or sub
2) "stays defensively sound" and then gets outgrappled and subbed or TKOed from GnP.
Let's be real, Alex is underrated on the ground but he is not good enough to survive DC's onslaught. Any example provided is irrelevant because there isn't a single fighter in LHW currently with DC's grappling prowess.
He has to avoid getting taken down at all costs to have a chance , which he would fail at imo. There's no reason DC would struggle subbing or TKOing a guy like Alex, the skill gap is too big.
what subs from DC lol? His only sub was against Dan hendo, Johnson, and lewis. Couldnt even sub roy nelson or josh barnett.... oh and all his subs came from RNC. So now if ur thinking he will TKO then maybe? But Silva survived 3 rounds short notice. An younger silva that got dominated by chael in similar fashion. So you think Dc was nice? Or are you just overhyping his ability to finish on the ground
@@mavin-u7nHe also tko’d Volkan Oezdemir in the 2nd round in a crucifix.
This is 100% true. Pereira would be the worst grappler DC fought in a big figjt
@@mavin-u7noh, didnt he KO bigfoot? Didnt he tko Volkan? Didnt he finish Stipe. You're just tryna hate. The fact is DC would beat Alex 7/10
I'm usually not one to say this but the Poatan glaze is getting insane. He's NEVER had to face an aggressive wrestler/submission specialist like DC or Jon Jones. I'm a big fan of the guy but people act like he hasn't had favorable match ups his entire UFC career.
I'm honestly in full agreement. Ya i'd be able to take Alex down easily rnd 1 but if he stays on his back and frames well, I wont be able to do much, my only chance would be if he gives up his back which I don't think he'd be dumb enough to do, he'd most likely do exactly what he did in the first Jiri fight and just stay safe, then as the fight goes on its gonna be harder and harder to take him down. It's true I rarely look for takedowns in the latter half of the fight and I have no idea how i'd close the distance with his power and striking ability, I depend on guys like Rumble to throw recklessly. Gustafsson fucked me up bad I was lucky to keep my belt in that fight. I'm utterly terrified of this matchup
bro is not dc💀
He gave up his back to Izzy & Jan who aren't wrestlers lol, wdym he's not dumb enough. DC ragdolls this guy
@Nykandros taking someone's back is a skill from bjj not wrestling, Jan has more rear naked choke finishes in his career than DC does and couldn't finish Alex.
@@bloon170 That doesn't matter, bc DC would just dominate & force him into the position through overwhelming wrestling. Alex isn't skilled enough for DC to actually need to learn BJJ to get him on his back lol
@@Nykandros thats different tho alex is evolving if alex is taken down hes just going to hold on to dc like we have seen alex quicky evolving compare his wrestling skill to the izzy fight then to the jiri fight two very different fighters the real question is will alex be able to ko dc at the start of the very round also alex is very quickly evolving in the bjj and wrestling pretty unfair to compare his fight 2 years ago at the start of his ufc career
Best mma channel
Love the way u break things down. Entertaining and insightful. On par if not better than the weasel imo. Keep it up
"On par if not better than the weasel" don't be delusional
@@user-sw5wn8go3k damn bro it’s just an opinion. No right answer my guy
@@daviddiaz2940 I gave you my opinion as well
you are so correct, MMA fanbase is soooo nostalgic towards fighters, I saw ppl saying prime Gustafsson would KO pereira LMFAOO
i think mma fans are worse when it comes to recency bias then with nostalgia
People always glaze wrestlers these days for some reason, despite the fact that we’ve seen great strikers beat great wrestlers before plenty of times.
Great wrestlers dominating great strikers is more common
@@kevin-pu5cfthat isn’t remotely true
Wrestling is just dominant by nature... Deal with it...
@@kevin-pu5cfthis would’ve been facts about 8-10 years ago.
@@harsha1989ableur stuck in 2014 bud
DC is 5’9 Alex is 6’4 flat
That’s why dc is the goat. Bros the size of welterweights but dominated vs giants. Only ever losing to the hw goat stipe. And the lhw cheat coke jones.
@@icecoldfire25 height
Not size
@@icecoldfire25size and height aren’t exactly the same thing. You can be 6’7 and the same size as a welterweight.
@@icecoldfire25He arguably beat Jones in the first fight too.
@@andrewsmith5512😂 you on coke? 50-45 Jones is closer than 48-47 DC
Comparing Jan and Jiri’s grappling to DC is funny af ngl
He didnt compare Jan and Jiri to DC. He was looking at how Pereira reacted in certain positions and what he does on the ground, which is just stay completely safe and wait to reset on the feet
Ya they also have better submission game then DC did lol. Difference between grappling and wrestling.
@@Phillip-jx3dg I know but it Jiri and Jan and Izzy can ragdoll Pereira on the ground. I believe DC can too
@@noahtremblay2676 If DC was fighting in KSW and Rizin, he would have 10+ submission wins too lmao
@nitrox1613 "Ragdoll" as in stay on top in full guard and barely do any damage? Jan did get the body triangle from Alex turteling, but how does DC finish Alex on the ground if he just stays off his back and waits for the fight to get reset on the feet?
*Good points however my friend Dcs improved striking mixed with the Takedowns as well as how good his chin was would result in a Decision win for Dc, Dcs fight vs Volkan oezdimier is the best example minus how volkan got pinned to the matt also all the Stipe fights is the same Dc improved enough to beat alex and ill stick to that as the same wouldve happened with Francis ngannou*
I think he has something for brazilian fighters
I think this debate will be more interesting once Pererira faces someone more grappling heavy like Ankelaev. Even he is more of a striker and no where close to dc in terms of wrestling but after that fight we can see how good Pereira's takedown defense will be
Ankelaev is not a heavy wrestler he's more of a striker
idk why people keep talking about ankalaev like hes a wrestler, maybe its his name that throws people off
I think Gustafson vs dc would be a closer comparison to Alex vs dc
RIP Rumble
I didn't notice Charles until the 11:20 mark when he's directly behind u, this plays into my head cannon that he's alive when you go to sleep and prints off another picture of himself to hang up
This type of controversial takes and breakdowns reminds me of Mexican Martial Arts. Very controversial but you give a very strong reasoning and deduction for the way you come to that conclusion.
6/10 rage bait
Your hate on wrestling probably says more about your own style of jiu-jitsu than about MMA. Your last video on how wrestling is dying made me lose faith in your analyses.
Rest in peace rumble Johnson
I fw Charles too but having all them pics and a full cut out is suspect
you made good points about Alex's stand up being a huge issue for Daniel but the comparison of grappling between a DC and Jiri is gonna be day and night by a mile. Dc has alot more options for holding Alex P down and opening him for clean shots during g n p sequences. Also Gustafosson does throw alot of volume but hes definitely got high level accuracy but I would say Alex P is still more accurate
DC is more of a 5'9 guy, too
Lucky to beat pereira once? lol
If dc gets a takedown do you think Alex will do better at getting back up than any heavyweight DC crushed?
FYI rumble has better TD defence and grappling than Alex.
Dc is crazy good but i agree with this alexs power timing and accuracy and those kicks man would cause DC massive issues
this guy might be an Olivera fan
Lucky to win once? 😂bro Alex has great takedowns against the fence but we don’t have any proof that he can defend takedowns in open space against a short wrestler and we never will.
DC would smoke him.
One of the only fighters who punches anywhere near decent. It’s no surprise he’s annihilating the competition. Exposing all the “elite striking” in UFC for the joke it is.
DC would rag doll Pereira. Adesanya took Pereira what do you think DC would do?
Do you even saw a video? DC didnt have a cardio to wrestle for 5 rounds and Pereira is hard to submit once DC will be forced to stand - Alex gonna put him away
@@РиконСтарк-ь2иhard To submit ? Alex never fought a grappler like dc
Adesanya failed all his takedowns against Alex. He did land on top when Alex failed a trip (which I believe he won't try against DC). Alex also took Izzy down with a double leg.
So are we gonna pretend like Alex Pereira wouldn’t be slowed down from wrestling with dc, we gone pretend like dc taking him down and wearing on him forcing him to try and get back up that wouldn’t zap his gas tank at all? We just gone act like we haven’t seen Alex lose some steam on his punches after grappling the Jan fight his shots had less steam after the grappling for the ppl that are gonna say it was at elevation the izzy fight his shots had less steam round 4 after grappling the previous round like I understand that dc is gonna have to stand with him but we just gone pretend like Alex’s standup isn’t gonna be hindered by the threat of the takedown plus dc’s ability to wear on u and overwhelm u????
Edit: for the dc not going for late takedowns are we also gonna pretend like Dc didn’t choose to wrestle less against Stipe and Gus because the effort it took him to get them down and control wasn’t worth the reward is Alex Pereira as good at defending takedowns as Gus and stipe???? Does he do a great job of getting off his back??? The answer is hell no he literally gets controlled turtled in his early fights or nowadays stays on his back yetis to get wrist control or frame off and he doesn’t try to get up until he thinks there’s an opening I’m very confident the effort against him isn’t gonna be as taxing as it was against two of the best defensive wrestlers in the heavier weight class like cmon bruh
Edit #2: which dc we talking bout because heavyweight 40 year old dc is obviously gonna have a worse wrestling gas tank unless your a Derrick Lewis but mid to somewhat early 30’s dc was still capable of wrestling in volume it just depends on the fighter against Gus he had a hard time with the distance and couldn’t even get in on Gus his last few attempts so he stopped because his wasn’t making any progress u think Pereira has elusive hips like Gus? We kno that’s a big fat no, also Dc had the gas tank to wrestle late with Jon jones I kno pride was a big factor in that and a lot of there fight was on the feet in the clinch but he still was able to try and wrestle late snd these are some of the best defensive wrestlers in upper weight class history bruh this nigga Pereira isn’t like that man he not
I disagree that Alex would even try to get back up rnds 1 and 2 if he gets taken down, and you can't deny DC wouldn't wrestle past round 3. He's gonna have to stand with Pereira at some point
@@cameronharper4554 I never said pereira would try to do it in rounds 1/2 I said in the rest of the comment Pereira looks for an opening to try and get up which could very well happen in the first, two round but I can absolutely argue that dc would wrestle past the first 3 rounds, name a fighter that doesn’t have elite tdd that dc stopped trying to takedown after two rounds cause last time I checked Pereira isn’t Stipe, Jones and Gus
The problem is that during Alex's fights against Izzy, his grappling looked absolutely abysmal. Izzy's grappling didn't look good either tbh lol
Charles…
Bro Rumble has way better wrestling then Alex. DC would destroy him with ease.
I still think prime DC wins but i admit talked me down from 90:10 to 60:40
rewatched a lot of DC fights I hate his boxing defense lol. Extended your arms out there is asking to get chinned like strickland
Alex got taken down my Jan ? Ok then dc finishes him in the first, Alex Pereira beat striker that keep their hands down(jiri is a free win)
Wow amazing detailed argument you've presented here. It's tough to argue with science 😂
@@bloon170 u can try, Jan is a striker, if slow unathlectic Jan can close the distance and take u down,dc can
Bro DC didn’t even finish Derrick Lewis in the first stop it. And Silva was in his 40s and also got taken down a whole lot and DC didn’t finish him either
@@shaneg4388 Silva has better bjj, tell me someone who try to takedown pereira and didn’t succeed
@@JbBlastdouble I mean i could say the same about Silva all of the guys he fought with wrestling took him down and had moments where they were beating him up on the ground. Yeah he had submissions but Alex doesn’t really need submissions he just needs to survive. And the point is it’s hard to close to attempt without putting yourself in danger with someone that powerful and skilled
Nah bro mma math Rumble>Gus>Jan>izzy that one time>alex. Rumble beats Alex 50% of the time and DC beats rumble 100% of the time so DC beats Alex mma math bro you Casual
Or new mma maths Alex>Jiri>Reyes>Jones>Dc
great breakdown.
at this point you'll have to photoshop oliveira's face on dillon danis'
hey I dont know if you noticed but you have Charles Oliveira in your room
I disagree with this assessment when you say that DC wins 0 out of 10 times. DC is absolutely a bad matchup for Alex, not to say Pereira couldn’t tear his legs up and catch him coming in quite a few times, he most certainly could. But DC was never the type to just lunge for takedowns with reckless abandon, he would always find a way to clinch up the bigger, taller fighters and then once he was safe in the clinch he’d shoot for his takedowns. Not only that, sure DC wasn’t a submission ace on the ground, but he most definitely would ground and pound the shit out of Alex Pereira. I’m way more of an Alex fan than I ever was of DC and I’m telling you, your recency bias is blinding you to the reality of this matchup. Alex could have KO’d DC quite a few times in these hypothetical fights, but more often than not he faces a wrestler unlike anyone he’s seen before and gets dunked on his head and beat up on the bottom.
Pereria is even better in the clinch than DC and DC’s striking defense, specifically his boxing defense, is pretty bad. DC leaves his chin up and extends his arms out which is what Strickland did before Pereria sent him into a nap. Pereria has trained clinching for years in kickboxing and has lethal knees.
DC whiles the floor with Pereira. Period. End of story. And if DC wanted to beat Silva worse and finish him, he would have. He was going easy on him out of respect.
"Period" your @ss, casual, you ain't nobody with knowledge enough to express a valid opinion on it.
Is Alex Periera starting to take over as our lord and saviour ? I am seeing the signs.
The Jesus christ of the UFC? I believe so. He has now saved three events on short notice. He is the new face of the UFC (screw McGregor for pulling out over a bruised pinky toe). He is everything we thought Khamzat would be. He has a super exciting and entertaining style.
Hopefully he doesnt end up dying for our sins (fighting and losing at heavy weight).
So what confuses me is if alex is just gonna turtle up on the ground, wouldn't DC know that and set him up to give up his back?
If you switch jan or jiri for dc in any of the situations they had alex it's gg
And if Oliveira and Tsarukyan ever fight, Tsarukyan is for sure getting subbed 😂
Olivera lost to Arman
@@theunkownguy5574 😱😱 tell Che
Come on man, you know that the reason DC’s choke worked against Rumble when Jan’s didn’t against Alex is because it wasn’t as good, he’s in a different position with his weight leaning forward on rumble, and rumble doesn’t have an easy opportunity to use his right hand to pull down DC‘s right hand since he’s bearing weight on it. DC is leaning to the right for a reason.
Pereira would become the biggest ragdoll in the history of the division if he went up against DC. Your anti-wrestling coping becomes more obvious by the day lol
@@Nykandros bro I'm literally Daniel Cormier and I appreciate the love but you just saying that isn't an argument.
@@DCdanielcormier It is, because Alex has next to no actual skills that can nullify such high-pressure, brute wrestling. If he's getting his back taken by people like Izzy & Jan then yes, DC ragdolls him lol. This isn't even something that needs deep analysis tbh
Bro really fell for Big Wrestling Propaganda 😂😂
@@Nykandros He has next to no skills to nullify high pressure? You genuinely said that with a straight face? How about the fact he has insane ko power and accuracy. Again, my problem was always that I couldn't keep up the high pace wrestling past the 3rd round. It happened in all my fights, and if Alex doesn't give up his back, how can I finish him? My strength was never submissions or guard passes. It took me 2 rounds to finish Derrick Lewis, who legitimately never wrestled before
@@DCdanielcormier KO Power doesn't matter because the fight is going to the ground immediately. Don't bet the farm on puncher's chance lmao. The opponents DC faced that were in the same tier as Alex regarding a lack of grappling (Anthony Johnson, Derrick Lewis & Dan Henderson) all lost by submission. Derrick also has no neck, so I expect it to be a struggle for anyone to get him out of there.
The only people that were able to force DC into a stand up fight are those with prior grappling experience (besides Volkan, but even he has some BJJ history) like Jones, Silva etc.
Like I said, Alex simply isn't good enough for this to be a fight dependent on technical skill; he will quite literally be eaten alive by DC"s wrestling lol. It is that simple.
on the ground, I feel like DC would be able to finish Alex and wouldn't need to keep up a good pace of takedowns for 5 round to win a decision. On the ground Alex's skills right now are not as good as Gustaffson in his fight with DC, so DC may only need 1 takedown maybe 2. and can find a submission or have more success with ground and pound than against Gustafson.
Alex has been gifted the most favorable matchups in the history of the UFC. Dude would lose to Bo Nickal.
Daniel has dealt with power, hes dealt with long rangy strikers only guys that gave him problems was alex Gustafson,stipe, and jon Jones all had either had a wrestling background or has great take down defense,jan and jiri are no where near the wrestlers DC was maybe alex wouldn't give up postion as easy and wouldn't take risk but that would just make it easier for daniel to do whatever he wants on the ground alex peria would be submitted in the first round
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The issue with wrestling pereira is that shooting on him can be a death sentence if he reads you.
The reaction time on his (alex) left is so insane it makes wrestlers scared to shoot in the first place.
Not to mention the lack of power that comes after taking leg kicks over and over, which alex would absolutely be dolling out.
Pereira wins 7/10 times imo
Did you see the Pereira vs Jan fight?
I think if DC can finish Alex in the first few rounds then thats the best chance he has but if it goes farther than that DC might get slept
i see you've taken up fent before thinking of making this video 🔥💪
This Alex Pereira hype is the craziest shit I’ve ever seen in watching MMA for the past 20 years. This man has been taken down by the likes of Izzy, Jan, and Jiri all mid to below average grapplers. Shown a suspect chin in both Izzy fights. Gus and Rumble both have much better taken down defense than Alex. I see this fight going very similar to the Jones and Gane fight, stay on the feet for a bit then DC gets a takedown and mauls him into a finish.
Prime DC has a chin. He took shots from someone who debatable hits harder than Alex Periera. The Late Anthony Rumble Johnson. R.I.P. Also the difference in wrestling is damn near higher than the difference in their striking. Yall forget DC's like an Olympian. Prime it's more interesting than ppl think but he's taking Periera down and he ain't getting up.
Prime Cormier would drop Alex on his head whenever he wants to 😂😭
DC was never good
@@Dimitriterrorman💀💀
yeah probably, but styles make fights dc can still get slept
must have forgotten about triple C
Cormier would ragdoll homie.
Dc didnt wrestle too much agaisnt stipe and a guftason because those guy are actuallly good at defending takedowns 😂😂
Nah bro, hard disagreed. DC is way bigger and has actual grappling unlike most of the guys nowadays who don't use a single lick of their skills ala Chandler lol If they fought at lhw, Alex might have a chance, at heavyweight, DC'd ragdoll him through 5 rounds, or choke him out 2nd round max
People like dancers and jokers. Few people care about efficiency
DC vs Henderson is what would happen
For sure
DC will tell you that himself
If Perreira wins Anakalaev, you should make sure Charles isnt alone anymore hahahahahaha
Then how come jon Jones will beat Alex during the exact same thing as he did to Ciryl Gane?
Love your takes, you can tell you’re a real fan of mma unlike Tracy.
alex has a black belt in jiu jitsu he would win trust
41 seconds ago is crazy
DC's mummy guard defense is the worst possible guard against the deadliest left hook in the sport, also couldn't deal with body shots
Thank you for lecturing casuals.
I think you're conclusions basically right but not your argument. DC's wrrestling cannot be compared to that of Jan or Jiri's, he's teirs above both of them in takedowns, managing position, and ground and pound. It's simpler than all this anyway. Jones is the compaison. But Pereira is basically Jones with better striking and much less grappling (and eye poking). Pereira's beats DC via left hook or (like Jones) left high kick most times. But I'd put the hypothetical win rate at 6 out of 10. Cormier would win mostly by 5 rounds on the ground and occasionaly by submission.
this what ive been SAYING
Only reason rumble lost is cause he tried wrestling DC!!! He rocked DC and definitely could have won. Alex ain’t dumb enough to wrestle
and dc aint dumb enough to wrestle
I see the points.
There are many things that could happen.
But for all you guys saying DC easily finishes Alex.
Guys
All DC has on the ground in ground and pound and a rear naked.
Both proved to be useless against Alex couse he is literally based around defending those things.
I'm sure DC could take him down if he is in range he can shoot and use the skills and strenght to get Alex down.
But then what?
He ain't subbing Alex he isn't a bjj guy really.
He also not gonna wrestle for 5 rounds to a decision couse by that point he is either gassed or KOd.
On the feet he is short, not athletic, slow.
His defence is just literally extend your hands and walk into range looking for overhooks or takedowns and dirty boxing.
With the mobility, range management, skill, IQ reaction time, power and speed Alex has on the feet, as well as the deadly weapons that can land any moment it's not unreal to see why Alex would win.
DC is open for kicks.
He literally said the same about his style by proxy when talking about Jones.
At long range he is fooked with the leg kicks and potential high kicks Alex like to throw these days.
Hell he can time a flying knee on DC for all we know, hell it doesn't have to be flying just a knee couse DC is 5'4 at least.
In close range he is already left hooked or kneed up.
And in between he can get cought by anything.
Also it's really hard to wrestle a striker who has 0 respect for your striking and he knows you only want to graplle.
It happened to Usman against Leon, Aljo against Sterling, Alex against everybody ect.
DC got nothing standing against Alex.
He got no kicks couse he is short and fat.
He got no punches couse 1 Alex has good chin and defence 2 he rolls with shots and keeps a good range, also DC usually swings over the top and stuff like that wtih that style.
We see Miocic landing left hooks to the body at will against DC becouse of it.
Alex can do the same then set up a left hook to.the head for example.
Só DC got nothing on Alex on the feet he won't pressure as much couse he knows he can get slept.
So he will be more messured, but by doing that he will stay at long range getting choped up, and at that range you can be the best wrestler ever, you won't be in range to use it.
And even if he gets thro all the takedown defence, the range the possible fight ending coutner shots from Alex and gets him down he can't sub him, can't TKO him, he will drag him a bit but then Alex gets up or the round end.
And after 2 more takedowns DC is gassed.
Alex's way to win is very easy, very open for him due to the lack of striking of DC with the attributes such as reach speed ect, and the skill.
DC's way to win is by graplling which is harder to do couse he won't win by sub or GNP and he will gass at some point.
60-40% Pereira
Charles moving lmao
Idk about DC, but if Rumble and Alex fought 10/10 times Rumble sleeps him. Death, Taxes, and Rumble by KO
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Dude DC beats Alex easy … 50-42 on the scorecards