Will it Stay on the Track? | Dapol N Gauge A4 | Unboxing & Review

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    I decided to try another Dapol N gauge steam locomotive, to see if it worked any better than the Britannia from a few weeks ago, here's what happened!
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    0:00 Intro
    2:39 Unboxing
    7:38 Prototype Info
    8:58 Detail
    16:15 Mechanism
    20:43 Performance
    25:35 Haulage
    31:26 Ratings
    35:32 Final Thoughts
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  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    I have had one of these since 2019. I'm pleased to report my example does stay on the track, and there are no visible glue marks, but the side rods keep falling off and the loco to tender wires had broken away two times, now the tender wheels are doing all the picking up. I vow never to get a Dapol N gauge tender steamie ever again. ☹
    It's still my favourite N gauge loco, I'm too much of a Gresley simp. 😆

    • @jackstrains4468
      @jackstrains4468 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Me too😅😅 I really love the a4s and generally the lner and gresley locos!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Good stuff - yes this one stays on true! Ahh annoying about those issues though - not good!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @ShibaInYourWalls
      @ShibaInYourWalls 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I had one too, my main issue was the driveshaft did fall out and was a pain to reposition. It's a cute loco, but a little frustrating.

  • @JimmyProductions
    @JimmyProductions 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Thank you for doing some more n scale models! I model in n scale, and I also live in the USA. I like to watch these reviews so that way I know I don't waste my money and time.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's a pleasure - this one was much more enjoyable! Glad you liked the video,
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @Elvinley
    @Elvinley 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Good to see another N gauge review Sam, but these are very old now and have been bettered quite dramatically. You will find that each and every Dapol tender loco uses the same mechanism. Farish tender locos are completely different, but some are still tender drive such as the Black 5. I would recommend a Castle, Duchess, C Class, N Class, Merchant Navy Etc from Farish - all loco drive. I have had lots of these A4s over the years and there are one or two issues to look out for and improvements that can be made.

  • @mikeuk1954
    @mikeuk1954 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Hi Sam.
    When you were running across the points, there was a distinct bump over them. I suggest looking at the frog area. It needs fettling.
    Great review.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks Mike - I will look into that!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @Locomattive8572
    @Locomattive8572 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Sam you have to stop thinking N Gauge is Cheaper because it’s smaller. The prices tend to match OO equivalent. This is especially true of Graham Farish / Bachmann.
    Whether it should be, is a different question.
    One other thing. Try a 1980s made Minitrix. There terrible for accuracy and mechanisms are really complicated. But they just work so well, and tend to have working lights. They put most modern N Gauge to shame on reliability

    • @aleopardstail
      @aleopardstail 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can see locomotives being a similar price, smaller and more intricate stuff afterall. rolling stock however
      agree on Minitrix, I used to have a "class 27 (ish)" locomotive, easily the most reliable I had

    • @Aina_Nightfall
      @Aina_Nightfall 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i ordered a Kato D51 for just under 60€ somedays ago for a steam engine its a pretty good price. You can get really good Kato and Tomix Diesel and Electric ones for 35-45€ too

  • @Samuussman
    @Samuussman 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Sam, your British OO modeling biases keep showing in these N scale reviews. It would be nice to see you approach these models from a more N-scaler perspective.
    A few pointers:
    - Plastic vs. metal: at this scale, plastic allows for better and finer detailing than metal.
    - Weight: light weight is a non-issue for modern mechanisms and shouldn't be part of a review. Most Japanese N scale MU motor wagons weight between 60 and 80 gr and can easily move a 12-car train. Tractive power in N mostly depends of the number of powered axles.
    - Traction tires: they are a standard on worldwide N scale since decades. There is nothing wrong with them. Stop complaining about them ;)
    - Details: N scale can pack an incredible amount of details. Chinese N scale locomotives often feels like miniature H0 models due to the amount and finesse of their details with metal handrails and incredibly legible prints.

  • @jackstrains4468
    @jackstrains4468 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Ah, a good old a4 - even at the smaller scale the loco looks amazing! I personally think the 00 gauge ones look much better, but considering the size, this is quite impressive! Those little etched details are record breaking commemorative plates that go on the sides of the loco, in case you were wondering! Easily my favourite class of loco, especially the garter blue mallard - just got a NRM exclusive glossy mallard, and it's incredible! Great video as always sam, and im always a sucker for the good old a4!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Jack I think so too! Yes I'd say I prefer the OO ones as they're much more substantial - but I think this is pretty much as good as you could hope for in N scale!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @John-Tropi
      @John-Tropi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@SamsTrains: It might be "Pretty much as good as you could hope for in N scale! (sic)",
      but in N GAUGE, from the likes of Arnold, Fleischmann, Kato, Minitrix and Roco, I have NEVER suffered any such issues.😀

  • @FormallyknownasE100
    @FormallyknownasE100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The round etches are for the speed record plaques.
    A fun A4 fact is they only have sand pipes for the forwards direction. Therefore on a railway like the NYMR they can struggle a fair bit in reverse if the railhead is wet/greasy.

  • @phantomxt2009
    @phantomxt2009 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have 5 A4s and 3 A3/A1's and 3 B1's. All have had minor quibble issues over the years, but all easily fixed and when these are upgraded with a Tramfabriek Coreless Motors and Zimo MS Sound Decoders, completely different locomotive. All My Dapol Tender Locos get a motor replacement, Tender Wires Replacement, Zimo MS Series Sound Fitment and the front bogies screws get adjusted to ensure they track as some are too loose or too tight from the factory, which is what your britannia is suffering. The Dapol 5 Pole Super Creep Motor is the worst part of these locos, too loud and not powerful enough. The whole upgrade process takes me 30 mins from start to finish and I have a model then that runs flawlessly, sounds great and provides enjoyment
    Maybe do a video on upgrading these locos to 2024 Standard (Coreless Motor, DCC Sound, etc) and then compare to an unmodified loco vs a modified loco

  • @michaelderozario5626
    @michaelderozario5626 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one of these A4’s. Fantastic looking loco and I’ve made a few improvements. Firstly a coreless motor, a Hornby tts sound decoder and speaker which all fits in the tender. The finish I improved by spraying with a gloss lacquer which has dried to a lovely sheen bringing out the colour and fine details which now ‘pop’. Runs beautifully.

  • @chrissouthgate4554
    @chrissouthgate4554 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Artist books will tell you that something further away looks flatter. Thus smaller N gauge locos (more distant) will look duller than bigger OO Logos (closer). It might be worth placing a OO & N loco at a distance where they appear to be the same size & comparing their look. It would be even better if you can include a photo of the real thing.

  • @shadowmaster8684
    @shadowmaster8684 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the detail in the thumbnail of having just 2 fingers reaching for the model instead of a whole hand

  • @AlongPreservedLines
    @AlongPreservedLines 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good review Sam, this is a pretty nice model, ignoring the tender driveshaft mechanism causing some problems... I don't model N Scale but having something like this would be really special on a N Scale layout, you can't go wrong with an a4! - The Monster of Monsters

  • @SET.YOUR.HANDLE-l2x
    @SET.YOUR.HANDLE-l2x 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey sam you are my favorite model train youtuber ever ive watched your videos since i was 6 you are absolutly amazing keep ut the good work

  • @adamwilliams192
    @adamwilliams192 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think I said under the Britannia review, but to my knowledge all Dapol tender locos have the same basic drive mechanism. When they started to do this many people questioned it, and the trade off to achieve more detail on this A4 over, say, the old Graham Farish design, seems a bit steep to me.
    Just a note; the couplings in the first accessory bag are a pair of Dapol’s own “Easy Shunt” magnetic opening couplings.
    They can be made to work very well for remote uncoupling and it’s a shame that most Dapol models no longer come with them.
    I would urge you to try some of Dapol’s Diesels (I have class 27, 56, 58 and 121) as they are good models. Oh and the HST as well.
    For comparison, Graham Farish do many steam locos, with none of their tender locos using a drive shaft (it’s a mixed bag of tender and loco drives).
    Great to see you continuing with N gauge.

  • @limehuzki
    @limehuzki 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im actually getting into n scale ^^ id love to see more.
    Currently im secretly building a train setup with kato track in my work locker

  • @SomeGuynamedOtto
    @SomeGuynamedOtto 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lovely video excited to watch

  • @MQ-11-
    @MQ-11- 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks - It's good to see some N scale reviews! Would love to see a review of the dapol M7 you bought. In my experience I've found that those Peco settrack points in that configuration will upset almost anything that isn't an 0-6-0 or a diesel, so it's impressive the A4 handled them so well. If you want a recommendation for a really good locomotive in N - try and get hold of a Farish SECR N or SECR C class, they are excellent models and the cab detail is on another level, especially on the C. I'm really hoping that we'll get another round of the Farish C class produced in future.

  • @GaryNumeroUno
    @GaryNumeroUno 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hi mukka,
    Hope this finds you and Claire both well.
    Thanks for the interesting review.
    Can I suggest when you start filming you go over the rolling stock to remove hairs and dust. Some of the fluff on that loco looks like rope at that scale! 😂
    That tender drive is horrendous. I cannot unsee the kicking and screaming which occurs between the loco and tender on bends due ro the chunky, clunky and awkward design.
    Not my cup of tea chum.
    Thanks anyway.
    Regards from Oz.
    Gaz

    • @tankmicr00man
      @tankmicr00man 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fair comment there geez.!

  • @nathanward9865
    @nathanward9865 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one of these, it’s excellent.
    I had an issue early on where I’d accidentally misaligned the front wheels. Check that you’ve got them attached and aligned correctly and you’ll have a very reliable loco.
    Great that it runs on R1 curves too, I can easily run mine through a big snake of points with no issues.

  • @willdobson7351
    @willdobson7351 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    N Gauge! Yes, Sam!! You are finally coming round. :)

  • @TrentFalkenrath
    @TrentFalkenrath 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yay, more N-scale stuff!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes!! :D

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You should try doing a review on bachmann 8f in N scale, I have one and it's such a wonderful model.
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

  • @iansngauge
    @iansngauge 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sam! Great to see you doing more N gauge! I don't think anyone in N gauge likes these tender driven locos, as they're notoriously unreliable! I'm also surprised it went over the S curve in the setrack points crossover, as that's a particularly tricky maneuver for a such a long loco with those large fixed wheels! I've got one of Dapol's new A4's on pre-order, but I'm not sure what tooling it uses - hopefully something significantly newer than from 2012! Keep the N gauge stuff coming! It's always interesting to get a perspective from someone who's predominantly modelled in OO! All the best, Ian.

  • @noahhorinek
    @noahhorinek 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find it incredibly sad that the Britania and this A4 have live trailing trucks (in N-scale) but Hornby ones are often static with unflanged wheels on OO scale.
    Great review, thanks Sam!
    I do know that Hornby goes for looks with the static truck, but it still drives me crazy.

  • @Nascarfan2506
    @Nascarfan2506 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:05: Trust me, I’m from the US where these model scale trains are popular and I have seen some model trains that cost over $800 (over £630), so I feel that you got it for an incredible price. Btw amazing vids 😁😁😁

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True - some of the prices over there are indeed crazy!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @AnimatedIsaac
    @AnimatedIsaac 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review sam! I’m impressed by its performance on the setrack points considering they are minimum 2nd radius locos and setrack points are 1st.

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Received my P2 with the steam generator and overall it’s fantastic, haven’t had the opportunity to try out the steam generator yet though, also recently fitted my bachmann class 90 with sound as well, it also gives me the servo operated pantograph which is a cool feature
    Decent overall review here Sam, my dad has 2 N gauge A4s, one is Sir Nigel Gresley and a minitrix one which is Mallard plus on that one while it’s N gauge it actually has forward lights, A4s have already been interesting in N gauge, they have always had the valences removed until dapol produced a valanced one but unfortunately with that one dapol had to leave off a piece of the valve gear.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh fantastic - I've heard good things about them! These N gauge A4s are very impressive actually :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @gat-x105strikegundam5
    @gat-x105strikegundam5 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please please please review another graham farish steam engine! They all run fantastically, I recommend the 2mt!

  • @jamesdunloptrains
    @jamesdunloptrains 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video today Sam I got to come home today from hospital and your wagons are amazing

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sorry to hear you've been at hospital - but so glad you like the wagons!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932
    @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Loco performed well over those points which are the worst for any loco other than an 060 over med or long radius these locos perform great. The real fun starts when you need to change a traction tyre which will eventually be required. In terms of pulling power mine pulled 9 coaches up a Helix with no issue. Nice review.

  • @briandesens144
    @briandesens144 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome video Sam's trains 😊

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Brian!

    • @briandesens144
      @briandesens144 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam's trains 🚆 😊

  • @paulsngaugechannel
    @paulsngaugechannel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sam, yes a good looking model. I had a few Dapol models a while ago, and they were ok, a bit noisy, like Graham Farish. I had a Q1 but cannot remember which manufacturer. That was a good model and not noisy.
    N gauge are not cheap, and they tend to justify the price by saying that they have improved the detail, but of course they haven’t. I like the A4’s but they don’t seem to run well in N gauge for long. Quite a few tend to end up as static models.
    Try GF , the newer models are more stable, but expensive.

  • @Luc-N-scale
    @Luc-N-scale 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sam, I've searched your channel but I could not find any other trains than UK models. Did you ever tested a Fleischmann, Piko or a Minitrix loco (N-scale 1:160) I wonder how these brands would stand the tests you do.

  • @samwoodward8491
    @samwoodward8491 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The coupling is similar to the real flying Scotsmen a few months back 😊

  • @John-Tropi
    @John-Tropi 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As usual, an excellent and very informative review.
    The standout abomination is the appalling fore and aft orientation of the trailing pony truck!
    Once seen, you simply cannot unsee it.
    Also unignorable is the rather poor coupling rod representation and then that seriously misbehaving rear coupler to the coaches.
    It might have been interesting to pull off the loco body to evaluate the feasibility of inserting the heaviest weight that might be persuaded to fit inside it. This could transform the smooth running, electrical pick-up AND drawbar pulling power, which is why this crude but SO effective improvementis so often utilized in Continental models which generally perform very well indeed.

  • @OliversRailwayModelling
    @OliversRailwayModelling 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Apparently the Dapol N gauge terrier and pannier are very good models, but I don’t have either, so take that with a pinch of coal!!
    Good review as always Sam!

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one of these, Golden Eagle in the LNER lined apple green. I have to say that mine is a great runner! It is a little noisy perhaps but it sure footed and reliable.
    I actually like that all the driving axles are geared, it takes the strain off the coupling rods, which considering how small they are in N GAUGE (NOT scale Sam!) I think is a good thing.
    The carden shaft is a solution to a problem of its time which if not ideal does work. I have a Farish Castle which the motor in the loco, which is smoother and quieter but which has poor traction due to lack of weight.... I own 7 Dapol locos with the carden design of drive and they all pull stock much better than the Castle with only one needed tweaking to run acceptably. This was the socket on the motor which needed some molding flash removing and being pushed onto the shaft by about another 1mm or so. It wasn't a new loco to me so I can't say if it was always like that or whether the previous owner had been at it before!
    One thing I do accept is that because of its size that N gauge can be a little more tempremental than larger scales. As an engineering myself I recognise many of the practial compromises that have had to be made to get such finely detailed locos that are frankly so tiny...... My O Gauge locos are certainly more reliable than my N gauge stable!

  • @cirseltoo
    @cirseltoo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My NINE have had very few problems over the six years I've had them. They ran over a mile a day on the exhibition layout "Croft Spa", running at scale express speeds with trains of up to 10 coaches or 30 vans for the fish train. Most of them have getting on for 30 miles under their wheels and still run well. The tender to loco drive was better at the time than the corresponding tender-only drive on the Farish Pacifics, which had a tendency to lock up the valve gear. Upgrading? Dapol is a small company and the engine-drive Bullied pacific is still in development- they have already said an upgrade to the A4 and A3 won't happen until they are happy with the Bullied mechanism. Best way of replacing a drive shaft is a pair of small curved pliers. Finally- your reverse running seems to show a bump in your track at the toe of the point, where you said "a bit of shaking".

  • @user-rb1ey8zc3e
    @user-rb1ey8zc3e 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for review ,Sam! I think,15 degree points don't fit for N-scale long locos. Use 7,5 degree one for the best performance!

  • @zippy5131
    @zippy5131 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've just repaired a Dapol 57XX for a club member as it ran very badly. The problem is the electrical pickups being the wheel shoulders in the bearings getting covered in oil on the loco. Some Isopropynol and jobs a good 'un, I've used a little silicon grease on the gears and it runs beautifuly. Careful of too much oil.

  • @davidhartwell4826
    @davidhartwell4826 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find Dapol locomotives are a bit of a lottery as to if or not you get a really good one. I have a Brit which is no problem. Dapol advertise their drive mechanism as Super Creep. You appear to have a good one in that respect so fit the Eezy Shunt couplings, the ones with the springs, to the tender and the first coach and with a decent rake of coaches you should be able to stop just short of the train and then ease up and couple without the coaches moving. Very prototypical and impressive. The wires between loco and tender are a weak point . A spare pair is supplied. The Bulleid light pacifics when they finally arrive wil lhave the motor in the loco. Hopefully they will be a success and Dapol will consider re-tooling previous tender locos: The spring on the coupling sometimes comes off. A spare is supplied but it is useful to know a watchmaker to put it on for you!

  • @AllensTrains
    @AllensTrains 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You might make a video comparing this with the TT:120 example for the benefit of those who have not decided which scale to go for. What are the pros and cons of N compared to TT? T,hanks for all your efforts making these videos.

  • @user-uk8jr6zc9l
    @user-uk8jr6zc9l 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went on Dapol's site and found no repair department or repair suggestions. You are stuck with that lemon my friend, but it is encouraging to see you next acquisition was a runner. Great review as always, Jersey Bill

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They do have a no quibble warranty, so any lemons can be returned for repairs, or most likely a replacement!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @johnscarsandstuff
    @johnscarsandstuff 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sam, nice to see another N gauge review. I was impressed with how the A4 coped with those set track points, did it state the minimum radius on the packaging or instructions?
    My biggest beef with Dapol tender locomotives is the lack of consistency. My first was either a Manor, sold under the Ixon brand, or a B1. Both were "bargain bin" locos, I don't think they were more than £40 each and they were (and still are) great runners. Off the back of those, I bought two more B1s and some Dapol-branded Manors. One B1 died with a puff of smoke (repaired under warranty, but still not a great runner and since sold) and no Manor could match the running of the first one until I bought another Ixon Manor a couple of years ago. I also have an A3 Flying Scotsman that can't keep its valve gear attached and runs like a bag of bolts. I also have a "sold as seen" A1 from Dapol's factory seconds that looks and runs perfectly. It seems like the less you pay, the better Dapol steam locos get. I also have a couple of Halls, again the one I bought new doesn't like left (or is it right) hand curves because the tender drive tries to lift the wheels off the track. The GWR 28xx runs very well, but sounds like it is crushing rocks, even through 1st radius points; which I think is impressive for an 8-coupled locomotive. As I've said before, the loco-drive Dapol Westcountry will be an interesting and significant model.
    I've also got a Dapol 14xx, 45xx and had a Southern 0-4-4T, which could give Hornby's "Smokey Joe" a run for it's money in being the fastest thing on rails. None of them would run slowly and the 14xx could be used to test the sheer strength of rice pudding skin. In all fairness the 0-4-4T was a rescue project, bought cheap as a non-runner and I was pleased to get it working at all.
    I've not had a problem with any of my Dapol pannier tanks (I've got four or five) but I know my experience is not shared by everyone.
    In fairness, I've had a Graham Farish LMS Black 5, that also dropped a screw and had to go back to the factory for a repair. It also needed careful lubrication otherwise the wheels would lock up and get pushed along by the tender-drive. I also had a GF 3MT tank that I returned because it had a wonky wheel and limped down the track. I rejected another 3MT before buying it because it only ran backwards. I did get lucky on my third example, which seems very nice.
    If you can find them; I'd recommend the Graham Farish 5MT; Coronation; or GWR Castle (the modern ones, not the old Poole-type). I'd also recommend the GF Thompson, Hawksworth and Mk1 coaches, but they aren't cheap.

  • @drache444444
    @drache444444 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i really would love to see you review one of the awfully expensive new n-gauge fleischmann BR01 locomotives. but i think theyre a bit out of your usual price range. but it would be interesting to see them compared to these "cheaper" n-gauge locos.

  • @DennisLora2001
    @DennisLora2001 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pretty good rating Sam and nicely done with the review I'm impressed 32:01

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Dennis - yeah it deserved a good score!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @DennisLora2001
      @DennisLora2001 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SamsTrains That's nice and you're welcome Sam

  • @sanguine_potato7524
    @sanguine_potato7524 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Sam, you should check out one of the Rivarossi 3-truck Heisler locos. They are very unique-looking and cool American logging railroad engines with an interesting drivetrain that looks really good while running.

  • @JustinFrazier_360
    @JustinFrazier_360 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So amazing loco sam

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Justin! :D

  • @GP30_Foamer
    @GP30_Foamer 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This review’s kinda special for me because the first video of yours that I ever watched was your review of Hornby’s BR Mallard

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ahh fantastic - yeah I remember that one well... that's a long long time ago!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @willsngaugetrains
    @willsngaugetrains 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, I dont model steam myself, but I find these reviews interesting. I would recommend you look at the Kato class 800, it's better than Hornbys 00 model! I would also recommend Dapol's HST and the Farish class 158.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks a lot Will - and appreciate the suggestion, I'll have to look into that!!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @forrestrobin2712
    @forrestrobin2712 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting! Boy has N gauge improved 😮
    To anyone of my generation - my mates had Grafar, Minitrix and Lima N - this os outstanding. I’d even say you were a bit harsh. Try a 1970’s Grafar Hall or 94XX (they were barely use able) and then come back to your Dapol models. There really is no comparison !

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For God sake don't mention Lima N; awful stuff. All scale dimensions wrong, ran like a bag of bolts, if you could get them running it was usually about 200mph. Utter crap!!!

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mini trix ran like Swiss watches, and built like tanks!!!

  • @simply_randomations
    @simply_randomations 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My thoughts first tiny train and nice amount of detail In my opinion and it runs decently

  • @leelishman7137
    @leelishman7137 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Awesome" watch; only 3,"Awesomes"today,can't be that good!

  • @paulsullivan3291
    @paulsullivan3291 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

  • @Michaelgoestofrance
    @Michaelgoestofrance 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like it when you review something other than OO, Sam. I've got nothing against OO but it's not my personal scale of choice.

  • @star86703
    @star86703 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic A4 n scale engine 😊😊

  • @Vectorspace000
    @Vectorspace000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When you show the website with the silver livery version (Silver King) you comment that you believe it's the exact same model. It is, mostly, but there are two differences.
    Silver King has side valences (you probably noticed that) and it does not have valve gear modelled - not even the eccentric crank/rod. It just has the coupling/connecting rods. I assume it's because there isn't enough clearance with the valences.

  • @hk9blox_record
    @hk9blox_record 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello Sam, would like to see you take a look in Kato's n scale JNR D51 released back in 2016, I owned two of these (D51-200 & D51-498) and I'm pleased to say they're decent performer around the track

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds very interesting - I'll have to see if I can find one!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @christhorpejunction8982
    @christhorpejunction8982 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought one. It broke my heart when it didn’t run, at all!

  • @terrycharleslewis7565
    @terrycharleslewis7565 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for another N review Sam. Suggest reviewing Sonic Models GWR prairie tank next, different maker and type of loco. Regards Terry.

  • @KianWesternRailway
    @KianWesternRailway 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please can do a industrial running session

  • @Taggart00
    @Taggart00 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My thoughts are I don't model N... Although I do like the large scale layouts people make as you can fit so much more in the same space as OO or O

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah absolutely - some of the N scale layouts out there are utterly amazing!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @rootersairforce7648
    @rootersairforce7648 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s great to see you branching out to TT and N, but are any O gauge reviews in the pipeline?

  • @timbervalleyproductions
    @timbervalleyproductions 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid Sam! Quite a nice loco I will admit though I do think the tender driven design is a bit naff for such an expensive loco - especially when smaller locos like the pannier have a motor in them too!!

    • @blackjockofmangertonpele
      @blackjockofmangertonpele 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it would be very interesting to have a tender-driven 0-6-0PT!

  • @modelrailfan37
    @modelrailfan37 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good review! I haven’t been too impressed by Dapol’s N Stuff going off you and others reviews, maybe try more Graham Farish (aka Bachmann)? Sonic Models just released a N Gauge Large Prairie as well!!

  • @mikeking2539
    @mikeking2539 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The metal Names and World Speep record details are a nice touch, but yah come on Dapol, even in 2012 they could have had the motor in the loco, it can't be that hard to do!

  • @RichardBough-yk2ei
    @RichardBough-yk2ei 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sam if it only had 1 set of driving wheels it weight even less. I agree with you 100% motor should be in the Engine and not the Tender

  • @Gatherleymodeller.
    @Gatherleymodeller. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really want to become your chief mechanical engineer!

    • @jackstrains4468
      @jackstrains4468 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you so much! You'd be very welcome :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @jbhtrams
    @jbhtrams 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have seen a conversion done to Dapol locos using a piece of wire and drilled beads at either end, with bars through them.
    The ones I saw had a shortened drawbar too (closer coupled and the new drive shaft can hardly be seen!!!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds interesting - I'd like to see that done!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @andrewbrown4985
    @andrewbrown4985 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you might try a graham farish N scale model to see if they have a better quality and mechanism.

  • @tomscameras
    @tomscameras 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank for a nice N scale review. It's actually interesting that British N scale is not thaaaaat much smaller than TT scale ...
    Actually about some technical details, I would rather disagree: I do think N scale models need traction tires ... it really helps a lot if you want to manage grades! I also think it's better to have gears driving more than one axle ... it really increases the longevity of the whole thing. N scale coupling rods are tiny and tolerances are never as tight as they should be in a perfect world ...

  • @ChristopherDennie-tc5jt
    @ChristopherDennie-tc5jt 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as I’m concerned, swiveling and sliding trailing trucks is fairly common, especially when you’re talking about long o gauge locomotives trying to navigate o27 diameter curves. Almost every o27 locomotive I have with a trailing truck, it swivels and slides, and it really does help them tackle tight curves that no locomotives of their size should realistically be rolling around, although I guess blind center drivers is another helpful factor.

  • @WCMLtrainspotter
    @WCMLtrainspotter 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How coincidental, I saw an A4 today!

  • @PaulB-justme
    @PaulB-justme 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We were discussing this a few weeks ago at Swindon Model Railway Club, amongst the N gauge modellers. We all agreed that we preferred the older steam locos, and the Union Mills locos. They may lack the fine detailing of the new locos, but they are heavier and pull a decent rake of coaches or trucks behind them!

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had a big n gauge layout when I was a kid, most of the locos were Minitrix including two Britannias. I have the fondest memories of them and Minitrix, they just kept going.

    • @PaulB-justme
      @PaulB-justme 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @itsconnorstime I have a Minitrix A4 Sir Nigel Gresley, and it pulls an 8 coach rake round the club show layout for as long as we want!

    • @randytaylor1258
      @randytaylor1258 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a little gem of a loco! More N-scale, please.

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still on my impression that the problem you met with the Dapol Britannia is the tight radius of your curves. Mine runs fine on 280mm curves as a minimum. Same as my 9F, which does not prevent me from gambling with the Hornby OO model (I won twice !).
    Well, seems all the Dapol steam engines have the same problem : circonvoluted mechanisms. My 9F also have one of those ##### driveshafts, and useless gears galore. And my electric toothbrush is less noisy than this engine. Dapol would have to retool their chassis someday for this category of engines. This A4 is just acceptable by my standards.
    By the way, I have in N scale a class 22 and a class 35 by Dapol, plus a class 122, and they runs fine. Maybe something to test for you someday ?
    About Dapol, I can guess we won't be waiting a long time for your review of the Hawthorn Leslie in OO... Mine has been ordered yesterday.

  • @1f21lauhinfung7
    @1f21lauhinfung7 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It reminds me of Spencer the private engine from T&F

  • @AllensTrains
    @AllensTrains 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You might make a video comparing this to the TT:120 example for the benefit of those

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A cute A4 in this scale Sam, but to be fair, there seem to be constant functional niggles and hick-ups which would drive us insane quickly really. Perhaps all of those could be cleared somehow but this one just troubles us in terms of convincing tbh. Cheerio.

  • @lonewolf4215
    @lonewolf4215 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Video review of the mallard coming out on the 3rd july, I see what you did there Sam

  • @chasesrailwaylinesrr6447
    @chasesrailwaylinesrr6447 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's just 1 thing I question Why is it tender drive? Bachmann in the 1980s were making loco powered 0-4-0s in N Scale, And remember the n scale Pannier tank?

  • @johnscarsandstuff
    @johnscarsandstuff 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about a comparison of the A4 in OO, TT and N?

  • @ollytheowl
    @ollytheowl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello Sam , similar issues with the School's class, especially the tender to loco cables. Suggest the new Sonic prairie. Mine runs well and has good reviews on the N Gauge forum

  • @robertlucido3686
    @robertlucido3686 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will you be getting some Bachmann American N gauge steam locomotives

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Lovely Little Loco 🤔🚂🚂🚂

  • @jxxgames
    @jxxgames 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want to switch TT:120 so bad by Hornby barely keeps up with it. If we can get Bachmann to join the range and possibly Dapol we can have some other and better engines

  • @briancooper562
    @briancooper562 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problems both your N locos have is in the trailing single axle bogie. It is too light. I have a SP cab forward in Ho with a single axle bogie which cannot go backwards as this bogie derails until load was added. This problem increases with any drag in its sliding pivot a single axle does not easily steer itself when pushed if it is too light or unloaded in model form. In real life the bogies front and back, take some of the locomotives weight through a bearing surface.

  • @tobiasbiteofficial
    @tobiasbiteofficial 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if Sam will make a video that is in 4:3 size so someone can put it on a VHS tape. Maybe… 🤔

  • @darreno9874
    @darreno9874 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's a shame when companies dispatch models that are so substandard. Back in the 1980s Marklin could produce a z gauge loco with the motor in the loco not the tender and there was no glue splatter or paint defects neither was there poor painted running gear, and finally it stayed on the track.

  • @rocketchen2890
    @rocketchen2890 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Highly recommend trying out graham farish’s merchant navy
    A lovely loco with a decent weight
    no traction tires
    Most importantly
    A very smooth and quiet runner
    You definitely will love that engine

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh that does sound amazing - I will have to look that one up!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @Alextrains502
    @Alextrains502 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sam willing you be reviewing the new hornby a4 Golden Fleece

  • @TenCJones
    @TenCJones 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not a bad model I suppose. For those people who like to fiddle and tweak to get the best performance I suppose these could provide some entertainment.
    I have an ancient Graham Farish oo scale Black Five that was made in the fifties. It's a great loco and is all diecast and looks a lot like the Hornby Dublo 8f. It has the motor in the tender driving the engine with a shaft just like this Mallard. However the locomotive (without tender) weighs 480g and has traction tyres!
    Thanks for the video Sam. Greetings from Canada.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks a lot for sharing - yeah there is scope for some tweaking if there are issues! Blimey, I don't think I've ever tried a Grarfar OO loco - might need to seek one out!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @scottlewis775
      @scottlewis775 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@SamsTrains Their OO items are all very old - we’re talking 1950s,60s. Graham Farish made a 94xx pannier, the Black 5, an as-built Merchant Navy pacific, a GWR King, and a GWR prairie.
      Their tender locos indeed used a tender drive connected to the loco via a shaft. Fun fact, I believe their early Black 5 (might have been the whole run but I’m not sure) had a two-pole motor. Many owners eventually swapped them for Triang X04s; there’s a clip of a Graham Farish Black 5 running on an X04 on TH-cam. They of course don’t compare to modern running standards, but, they have a charm absent from many contemporary models.
      It would undoubtedly be a project to find a GF OO loco in good enough shape to examine, but it would be awesome to see you take a look at one. Vintage locos are always fascinating.

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My small N Gauge collection isn't Dapol, it's Graham Farish, so I wouldn't know. Basically, my Graham Farish collection consists of a GWR Large Prairie Tank Engine and King Richard 2nd, two open wagons and closed vans (thanks to Alfie for sending them to me), a GWR Toad Van, three Chocolate & Cream Mk. 1 coaches, a Pullman carriage and a Union Pacific Railroad Caboose. They won't be tested till November, as you know, and I'm nervous about the first test run. Any advice?

  • @JoshuaEllison-z6q
    @JoshuaEllison-z6q 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello Sam. I’m a model railway beginner and have loved the hobby with my grandad since I was four ( I am now thirteen). Please could you recommend any starter sets for me and where to get them. Auctions giveaways etc
    Thanks and loving the vids keep it up🚂🚈🚅🚄🚝

  • @111greatbear3
    @111greatbear3 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who has a lot of N gauge I straight up avoid dapol N gauge steam locomotives due to using a non UK standard design for N gauge tender drives

  • @stealthninja5
    @stealthninja5 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    29:49~29:51- Kamikaze! Boom!
    Coaches: Oi! We're passenger cars, not trucks! 😠
    Have to admit, the only major flaw on n gauge models would be poor coupling up.

  • @m.l.vanzoen236
    @m.l.vanzoen236 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually you should try Fleischmann 714575, but I am afraid the price scares the hell out of you. It is DCC, tender driven on 4 axles.

  • @jbhtrams
    @jbhtrams 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It could be the Britannia doesn't like setrack small curves? You never saw Brits on dock railways. My N Scale railway in the 1970s/80s had 3ft (large rad curves) and was an inverted figure of 8 double track (96ft run double track). My Minitrix Britannia ran beautifully round it but setrack curves, abysmal. Most 70s/80s N Gauge steamers hated them too. The diesels eat everything up; Minitrix 27s, Warships and anything Graham Farish didn't mind them.
    Slightly larger rad curves should make a difference!
    John Harrison. Wirral.
    PS. Layout's gone now, but I still have all my stock; all in working order!!!
    Jbh

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sam, when you will review the Dapol N M7? I know you have it.

  • @lewisstevens6028
    @lewisstevens6028 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had the silver king. I fitted a decoder to it and it burnt out the decoder. (Model was brand new) I got it the model replaced under warranty with a new decoder but that was the last straw for n gauge with me.