THIS is exactly why I say that the current level of play isn't 'ol school comparable & MOST current ballers couldn't last with the physicality of the past.
oh and by the way, if you care to check, if you look at timmy's jumper numbers they are not good... he shot a pretty low percentage from any kind of distance at all and YES, including his famous bank shots.... we love them, so we remember them as more potent than they were, the percentage on them was actually pretty low
What's old isnt always gold. Duncan had better teams and coaching. Better defense, athleticism and lowpost offense. EVERYTHING ELSE Jokic laps Duncan is.
I’m a huge Duncan fan but we need to stop praising the old time players to god status. I’m taking jokic over Timmy 10/10. There’s absolutely nothing Timmy does better than jokic other than defense
Jokic definitely has more skill than Timmy but Timmy was asked to do different things as well. He focused more on defense and still had a lot of good scoring offense. His accolades and accomplishments are what validate his style of play in all honesty. To me it’s sad how people are so hasty to put other players in front of Duncan, I disagree with Giannis being over him just like I disagree with dirk being over him. However I’ll say joker is definitely a very close second place. He’s an absolutely insane player, I’ll take jokic over dirk, but Timmy not just yet. I say let’s wait and see if he gets 1 more championship for that comparison in all honesty. But talent wise alone I’ll say he’s a better offensive player. But if we’re going off of talent alone then more people should have wilt as the goat.
Missing 3 years of playoffs is not bad for Jokic. Duncan played with Tony and Many who were 2 of the best players on the planet. Give those guys to Jokic they are winning championships every single year. And this is the Timmy, Tony, Manu fan talking. I think them winning only 4 championships together was a disappointment.
at this point?... better than everyone.... it's hard for people to accept but it's an obvious truth... dude is performing like no one we've ever seen.... i have never seen one person have so much impact on a team, and i mean no one... not even MJ... maybe we need to draw this separation actually... maybe he isn't the best player, but he is THE MOST IMPACTFUL PLAYER i've ever seen... and it's really not even close... he transcends the game... it's a shame they are wasting his peak years, if you gave him a top 10 roster, he wins the championship every year.... but they literally have a bottom 5 roster plus jokic every year
I have a hard time putting contempory players above all-time greats. But Jokic is on his way. Maybe in a few seasons I will be ready to put him above Timmy, but not yet. He still has work to do. Only thing you said I object to was right at the end, saying Jokic is a top ten player right now (meaining in today's league). This is kind of insulting to the best player on the planet.
Appreciate your feedback and I agree. Now what I said about him being a top 10 player currently I dont disagree he’s the best player in the league rn but I put it that way bcuz I mentioned that Timmy is a top 10 player all time and it’s a difference. No doubt he’s number one rn for sure but he hasn’t done enough to be compared to The Big Fundamental
@ duncan was old and jokic was very young. Do I think jokic would destroy Timmy? No i don’t. But I also don’t think Timmy would have stopped jokic. Like I said, y’all turn the older players into god like figures. Jokic would have dropped 30 points on Timmy.
@tommartyn524 the point I was trying to make with this video is that longevity and consistency makes u a all time great not just a few seasons. Joker will be one of the greats but he’s not there yet. He needs to learn how to play on the other side of the ball. He’s the top guy rn for sure but I don’t like comparing players in this era to previous eras. Ppl in this era find ways to discredit the previous era and not give them their respect and that’s not fair. Not saying u doing that I’m speaking in general. Appreciate your feedback tho💯
Joker rings dont match sorry we gotta stop the is greatest talk bs jamal murray carried the team 😂😂😂 when he came back at also they gotta kick out demarcus dwight and others so he can look great big difference yeah he studied the game on how to get triple doubles cool but russbrook was doin for years 5 years 4 yrs ina row not one 3 mvps kd not one 3 mvps james harden not 1 3 mvps 😂😂😂 kobe not 1 3 mvps but joker hmmm yeah we know racism play apart they robbed shai alexander
Jokic was 30/13.5/9.5 on .545% FG in those playoffs, and Murray was 26.1/5.7/7.1 on .473% FG. How braindead do you have to be to claim Murray carried the team? I agreed with what was said in the video, but when the channel hearts this ass take, I can't take him seriously.
@@albertdaley9093 I'm literally arguing with a wall... I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MVP, I'M TALKING ABOUT THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP RUN Explain to me how the numbers I wrote show that Murray carried Jokic.
Courtside heat, need to take a courtside Seat 💺 😭
Facts brother💯💯💯😂😂😂
THIS is exactly why I say that the current level of play isn't 'ol school comparable & MOST current ballers couldn't last with the physicality of the past.
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oh and by the way, if you care to check, if you look at timmy's jumper numbers they are not good... he shot a pretty low percentage from any kind of distance at all and YES, including his famous bank shots.... we love them, so we remember them as more potent than they were, the percentage on them was actually pretty low
What's old isnt always gold.
Duncan had better teams and coaching. Better defense, athleticism and lowpost offense. EVERYTHING ELSE Jokic laps Duncan is.
I’m a huge Duncan fan but we need to stop praising the old time players to god status. I’m taking jokic over Timmy 10/10. There’s absolutely nothing Timmy does better than jokic other than defense
Jokic definitely has more skill than Timmy but Timmy was asked to do different things as well. He focused more on defense and still had a lot of good scoring offense. His accolades and accomplishments are what validate his style of play in all honesty. To me it’s sad how people are so hasty to put other players in front of Duncan, I disagree with Giannis being over him just like I disagree with dirk being over him. However I’ll say joker is definitely a very close second place. He’s an absolutely insane player, I’ll take jokic over dirk, but Timmy not just yet. I say let’s wait and see if he gets 1 more championship for that comparison in all honesty. But talent wise alone I’ll say he’s a better offensive player. But if we’re going off of talent alone then more people should have wilt as the goat.
Missing 3 years of playoffs is not bad for Jokic. Duncan played with Tony and Many who were 2 of the best players on the planet. Give those guys to Jokic they are winning championships every single year.
And this is the Timmy, Tony, Manu fan talking. I think them winning only 4 championships together was a disappointment.
at this point?... better than everyone.... it's hard for people to accept but it's an obvious truth... dude is performing like no one we've ever seen.... i have never seen one person have so much impact on a team, and i mean no one... not even MJ... maybe we need to draw this separation actually... maybe he isn't the best player, but he is THE MOST IMPACTFUL PLAYER i've ever seen... and it's really not even close... he transcends the game... it's a shame they are wasting his peak years, if you gave him a top 10 roster, he wins the championship every year.... but they literally have a bottom 5 roster plus jokic every year
I have a hard time putting contempory players above all-time greats. But Jokic is on his way. Maybe in a few seasons I will be ready to put him above Timmy, but not yet. He still has work to do. Only thing you said I object to was right at the end, saying Jokic is a top ten player right now (meaining in today's league). This is kind of insulting to the best player on the planet.
Appreciate your feedback and I agree. Now what I said about him being a top 10 player currently I dont disagree he’s the best player in the league rn but I put it that way bcuz I mentioned that Timmy is a top 10 player all time and it’s a difference. No doubt he’s number one rn for sure but he hasn’t done enough to be compared to The Big Fundamental
Duncan can guard Jokic, Jokic can't guard Duncan!! 1st team All NBA as a rookie, #1 overall pick.... We dont even need to continue
That part! Duncan top 10 all time! His resume speaks for itself💯💯🫡🫡
Duncan and jokic played against each other and jokic dropped 30 on Duncan. Stop it.
That was year 19. Duncan was no longer in his prime. I hope you’re trolling and not agreeing with this tweet about him being better than Duncan
@ duncan was old and jokic was very young. Do I think jokic would destroy Timmy? No i don’t. But I also don’t think Timmy would have stopped jokic. Like I said, y’all turn the older players into god like figures. Jokic would have dropped 30 points on Timmy.
@tommartyn524 the point I was trying to make with this video is that longevity and consistency makes u a all time great not just a few seasons. Joker will be one of the greats but he’s not there yet. He needs to learn how to play on the other side of the ball. He’s the top guy rn for sure but I don’t like comparing players in this era to previous eras. Ppl in this era find ways to discredit the previous era and not give them their respect and that’s not fair. Not saying u doing that I’m speaking in general. Appreciate your feedback tho💯
Joker rings dont match sorry we gotta stop the is greatest talk bs jamal murray carried the team 😂😂😂 when he came back at also they gotta kick out demarcus dwight and others so he can look great big difference yeah he studied the game on how to get triple doubles cool but russbrook was doin for years 5 years 4 yrs ina row not one 3 mvps kd not one 3 mvps james harden not 1 3 mvps 😂😂😂 kobe not 1 3 mvps but joker hmmm yeah we know racism play apart they robbed shai alexander
Jokic was 30/13.5/9.5 on .545% FG in those playoffs, and Murray was 26.1/5.7/7.1 on .473% FG.
How braindead do you have to be to claim Murray carried the team?
I agreed with what was said in the video, but when the channel hearts this ass take, I can't take him seriously.
@dismantledbrain5910 russ and them been doin that jd been doin that Steph been doin that stop
@@albertdaley9093 Doing what??
I'm not arguing the MVP bs, I'm talking about your statement that Murray carried the Nuggets to a ring.
@dismantledbrain5910 yeah we cant talk you obviously ignorant to the racism part
@@albertdaley9093 I'm literally arguing with a wall...
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MVP, I'M TALKING ABOUT THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP RUN
Explain to me how the numbers I wrote show that Murray carried Jokic.