I really appreciate your easy to understand approach to all things Starlink and no self promotion nonsense as some other Starlink "gurus" insist on. Cheers from Utah
As long as I have used the internet, I’ve always found that an aftermarket or 3rd party router is going to be better than the router that your ISP will provide period. So no surprise for me. I use a Starlink mini and the day i used my old TP link router with it was the day i saw true Starlink performance
My decision to buy a third-party router was forced by my inability to connect a Glance LED ticker to WIFI through the stock Starlink Gen 3 router. I chose the Netgear Nighthawk 7 purposely overkilling the needs of my tiny home but also in anticipation for installing outdoor security cameras. I hope I made a good choice. My new router has just been delivered. I'm watching your video to set it up so I can give the Glance another chance.
For me it wasn't so much a speed-performance issue regarding Starlink's integrated router, rather it was that I needed to spread the wifi over an entire house, and wanted to do it via mesh. Thus I opted to use an Orbi router / mesh wifi system.
Really great video! I'm needing those advanced features that my 2nd gen Starlink router does not have for doing my home lab. I have a 6e router coming that that has DD-WRT already installed. (It's a Geek thing lol) It will be interesting to see how it will work overall, since my house exterior walls are rather thick, being ICF block. Cheers from the remote mountains of Colorado!
For me, the selling point of the Gen3 router is the qos fq codel that Starlink paired with it. As far as I'm aware, the qos manages the connection for all users and balances the bandwidth between them so all users have enough bandwidth. Let's say you start a download on a random router without that feature, it will max out the download bandwidth for the connection as it tries to complete the download, everyone else on the internet is lagging or buffering or connection just stops working which can be very annoying. One of the main things I've seen in reviews I've read is how impressed people are that Starlink can handle multiple users at one time seamlessly, that I believe is due in part to the starlink router itself. I also think Starlink somehow lowers the bufferbloat as well, that may be from the router too, I'd like to see a starlink router vs a random router with a bufferbloat test. Thank you for the videos! 😁
Great video. I ordered the Starlink Standard Kit a few days ago, but my long term plan is to network my home with a system based on Ubiquiti Dream Machine gateway, wifi access points and security cameras
I just installed Starlink Gen 3 and connected its router to my legacy Eero three node mesh which covers my house and outdoor spaces. For starters, I didn’t bypass the Starlink router and my speed tests from either WiFi are comparable. I will eventually bypass it but my eeros do well with it’s host router Wi-Fi enabled.
Thanks for the video, exactly what I was looking for, I have Gen 2 Starlink router and I was looking for something that could extend the distance of the WiFi , are the eero extenders connected to the eero router through WiFi?
I don't personally use Sonos, but I've researched this before for other people that have asked. Using a 3rd party router would allow you to connect again. They have a lot more networking options and can adjust for things that Sonos needs, while Starlink can't.
Google Nest mesh would work great! I’ve seen multiple people recommend Googles mesh system over the years, so I think it’s a tried and true system at this point. TP Link Deco is another.
What happens if you connect Google mesh to gen 3 SL router and not use bypass mode? That's how I am set up right now. I have 3 mesh extensions connected so it is all over my house. Would I do better to bypass?
It can work if you get the Business plan ($20 more per month) and set up a public IP address with Starlink. Otherwise you are correct, Starlink uses CGNAT with dynamic IP’s that are not publicly accessible.
@@StarlinkHardware Understood. Thank you very much. I checked the plans on Starlink page. it has Residential, Roam, Roam Global and some Mobile Priorities. There is no Business plan! Does it mean that the hardware should also be changed?
Quick question. Is it possible to use both the starlink router along with an aftermarket router. I dont want to turn off the starlink router and use both of the routers at the same time.
Can you or anyone help me with a solution, to setup my starlink router or any other router such that I can set different or unique passwords per device on the same router... So that every single device will require or be assigned a unique password to gain access. Any recommendations or making a video on it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
My ps portal struggles to connect and stream games with my regular starlink router. I wanna get a gaming router that works with starlink. Any suggestions
The app just got updated and it looks like they took it out of the development version. So not quite ready for release, and it looks like they accidentally gave us a preview of what is to come.
I have a Starlink Gen 3 router and a 3 pack of TPlink Deco X50-POEs. I am currently running one X50 as the router and have Starlink bypassed on a 5 acre property. Would I be better off using the Starlink modem and running the three X50s in Access Point mode? TIA
I'm currently using a combination of deco m5's and X55 pro's on a gated community about 1.5 acre. I found that in bypass mode, the mesh wifi became unstable and the decos were constantly disconnected. When i used the starlink router, and used the decos as Access Points, the entire system was stable.
Can you setup to have two network providers with starlink as one of the two to split the use where i have monthly limits that i hit a few times a year. I also want backup for outages with the first provider that happen a couple times a month in winter weather.
Hello, We have the gen 3 kit, but I enable the bands and split them. I didn't put the gen3 in the bypass mode but i also hooked up a 3rd party router to one of the ports on the back of the gen3 router. Is this the wrong way to hook up?
I have Starlink Gen 3 with similar results.(150mbps down). I just bought a ubiquity edge-router 6p. It has POE 24v capability that i can enable on each port. Thinking i can do away with the SL router totally… but not sure of gen 3 POE requirements. POE, POE+ or POE++ to power it.
Hi Bro My Gen3 router does not output the WiFi network SSID anymore, the router is in a damaged state, in such a situation, if I install and use the eero pro 6E now, can I get it?
If the Ethernet ports have internet access, yes you could still use it. There is still a chance those ports work even though the WiFi part of the router is broken.
@@2wheellifestyle234any asus router with qos and no it won’t help with ping. Ping is how long the internet takes to hit you router. Nothing will change that it will lower lag though
@@stevemourits6440 I already play with Ethernet cable connected to my system. so it would pretty much be pointless to upgrade my router? My biggest complaint with gaming on Starlink is the spikes I would say I get a spike every couple minutes.
I'm from Sri lanka I'm using a fiber optics internet and I'm paying 50$ for 420GB data pack for month the speed is 300 down and 150 up and the ping is 7 locked the problem is I can't use Bypass or Bridge on My ISP router so I can't use gaming router with which is sucks because I can't use the features of gaming router. Starlink is not available in my country right but I'd love to get a Starlink gen 3 kit so I can use gaming router and I can get unlimited data pack with it
Yep, starlink routers suck big time, worse routers i have ever had from ANY internet supplier. Changed mine for a deco mesh and now no problems anywhere in my house or Garden.
TP-Link Deco is one I hear recommended all the time. Tons of good options out there. I’m actually getting ready to do a review/test with one of their outdoor range extenders!
I have a starlink router and I agree they are terrible routers but after watching this video it's plain to see that it's not worth going 3rd party at least not with this Eero pro model
The “Enterprise” version can also be purchased which has a POE injector supply with no router in the kit, so you can use your own. The supply is also rated for more power, and can theoretically help with reliability. Any POE supply needs to be rated at least 150 watts for this dish.
@StarlinkHardware That wasn't available at the time I ordered mine or I would've gotten it. However, in my camper I went with one of the 12V POE converter units. Installing it this weekend. I'm an IT engineer by trade, so the less crap to break the better. 🤣
I bought it a few hours after it came out! Can't wait to do a review on it. The shipping timeline says late November so it might be a few weeks before it arrives.
So confused. So you don’t tie a mesh system into the router? I thought a mesh replaced repeaters etc… not routers? Are these interchangeable? 😭😭😭 Why is/are all these terms and devices so confusing for non tech ppl… I’m out in rural nowhereville and need to get wifi to a mother in law building out back. The more I look up, the more confused I am.
With Starlink the factory router powers the dish so it has to stay hooked up. If you buy a 3rd party mesh system the main 3rd party mesh router will plug into the Starlink router. The other mesh routers can talk to the main router wirelessly.
Anyone using Starlink in Central Indiana? I need faster more reliable internet, but when I asked my neighbor she said she was getting 80 Mbps down going through trees.
Starlink has a handy speed map at www.Starlink.com/map that you can check real user speeds for any state. It gives you an average range so you can expect generally somewhere in the middle during peak hours. Towards the high end of it outside of peak hours.
I really appreciate your easy to understand approach to all things Starlink and no self promotion nonsense as some other Starlink "gurus" insist on. Cheers from Utah
Thanks for the feedback! I can ramble sometimes but generally try to keep the videos shorter and engaging.
As long as I have used the internet, I’ve always found that an aftermarket or 3rd party router is going to be better than the router that your ISP will provide period. So no surprise for me.
I use a Starlink mini and the day i used my old TP link router with it was the day i saw true Starlink performance
My decision to buy a third-party router was forced by my inability to connect a Glance LED ticker to WIFI through the stock Starlink Gen 3 router.
I chose the Netgear Nighthawk 7 purposely overkilling the needs of my tiny home but also in anticipation for installing outdoor security cameras.
I hope I made a good choice. My new router has just been delivered. I'm watching your video to set it up so I can give the Glance another chance.
For me it wasn't so much a speed-performance issue regarding Starlink's integrated router, rather it was that I needed to spread the wifi over an entire house, and wanted to do it via mesh. Thus I opted to use an Orbi router / mesh wifi system.
I believe the Starlink WiFi router will mesh with additional Starlink WiFi routers.
That's exactly the setup I'm going to do this weekend. How did it work out for you?
Does Orbu router allow you to install a vpn?
Really great video! I'm needing those advanced features that my 2nd gen Starlink router does not have for doing my home lab. I have a 6e router coming that that has DD-WRT already installed. (It's a Geek thing lol)
It will be interesting to see how it will work overall, since my house exterior walls are rather thick, being ICF block.
Cheers from the remote mountains of Colorado!
For me, the selling point of the Gen3 router is the qos fq codel that Starlink paired with it. As far as I'm aware, the qos manages the connection for all users and balances the bandwidth between them so all users have enough bandwidth. Let's say you start a download on a random router without that feature, it will max out the download bandwidth for the connection as it tries to complete the download, everyone else on the internet is lagging or buffering or connection just stops working which can be very annoying. One of the main things I've seen in reviews I've read is how impressed people are that Starlink can handle multiple users at one time seamlessly, that I believe is due in part to the starlink router itself. I also think Starlink somehow lowers the bufferbloat as well, that may be from the router too, I'd like to see a starlink router vs a random router with a bufferbloat test. Thank you for the videos! 😁
Approved, In My Country We Already Used Third Party As A Router or For long Coverage of Starlink Wifi and Its Works At All ❤🎉
Great video.
I ordered the Starlink Standard Kit a few days ago, but my long term plan is to network my home with a system based on Ubiquiti Dream Machine gateway, wifi access points and security cameras
That sounds like a good plan. Ubiquiti makes top of the line gear.
I just installed Starlink Gen 3 and connected its router to my legacy Eero three node mesh which covers my house and outdoor spaces. For starters, I didn’t bypass the Starlink router and my speed tests from either WiFi are comparable. I will eventually bypass it but my eeros do well with it’s host router Wi-Fi enabled.
Thanks for the video, exactly what I was looking for, I have Gen 2 Starlink router and I was looking for something that could extend the distance of the WiFi , are the eero extenders connected to the eero router through WiFi?
Yes, the eero routers are wireless, but they can also be wired if you prefer. Same with the Starlink Gen 3 routers.
doesn't it make a difference in what type of ethernet cable you use? I know it does with thunderbolt cables
Shouldn’t matter if you are using an Ethernet cable made in the last 20 years or so.
Great video!! Question;
Starlink is not compatible with Sonos so will using the third party router with Starlink solve the issue with Sonos?
I don't personally use Sonos, but I've researched this before for other people that have asked. Using a 3rd party router would allow you to connect again. They have a lot more networking options and can adjust for things that Sonos needs, while Starlink can't.
@ Thank you!!!
Same results for Google Mesh or is the Eero a much better option?
Google Nest mesh would work great! I’ve seen multiple people recommend Googles mesh system over the years, so I think it’s a tried and true system at this point. TP Link Deco is another.
What happens if you connect Google mesh to gen 3 SL router and not use bypass mode? That's how I am set up right now. I have 3 mesh extensions connected so it is all over my house. Would I do better to bypass?
Correct me if I'm wrong, port forwording does not work with Starlink, even in bypass mode.
It can work if you get the Business plan ($20 more per month) and set up a public IP address with Starlink. Otherwise you are correct, Starlink uses CGNAT with dynamic IP’s that are not publicly accessible.
@@StarlinkHardware Understood. Thank you very much.
I checked the plans on Starlink page. it has Residential, Roam, Roam Global and some Mobile Priorities. There is no Business plan!
Does it mean that the hardware should also be changed?
Should I purchase an eero Wifi 7 instead of purchasing a Starlink if i want better internet service in my home for my television and cell phones?
I would say start with Starlink and the included router. If you need more coverage, consider upgrading to the eero mesh system.
Quick question. Is it possible to use both the starlink router along with an aftermarket router. I dont want to turn off the starlink router and use both of the routers at the same time.
Yes you could. I recommend just turning the aftermarket router on access point mode so it just repeats the Starlink Wifi.
Can you or anyone help me with a solution, to setup my starlink router or any other router such that I can set different or unique passwords per device on the same router...
So that every single device will require or be assigned a unique password to gain access.
Any recommendations or making a video on it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
My ps portal struggles to connect and stream games with my regular starlink router. I wanna get a gaming router that works with starlink. Any suggestions
Did you ever find one that works?
can i use network switch and use it for multiple access points?
Yep!
hey any updates on the tweet that you put for the subnets and guest networks? is it good?
The app just got updated and it looks like they took it out of the development version. So not quite ready for release, and it looks like they accidentally gave us a preview of what is to come.
@@StarlinkHardware oh ok thanks
I have a Starlink Gen 3 router and a 3 pack of TPlink Deco X50-POEs. I am currently running one X50 as the router and have Starlink bypassed on a 5 acre property.
Would I be better off using the Starlink modem and running the three X50s in Access Point mode? TIA
I'm currently using a combination of deco m5's and X55 pro's on a gated community about 1.5 acre. I found that in bypass mode, the mesh wifi became unstable and the decos were constantly disconnected. When i used the starlink router, and used the decos as Access Points, the entire system was stable.
Can you re-enable the factory router after you bypass it?
Yes, you have to do a factory reset to get it out of bypass mode.
Can you setup to have two network providers with starlink as one of the two to split the use where i have monthly limits that i hit a few times a year. I also want backup for outages with the first provider that happen a couple times a month in winter weather.
I recommend checking out my Peplink backup video tutorial, sounds exactly like what you need: th-cam.com/video/_eyMkBSnFkE/w-d-xo.html
Hello,
We have the gen 3 kit, but I enable the bands and split them. I didn't put the gen3 in the bypass mode but i also hooked up a 3rd party router to one of the ports on the back of the gen3 router. Is this the wrong way to hook up?
Nope, should work fine! If you aren’t noticing any issues I don’t see a reason to bypass.
@ no issues
Can you open your NAT with third party router? My xbox says moderate with the GEN 3 startling router.
Thank you!
I have Starlink Gen 3 with similar results.(150mbps down). I just bought a ubiquity edge-router 6p. It has POE 24v capability that i can enable on each port. Thinking i can do away with the SL router totally… but not sure of gen 3 POE requirements. POE, POE+ or POE++ to power it.
Gen 3 can use beyond 100 watts, not sure if the Ubiquity POE can supply that.
Hello
What is a good mesh node for starlink Gen 3
The Starlink Gen 3 mesh router is good and it's seamless plug and play! I also like my Amazon eero system if you want to go 3rd party.
Would you be able to do a video with peplink?
I did a review of that router here: th-cam.com/video/_eyMkBSnFkE/w-d-xo.html
Is your phone connected with you eero trhought 5.0 GHz connection?
Yes I’m connected on 5ghz.
Hi Bro
My Gen3 router does not output the WiFi network SSID anymore, the router is in a damaged state, in such a situation, if I install and use the eero pro 6E now, can I get it?
If the Ethernet ports have internet access, yes you could still use it. There is still a chance those ports work even though the WiFi part of the router is broken.
Will I get better ping/latency if I use a third party router? If so which router is best for gaming?
Asus router for gaming
@ which asus works best and will it actually help ping ?
@@2wheellifestyle234any asus router with qos and no it won’t help with ping. Ping is how long the internet takes to hit you router. Nothing will change that it will lower lag though
@2wheellifestyle234 wont help ping. Help alot with lag. I play call of duty and sit at 35-50 ping. Also helps with the wifi distance immensely
@@stevemourits6440 I already play with Ethernet cable connected to my system. so it would pretty much be pointless to upgrade my router? My biggest complaint with gaming on Starlink is the spikes I would say I get a spike every couple minutes.
I'm from Sri lanka I'm using a fiber optics internet and I'm paying 50$ for 420GB data pack for month the speed is 300 down and 150 up and the ping is 7 locked the problem is I can't use Bypass or Bridge on My ISP router so I can't use gaming router with which is sucks because I can't use the features of gaming router. Starlink is not available in my country right but I'd love to get a Starlink gen 3 kit so I can use gaming router and I can get unlimited data pack with it
Was a great video, can be bested if you would please wear a Member's Only jacket.
Stay classy.
shush
Yep, starlink routers suck big time, worse routers i have ever had from ANY internet supplier. Changed mine for a deco mesh and now no problems anywhere in my house or Garden.
TP-Link Deco is one I hear recommended all the time. Tons of good options out there. I’m actually getting ready to do a review/test with one of their outdoor range extenders!
@@StarlinkHardware yes, I'm using the XE75. They are so simple to configure just follow the app.
I have a starlink router and I agree they are terrible routers but after watching this video it's plain to see that it's not worth going 3rd party at least not with this Eero pro model
You can remove the SL router altogether and use a POE injector plugged into the dish then plug into a real router.
The “Enterprise” version can also be purchased which has a POE injector supply with no router in the kit, so you can use your own. The supply is also rated for more power, and can theoretically help with reliability. Any POE supply needs to be rated at least 150 watts for this dish.
@StarlinkHardware That wasn't available at the time I ordered mine or I would've gotten it. However, in my camper I went with one of the 12V POE converter units. Installing it this weekend. I'm an IT engineer by trade, so the less crap to break the better. 🤣
Would using a POE for a total bypass increase speeds? How would you aim the dish if the Starlink router was no longer being used?
@MD-gq6iy No speed increase. You can still use the app when you use a 3rd party router.
There's a new starlink back pack
I bought it a few hours after it came out! Can't wait to do a review on it. The shipping timeline says late November so it might be a few weeks before it arrives.
So confused. So you don’t tie a mesh system into the router? I thought a mesh replaced repeaters etc… not routers? Are these interchangeable? 😭😭😭 Why is/are all these terms and devices so confusing for non tech ppl…
I’m out in rural nowhereville and need to get wifi to a mother in law building out back. The more I look up, the more confused I am.
With Starlink the factory router powers the dish so it has to stay hooked up. If you buy a 3rd party mesh system the main 3rd party mesh router will plug into the Starlink router. The other mesh routers can talk to the main router wirelessly.
Anyone using Starlink in Central Indiana? I need faster more reliable internet, but when I asked my neighbor she said she was getting 80 Mbps down going through trees.
Starlink has a handy speed map at www.Starlink.com/map that you can check real user speeds for any state. It gives you an average range so you can expect generally somewhere in the middle during peak hours. Towards the high end of it outside of peak hours.
Speed depends on Clear coverage. Especially for Voip and Streaming reasons. 😊
Please include all settings for first GEN Starlink
No
Portforwarding is useless on starlink its gcnat give the right info
You can get a public IP that is basically static with Starlink if you don’t want to deal with CGNAT.
Will I get better ping/latency if I use a third party router? If so which router is best for gaming?