www.eattheweeds... Do you like Mate? Can't do without caffeine? Learn about six hollies, three with caffeine and three without, that can make a healthy tea full of antioxidants and caffein if you want.
I was pleased to discover Ilex Vomitoria (Pendula) growing less than 10 feet from my door! Beautiful plant! I have some of her leaves air drying as I type this!
I was always told to never deal with any hollies in any way at all. Of course I found that a lot of things I was told by people who should know better was wrong. I will try some tea next time I come across one. It is easy to idetify these, expecialy the American Holly. Enjoy your wine by the way. I wish I could figure out why my muskidins will not produce anymore, but seems so healthy otherwise.
I've wanted some yaupon for a while. Bought seeds, looked at buying plants, &c then today, I was outside thinking how we had a lot of different hollies thanks to the previous owners, & one little bush, right by the door. Several times thought of removing it.. "could that be a holly?" ... Then I realized I had what I wanted all along! Lol (though I'll ask the local extension to be sure)
Actually Green Dean the plant with the most caffeine of all the hollies and all plants is Ilex guayusa from the Amazon! It's used in much the same way as Ilex vomitoria.
@Imagoodbonobo I think the question you ask has not been researched. However, between wild I. vomitoria and cultivars the cultivars have more caffeine, and in one study all they studied were female cultivars. The amount of caffein and antioxidants in I. vomitoria var nana and I. vomitoria ver. pendula is directly related to the amount of sunlight and nitrogen fertilizer, with the latter topping all in caffein and antioxidants. .
In yerba mate plantations, male plants are preferred over females for both flavor and higher caffeine content. Dean, I wonder if you find any difference in taste between the female cultivars of Ilex vomitoria mentioned in this video and the wild male plants? I would assume based on evolutionary logic that male vomitoria trees would also have higher caffeine levels. I would also assume that the theobromine (active drug in chocolate and Ilex spp.) levels would differ between males and females.
So helpful. Thank you. Trying to decipher all the different types of holly using photos/videos has been difficult. Having them all in one place (on your table) was so helpful.
Hey Argentine here! We consume mate all the time in all sorts of situations, It is lovely you have your variant with your own "native" flora! I really wonder how does one of those hollie mate taste like. Thanks for the quality!
Thanks, Green Dean! That's the info I've been wanting for years! I used to be a mate drinker for many years, and would love it if the vomitoria grew wild here.
In the UK we have Ilex aquifolia which has the classic spikey leaves seen on Christmas cards, I like the way the leaves lose their spikes above 12 feet or so.. Thought to be unnecessary protection above normal browsing height of for example aurochs
@pinkytm1 Well... that's a mixed message.... the vomitoria et al have lots of little vestiges of leaves, whereas the galberry tends to be the boyscout salute shape.
I have the spiny leafed holly tree in my front and back yards. It starts really easily, I dig up the sprouts in the front yard and give the new plants away.
@scotchheather The English holly is like the American holly except it has a lighter outline. You can read about all of it on my website.Type "hollies" into the archive window. The English holly has been used for a long time.
Sorry so many years late on this video😂. Thank you for all the research you do because it is a lot of work to find accurate info on Google. I have a dwarf shilling and my husband and I tried it for the first time today and were impressed by the light green tea like flavor. I'm excited to learn about more wild plants. P.S. We also have elderberry trees and loquats that grow wild in our yard. Loquat tea is amazing and elderflowers pack a floral punch 😊
So those plants next to sidewalks with little red berries are hollies? I always wondered why they were so popular to plant. The plant I've seen near me right now has pungent smelling flowers that are quite fragrant and numerous. They are yellow, tiny, and all over the plant. I have also seen the hedges with identical smelling flowers. I wonder what variety it is, or if it is holly since you don't mention the distinctive scent.
Well,Ive been looking for weeks for the vomitoria and couldn't find it. I was looking at pictures on the internet and thought the leaves were supposed to be much bigger. So I found your video and realized the vomitoria leaves are only tiny in camparison with other common hollies.I was feeling jinxed out of finding just one tree here in N/W florida, so thanks for your informative videos. Heck, there every where dean . We have ilex shiilling or shiller (excuse my spelling) at our work shop. I found the nana with bergundy tipped new growth and seeds, and original vomitoria all over. The Pendula is obvious. Thanks for your vids and web site, its all good for the my little toolbox on my shoulders.
I live in coastal washington. We have tons of holly. I cut them down cause i thought they were poisonous and worthless. They have dark red berries and large dark dark green shiny and very spiky leaves. Are these leaves safe for tea?
Interesting, but unfortunately contains some misinformation: European holly leaves do not necessarily have white or yellow margins. In fact, most do not. Those are just some of the special cultivars. They do, however, have deeply wavy margins and pronounced spines. European holly is invasive and has become a serious pest species here in the Pacific northwest where I live. The best thing to do with them is to root them out whenever possible.
Wonderful as always! I wish you lived in CA so that there were more plants to learn about that are in this area... but you did give me a contact related to foraging classes locally... I just need to find that email. Anyway... Thank you so much.... and PS... ha ha with the tie I thought you were going to do some Chip'n'dale dancing... ;-)
WHAT happened to the forum Green Deane!? It was way better than the equivalent forums on reddit or facebook but I got banned for posting edgy stories. Here we are nearly 6 years later and I keep crossing paths with your highly educational content, but I feel you cut short what could have possibly been the best resource for wild edibles in north America right as it was starting to grow. There was another older guy who got banned for speaking his mind (as he was prone to do) but I don't think that's the reason to shut down a whole community. Years have passed and I almost forgot about eat the weeds and the forum I'd spent so many hours on until I run into a video like this in my recommended. Regards from "Mozart Ghost".
Common 2 Florida, “yaupon” holly is 1 w/the highest amount of caffeine.Seminole Indians used it 4 ceremonies as well as daily consumption.When the Spaniards 1st contacted native Florida tribes,they were introduced 2 it & soon became addicted 2 the effects of the caffeine.
Hi mr Dean, I love your videos,l just watched your video on yoepon hollys can a coffee drink be made from the leaves by roasting green leaves till they turn black then boiling?
@pinkytm1 They all do except the dahoo, which can have them or not. The vomitoria and the glabra do not really look alike. The glabra is more spatular shaped and the vomitoria more lance shaped.
I think yaupon fell into disuse after Latin American countries which grew coffee became independent making direct trade in coffee with US (uncontrolled by Spain and Portugal) more feasible and less expensive.
Ilex vomitoria nana and others can be used as an excellent caffeine-containing raw material for making quality deep fermented teas like da hong pao and puer. I study deep fermentation of teas, this is a huge untapped potential, a quality that can satisfy coffee and pu-erh lovers🕺
Gold is in all the red and purple and orange fruit and vegetables and also contains rhodium radium Playdium Playdium copper silver serval other valuable to the human body metals in a nano particle form
But wait, some cultivars of Ilex crenata seems to have pointy edges too... I have an Ilex I’m trying to ID and now can’t tell if it’s I. vomitoria or I. crenata because of conflicting info
Not really. The size of the leaves are usually very different. IV leaves are small, often half an inch on the hedge variety, an inch on the understory tree. IC has large leaves even when curled, a couple of inches long at least.
@@greendeane1 I may be looking at some other species if IC leaf is supposed to be couple of inches long. It's that I got a IV "Hoskin Shadow" rooted cutting from the mail and it looks very much like the feral IC-like bushes in the wooded edges of suburbs that have black fruits. I can maybe tell them apart by colors of new growths and when they grow or bloom. MD Zone 7a.
@@greendeane1 wliwni nid8ba thank you friend, This is my ancestral land in Maine,, I love that you were there. th-cam.com/video/SKECoyeDA58/w-d-xo.html
We should do away with money all together and just trade with each other. What good is money anyway, its just worthless paper. People should trade with each other DIRECTLY.
King James Bible And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine
I have tons of holly bushes all around my wooded 5 acre property. This was a great informational video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I was pleased to discover Ilex Vomitoria (Pendula) growing less than 10 feet from my door! Beautiful plant! I have some of her leaves air drying as I type this!
I was always told to never deal with any hollies in any way at all. Of course I found that a lot of things I was told by people who should know better was wrong. I will try some tea next time I come across one. It is easy to idetify these, expecialy the American Holly. Enjoy your wine by the way. I wish I could figure out why my muskidins will not produce anymore, but seems so healthy otherwise.
I've wanted some yaupon for a while. Bought seeds, looked at buying plants, &c then today, I was outside thinking how we had a lot of different hollies thanks to the previous owners, & one little bush, right by the door. Several times thought of removing it.. "could that be a holly?" ... Then I realized I had what I wanted all along! Lol (though I'll ask the local extension to be sure)
I drinking mate right now, like every day, I can't live without mate , I'm from Argentina.
Love your videos.
Actually Green Dean the plant with the most caffeine of all the hollies and all plants is Ilex guayusa from the Amazon! It's used in much the same way as Ilex vomitoria.
I don't think you've posted in a long time, but this is one of my fav channels
Thanks... life gets in the way of living. And I have a book coming out a year from now.
@Imagoodbonobo I think the question you ask has not been researched. However, between wild I. vomitoria and cultivars the cultivars have more caffeine, and in one study all they studied were female cultivars. The amount of caffein and antioxidants in I. vomitoria var nana and I. vomitoria ver. pendula is directly related to the amount of sunlight and nitrogen fertilizer, with the latter topping all in caffein and antioxidants. .
In yerba mate plantations, male plants are preferred over females for both flavor and higher caffeine content. Dean, I wonder if you find any difference in taste between the female cultivars of Ilex vomitoria mentioned in this video and the wild male plants? I would assume based on evolutionary logic that male vomitoria trees would also have higher caffeine levels. I would also assume that the theobromine (active drug in chocolate and Ilex spp.) levels would differ between males and females.
So helpful. Thank you. Trying to decipher all the different types of holly using photos/videos has been difficult. Having them all in one place (on your table) was so helpful.
@Jaahda One is five gallons of loquat wine, and the other is one gallon of muscadine wine. I have since bottled the Loquat wine.
Hey Argentine here! We consume mate all the time in all sorts of situations, It is lovely you have your variant with your own "native" flora! I really wonder how does one of those hollie mate taste like.
Thanks for the quality!
Your videos are great, thank you very much for posting them.
Thanks, Green Dean! That's the info I've been wanting for years! I used to be a mate drinker for many years, and would love it if the vomitoria grew wild here.
I have often enjoyed some yaupon tea. Thanks for the videos, they are fantastic.
I enjoy your videos . Keep it going Deane !
Thank you so much for this wonderful information!
In the UK we have Ilex aquifolia which has the classic spikey leaves seen on Christmas cards, I like the way the leaves lose their spikes above 12 feet or so.. Thought to be unnecessary protection above normal browsing height of for example aurochs
@pinkytm1 Well... that's a mixed message.... the vomitoria et al have lots of little vestiges of leaves, whereas the galberry tends to be the boyscout salute shape.
@TruthSmack I don't know. There are quite a few. I wouldn't think so.
Idk how I wound up here, but I enjoyed it. Watched the whole episode. Cheers!
I have the spiny leafed holly tree in my front and back yards. It starts really easily, I dig up the sprouts in the front yard and give the new plants away.
@scotchheather The English holly is like the American holly except it has a lighter outline. You can read about all of it on my website.Type "hollies" into the archive window. The English holly has been used for a long time.
Enjoyed the video. Thank you.
@StephieMcCarthy The berries of the North American hollies are toxic, but the leaves of some species have been used for drink for centuries.
I found this so interesting I bought a Yaupon Holly and have planted it on my land!
Free tea...
Green Deane i want 6 to line my fence so There will be a shady area in the field. I’m gonna try rooting some clippings of it. Thank you Green Dean!
Sorry so many years late on this video😂. Thank you for all the research you do because it is a lot of work to find accurate info on Google. I have a dwarf shilling and my husband and I tried it for the first time today and were impressed by the light green tea like flavor. I'm excited to learn about more wild plants. P.S. We also have elderberry trees and loquats that grow wild in our yard. Loquat tea is amazing and elderflowers pack a floral punch 😊
So glad you made this. I was considering cutting down our hollies and now know better. Can you do anything with the berries?
Your videos continue to get better.
man you are an expert! I thought I know a lots but you are the one. Thank you for sharing.
Thanku for sharing. Somewhat blurry when u were trying to show d different hollies leaves there but other than that Thanku for d information.
So those plants next to sidewalks with little red berries are hollies? I always wondered why they were so popular to plant. The plant I've seen near me right now has pungent smelling flowers that are quite fragrant and numerous. They are yellow, tiny, and all over the plant. I have also seen the hedges with identical smelling flowers. I wonder what variety it is, or if it is holly since you don't mention the distinctive scent.
@themoderateextremist You have "A" spiny leafed holly. There are several. Make sure it is an American holly.
Well,Ive been looking for weeks for the vomitoria and couldn't find it. I was looking at pictures on the internet and thought the leaves were supposed to be much bigger. So I found your video and realized the vomitoria leaves are only tiny in camparison with other common hollies.I was feeling jinxed out of finding just one tree here in N/W florida, so thanks for your informative videos. Heck, there every where dean . We have ilex shiilling or shiller (excuse my spelling) at our work shop. I found the nana with bergundy tipped new growth and seeds, and original vomitoria all over. The Pendula is obvious. Thanks for your vids and web site, its all good for the my little toolbox on my shoulders.
I live in coastal washington. We have tons of holly. I cut them down cause i thought they were poisonous and worthless. They have dark red berries and large dark dark green shiny and very spiky leaves. Are these leaves safe for tea?
Interesting, but unfortunately contains some misinformation: European holly leaves do not necessarily have white or yellow margins. In fact, most do not. Those are just some of the special cultivars. They do, however, have deeply wavy margins and pronounced spines. European holly is invasive and has become a serious pest species here in the Pacific northwest where I live. The best thing to do with them is to root them out whenever possible.
Lol!
I pay 16 dollars a pound for Yerba Mate, glad I found this video!
Wonderful as always!
I wish you lived in CA so that there were more plants to learn about that are in this area... but you did give me a contact related to foraging classes locally... I just need to find that email.
Anyway... Thank you so much.... and PS... ha ha with the tie I thought you were going to do some Chip'n'dale dancing... ;-)
Thank you!!
WHAT happened to the forum Green Deane!? It was way better than the equivalent forums on reddit or facebook but I got banned for posting edgy stories. Here we are nearly 6 years later and I keep crossing paths with your highly educational content, but I feel you cut short what could have possibly been the best resource for wild edibles in north America right as it was starting to grow. There was another older guy who got banned for speaking his mind (as he was prone to do) but I don't think that's the reason to shut down a whole community. Years have passed and I almost forgot about eat the weeds and the forum I'd spent so many hours on until I run into a video like this in my recommended. Regards from "Mozart Ghost".
thanks for the great vids, you have earned another subscriber! thank you!
Anyone know if Yaupon Bordeaux (Condeaux) has caffeine?
Common 2 Florida, “yaupon” holly is 1 w/the highest amount of caffeine.Seminole Indians used it 4 ceremonies as well as daily consumption.When the Spaniards 1st contacted native Florida tribes,they were introduced 2 it & soon became addicted 2 the effects of the caffeine.
Hi mr Dean, I love your videos,l just watched your video on yoepon hollys can a coffee drink be made from the leaves by roasting green leaves till they turn black then boiling?
@pinkytm1 Which holly did you use?
"because weee....."
haha like the good eats intro. i like it!
holly leaf tea??? just blew my mind!!
@Iseeit4u The berries are mildly toxic, unless you are a kid, then they are quite toxic.
I'm binge watching you lol
Thanks Green Deane, you're a cool guy
@Imagoodbonobo Please tell us more about this... why are the males better, etc?
Curious ommision of i. decidua (possumhaw)
@2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies
@pinkytm1 They all do except the dahoo, which can have them or not. The vomitoria and the glabra do not really look alike. The glabra is more spatular shaped and the vomitoria more lance shaped.
I think yaupon fell into disuse after Latin American countries which grew coffee became independent making direct trade in coffee with US (uncontrolled by Spain and Portugal) more feasible and less expensive.
Can you make a tea out of all hollys besides getting a bit ill (not fatal)?
I. Pendulla? Looks lighter green than all ilex I think. Thanku
Camellia sinensis is a good tea I think.
@Jaahda Yeah, and as soon as it has aged I'm going to see how it affects mood and brain cells.
Ilex vomitoria nana and others can be used as an excellent caffeine-containing raw material for making quality deep fermented teas like da hong pao and puer. I study deep fermentation of teas, this is a huge untapped potential, a quality that can satisfy coffee and pu-erh lovers🕺
Gold is in all the red and purple and orange fruit and vegetables and also contains rhodium radium Playdium Playdium copper silver serval other valuable to the human body metals in a nano particle form
But wait, some cultivars of Ilex crenata seems to have pointy edges too... I have an Ilex I’m trying to ID and now can’t tell if it’s I. vomitoria or I. crenata because of conflicting info
Not really. The size of the leaves are usually very different. IV leaves are small, often half an inch on the hedge variety, an inch on the understory tree. IC has large leaves even when curled, a couple of inches long at least.
@@greendeane1 I may be looking at some other species if IC leaf is supposed to be couple of inches long. It's that I got a IV "Hoskin Shadow" rooted cutting from the mail and it looks very much like the feral IC-like bushes in the wooded edges of suburbs that have black fruits. I can maybe tell them apart by colors of new growths and when they grow or bloom. MD Zone 7a.
I can't grow ilex Vomitoria in Maine, what are my options?
Try Ilex opaca.
@@greendeane1 wliwni nid8ba thank you friend,
This is my ancestral land in Maine,, I love that you were there.
th-cam.com/video/SKECoyeDA58/w-d-xo.html
@themoderateextremist ... in southern ohio near Cincinnati
@hunt458 No, I. decidua gets totally naked, the Cassine does not.
for the record, Yerba Mate rocks!
@pinkytm1 Send me a picture, or find one like it on the internet.
I love MATE!!!!! and I live in 800 acres of yaupon, I LOVE IT!!!!!
Music?
cool
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@2962nicktucker @2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies
So all the ilexes have small teeth?
No. Many but not all.
We should do away with money all together and just trade with each other. What good is money anyway, its just worthless paper. People should trade with each other DIRECTLY.
Please see my video on Sacred Hollies... hope you enjoy!!!
I only made this video cause of you Green Deane! You inspired me!
what are in those bottles behind you?
I wouldn't. They might make you throw up.
Youpon holly grow wild in my yard.
😄 where is your yard (joke)
@b1gje55e Do something 121 times and you tend to get better.
King James Bible
And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine
@2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies
@2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies
@2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies
@2962nicktucker I've never see it on Hollies