@@bryy2053I've had my '24 in Shelter Green for just over two months now... How long has it been in production status? Mine took almost a yr but I think those timeframes have come down a LOT. Good luck you're going to love it!
@Schwiti its been in production for 8 days...checking through status every couple hours haha! My dealer put the order in on July 31st, the day orders closed. But they messed up so they put the highest priority code on my order that they could. I've talked to people that ordered in May and still haven't got a build date yet. I feel for them
I’m assuming you’ve increased your number of transmission shift by following right behind your camera vehicle. Each time you close distance you’re having to let off the gas causing it to shift and then when you get back into the gas it is shifting again vs a smoother constant throttle if nobody was in front of you. This contributes to worse case scenario testing , which is great for testing.
So we know that the half tons and mid size trucks get extremely hot when doing the toaster test. I’d like to see the ram 6.4 HD, gmc 6.6 and the ford 7.3 SD on the toaster test to see if the heavier duty trucks handle the heat better.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1it says 7500 tow 7500. They actually assume you’ll over tow so they build in more strength and capacity than they tell you. Tow 7500.
Yeah it cracks me up when all these tow police keyboard warriors think you need a dually to tow 10k pounds. The weight is not even that important- it's where the trailer is hooked to the truck, do you have weight distributing bars and airbags, and what are the trailer aerodynamics like. A half ton pulling an airstream at max capacity or a fifth wheel at max capacity is going to be a totally different experience than a square edged bumper pull at max capacity. The tow police community doesn't apply any of that logic though they can only think with their caveman brain which is weight bad
@@fewworddotrick also rear axel ratio 3.21. 3.45 ,3.73 I tow a 7000 lb 26' airstream 890 lb hitch with V8 1/2 ton over the doner pass I 80 , long grade on I-15 to Vegas does good ,a diesel would be better ,my next tow truck will F150 V6 power boost, maybe tundra not sure on the hurricane I-6 ram , in the high altitudes the turbos do better than a NA v8
@@layne4376 The 24's have the motor already out in the wild and the recall is for a previous generation. Also, this ain't Ford making the videos so I don't see how that holds up anything in regards to reviewing an existing product.
@@strvph64 I don't think you understand how recalls work. Regardless, even mentioning the regular Ranger to this Raptor is one of those "who gives a shit moments'
I’m sure you guys know and a lot of people will manually control the transmission to keep the RPMs higher to keep the water pump spinning faster, and keep boost levels down. I’d be curious to see a back to back comparison or two of the identical vehicles driving up this hill, one letting the transmission work automatically and one manually controlling the transmission, reducing the amount of shifting and keeping the RPM higher.
@@garysarratt1Immediately, to keep the transmission temperature below 180 degrees Fahrenheit. Before the transmission is damaged by driving around with trans Temps of 200 degrees.
Great job TFL, loving the Ranger Raptor content. I agree with you guys, I own a Ranger Raptor as well, its my daily driver, and it really is as good as you guys have said and shown that it is. I tuned mine about a week or two ago. Power was impressive and even more so now.
There is supposed to be a “towing” setting on the Ford tuner. Keep things in line, plenty of power, while not too much stress. Was it set optimal for towing? They warn not to tow in a high HP off-road max power/speed type modes. Your throttle foot, based on sound effects, sucks. On-off-on-off-on throttle for zero reason. When towing at max, any driver knows need to be smooth.
Where did you hear about multiple settings offered on the FP tune? I have only seen instructions showing one programming setting for "Performance Calibration" giving the advertised power and torque without any mention of different calibrations (like some aftermarket tuners offer).
I would have a hard time buying a midsize truck for 57k, but if I did it would be the Ranger Raptor. Second choice would be the Colorado ZR2 (non Bison). The lil Raptor covers the offroad aspect, small truck aspect and something fun to drive anywhere you're at. I would think the fun to drive factor would be highest in class with the Raptor, especially with the tune. If that's not important to you, I would consider the ZR2.
I love the towing tests but the Ike Gauntlet is starting to feel too easy for the HD diesel trucks. You could do this toaster test with a shorter trailer and just a very heavy payload for the HD trucks, like a few pallets of stone block or similar.
It better work fine with the Raptors much lower towing capacity. None of the Raptors towing limitations come from the drive-train; just the suspension.
From the digital gauge display, for the transmission, it looks like 300* is the maximum but at 250* it will start to derate itself (there's a yellow line indicating that on the display). Unlike the transmission, the oil temperature does not appear to have any additional "caution" marks before the apparent maximum temperature of 300*, so I'd expect you'd have maximum power available up to that point. I like that Ford gives the driver important information like that, it allows you to potentially change how you're driving if the vehicle is heating up faster than expected.
The question i have now...how long do you have to idle that turbo engine to get the temp down enough to turn the truck off? Has to be more than 5 minutes for sure.
That would be a great idea to load the HD down heavy and tow with them up the hill that would be real world scenario the construction on the road prove that you have to get equipment up there somehow great video
Another good torture test. I would love to see you add a no touch laser thermometer to give us some numbers on how hot parts and pieces of the truck are at the end. Hood, the hood support wheels, etc....
Just think if the Ford engineers are smart and maybe they were. They designed the transmission, transfer case, engine etc. for the “tuned” output, then just offered all the factory models detuned…. So everything is way under-stressed ensuring excellent durability of the mechanical systems. And, making more $$$ from less warranty repairs, while passing the cost of utilizing what it was actually designed to be its factory limits/threshold for a $800 fee… genius……..😐
Or they just were not using all the torque the tune had to offer. Or there are limiters in the tune that dial back torque when intake, coolant, and oil temperatures start to get high 🤷♂️
Ranger raptor does a very good job of heat management, for the hd trucks you could still use a shorter trailer with a decent weight on it but also put a heavy load in the bed as well
Hey guys can you try this test with a Titan and Titan XD to not only see the difference between the two but to see if an old school truck can be just as capable and true to its maximum rated capacity. It would be a great send off for its last production year
I didn't catch it but when you guys were talking about the tune that you got put on the truck. You guys should have talked about how it could void your warranty. It's all up to the dealership. You guys already talked about this. I just think you guys should always mention that anytime you talk about the tune.
Considering selling our 32' travel trailer. Kids are older and we want to do some home reno. I may sell my '17 - F350 - 6.2L Gas Lariat that's like new with 71k (it's currently Oct. 8, 2024). I might get as much as 40k back. Soooooo, what to do, what - to - do? Home reno will happen with trailer money, but I can get a Raptor or a Mustang or whatever or the Vette (used) dad always wanted. I'm 51 in a few weeks and I don't have the cash to throw around, but it would be fun to have a smaller fast car to tool around in, but I would miss having a truck to throw stuff in. Never thought I'd have these options when I hit my bottom 29 years ago.
Am I thinking correctly by saying that, since the air is getting thinner cooling becomes more ineffective but also engine doesn't make as much power, therefore canceling out elevation cooling difficulty????
Do I think vehicles are "cheap and affordable" these days, NO. But I have to agree with Roman that this vehicle, in todays market and in comparison to its competition, is a good value(RELATIVELY, once again for those in the back.) Go back to early TFL videos and the number one biggest complaint was.................drumroll.........................how expensive truck were getting. People like to complain but you get far more in these trucks vs even 10-15 years ago let alone 20+ years ago and whether or not you want all the doo dads they do add cost. Adjusted for inflation the costs are not extreme when you consider this. Also NEVER pay retail. For crying out loud find good deals and they are out there. Right now I can find Ranger Raptors for 5000$ off msrp if you look, hint its in Port Arthur Texas.
I mean, honestly, I think it’s a good deal even years ago. I look at this truck and compare it to my 2014 F150 Lariat Ecoboost that msrp’d for $57k and, with the exception of its size, is a better equipped truck all around. Difference is I was able to get >20% off MSRP on my Lariat, not sure we will ever see that with these
This one will satisfy all the comments i'd keep seeing under each video "you guys need to toast the ranger raptor!" It did good, that is a grueling tow.
I agree that engine trouble codes and the computer derating the engine are the first two criteria for a fail. However, the third criteria is if the transmission temperatures get too hot. If the transmission temperature gets to 212 degrees Fahrenheit frequently then the truck needs a transmission cooler. Before the test started the transmission temp was at 200 degrees Fahrenheit so the Ranger Raptor failed the test. If the transmission temp gets to 248 degrees Fahrenheit then you should look for someplace to pull over. The AutoMeter analog transmission temperature gauge starts at 100 and goes up to 250 degrees F. When analog gauges have the needle pointing straight up (11-12 o'clock position) everything is operating properly. Anything over 50% or 180 degrees F is a fail. An automatic transmission can never be too cool but too much heat damages the throttle bodies and makes the rubber seals brittle.
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The transmission did not fail the test, if it did a fault code would have been flagged. There were no failures.
When you subject a transmission to high heat cycles it softens the aluminum throttle bodies and causes premature wear on the internal components. It will work fine for awhile but it will start to have blowby and the transmission won't shift properly. If you don't keep your truck very long it isn't a problem for you but it will be a problem for the next owner. The Tacoma and Ranger Raptor "normal" transmission temperature when driving around the city was around 200 degrees Fahrenheit and that's not good for long term reliability. If you think it's fine then go buy one and run the transmission as hot as you want. I don't care if you choose to shorten the life of your transmission because a warning light didn't turn on.
I got into it with a guy in the comments section of a different channel (something I rarely do unless they are seriously misinformed) who was defending 10k oil changes because it's not 1960 anymore. This test brings that use case front and center. I don't care how good the oil tech has gotten, regular 240*+ engine temps and 300* trans temps on turbocharged engines will COOK vehicle fluids. Most people who use their trucks for hard use know to change fluids More Often, not less!
On LHT Performance John explains that when the engine oil passes through a hot turbo it cooks the oil and it breaks down faster. He changes oil more frequently on a track car because it is subjected to more extreme use. A truck used for towing should also get more frequent oil changes to prevent carbon build up in the engine. You don't want to leave the oil in until it starts to break down because then your engine isn't protected.
Love the Ranger Raptor vs the other new mid-sizes, but out of all the Ford dealers in my state they all mark the RR up to ~$66K anyways. At least it tells me what dealers I'll never buy any vehicle from.
I know that you have done this test on other vehicles but it it a fair comparison if you aren’t towing the same weight across all the vehicles? Obviously some vehicles are capable of towing more than the rest but if a vehicle that’s capable of towing 7700lbs fails and if a vehicle capable of towing 5500 passes, is it a fair comparison? The lower rated truck will fail if it breaks something. I think you need to do these tests with different weights to keep it fair.
Yes, it's fair because that's what they're rated for. Why is it fair for a maxed out truck to fail the test when a truck at half its rating does it with ease? It's all about testing the ratings and whether the truck can do what or says.
Your reviews continue to confirm the the ridiculous opinions of Motortrend in their review of the Ranger Raptor. This truck should be a strong contender for Truck of the Year but they have already ruled that out by their prejudiced earlier comments. All other reviews have praised this truck for its’ complete capabilities and execution.
Sidesteps on midsize pick up trucks and SUVs like the Highlander…are not really functional. (unless you’re under 5 feet tall, )They’re just there to make the truck have more “accessories” and seem closer to a full-size truck
I don't know. Going by what the manufacturer has rated the truck for seems fair to me. If the truck is rated at 7k then it should pass the test as a truck rated at 5k would.
So is the Ike still the world’s toughest towing test? I really love the testing TFL does, especially the company fleet trucks. I don’t think you’re purposely trying to damage vehicles just seeing how real world use affects these vehicles - plus it looks like fun testing all the vehicles
Pulling 5500lbs with 450hp and 530lb feet of torque should be effortlessly in those conditions. Try putting that amount of weight behind a full size truck with similar power and I would bet it wouldn't struggle either. Great truck but not exactly great at towing due to suspension limitations.
I don't ever do the "First" thing, but I almost did when the first 4 comments were all scantily clad women declaring the their appreciation for TFL videos, and the inspiration they gain from them.
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The ranger raptor seems to be one of the very few trucks that offer real “value”. A super truck for $57,000? That’s not bad!
Check us back in 5 years lol
Well it's not really a truck but a ford bronco with a bed in the back.
@evoemperor3776 the Bronco is based on the ranger. It's the other way around.
@@evoemperor3776this has got to be the worst take I’ve ever read
@@evoemperor3776 Huh?
I’m surprised the y’all at TFL don’t use the pun “TOW-ster” test
Should have copy righted that before Roman could
Love the look of that Ranger Raptor 🇺🇸
It turns out the Ranger Raptor is as good as advertised.
600,000 recalls this year alone says otherwise 😂
@@melissasmess2773not the ranger
Why didn’t they just tune it like that from the factory!!! Ohhh they can make more money 💰 to sell the extra stuff
@@vernt4583 I'm sure they wanted the stock version to meet certain MPG goals, and that tune affects gas mileage.
The Raptor out sells Toyota here in Aus. It is a great vehicle.
Wonder if opening exhaust to Baja setting would have helped with cooling a little.
Thanks for the video.
We certainly love ours.
You know you guys continue to produce these Ranger Raptor videos and it's making me want to trade in my Bronco for one. Damn you
This truck keeps getting better. I think I might order a 2025
I got one in production as we speak in shelter green. I can't wait.
@@bryy2053I've had my '24 in Shelter Green for just over two months now... How long has it been in production status? Mine took almost a yr but I think those timeframes have come down a LOT. Good luck you're going to love it!
@@bryy2053 nice!
I have I believeit will de a 2025 ranger fx4 orderd hot pepper red trade-in a 2022 ranger tremor with 9,987 miles on it
@Schwiti its been in production for 8 days...checking through status every couple hours haha! My dealer put the order in on July 31st, the day orders closed. But they messed up so they put the highest priority code on my order that they could. I've talked to people that ordered in May and still haven't got a build date yet. I feel for them
I’m assuming you’ve increased your number of transmission shift by following right behind your camera vehicle. Each time you close distance you’re having to let off the gas causing it to shift and then when you get back into the gas it is shifting again vs a smoother constant throttle if nobody was in front of you. This contributes to worse case scenario testing , which is great for testing.
Not to mention blocking airflow.
@@lray801yea, I came to mention this. A big blocky SUV is definitely affecting airflow to the truck so close behind it.
So we know that the half tons and mid size trucks get extremely hot when doing the toaster test. I’d like to see the ram 6.4 HD, gmc 6.6 and the ford 7.3 SD on the toaster test to see if the heavier duty trucks handle the heat better.
I'd like to see a Ranger XLT with the 2.7l tow 7500lbs up that hill.
true id go maybe 6000 max 22' trailer I don't trust tow ratings but if one is towing in the flats of Oklahoma
Me too
@@youtubecarspottersguide1it says 7500 tow 7500. They actually assume you’ll over tow so they build in more strength and capacity than they tell you. Tow 7500.
Yeah it cracks me up when all these tow police keyboard warriors think you need a dually to tow 10k pounds. The weight is not even that important- it's where the trailer is hooked to the truck, do you have weight distributing bars and airbags, and what are the trailer aerodynamics like. A half ton pulling an airstream at max capacity or a fifth wheel at max capacity is going to be a totally different experience than a square edged bumper pull at max capacity. The tow police community doesn't apply any of that logic though they can only think with their caveman brain which is weight bad
@@fewworddotrick also rear axel ratio 3.21. 3.45 ,3.73 I tow a 7000 lb 26' airstream 890 lb hitch with V8 1/2 ton over the doner pass I 80 , long grade on I-15 to Vegas does good ,a diesel would be better ,my next tow truck will F150 V6 power boost, maybe tundra not sure on the hurricane I-6 ram , in the high altitudes the turbos do better than a NA v8
The 2.7 Ecoboost Ranger should be very interesting
Ford will have to deal with the 90,000 recalls on that motor first.
@@layne4376 The 24's have the motor already out in the wild and the recall is for a previous generation. Also, this ain't Ford making the videos so I don't see how that holds up anything in regards to reviewing an existing product.
@@strvph64 I don't think you understand how recalls work. Regardless, even mentioning the regular Ranger to this Raptor is one of those "who gives a shit moments'
Shoot, you sound like an authority. Sorry for the logic.
I’m sure you guys know and a lot of people will manually control the transmission to keep the RPMs higher to keep the water pump spinning faster, and keep boost levels down. I’d be curious to see a back to back comparison or two of the identical vehicles driving up this hill, one letting the transmission work automatically and one manually controlling the transmission, reducing the amount of shifting and keeping the RPM higher.
Let me say from Australia that the country around Colorado looks fantastic. I have to get there someday.
I love the Ranger Raptor. It is by far the perfect (not for towing) truck for sale to date.
I still think and aftermarket larger intercooler is a good thing to add especially with the tune.
After the warranty expires?
@@garysarratt1Immediately, to keep the transmission temperature below 180 degrees Fahrenheit. Before the transmission is damaged by driving around with trans Temps of 200 degrees.
Great job TFL, loving the Ranger Raptor content. I agree with you guys, I own a Ranger Raptor as well, its my daily driver, and it really is as good as you guys have said and shown that it is. I tuned mine about a week or two ago. Power was impressive and even more so now.
What i would like to know is what’s the mpg before and after the tune on a 100 mile loop
There is supposed to be a “towing” setting on the Ford tuner. Keep things in line, plenty of power, while not too much stress. Was it set optimal for towing? They warn not to tow in a high HP off-road max power/speed type modes. Your throttle foot, based on sound effects, sucks. On-off-on-off-on throttle for zero reason. When towing at max, any driver knows need to be smooth.
Where did you hear about multiple settings offered on the FP tune? I have only seen instructions showing one programming setting for "Performance Calibration" giving the advertised power and torque without any mention of different calibrations (like some aftermarket tuners offer).
This makes me feel better about the tune. I don’t intend to push my RR that hard, but it’s nice to know it can handle it.
Now lets test the 3.0L Duramax
I would have a hard time buying a midsize truck for 57k, but if I did it would be the Ranger Raptor. Second choice would be the Colorado ZR2 (non Bison). The lil Raptor covers the offroad aspect, small truck aspect and something fun to drive anywhere you're at. I would think the fun to drive factor would be highest in class with the Raptor, especially with the tune. If that's not important to you, I would consider the ZR2.
I love the towing tests but the Ike Gauntlet is starting to feel too easy for the HD diesel trucks. You could do this toaster test with a shorter trailer and just a very heavy payload for the HD trucks, like a few pallets of stone block or similar.
It better work fine with the Raptors much lower towing capacity. None of the Raptors towing limitations come from the drive-train; just the suspension.
Oh yeah, regular ranger is 7500lbs.
Raptors are very squishy, for better or worse.
Cmon Roman, none of these trucks are affordable.
Can’t wait for you guys to get your hands on a 2.7
From the digital gauge display, for the transmission, it looks like 300* is the maximum but at 250* it will start to derate itself (there's a yellow line indicating that on the display). Unlike the transmission, the oil temperature does not appear to have any additional "caution" marks before the apparent maximum temperature of 300*, so I'd expect you'd have maximum power available up to that point. I like that Ford gives the driver important information like that, it allows you to potentially change how you're driving if the vehicle is heating up faster than expected.
The question i have now...how long do you have to idle that turbo engine to get the temp down enough to turn the truck off? Has to be more than 5 minutes for sure.
No need to do a cooldown on liquid cooled turbos.
That would be a great idea to load the HD down heavy and tow with them up the hill that would be real world scenario the construction on the road prove that you have to get equipment up there somehow great video
Another good torture test. I would love to see you add a no touch laser thermometer to give us some numbers on how hot parts and pieces of the truck are at the end. Hood, the hood support wheels, etc....
Andre used to have one of those 🤣
I love that raptor
If you go through the gauge cluster u can find many more temps like intake temps and even cylinder head temps
Just think if the Ford engineers are smart and maybe they were. They designed the transmission, transfer case, engine etc. for the “tuned” output, then just offered all the factory models detuned…. So everything is way under-stressed ensuring excellent durability of the mechanical systems. And, making more $$$ from less warranty repairs, while passing the cost of utilizing what it was actually designed to be its factory limits/threshold for a $800 fee… genius……..😐
Or they just were not using all the torque the tune had to offer. Or there are limiters in the tune that dial back torque when intake, coolant, and oil temperatures start to get high 🤷♂️
Ranger raptor does a very good job of heat management, for the hd trucks you could still use a shorter trailer with a decent weight on it but also put a heavy load in the bed as well
Tongue weight?
Andre needs to take his truck up the Toaster.
Why do you guys say All Wheel Drive instead of 4WD. They are very different. The Ranger has Automatic 4WD not AWD.
Hey guys can you try this test with a Titan and Titan XD to not only see the difference between the two but to see if an old school truck can be just as capable and true to its maximum rated capacity. It would be a great send off for its last production year
Would like to see the CGVW on these Ranger and Ranger raptors. Maybe ypu all could check into it?
I didn't catch it but when you guys were talking about the tune that you got put on the truck. You guys should have talked about how it could void your warranty. It's all up to the dealership. You guys already talked about this. I just think you guys should always mention that anytime you talk about the tune.
A 3,300 pound trailer plus a 1,300 pound Acty does not equal 5,500 pounds.
Considering selling our 32' travel trailer. Kids are older and we want to do some home reno. I may sell my '17 - F350 - 6.2L Gas Lariat that's like new with 71k (it's currently Oct. 8, 2024). I might get as much as 40k back. Soooooo, what to do, what - to - do? Home reno will happen with trailer money, but I can get a Raptor or a Mustang or whatever or the Vette (used) dad always wanted. I'm 51 in a few weeks and I don't have the cash to throw around, but it would be fun to have a smaller fast car to tool around in, but I would miss having a truck to throw stuff in. Never thought I'd have these options when I hit my bottom 29 years ago.
I vote 12 -13 Boss 302!
Ok
It has the power but it doesn't have the suspension to handle heavy loads in fact it just tows as much as some 7 seater crossovers.
It's a Raptor! The Raptor brand vehicles are designed to off road and do it faster than any other vehicles available.
What 7 seat crossover tows 5500 lbs?
Am I thinking correctly by saying that, since the air is getting thinner cooling becomes more ineffective but also engine doesn't make as much power, therefore canceling out elevation cooling difficulty????
Can you get that “Tune kit” on lessor Ranger models?
Do I think vehicles are "cheap and affordable" these days, NO. But I have to agree with Roman that this vehicle, in todays market and in comparison to its competition, is a good value(RELATIVELY, once again for those in the back.)
Go back to early TFL videos and the number one biggest complaint was.................drumroll.........................how expensive truck were getting. People like to complain but you get far more in these trucks vs even 10-15 years ago let alone 20+ years ago and whether or not you want all the doo dads they do add cost. Adjusted for inflation the costs are not extreme when you consider this. Also NEVER pay retail. For crying out loud find good deals and they are out there.
Right now I can find Ranger Raptors for 5000$ off msrp if you look, hint its in Port Arthur Texas.
I mean, honestly, I think it’s a good deal even years ago. I look at this truck and compare it to my 2014 F150 Lariat Ecoboost that msrp’d for $57k and, with the exception of its size, is a better equipped truck all around.
Difference is I was able to get >20% off MSRP on my Lariat, not sure we will ever see that with these
Need to do the new Ridgeline take it on the toaster test
Some Colorado road cyclists have a straight up death wish. Determined to share the road and a cemetery.
RR seems to be by far the best of the top end mid size trucks
Tailgating the camera truck when doing these tests does not help the towing vehicle.
17:43 Hairy in this context just means stressful or unnerving. Lairy in UK means loud or obnoxious. Leary means you are suspicious.
this thing just keep killing the expectations that the industry tries to sell the consumer of what a truck could be... Nice job Ford!
It's impressive at these power levels, she pulled through, signed, chevy guy😅
Need a factory raptor tune with a warranty 👀
This one will satisfy all the comments i'd keep seeing under each video "you guys need to toast the ranger raptor!"
It did good, that is a grueling tow.
ROMAN IS OUT OF TOUCH...LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY CAN THE EMPLOYEES OF TFL AFFORD A RANGER RAPTOR?
If I didn’t value interior space so much and a little more trailering capacity I’d have a Ranger Raptor for sure.
I agree that engine trouble codes and the computer derating the engine are the first two criteria for a fail. However, the third criteria is if the transmission temperatures get too hot. If the transmission temperature gets to 212 degrees Fahrenheit frequently then the truck needs a transmission cooler. Before the test started the transmission temp was at 200 degrees Fahrenheit so the Ranger Raptor failed the test. If the transmission temp gets to 248 degrees Fahrenheit then you should look for someplace to pull over. The AutoMeter analog transmission temperature gauge starts at 100 and goes up to 250 degrees F. When analog gauges have the needle pointing straight up (11-12 o'clock position) everything is operating properly. Anything over 50% or 180 degrees F is a fail. An automatic transmission can never be too cool but too much heat damages the throttle bodies and makes the rubber seals brittle.
The transmission did not fail the test, if it did a fault code would have been flagged. There were no failures.
When you subject a transmission to high heat cycles it softens the aluminum throttle bodies and causes premature wear on the internal components. It will work fine for awhile but it will start to have blowby and the transmission won't shift properly. If you don't keep your truck very long it isn't a problem for you but it will be a problem for the next owner. The Tacoma and Ranger Raptor "normal" transmission temperature when driving around the city was around 200 degrees Fahrenheit and that's not good for long term reliability. If you think it's fine then go buy one and run the transmission as hot as you want. I don't care if you choose to shorten the life of your transmission because a warning light didn't turn on.
It’s a nice truck 👍
I might buy a 2024 ZR2 Colorado. Anyone got good reason to tell me Im making a Mistake? Should I get the Ranger XLT or Tacoma Off Road instead?
Impressive
I got into it with a guy in the comments section of a different channel (something I rarely do unless they are seriously misinformed) who was defending 10k oil changes because it's not 1960 anymore. This test brings that use case front and center. I don't care how good the oil tech has gotten, regular 240*+ engine temps and 300* trans temps on turbocharged engines will COOK vehicle fluids. Most people who use their trucks for hard use know to change fluids More Often, not less!
On LHT Performance John explains that when the engine oil passes through a hot turbo it cooks the oil and it breaks down faster. He changes oil more frequently on a track car because it is subjected to more extreme use. A truck used for towing should also get more frequent oil changes to prevent carbon build up in the engine. You don't want to leave the oil in until it starts to break down because then your engine isn't protected.
I dream of living someplace where 91 is considered hot. Heck, a few degrees lower and my wife puts long sleeves on.
Where you live is probably not at 9000’ though. There is a lot less atmosphere between you and the sun at 9000’.
Warranty? Not unless it was professionally installed and it wasn't.
You mean like, plugged in? 😂
Do any of the ford 10spds have the gear indicator for what gear you are?
They do, check the left side of the driver screen, you can see during the towing it was showing the 3rd or 4th gear
You did this same towing loop with the Raptor R correct?
They've done it with an F150, new Ram, and a Silverado.
@@lray801 I distinctly remember a uphill towing test with the raptor R not sure if it was the same towing loop though
Love the Ranger Raptor vs the other new mid-sizes, but out of all the Ford dealers in my state they all mark the RR up to ~$66K anyways. At least it tells me what dealers I'll never buy any vehicle from.
My local ford dealer in mt airy nc has had two RR and the sticker was 57.000 on the nose and no dealer mark up.
I think I may be aware of one car that would fail this test unladen..
Love that truck, but the price is what most people can't afford.
Try this with Tommy's Defender that's shadowing you.
I know that you have done this test on other vehicles but it it a fair comparison if you aren’t towing the same weight across all the vehicles? Obviously some vehicles are capable of towing more than the rest but if a vehicle that’s capable of towing 7700lbs fails and if a vehicle capable of towing 5500 passes, is it a fair comparison? The lower rated truck will fail if it breaks something. I think you need to do these tests with different weights to keep it fair.
Yes, it's fair because that's what they're rated for. Why is it fair for a maxed out truck to fail the test when a truck at half its rating does it with ease? It's all about testing the ratings and whether the truck can do what or says.
Your reviews continue to confirm the the ridiculous opinions of Motortrend in their review of the Ranger Raptor. This truck should be a strong contender for Truck of the Year but they have already ruled that out by their prejudiced earlier comments. All other reviews have praised this truck for its’ complete capabilities and execution.
Very good test but, $83665CAD for a mid size truck is a crime. Good Work Guys!
Sidesteps on midsize pick up trucks and SUVs like the Highlander…are not really functional. (unless you’re under 5 feet tall, )They’re just there to make the truck have more “accessories” and seem closer to a full-size truck
Protects the body from flying gravel.
Keeps the mud off the side of the truck and windows when you're getting crazy 😝
Why didn't you redo the Toyota Tacoma Hybrid at the same time to make it a fair comparison?
It has to be the same weight for all midsize trucks to be a comparison test otherwise it's a useless comparison.
500lbs isn't going to make that much of a difference.
I don't know. Going by what the manufacturer has rated the truck for seems fair to me.
If the truck is rated at 7k then it should pass the test as a truck rated at 5k would.
@@collinsimmons7156 its the max tow capacity test rated by the maker of the trucks
Take that lil Chinese BYD truck up the Toaster.
That engine is cooking, i see those temperatures i stop. Small turbo engines are not for towing.
Trucks fail this test because you are operating them outside of manufacturer’s recommendations. You should never tow max capacity at altitude.
Guys. The regular Ranger can tow 7500 lbs.
Talk about long-term reliability problems…. How can a motor with a plastic oil pan Have any chance of long life?
Shouldn't it be "The TFL Towster?"
That's old 5.9 cummins numbers.... Just to move that small trailer 😩😩😩
Take the Grenadier up the hill.
very stable? you are all over the line 😂😂😂😂 and all over the place 🤣🤣🤣
Two old gangsters lol
Regular Ranger is 7500lbs towing
If i went up a mountain in a truck /suv pulling anything i would leave hood popped open !!!!!!!!
The truck is no longer warrantied because you installed the tune yourself
So is the Ike still the world’s toughest towing test? I really love the testing TFL does, especially the company fleet trucks. I don’t think you’re purposely trying to damage vehicles just seeing how real world use affects these vehicles - plus it looks like fun testing all the vehicles
The toaster is at least an hour closer to the ranch, saving them 2-3 hours round trip. I expect to see much more of the toaster.
Ford needs go out business
Pulling 5500lbs with 450hp and 530lb feet of torque should be effortlessly in those conditions. Try putting that amount of weight behind a full size truck with similar power and I would bet it wouldn't struggle either. Great truck but not exactly great at towing due to suspension limitations.
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Ugly dashboard 😫😫😫 when did all cars became the same bland thing
fords are good if you get a new vehicle every 5 years
Y'all come up with the dumbest names.
I'd rather have the Honda Acty that you are towing!
So my 1995 Dodge Cummins is still better than this. 😊
Once again, another comment proving that comments that end with '😊' are made by the most braindead of people
Just donate that to the Smithsonian Institute!
Doubtful. The transmission is sure to go out.
@@melissasmess2773 Yet again, someone confirming comments ending with '☺️' are posted by special ed brigade
They would have tested that 29 years ago.
first real comment
I don't ever do the "First" thing, but I almost did when the first 4 comments were all scantily clad women declaring the their appreciation for TFL videos, and the inspiration they gain from them.
Sure, have a cookie.
And you wasted it by adding nothing to the conversation.
Blow me
The truck with the camera obstructs the air for cooling lol….
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