Deformation to a Constant Loop: Brouwer's Fixed Point Theorem for D^2

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @willbishop1355
    @willbishop1355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a couple of things would be helpful here:
    1. At 2:30, explain more clearly that you're talking about deforming the loop *within S1*, i.e., you can't just deform the entire circle into a point because this requires moving off the circle.
    2. At 5:20 or at the end, explain why the function phi doesn't work if f has a fixed point.

    • @LetsSolveMathProblems
      @LetsSolveMathProblems  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you are right, and I do admit the video is pretty informal, although this choice is mainly to allow the video to be more accessible. Here is a brief answer to your points for other interested viewers:
      1. Here by "continuous deformation of a loop in S^1", I mean the existence of a continuous map [0,1] x S^1 \to S^1 (i.e., a homotopy). In particular, at each fixed t \in [0, 1], we get a map S^1 \to S^1. I believe I was also mainly working with basepoint-preserving homotopy in the video, although this is not necessary for the argument. For your correction, I mention that it's not quite accurate to state that "you can't just deform the entire circle into a point because this requires moving off the circle": Instead, the argument is that (intuitively) there is no deformation that continuously contracts a loop into a constant loop.
      2. Note that we cannot even really draw a well-defined ray from p to f(p) if p and f(p) are not distinct points.

  • @motherflerkentannhauser8152
    @motherflerkentannhauser8152 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you meant to say at 6:20 that "if p is on S^1, then f(p) is somewhere else. But the vector starting at f(p) pointing toward p still intersects S^1 at p".

    • @LetsSolveMathProblems
      @LetsSolveMathProblems  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not quite: I believe what is stated in the video is precise. The version you suggested is inaccurate due to two reasons: 1) We really should work with a ray, not a vector, and 2) We cannot consider the ray starting at f(p) but must consider the ray starting at p because the possibility that f(p) lies on S^1 can cause continuity problems.

    • @loglnlg
      @loglnlg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LetsSolveMathProblems I think they meant what you did mean (but worded less formally), pointing to different thing: that in the video it was "ray starting at p and in the direction of this ϕ‎(p) to p vector" and not "f(p) to p vector"

    • @LetsSolveMathProblems
      @LetsSolveMathProblems  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes, you and the previous commenter are absolutely right. I should have written f(p) (not phi(p)) at 6:22. Thank you for pointing this out!

  • @depressedguy9467
    @depressedguy9467 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you go for schauder fixed point theorems then again brouwer in R^n

    • @LetsSolveMathProblems
      @LetsSolveMathProblems  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably not, as I am honestly not familiar with a proof of Schauder fixed-point theorem. Personally, the way I have seen the Brouwer's fixed point theorem proven in higher dimensions is by using homology/higher homotopy groups (see Hatcher's "Algebraic Topology") or smooth manifold theory (see Milnor's "Topology from the Differentiable Viewpoint").