Jinger Duggar SHOCKINGLY SLAMS Michelle Duggar's TOXIC Marital Advice "I'm NOT JOYFULLY AVAILABLE!"
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JInger Duggar's shocking slam of her mom Michelle Duggar's Horrible Advice for her daughters just happened. During an interview with Mayim Bialik, Jinger slammed the advice that she must be available to her husband at all times or else he will cheat on her. The advice was famously written by Michelle Duggar in a 2015 Blog and is a teaching of the IBLP.
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Jinger took a bigger step than I thought she was capable of.
Yeah, she took one giant step. From one cult right into the clutches of another. The church she is in now has its own history of covering up sexual assault. Check it out.
Jinger's come a long way, but there's still farther she can progress in terms of truly believing that within a marriage, each spouse is of equal value and deserves equal say in the decisions married couples and parents of tiny humans come across over time. The big decisions, yes, but also the day-to-day decisions. Jeremy's still got some beliefs that make me uncomfortable as a woman. But I'm not married to him or anyone following his beliefs, so it's up to Jinger.
Oh, and Katie's point about Jinger being the breadwinner really caught my attention! Jinger's STILL under a piece of that umbrella 🌂 of authority if she's intentionally glossing over the fact that she's bringing in the money AND staying home caring for their girls the vast majority of the time. She's protecting Jeremy's image by making herself smaller. I hate that.
The only one in the family that is real is Jill. Jinger is the breadwinner and the fake.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns Ha! Jinger doesn't stay at home taking care of kids!🤣🤣She and "Jer" are out making their brand....golfing, shopping...she's such a fake and is out to make that $$$.
Yeah, but like other people have said, a lot of this is because Jeremy has said these things and "allowed" her to have her own voice and take time for herself. And I think Jinger is definitely more self-aware, and thinks about scripture more critically than she ever had before, and is clearly happier than she ever was under her parents or on television (which you can tell because they don't allow anyone to show pictures of their daughters' faces). At the same time...Jeremy doing some of these things and encouraging these thoughts and independence is definitely in part to make her/their image more palatable to their community in Los Angeles and the majority of Americans.
I remember an old episode of 19 Kids and Counting where Jimbob was walking on a city sidewalk with his daughters and they kept telling him when a woman he would be walking past was dressed provocatively so he wouldn't look at them. I remember thinking how sad for his daughters that they feel responsible for their father's lack of self control and that he is completely absolved of any responsibility for himself.
I really like that you pointed out that the submissive, joyfully available mentality is a disservice to men as well as women. It reduces them down to a carnal, single-minded being incapable of self-control or independent thought and steals the opportunity for fulfilling, rich relationships with their spouses. How lonely must that be, even if you are the patriarch with all the power? Horrific for women, but also not great for the men.
Good point
I’ve always said that toxic masculinity and patriarchy hurts men as well.
Like we’re seeing over the last few years, we’re being reduced to our internal and external se* organs and anyone can be a woman 😤 including belittling women and girls who have a horrendous time with periods and our other se* specific medical conditions.
Jeremy is a terrible preacher but he might be good in business / and he needs to realize that she can get someone far better than him!
I wonder if they're even expected to have conversation with their wives? It always seems like their relationships are kind of silent. He has things that pre-occupy his time (TV, sports, hunting, fishing, yardwork etc). She has her crafts, tv, soap operas, books, church activities and of course household chores to occupy her time.
I've been married almost 30 years and wouldn't still be here if my husband ever treated me like property. It's so gross!
My first one was like that and I’m no longer there. Took me too long, though.
Why my ex husband is my ex husband!!!!
Jinger is more sharp than we give her credit for. I think some people just want her to denounce her religion fully and honestly, she does NOT need to do that. What she is speaking about is enough and shows how her thought process is currently. I’m loving it. Go Jinger!
Jinger is showing that not all Christian are like the Duggars!!!!!!
Hunger freed herself
The feminazis hate that she's a godly wife.
This is the power of education. She left the compound and expanded her horizon.
How sad for all the Duggar kids still reliant on Jom Bob who can't question any of this.
@@clevisbleiman3863actually not even a real 8th grade education... No real education beyond basic reading and writing and the very basic math. And the thing is they don't really even get taught the Bible teachings, they get taught Gothards teachings, what Gothard interpreted the Bible to mean. The kids are taught the words of Gothard, not Jesus.
8th grade educations? I thought that all of the kids completed online high school and at a minimum had a GED. Is that incorrect?
@@clevisbleiman3863 Wait! Isn't Jill a midwife?
@clevisbleiman3863 That's likely to take her quite a bit of time! She reqires A LOT of FORMAL education. She'll need her HS degree, BSN degree, MSN degree, ANP degree, AND a certification from a midwifery program. From an 8th grade level, that's going to take a while. And there's always prereqs!
Decades ago...there was a story in the news about a woman bringing charges against her husband for rape. He aggressively pinned her down, and forced himself on her. We were discussing this case with my sister-in-law and her husband. They both said---
"it is his right". I was shocked....as I view forceable sex as rape, no matter who is doing it.
The law agrees with you too. But it’s hard to prove.
Why doesn’t Jeremy work? Going to school, really? I have some very conflicting emotions about this. How many yokes is Jinger going to have strapped to her neck before she really becomes a free woman? Oh, the Duggers.
It is sicking the way her own mother taught her to always give it up as a mom to a daughter I want my daughter to respect herself & her body and know that she has a choice over her body even if she's married
I do love that she only has two kids and her youngest is three years old. That's progress right there.
True
So proud of Jinger. The only thing I can say about Michelle's advice is pure BS. Just makes me want to vomit.
Same.
Makes me glad I never married!
Seriously proud of Jinger?? She's the poster child of the modern fundamentalist movement. She's still being used.
I wanted to say what you said. I would never and I mean never listen to any advice that Michelle Duggar would ever offer. It is clear that this family is uneducated, closed minded and they listen to what others say in a church and apply it to their lives as the divine truth. Look at the mess they have created or caused in their own lives as well as for others. The fact that any of them are offering advice, or even have a platform to offer advice, I find unbelievable. I wouldn't buy a book, watch a TV show, I would never support this family in any way. I do love Katie Joy and I support her and her channel. I also enjoy Katie's point of view, evidence or gossip that she shares and that is the only reason I listen to anything about the Duggar's. My husband is from Arkansas and he told me shortly after we started dating and pursuing a relationship that the Duggar's are hated in Arkansas. He told me the damage that they have caused to the LGBTQ+ community and the political mentality that they support. After he told me the the back story of the Duggar family, I started researching on my on. What has happened with Josh and Anna, with all of the issues concerning Josh and Anna, Michelle and Jim Bob still attempt to cover up, I just don't understand. This is a truly horrible family and never one that I would invest one dime in. If there is a magazine at the grocery store and there is one word mentioned about them on the cover, I refuse to buy the magazine even if there is a story that I want to read. I refuse to give them any money or spend any money on anything that they produce or is produced about them, except Katie Joy.
@@toddbooth-smith5474so you'd listen to Katie's OPINION on what she thinks is going on than Jinger, whose life it is. 😂😂😂😂
I am so happy that Jinger and Jill both married men who don't view them as property. On a side note, I cannot imagine having to be joyfully available to JimBob Duggar. Yuck
Mrs Dan Dare here to say I echo your feelings. The thought is just 🤢🤮
😂
Yep.. did I dream this or did they say on the show he has trouble with halitosis??? Correct me if I am wrong please
Totally agree! My husband of almost 30 years has never treated me like his property. I’m so thankful for my husband. He loves me for me. I feel bad for women like Michelle who are subservient to their husbands.
Michelle has mentioned his terrible breath on more than one occasion.
It's still shocking to me that anyone takes marriage advice from a man that has never even been married.
Right!!!!!
And parenting advice 🧐
A Religion created by a man for men.
The blanket training is child abuse. Michelle is a horrible mother and a foolish woman.
Jeremy has it made.
Jinger has really come a long way. The fact that they blame the women if husband cheats is abhorrent to me. I am proud of her
Yeah he will go have someone else "iron his shirt" and it's the wife's fault. What a load of bs. I feel bad for all the girls in that family and in that cult. Am glad Jinger has learned a thing or 2 and will teach her children better
I'm not married and probably will never be. But in my opinion, I think if a man is going to want his wife to be "available" even when they are sick, depressed, on their cycle, whatever the situation, that makes him sound like a jerk. Why would he not have any kind of compassion? "You have a migraine...I want to make love...sucks for you!" That is just awful!!
This honestly sounds like rape…..not your comment! But her advice. I’ve been in that controlling relationship it doesn’t feel good
I had hyperemesis when I was pregnant. I couldn't fathom having to "iron his shirts" on demand at all, let alone during that time. I remember one morning, all my husband said was "good morning", and the smell and feel of his breath on my neck made me vomit. I couldn't imagine any man saying "hey, lemme tap that after you rinse your mouth out".
Obviously what she means by being “joyfully available” is being happy all the time and be ready “on command” without consent. I bet she would help take care of her husband if he’s sick and to be attentive, but it’s the consent issue and to always have babies
This is the teaching I grew up with. I feel so much anger, now, looking back on how I wasted so much energy and attention on men, when I could've been living my best life without them. Never again.
Gurl, you got that right!
I so agree!
It is never too late. I am 58 years old and would like to think my best days are ahead of me. I grew up in a narcissistic family and am just now realizing the damage and pain it has inflicted. Knowledge and self help are the key to liberation. 🎉
Michelle was not raised this way, she was a cheerleader in high school ,short skirt & all. Nor did she save her first kiss for marriage. It was after marrying Jimbob that she changed.
I imagine Michelle telling the story of her high school years to her courting daughters and them looking at one another jaws on the floor in awe. They can only dream of such an unattainable free-spirited lifestyle. It's so sad to think about...
@@dayaizsexy Right? LOL
JB began his brainwashing on Michele the day she married him. Sad.
I love that Jinger went this far!!! But confused why you keep saying "when Michelle was younger she was taught these kinds of principles." It was my understanding that,according to Jim Bob, Michelle was living a "sinful life" and had only just barely "found religion" a few months before meeting him. She was ripe for the picking I guess you could say... she had just discovered religion and then JB comes along and she gets starry eyed over him, then some crazy advice is given to her by this friend of hers and she goes all in with JBs religion likely to please him and seem more appealing to him. Classic signs of low self worth.
Yes. Michelle wasn't raised like that.
Wait. Hasn't Jermy been creditably quoted as saying that Jinger needs to pray that he doesn't cheat on her? Why, yes, he has. It's out there for anybody who cares enough to look for it. Seems to me that is STILL putting the burden on the women to keep their husbands faithful.
Yes, I have shared this on my channel
Maybe Jinger, who seems to be strong willed, is actually teaching Jeremy a thing or two. Maybe he’s getting educated and is learning that a wife is more than a sexual slave. It’s possible and I’m trying to be optimistic here because I want to see both of them succeed.
Straight up, I’m happy Jinger has some hobbies now but I straight up never trusted Jeremy
So, in IBLP, if a husband cheats, it's not a sin? Just wiffy's fault. Their church would blame her, I know that,but wouldn't he be guilty of adultery? Talk about a man's world!
One can hope that it is his way of asking for support (like you'd pray for someone struggling with anything else) and not that he means it is her fault if he does stay. Who besides him really knows his inner thoughts, but I hope that it is a more enlightened mentality than just placing the burden on her alone.
It’s time to say enough and the IBLP must be brought down!!!! Jinger slams her mom and rightfully so!!!
Makes me feel sad for Joy Anna. 😔 I imagine her marriage is VERY different from Jill & Jinger's.
She looks happy to me. Not everyone is a feminazi.
💥NEWSFLASH💥. Women are ALLOWED TO WANT CHILDREN AND TO STAY HOME AND RAISE THEM. You all are ruining this country.
Im glad Jill doesnt seem to follow her mothers advise and now Jinger is openly disagreeing with this advise as well. We need more conversations like this. As someone who was raised very religious i'd hear alot of the bs Michelle says so im glad women from this cult are thinking for themselves.
The advice Michelle gave is ludacris, because men will still go somewhere else no matter what you give them, they'll cheat if that's in their nature, and then they'll call you stupid for letting them walk all over you! When you think about Michelle having to sleep in a chair because her back was so bad and it hurt terribly, when you think of her just giving birth, and not having time to heal, and still having to slap on a smile, and give Jim Bob whatever he wants, whenever he wants it, it's sickening!
and it shows how sadistic jimbob is, which shows where the son gets it from.
Thank you for doing this segment. This was great. Good for her, she deserves to be free. She's already gone through hell. I feel like Michelle could learn from her daughter so not to potentially damage the rest of her daughters.
Preach it Jinger!!
I was hoping you would find this interview. I am a HUGE fan of Mayim Bialik (and I have been so since childhood). I love her podcasts so this was a double whammy of intrigue. As a Jewish person who wants to understand fundamentalist Christians better, I really got a lot from this.
If you are Jewish and want to understand fundamentalist Christians better, look no further than orthodox Judaism, or even fundamentalist Islam. They are all male centric religions based on the concept that women are lesser beings, although ironically without the unpaid labor of the women in them there would BE no religion.
Good to see she was able to shrug off the shackles of her childhood.
Just because Jeremy is in graduate school, does not mean he is not earning any income. Many grad students get paid to teach and work for their “mentor”/“sponsor”/supervising professor. Some graduate students in ministry even work paid positions in churches. We don’t know what all Jeremy does. No doubt Jinger does bring in much of their family income, but she is not necessarily the sole breadwinner.
They are working as a team and I am happy for jinger that Jeremy has opened her eyes. They are working together so therefore it is their money . Not his and hers... If he was a dead beat then it would be her money
Huge step for Jinger I’m shocked she went that deep but so proud of her.
A woman shouldn’t have to always be “joyfully available”!
IMO it’s akin to the R word!
I was never always “joyfully available”, and my husband has always been faithful to me, and I to him! I always say that I never have to worry about him doing anything he shouldn’t when he is away! We’ve been married 45 years!
Same here!
Michelle Duggar’s description of marital intimacy sounds about as s*xy as a case of hives. It’s an absolutely non-biblical way of viewing marriage: instead of a covenant, you get a contract. No, thanks.
Im trying to picture those words coming out of my moms mouth and she would explode!!! Oh my god!! Both my parents did a very good job at making shure i had to rely on no man and absolutely did not consider myself less nor bow down to some magical appointed authority! I can't believe thats a mother's advice to her daughter or literally anyone!
I am glad she has said this about the cult.
I just feel pleased for her, she must feel much more happy and secure without all the unnecessary pressure of " freely available "
Wow good for her!!!! I am surprised she was so bold! Good for her!!! 👍👏👏👏
I get so very angry about “joyfully available”. Jim Bob can deal with himself if he’s so pent up on a day when Michelle is exhausted. And I can venture a guess that he has given her a total of zero o’s during their marriage. I’m so very happy than I’m not religious, and especially not fundamentally religious. I’m glad Jinger is waking up in some aspects.
I thought the same thing.. all o e sided
Did t it say it is not good for man to be alone so God created woman..
It does not say it is not good for a man to be sexless... So i will create woman
@@terrihartung7837 if men are so fragile they need women to baby them, that's their problem
Do these people even understand the exhaustion of new moms? Supposedly Michelle's advice for being "joyfully available" was given to her by a new mom but I have a hard time believing it. Having a new baby is _exhausting_ and some women may have PPD and need extra help. What she does _not_ need at that moment is judgement for not being "joyfully available". She's trying to keep her child alive. That's a huge thing.
I'm 99% sure the quote from Michelle's blog quoted under a pseudonym nearly or verbatim what the Debi Pearl IBLP cult book says. The book actually goes further and says that a woman is wicked if she isn't enjoying it when she isn't in the mood.
You just don’t get it…have a passel of daughters to raise your kids, do the laundry, housework, and homeschool their younger siblings so you can be joyfully available…INSERT SARCASM
Way to go, Jinger
I just cant wrap my head around the fact that Michelle Duggar expects every one of her adult daughters to follow made up practices!!! She didn't follow majority of these practices herself growing up! She went to a school and was a Cheerleader. i could just imagine the Duggar sisters wishing they could've had such a fruitful upbringing. Simple joyful things like silly random dancing and wearing pants or challenging male authority ...hypocritical. These girls were set up for failure from birth.
How about expecting HIM to be joyfully freaking available to ME.
Why does it always have to be on their terms?
Can't wait to listen to her on the Breakdown. Thank you for this, Katie!
really not much new in the podcast but this part was interesting
I refused to be joyfully available to my spouse so they got their shirts ironed elsewhere. We are no longer together but I have no regrets abt refusing to be joyfully available. Great episode, KJ. Thanks for your perspective ❤
Joyfully available means wearing a dress at all times to have easy access for the husband! Ugh!!!
oh my
Why do you think the girls can't wear pants? Those long full skirts hide Josh's hands and what he was doing to his 5 year old sister.....pants would have put his hands on display and where they were. And the shorts the girls started wearing under their skirts? Didn't even slow him down, but the long flowing skirts did a great job of hiding nasty hands. Which I think is the main reason the girls are forced to wear them instead of pants that would have protected the girls a bit better.
Cracked me up about her being a stay-at-home mom. I'm glad you addressed that she is also the sole breadwinner. Seems to me Jermy's only job is to pose for pictures, shop for Nikes, and eat his way through every expensive eating establishment in LA. When does he even have time to attend classes? He knew what he was doing when he hitched his cart to a Duggar girl. 🙄
I disagree. Jinger just got done saying how Jeremy helps with the kids, house, etc. and isn't he in seminary? Plus, good for him for supporting her and encouraging to think and act as an individual and not just following all of mommy and daddy's rules. She seems like she is enjoying her lifestyle in LA.
NO THATS GIVING THE MAN AN OUT A LAME EXCUSE TO LEAVE AND GO OUT AND DO WHAT HE WANTS
Yay you are covering the video that I sent you! I am dying laughing at all the freeze-frame shots of Michelle.
Michelle didn’t grow up in that church and the story was she wore bikinis and had a normal teen upbringing until Jim Bob appeared on the scene.
My wife makes “joyfully unavailable” jokes to turn me down, haha. We both love your channel!
That said, I don’t think it’s entirely right to repeatedly turn down your spouse without talking or addressing why. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to, but sometimes “meh” or “I’m not in the mood but we can try” can turn into something. You should communicate!
Let’s not forget that Bill Gothard never married and doesn’t have kids.
That he's admitted to!
@@daveshoemaker7137 fair
Mayim's Podcast is the best! She is such a smart woman touching all subjects in a very diplomatic way
I watch that podcast all the time! I love it, but im shocked that Jinger went on that show for some reason. Im so proud of her though for sharing her story and especially relate to the struggle of an eating disorder.
So often the roots of a eating disorder is trauma of some sort.....being ra*ped by your 14-15 year old brother would qualify as trauma I think.
Wow good for her saying these words is a big deal go Jinger. Mayim is a great host
I’m so glad some of the girls are learning to have minds of their own. I hope as their younger siblings come along and become adults they can see things can be different and that is ok.
Okay I'm going to get a little explicit I'd hand a bottle lotion and some paper towels.....sorry it's true
It reduces women to property. Sick.
I watched the interview very early this morning (I’m subscribed to Mayim’s channel already) and came away from it really happy for Jinger. She makes a good example.
I love Mayim, and her podcast! One thing I noticed was that Jinger either wasn't completely honest with her though, is that she said that they were lucky that her parents believed in giving them a real education. Maybe, she just doesn't know what she doesn't know. Hopefully she will realize how much their education lacked when her kids are in school. I would also like to see her speak to the corporal punishment issue. Maybe they'll have a follow up. It would be great if Jinger would let you interview her....maybe someday...
After Michelle saying “big pregnant and still joyfully available” over and over I can’t help but wonder if these women get 6weeks to heal after their multiple births or if they truly have to be joyfully available at any time😞
I remember reading once that Michelle said that they waited 41 days after the boys were born & 66 days after the girls were born to have s3x again.
If money was not a requirement to live, women would be the most powerful people in a household.
The whole being joyfully available thing is something Josh also heard Im sure, so he figured all women should just put out whenever and a hormonal boy probably thought about it all the time, specially when his mother was pregnant 24/7 and he had to know what caused that. That whole family is so jacked up because of their stupid beliefs.
I can't believe she's said something negative about her mom Michelle!
Jinger didn’t say anything negative about her mom, ONLY that she disagrees what she was taught by her mother on that big issue! All daughters have to find out what works for them! Everybody should agree that MICHELLE screwed up royally in being totally available for her man!!! And this fly on the wall wants to say, how well did that work out for Michelle, when rumor has it, JB was doing favors for certain Widows?!?! So, no matter how much Michelle met that Horn Dogs needs, JB was still out there sniffing around elsewhere!!! So, does that mean ALL the DUGGER MEN are ALL SICK PERVERTS?!?! Look at Josh, then at JB. There is something that ain’t right with the men in that family!!! Are they ALL SEX DEVIANTS?!?!
She had it coming. Hilarious in this religion they are expected to be so chaste but the minute the ring is on their fingers they become their husbands whores.
I thought Jinger revealed more of herself to Mayim than I have seen in other interviews. Mayim was respectful in her questioning, yet she didn't let up. She got to some hard questions, but Jinger never refused to answer any of them. Mayim even used the word cult and Jinger agreed! Big respect for both of them.👍
During my marriage, happily divorced now 9 years, I was injured during a surgery. I have not been the same since. I live with a lot of medical conditions & issues. I have had more surgeries than I care to remember & procedures that would leave me with a tube coming out of my side draining in a bag at time. My husband would want me to be joyfully available with staples holding my incision closed & sometimes having staples & the drainage tube. The last thing I wanted was sex. I would accommodate him as best as I could. Sometimes he would be joyful & others degrading. He is a narcissist, abuser mentally, emotionally, verbally, & yes sexually. I would be saying “NO” inside but joyfully on the outside. I will never let another man do that to me again!! Thank-you Katy for reminding us that it takes two & both have the right to say NO!!
Jana is like…….. I’m out!
I distinctly remember her saying after marrying Jeremy he was out at work or something and he had a lot of books on numerous topics. They were there, she could read anything she wanted. As an avid reader and I loved the freedom & sense of safety and comfort a book gave I encourage children to read. I remember an English teachers saying we could read anything, if that was a book, magazine, comic…she didn’t mind, it was reading. I used to love the local library, when I began teaching I knew I wanted to help children enjoy reading. I became the person to were behind, my title for that was chief reading champion 😂 the children were all my reading champions, including the ones who struggled…sadly, there’s two huge reasons why children struggle.
They aren’t developmentally ready for it when basic phonics were taught.
The second is poor teaching, sadly that was 2 friends. 1 taught them at 4/5 and the other at 6. Both thought teaching phonics was a quick flash of the sound and do the action, now off you go and colour in the sheet 😤at a point I had to really push for a group of children to be completely re taught. A couple of years ago I saw the dad of one of the bows. He made me cry, his son was at university!!! All the arguments I had about children missing literacy with their class while they could only pretend write like a toddler made it all worth it. The hours spend making resources…
Another child in the same group was a lovely girl, maybe a bit eccentric, but I was weird anyway and I said you don’t have to be like everyone else. Ok, her mum came to see me for parents evening, parent/ teacher conference and she cried 😢I was so concerned, I asked why and she said no one had EVER said Jessica was doing well in all her time at school.
I was so proud of her one day, she wanted to read to her class, she sat at the front ready with her book, an unkind girl smirked and said “that’s my level book s d she can’t read that” to her neighbour, Jessica read it word perfect! I did have a word about kindness with that little miss!
A true biblical marriage is soo amazing.. "bear each other's burdens" "love one another" "rejoice with those who rejoice,mourn for those who mourn..."
Joyfully unavailable LMFAO!!!! Hilarious!! Yeah NO WAY would I ever be forced to be joyfully available when I don't want to be available. Such BS!!!
I don’t like how she says they are equal “now”…like were they not always like that, or does this come back to where she thought she was less than and had to bow down, and Jeremy told her that’s not what he wanted?
This makes me sad that these young women don't have their needs met and how abuse is tolerated. I mean, what kind of perversion could Anna have experienced from Josh. Ugh!
I watched this interview this morning, it was great! Jinger clearly trusted her, I loved every minute. Mayim is my favorite, she was so smart in how she worded her questions. Excellent.
How disgusting. Michelle got married when she was 17. So what was this older woman telling Michelle all of the this when Michelle was what, like a 16 year old high school student. Gross.
I haven't watched the whole thing, but Mayim is such a good interviewer.
I watched the whole interview. It was really well done - and Jinger has become so eloquent as she's grown up. Mayem was a great interviewer.
This language from Michelle reminds me of the song “Desiree” by Blood Orange, a song about “working girls” (if you catch my drift, iykyk). the musician used this sound bite:
“If you're married, a woman in the suburbs:
A regular woman is married to her husband,
And she wants him to buy her a washer and dryer set;
In order for him to buy that,
I'm sure she'd have to go bed with him anyway to give him what he wants
For her to get what she wants.
So in the long run, it all ends up the same way”
Sorry about all the comments but this video really made me think. As far as corporal punishment goes, I did used to believe in it. I thought it was okay. I now no longer believe in any kind of corporal punishment of children. There are so many other things you can do as a parent. You do not have to hit your children and I agree that teaches them bad things. My husband has two grown daughters who are loving, kind, beautiful women and he never hit them; not even once. He did not use any corporal punishment at all. They knew when he did that "finger snap and point at you" thing they were in deep doo doo. LOL That would probably get their attention even today.
I completely agree! Consent does not fly out the window, when you get married. Everyone has the right to say "No", man or woman.
Go Jill! Keep moving foreward! Maybe some of your siblings will open their eyes.
How sick and twisted Mama Mich is 😔 Glad Jinger is her own person and doesn’t take the terrible advice her mother gave her. The more I hear about the IBLP the more it sounds like a sex cult!!!
Good for Jinger! Break that cycle!!
That's disgusting. This makes me want to be single... lol
I just going to say it out right in truth. This teaching is underneath women, coming from men that are so out of God’s way of marriage. I remember one time, I was three weeks pregnant with our third child. My husband woke me up, told me I needed to iron his shirt for work. I stood in cold basement, no shoes, just a night gown. I was throwing up while I ironed his shirt. I gave it to my husband and told him, “I will never iron another shirt for you again, you heard me throwing up. Yet you did nothing to help me”! I never ironed another shirt of his again.
Any man who thinks your “jOy” should be available for him 24/7 doesn’t deserve a wife!!!
Wow! Go Jinger
I wonder if Michelle is really happy in her own marriage. Her advice to her daughters was really the worst advice she could give. So glad Jinger and Jill found their own way in their marriages
As someone who has been married to the same man for over 30 years and 3 grown kids later, what a load of crap!!!! Married or not , both of you still have agency over your own bodies. That's what makes a good marriage better, true intimacy comes from love and understanding, not from getting it whenever and whatever you want, ignoring the feelings of the other. That's completely selfish and misses the whole point of being there for each other. If a man leaves because of that, he's horrible and an idiot, and you never had real loving intimacy anyway.
In a marriage, there are times when either party is "not available" and that's okay. There will be times when both are available, too. That's what marriage is. I have long disagreed with the "joyfully available" preaching because it makes women not much more than a servant. Women are not servants and they are not here to "serve" their husbands. A couple is here to both make the world a better place and to both grow and become everything they are meant to be...together. Michelle Duggar's teaching removes the aspect of that couple trying to make the world a better place and leave it in a better condition than when they found it because she's all about what Jim Bob wants all the time. The world is bigger than Jim Bob.
I live in the town next to the town in which Jeremy grew up he grew up in Chester County Pennsylvania where life is normal he wouldn't expect crazy things from his wife so I figured eventually normalcy would have to come to that grouping because her husband grew up as a normal American
It boggles my mind to think the followers of Gotthsrd hang onto and follow his every word. Realistically Gotthard was never married so why would anyone take him as their authority on marriage. Same for a Catholic priest who isn't married.
Hi Katie Joy, I firmly believe Jinger is moving leaps and bounds away from JimBob and Michelle hold on her. This is very nice to see. Glad to hear Jeremy allowing Jinger to have her own, and hobbies. Jinger and Jeremy discuss things and work together to make the right decisions. All I have say is "Go Jinger, Go Girl!"
Reminds me of this creature in a show on OWN who told his wife that he has needs, and even when she’s sick from chemotherapy to treat her CANCER, she is still expected to perform…..and it’s just mind over matter.
Well I would make up my MIND that he doesn’t MATTER!!! Just take your “jOy” and leave the jerk!
Also important to have hobbies. My mom played tennis and biked when I was small, and is in great shape for her age. I was also able to learn about classic rock music, sailing, and storytelling from my dad. He loves to retell his boating adventures!
I tease him about one story he tells about sailing from California to Mexico and saw a shark. “Hey, doesn’t that shark get bigger and closer every time you tell it?”
Mayim’s interview with Jinger was one of my favourites. Jinger was so relaxed with Mayim during the interview. It was a really good one.
Wow! I’m so, so impressed with Jinger!
She has really grown as a person.
I like being joyfully unavailable!!!!! 😅
With advances in AI technology, Gothard should be able to create himself a Stepford Wife soon. I’m glad Jinger has woken up.
This was the first time I’ve actually heard her be intelligent and honest…
I actually felt compassion for her.
My husband and I have been married for ten years. Sometimes, intimacy is sex. Sometimes, it’s falling asleep next to each other. Each are intimate actions.
I have 5 adult children. My husband and I have both agreed that their relationships as adults is 100% on them. We will not speak ill off nor fight their battles with their siblings for them. Period.
Your relationships with your siblings as young adults, in my opinion, are a learning curves into emotional maturity that allows them to grow as adults in general especially with other relationships in their lives.
Also, this teaches them how to establish boundaries which is a pivotal part of emotional growth and maturity. Our job as parents to ADULT children is to ALWAYS respect each child's boundaries and to encourage they do the same.
Robyn is and continues to emotionally stunt her children. This will most likely cause major issues in their future and for their future relationships.
I REALLY! hope she is being truthful because if Jeremy actually does that stuff (helping with the kids) and encouraged to find and do her own things like finding a hobby, that actually would make taken a bit of kinder view of Jeremy. My husband was not like that and that's part of why I'm working towards a divorce. If this true I am elated for her, she was always on of favs and I wish her and all kids, but especially they older because I've been able to relate to them, all the best...
Look where “joyfully available” got Michelle : 19 Kids and Counting!!
I watched the interview with Myiam before this and I had thought you would do a post on it. I was shocked that Jinger watches The Office and Seinfeld and listens to country music and Kanye! Too bad you didn’t mention these shockers, at least they shocked me!