Mastering Vortex Ring State Recovery: Standard Techniques and the Vuichard Method

[@amymathewsairborne]

Appreciate the distinction between responses when in a clockwise rotation vs. counterclockwise rotation. 👍 There's a great video online showing the Vuichard recovery technique where a rig is attached that sprays a curtain of mist under the helicopter resulting in a gorgeous visual representation of what vortex ring state looks like.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks Amy!

[@martinleicht5911]

Yes,,I saw that !! ✌😎

[@johnmcneal9477]

I am really enjoying your video series have picked up a ton of ideas and techniques on operations and flight. My wife has been telling me for the last year or so to "stop just talking about an airplane and just get going on the ground school". But after watching your videos (and a few others) I am leaning away from fixed wing aircraft and more towards a helicopter certification. In my home state of Alaska a helicopter would open up areas that the fixed wing crowd can only dream about. I live on a small farm and it would be a huge plus to be able to convert part of our barn to a hanger and fly out of my home. 😁

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you John I appreciate the feedback!

[@agentorange153]

Well, why not go for a dual rating? Or would cost of training be an issue?

[@scottysansone5884]

That sounds amazing.

[@brianrutledge575]

Great demonstrations. These videos are passing along excellent information to student pilots and pilots of any rating.

[@HelicopterGround]

Absolutely!

[@jamesmiller8591]

I was only trying to traditional method and I wonder why? Oh well they both work let’s hope we never have to use them great video guys thank you

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing your expereince

[@airspeed_alive]

That was brilliant and explained well, thanks

[@HelicopterGround]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@YinYangDPW]

Please discuss Vortex Ring State in the context of a co-axial rotor system. Would the tip vortices cancel each other out ?
If so, just another reason in favor of co-axial rotor design.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@agentorange153]

I don't think they will, because one rotor will disrupt the airflow around the other, thus preventing it from cancelling out anything -- so there won't be much of a difference!

[@agentorange153]

Excellent techniques -- and I didn't know that one, I only knew about the traditional method! One question: would it be an accurate analogy to say that vortex ring state in a helicopter is the equivalent of a stall in an airplane?

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback. I would say no it's not the equivalent.

[@agentorange153]

@@HelicopterGround Thanks for the info!

[@agentorange153]

@downloadpizza2547 Thanks! So, the best way to put it is that these are SIMILAR, but NOT QUITE THE SAME -- right?

[@christopherpeters5916]

Airspeed is king. Neutral control, pitch forward, get it flying again. 😢. Correct sir? N711ja.

[@HelicopterGround]

Moving into clean air is key.

[@beniceffs]

I get what you are saying but I don't think you did like for like. On the conventional recovery you appeared not to start the recovery until you had 900'rod and did a very gentle recovery. On the Vuichard method you started at 500'rod. Also you are not in Vortex ring, only possibly incipient vortex ring. Full vortex ring would give a rod of considerably more than 500fpm.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback

[@martinleicht5911]

What would happen if you did the opposite ?? 🤔

[@HelicopterGround]

You would not recover

[@martinleicht5911]

👍

[@nwanchorcertification]

Hope you don’t chop the tail off

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@stephen5147]

I can think of NO reason to do the Traditional recovery instead of the Vuichard recovery... no advantage.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting