The funniest thing is, when the ambassadors were leaving, one of them said something like "That's why we never try to reason with you humans, you're so uncivilized."
The imperium was not ready for that so to say that they are uncivilized is a insult that’s not needed I think but still.
i can only imagine him with a tophat andsipping his tea while saying that
This is either says how civilized the ork have become or the imperium has really gone the shitter and become that uncivilized (i believe the second reason)
Right, when orks start sending diplomats that request an immediate surrender, i will surrender. Im not risking a fight with orks smart enough for diplomacy
Tbf, the high lord's of terra were in favor of surrender. But the lord commander of the imperium and the lord of assassin's guild refuse.
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Ah yes and the day after that,the imperium loose billions of death because of a damn trap of the orks
They should have challenged the orcs to a blood ball championship.
Peace for eternity...
@@slent5346 it’ll basically be “Throw as far as possible and have your tallest man grab the ball and score goals” much like my Highschool football team
Honestly, the most insane thing here is not the fact that it took Vulkan to finally take down the Beast or anything else, but it was the fact that they spoke in perfect gothic. That's like saying a Hippo strolled up to you and asked you in perfect English where the restaurant is.
More like walked up and demanded you and the rest of humanity's immediate surrender
If i remember correctly even Vulkan had problem with the Beast as he was stronger. Now imagine power of the Krorks :P
it's not surprising that xenos can speak high gothic. I remember in another story a female Tau soldier also spoke it with a Mcraggian accent, using it as an attempt at being spared. She was crushed under a boot.
They came to the High Lord's of Terra saying calmly in unison.... "I'm a diplomat, I'm a diplomat, I'm a diplomat"
THANK YOU! The smartest piece of wit I've seen on youtube in a long time.
Orks[sends diplomats to surrender terra]
The Imperium: ILL FUKIN FIGHT YOU WITH EVERY SINGLE INCH OF THIS FUCKING PLANET, GUARDS MEN GET YOUR ASS BQCK HERE BOI
That was basically the solution, only dumber. The ecclesiarch screamed "HOLY CRUSADE" and basically half the planet armed itself and went with every ship at hand to attack the moon and not even the orks could beat back the uncountable billions of half starved fanatics charging them.
Ork bios : you are legends am just following orders everyone wants to fight 😃
The sad truth is that the actual response from the Imperium was panicked blustering. They made themselves look like fools and the ork ambassadors looked more intelligent and dignified by comparison
When the smarter orks have better diplomacy than the imperium, you know you guys are pretty messed up
ohh you think they were gonna be nice if earth surrendered. lol When they arrived they declared themselves the end of humanity. also Orks like to eat their slaves.
@@1deathupondawn1 Yea so does the imperium, only the orkz however don't start shooting immediately unlike the imperium that shoots if they see anything non human.
@@NoNameTaken117 That's just a meme though. The Imperium regularly works together with the Aeldari, sometimes with Tau and even with the Necrons.
@@halorecon95 Only if the situation is dire, like say tyrranids, chaos, or orkz
@@NoNameTaken117 let's beging with the fact that there are no non-human factions to have reasonable diplomacy with. You are offering to negotiate with whom?
I’ve always loved the idea that if enough Orks got together under a Warboss that the Warboss would evolve back into a Krork. Probably would need literally all Orks in the entire galaxy together to put GorkaMorka back together but one Boss becoming a “Kross” doesn’t seem infeasible for the psychic mushrooms.
@@ezachleewright2309 one is cunningly brutal and the other is brutally cunning
Narrator voice: it turns out the end was not at hand
@@icewallowpiss7569 that is simultaneously the best and most out-of-place thing I've ever read
Idk... something about having to bring in a primarch to kill an ork does kinda indicate that shit was going bad.
@@suracha8130 I was recently at a party where a man on various substances told me all about how his pancreas doesn't work, just to add to this weird chain.
@@operationd--msday wait his whole ass pancreas just didn't work? Poor feller
War of the Beast got so hectic it led to the Iron Warriors forming an alliance with the Imperial Fists.
It also included the Iron Warriors seeing the Ork plan for humanity and being actually disgusted by it. When you can make an Iron Warrior say “dude, that’s messed up” you know you’re doing something wrong and/or right
@@PikachuLittle Hmm. The Iron Warriors would be the only chaos warband that would actually make a sane decision like that.
@@KossolaxtheForesworn May I introduce you to the multitude of horrors manufactured by the dark eldar?
"The War of The Beast was weird"
- Lord Adornable
So there are still some krorks left!
Fun thing, the orks are one of the only races to be able to regain what was lost, as Ghazgul is well on his way to re-evolving into a krork.
Actually, The Beast was only demi-krork, and still he managed to stalemate duel with Primarch Vulcan, which tells a lot about power of the actual ones
"Left" might not be the right word. They DID all regress, it's just that they got back to that level.
Pokemon Grandmaster Trazyn the Infinite has one Krork displayed in his carefully curated collection.
DAOT Humanity: Sign this non-aggression pact or we will erase your kind towards extinction
Orks: Ok plz don't kill us 🥹
**Millennium later**
Orks: *Well, well, well. How the turntables*
That never happened in the lore. All sources about orks during the DOAT mention them never appearing in big enough numbers to matter to humanity. Likely because the eldar had been working to keep them contained till their empire imploded.
@@ralphpangallo5960 DAOT Humanity would have annihilated any Ork who dared to fight against them.
The Imperium truly lucked out that they hadn't evolved back into Krorks
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He was more like a proto-krork. He was bigger than any ork at the time but he's quite weaker than a proper krork.
@@keikei2942 The only Krork we have ever seen is in Trazyns vault. We know the beast isn't a krork because he is several meters smaller then the description they gave to Trazyns krork. The beast was just an ork that had spent an unknown number of time winning and gathering waaagh energy.
It's all heresy and crusades until the Orks start talking perfect Gothic.
It's Scarier when a Known enemy with the English of a broken toddler, speaks perfect English in front of you and lets you know what's about to happen.
Krork: We bring the end of Humanity!
Vulkan: And I took it personally.
Imagine being a high lord and a wierdly tall Ork wearing a nicely tailored suit and his nicest Dakka walks into your office and hands you a surrender treaty.
I'd be fucking flabbergasted.
"I rubbed extra polish on this. If this impresses yeh, wait til Oi show you my choppa."
The funniest thing about the Beast, is that he was the least bestial of all orks
The imperium caught a rare glimpse at what the orks once were and it terrified them.
@@your-username-here2308 no. No no no no no no. It’s not “just talking xenos”. It’s talking *ORKS.* Despite what the memes online will tell u, the imperium understands the differences between xenos races. They know the orks don’t do peace talks, they don’t do negotiation. That level of higher civilized thinking is beyond them. So when one starts utilizing these things, they understand the significance of such a thing. That these orks had evolved seemingly overnight to be more advanced than any previously fought.
I find it shocking the orks would negotiate themselves out of a good fight
They had something else they wanted. Perhaps the Beast foresaw the growth of Chaos or the arrival of the Tyranids and knew the imperium would be an impediment to destroying those threats. After all, even the Orks do not want the galaxy wiped clean of all life.
If these guys were reaching Krork level, I can see them not wanting to waste time on what they probably saw as a garunteed win.
@@Hello-lf1xs I dunno, Terra is one of the most well defended planets in the Imperium.... or maybe that happened AFTER big E got put on the chair.
Gazkhull had to do the same thing with his boys. Their was a book talking about his past from the perspective of his Grot Banner Waver Makari. Gaz had a vision that the Gods would provide a way off the planet and told them they had to wait, the Orks hated this idea of sitting around and doing nothing which is where Gazkhull used a tactic he just made up called “the beating of the minds” where he used an Orks competitive nature to make them calm down and not kill anything. Told them how any true Ork wouldn’t want to give up and a True Ork can beat anything. So if their tough as they all say they are then they can beat nothing and to prove it Gaz would stand on the balcony overlooking the City, refusing to move until an answer from the Gods presented itself. All the Orks said variations of “if Gazkhull can do it than I can do it! I’ll beat Nothing better than everyone else!”
" GO BACK! I WANT TO BE KRORK! " - The Beast
You know it’s the end times when the ORKS try *diplomacy*
Straight up started to evolve back into their higher forms
Orks have the power to literally manifest things into reality but just don't realize it. So that means smarter orks would be the strongest faction in the 40k universe.
Which is why the Necrons have weapons that (effectively) erase things from existence! 💀
(Probably why it also took the Eldar + Krorks + Old Ones to get the Necrons to chill out for a few million years 🤣)
No. Smarter Orks would know that their vehicles missing crucial parts like engines and fuel would not run.
While current Orks are too dumb to see the issue.
Smarter Orks would have a lot less use of their ability because they don't just manifest things through psychic magic, they warp reality through a collective belief that this is how things are.
The thing about that is that it requires you actually, truly and honestly believe it to be irrefutable fact.
I could not make people believe my car built from scrap would run but for Orks it's car-shaped so of course it'll run.
@@GamerGrovyle I think this ability would just be used in a different direction. If they were intelligent enough to obviously see the flaws and fix them. They would just twist how this power works. Their confidence as a race and warriors would be even higher fueled by intelligence. Their inventors aswell could easily create even better tech through belief it's possible. I think the biggest danger would be them truly understanding the reality altering nature of their hive mind and learn to focus it on mass on purpose towards goals. As it stands now its more of an instinctual thing that happens and I doubt orcs are truly aware of what happened to them during a waagh.
If they understood and focused this ability I doubt anything would be unachievable. The idea of the orc race realizing that they could achieve anything through true belief alone would be terrifying.
No they don't. People overblow what the Waagh can actually do. The Orks can't make shit happen just because they believe in it.
Those pictures of Orks in actually good armor and gear, show you just how frightening Krorks must have been.
orks aims giant planet destroying laser at terra
the imperium: Here we go again..i bet they're going to raise the tithes for it
orks sends in diplomats speaking fluent gothic listing demands and terms of surrender.
the imperium : We're all gonna die!!
When the Waaagh is bloody enough to create proto-Krorks, you know it's a bad situation.
The Orks Did What Abaddon Could'nt Do....Kill An Entire First Founding Chapter.
...I mean, unless "almost" means "completely" where you're from, not really.
@@nimmha6708 and then a bunch of beast orks ganged up on the last one later on I think
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Maybe i'm mixing him up with the assassin from the same book... My fault then. You remember the name of that last standing Imperial Fist?
If you thought a Krork was scary wait till you hear the rest of the story
Orks that show up in heavy armor made for combat in any possible environment.
" Spayse Muhreenz. "
The more orks there are, the smarter they get. Like the skritt.
You know things are bad when Orks speak perfect Gothic
Yeah I'm not picking a fight with an Orkz that are that smart
These sound more like krorks than the funny chaotic Orks we all enjoy
and now Ghaz is nearing this level
The Ragnarork
Don’t need an interpreter,’ the lead ork said. ‘We tell you how to surrender, you surrender. Easy.’
Imperials: “WHAT THE FUCK DID THAT MUSHROOM SAY?!”
That period was as close as the Orks have gotten to returning to their days as the Krork.
De boiz been lookin fo a gud scrapin, we bring mor boiz and beasts
I love that the beast was just a single krork. There used to be trillions of beasts and they were nothing in the face of the old war
There is more than one. The books hint at that. Vulkan kills one but the orks didnt stop. Then they find out theirs another one as well as more hidden running their tribes. Just these two got together and made a shit ton of teleporting moons. Earth had one but there were hundreds. This Waagh was ranged across the sectors and not just earth.
The truly terrifying thing is that the Beast wasn't even a Krork, just a very powerful and highly evolved Ork warlord. So during the War in Heaven you would have trillions upon trillions of these insane killing machines with each one being much more powerful than the Beast. The biggest wow factor though is that it took an uncountable number of Krorks, peak Eldar, peak Old Ones, a war against the C'tan plus an Enslaver invasion to get the Necrons to chill out. So imagine how ridiculously overpowered peak Necrons would be.
Krorks>orks
Yeah... Beast wasnt even a full krork and still overpowered Vulkan... WIH WAS WILD.
Honestly I'm just waiting for 1 krork to re-evolve. That's gonna fuck some shit up
the Orcs must not have been that smart
And then the beast fell into a super-generator and then died... but ten more appeared before they all fell into super-generators and they almost split up again but like two trillion people were already dead alongside a primarch so the writer said "ah fuck it the book is done" and stopped writing about it... man, the War of The Beast was weird
@@MxHQAZTEK Just look up the war of the beast, you can read about it nearly anywhere
Picture this: in his journeys outside of the milkyway the silent king mostly encountered orks and tyranids. So imagine there is an entire galaxy of just a massive ork waaagh of cosmic proportion fighting an equally massive tyranid force. So they just grew stronger and stronger over time and the orks maybe evolved back into something like the krork or even more powerfully (witch would make sense because the krork only evolved into the ork due to there being nothing powerfull enough to require krork level strength and having smaller bodys was advantageous), so like in the octarius war they bost each other in strength and the winner will be strong enough to basically just win 40k. At the end of it the warboss of the waaagh probably is at least on the same level as the emperor, maybe even stronger and as orkz grow as they fight more battle he is probably as big as at least a small titan
I mean Gork and Mork are currently the strongest entities in the warp even dwarfing the chaos gods and the orks are already winning because they're in the best possible universe for them where there is nothing but war.
@@raventhc8847Yep the Krork were built to fight necrons at full power. They should be evenly matched.
@@raventhc8847 Necrons would definitely be able to kill the krork wouldn't even take a full awakening
Imperium: "We won't has give up to youse!"
Prime Orks: *Sipping tea.* "I say old chaps, you are a ninny to fight us."
"Thats no moon, thats a whaaag!"
Imperium: YOU CANT THREATEN TO EXTERMINATE HUMANITY THATS OUR JOB!
The scariest thing in the galaxy isnt nids, necrons or chaos....its an intelligent ork
Orkz : i speek
Same ork 2 second later : JOIN ME BROTHERS , FOR THE ORKLANDS FOR OUR LEADER THE PRIMAL ORC
The lost primarchs,
[redacted] and erased are my favourites.
Then Vulkan said hi
Smart orks? Oh great, now we're fucked
Orks are the best
song?
Did they encounter 3 orcs, that evolved back to krorks?
From what I'm reading in other comments, they werent close to evolving back to krorks, but they were indeed evolving again
Shit is serious when orks start speaking perfect gothic
Considering all Orks want to do is good krumpin', what kind of surrender terms would they demand?
The story in its totality was incredibly dumb and bad, but there were some interesting parts. Like Prime-Orks was stupid, they should have just been Krorks, but honestly I’m not sure Krorks existed before this story and this may have been where the concept of them came from. Mostly what the series did was properly establish background lore on the Inquisition, the Assassinorum, and the Deathwatch
im honestly wondering what the adeptus custodes would have done when they caught wind of terra's surrender
Orks are a snowball rolling down a hill, once they get going, they’re nearly impossible to stop.
This man plays Total War, dude said Pyrrhic Victory
"Pyrrhic victory" is a term that's been used in battle reports and war gaming for way longer than that game's been around.
One ambassador was Gork
The other, Mork
The third, Kleva Kunnin
Can we bring back this sort of proto-krorks again I feel they could fight back against the Tyranids in the current setting
Orks speaking perfect Gothic... The stuff of nightmares.
I like how the beast was a collection of some of the smartest and strongest warlords running it from behind the scenes if memory serves right
Everyone is gangsta until the Orks evolve back into Krorks.
Custode: did that Ork just..talk?
Emperor:..even I didn't see that coming.
Attack....moon. Leave it to the Orks...
I guess this kind of puts it into perspective just how many orks you need before they start evolving into krorks.
And it took the formation of the deathwatch and their unorthodox tactics, and the return of Vulcan to even try to push back against this overwhelming foe.
An Ork speaking perfect Gothic indeed really FUCKING SCARY
The Beast in the war in heaven he will be some common Soldier
Ork: i roll for diplomacy
The entire 40k verse: wait no that's illegal
Flesh Tearers: "haha chainsword goes brrrrrrrrrr"
My favourite theory is that the only thing keeping the emperor alive is the orks belief in him.
“We bring the end of humanity! And the end is soon at hand!!! … Why do I hear stomping?”
Lord sindeman....I mean Veritas
Was like yeah we have 10 thousand grey nights on titan. So the were kerp off the table.
And thanks to traumatic brain injury, Ghazghkull Thraka is well on his way to surpassing the Beast and becoming a full-on Krork.
Who'd have thought that the way to make an Ork smarter was to blow half his brains out?
Maybe they realized that if they exterminate their enemies there will be no one left to fight?
ORKZ A' ALWAYS DOIN DIPLOMANCY YA GIT
FIGHTIN IS DIPLOMANCY
kroks in the 40k present setting:
when literal ORKS determine that it is not viable to diplomate with you, and directly say that you're doomed, you know you screwed up.
Prime-Ork.
Primarch.
We gonna get a punch of prime-orks soon?
Remember when horus and Big E double teamed the entire ork species Soo hard, THEY asked for a peace treaty.
So I feel like on some level Korks came back said "Sup Humans, My name is Orkus and this is Kilor. Step your game up or we will come back and curb stomp you back into cave. Have a nice day and toodles."
Orks get smarter the more Orks there are. The fact not one, but three Orks got to diplomat level shows how huge this waaaagh was
Orks in space marine level armor is too fukn OP
I feel like ghaz and his waaagh coming to Angron after Yarrick’s death might lead to a new krork emerging.
the beast was literally on the path to resurrecting the Krorks
Me trying to find these armour designs is how i just found out what Krorks are
Well, people forget. Humanity has run into the Orks before. During the Dark Ages of Humanity. When human tech was so powerful. The Orks straight-up did not want to fight humans. They had a non-aggression pack with Orks.
But, that was millions of years before the event of 40K or even the Beast Invasion. And hard to say how long Orks live for. It is likely those Orks knew Humanity as being the meanest and strongest. Then, seeing the Beast nearly lay Humanity low. That it was telling.
"Shortly after the Horus herasy". It was 1500 years later
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