Ive got to say Mr. Gregg Judy I have watched a lot of Joe Salatins Videos but you are the first one who does a very thorough explanation showing in details how it's really done and I really appreciate you for that. I hope you and Joe could put your knowledge together and fight out your difference what the correct way is. You would do humanity great service and save the world and I don't just mean it in a literal way. Thank you so much for everything you do and I wish I get a chance to meet you one day.
Here from Gold Shaw Farm. THANK YOU for talking with Morgan. I have heard your name before. But did not know you have a channel. Just a note about "breaking your animal. And how important it is for what your animal understand s". Had someone give me a miniature horse one time. I was wanting him. But really did not have a proper space for him. And it was a spur of the minute situation, because the owner passed away. And had animals with no one to care for them. He was use to a hot fence. So just to see, I gave this a shot, and it worked! Horses do not see certain colors. So I ran YARN!!! YEP! YARN! around trees, to give him a spot, till I got his area ready. It worked! Lol. He would not go anywhere near it! I'm sure eventually he would have figured it out. But I just needed to buy some time. So make note of this! If an animal KNOWS HOT FENCE, you can trick them for a time, if you need to! Thanks again for sharing all your knowledge! It is priceless
When you lease or buy the next eroded farm ,make a vidio touring it and explaining the problems and plans for regenerating it ,then make video updates as it progresses, I believe your audience would very much appreciate following the whole process as it happens. (I certainly will)
So much great information. I love the presentation. I love the deatails down to the measuring inches. And, as all Americans since the country was born, want to know the "why"; Greg is splendid at giving the "why".
Excellent video!!! Thank you so much for the detailed descriptions, Mr. Judy. So glad you are doing a small scale model, as some of us are starting out with or will always have a small holding.
Thanks for the time payment arrangements for your grazing school. I wish you'd be needing a early crew for work-study campout. Maybe we could make a few more of those nice cedar tables you make? Thx for this winter video school BTW.
Greg if you do have barns that you use for cattle can you show those as well. I would love to see all the other infrastructure you work with. You are very informative. Thanks for your videos.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I live in northern Ontario and it's hard to picture raising livestock outdoors year round here. But I also don't want to build anything I don't need. Thanks for the reply and again thank you for your videos they are great.
@@mikewastian7303 in Northern Ontario you may need a building for livestock. Here in central Missouri, we get by fine without them. If it gets down below zero with powerful winds, we make darn sure our livestock have access to a eastern red cedar grove. We call cedar groves outdoor barns!
I enjoy your videos. In my state, if you do not have a "lawful" perimeter fence, you are financially responsible for any damages. An electric fence is not a :lawful" fence in my state. I saw a lawsuit where a cow escaped from a 4 strand barb wire fence and damaged a vehicle in an accident. The case was thrown out because the farmer had a lawful fence.
What if there is no existing fence? would you just install a high tensile fence or would you put a barbed wire perimeter fence with high tensile electric fence 10" inside it?
I've been slacking off logging my expenses. I have 4 jerseys. I bought them from a local dairy a few days old. For better or worse, I'm in about $1200 for the calfs, milk replacer, electric fence plus charger ( that was the biggest single item at $250) etc. I did buy some calf starter, and they are all a year old now. I think they are on the small side, but I figure it's not too bad, just to get started from scratch.
Thank you so much for all your wisdom. I am currently implementing this plan onto my property and will be using the Cyclops champ. Will I have enough joules for a property this size?
so what if you don't have electricity near your land, what chargers would you use to keep the hot wire fence hot to Geg's specification. I saw part two of this but looks like its plug-in source vs solar. I can't image that all least land has electricity to tap into for the hot wire fence?
I know nothing about fencing: do all 5 wires break when barbed wire fencing breaks? Or do you recommend stretching all 5 wires and crimping just for uniform tension on all 5 wires?
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher naturally-i guess the underlying questions are what type, and is it permanent? on leased land, this would mean putting money into infrastructure that I can't get back out, right?
Greg, I have a 4 board oak fence (horses in KY). No metal. Can I attach the hot wire directly to the existing posts without causing a problem for me as I rotate etc? I'd like to keep the cows off the fence but also primarily, its for internal fence power.
after taday ai needed ta hear a frien voice, tha made sents ta me,, ai sure do hate barb fence,ITS the mos hurtful fence ya git tangle in, thet high tensil wire wont tear ya up like thet barb wire,,thank ya fer the video
@@bhaski9343 If you can make sure the rest of the land will not be grazed or trampled upon during the resting period, and have little security concerns, then just use your electric net.
i'm just getting going, and I grazed sheep without a perimeter fence in electric netting all season. I do not recommend it, but I think it made sense for me the first year, and it kept them safe from coyotes and fenced. I'm going to start putting in high tensile perimeter to subdivide with poly wire as soon as possible. I'm confident the labor savings will make up for my time and materials quickly. I think my land owners will be more open to it now that they've see us work, tried out meat, and gotten to know us. At first they specifically said no permanent fencing because tenant dairymen have been building fence, and abandoning it to brush for years, and it's a mess. I had a mature ram hop out of my truck when I was loading up my rams to bring them home, and it got serious real quick. It was a pretty nerve racking experience catching him with no perimeter fence on someone else property next to my little town's main black top road. The land owner walked buy talking with a lumber customer, but didn't see the loose ram. Y'all should read Greg's books. Especially Comeback Farms. I don't think I've ever finished a book and started right back up at page one before.
I don't understand why it's rated in pounds per square inch. The breaking strength is about 1500 pounds. PSI is a measurement used for pressure in stuff like water pipes.
@@frodehauThat is the standard test method used to rate the strengths of materials. A machine pulls the sample apart. The machine measures the exact pounds of pull needed to destroy the sample. Then they figure out how many pounds of pull would be needed to pull apart a sample that is exactly one square inch in cross section, and use that for comparison to other samples.
If I get a pasture that is a 55 min drive away, I work during the day, and I won't get there until 5:30pm, do I need to be there every day? Every other would be great, and I am off on weekends.
Hey greg, are you up on the Springfield plateau in se Missouri? I'm a ways south of you in nw Arkansas and I was wondering if you have thin topsoil and limestone outcrops too. How does the timeless post hold up in those conditions? I know driving steel posts is a nightmare sometimes I don't see how a pvc post would hold up. Any tips? Probably gonna use black locust posts anyways. Thinking about digging down to bed rock(about 6 inches) and scribing the post to stone, securing it with cement and packing clay around the wooden posts. Also wondering if you have any advice particular to hills. Also any seeding/grazing information you have on outcompeting devil grass(Bermuda) would be appreciated.
some times I fixed the old fence enough to be legal under the law; then run a hot wire on a standoff (secure held) which actually keeps them in though by itself not legal as only1 bar. a legal fence maybe 5 bar but can hardly hold itself up :)
@@kathrynwhite8482 each state has different legal requirements; Missouri has 2 different, the lesser comes as a carrot with a stick (lesser punitive damage can be applied if the exterior fence is legal)
Michael Sallee yes, well I live in NZ, and here too each region has different perimeter fence regulations. Really, I was just trying to agree with you that a perimeter fence is to satisfy whatever regulations are imposed, while the electric is for keeping them in because I have yet to meet a cow that respects a non electric non barbed wire fence 😊.
@@kathrynwhite8482 aye, what actually maintains the animals is different from the "legal"; most times regulated by people who really have no comprehending of the animals. my internal fences are far different from my "legal" border fences
Is the hi tensile wire for the hot wire or for the perimeter fence? If There is no fencing what am I looking at for building? Is it still 30 feet between posts for my outside fence?
We use hi-tensile wire for all perimeter and permanent interior paddock divisions. Your perimeter posts should not exceed 25 feet spacings. Interior 1 wire paddock divisions posts can be spaced 40' on level ground.
I really need help... where can I buy grass seed I bulk that is not genetically modified but also is affordable- I have 10 acres in hill country Texas - 1:5 is hill- I cut cedars down and bermed contour lines ... the only hugely affected land with machinery was necessary for erosion control helps.... we are mostly rock/caliche - we have great soil in places on the hill but I need it anchor it down soon with grass.... can anyone help I need to get grass planted really soon ... my goal is for wildlife and maybe goats eventually to range it
I thought I was watching a video from “scratch” but this video assumes a perimeter fence already present in the equation. I need to know what type of perimeter fence you recommend.
I have some land my uncle is letting me use for free right now but I’ve been wanting to start cows. I have about 20 acres. I would appreciate if I could text you or email. Im looking around for cows but no luck in my price range. Thanks.
I also had leased land with a family member and had everything fall apart after two years and the owner basically kicked us off. So I have some experience of what not to do.
Sorry Greg, it is be cause you know this material inside and out that you probably cannot imagine someone would not grab on to what you say just like that.. but many of these things, for instance the special fence puller and those clips (those btw did not become visible to the viewer), you actually shoud show whilst they are in use, and accompany bits of video that show how these things are actually applied with some extra description and remarks - you doing like a voice-over on it so to say. And besides it having to be well in focus, a thing you do quite right, a thing like such clips need a close-up and showing how those small thingies are mounted should be shown in close-up as a whole. A layman who has never seen anything like that fence puller at all (and thus is gonna search the back of his mind only to come up with examples of things that look a bit like it but are completely different and non-related) is not gonna understand what you attach to what, what part pulls what, where those invisible clips would go, ..and were you saying like five wires at once all in one go??!
Ive got to say Mr. Gregg Judy I have watched a lot of Joe Salatins Videos but you are the first one who does a very thorough explanation showing in details how it's really done and I really appreciate you for that. I hope you and Joe could put your knowledge together and fight out your difference what the correct way is. You would do humanity great service and save the world and I don't just mean it in a literal way. Thank you so much for everything you do and I wish I get a chance to meet you one day.
I am that new person starting from scratch. Thank you so much!
elizebeth parker would mind sharing what state?
@@TotoWolffsBigHog we live in Missouri.
@@elizebethparker5412 I'm near West Plains. I'm in 1 year now. Its fun!
Here from Gold Shaw Farm. THANK YOU for talking with Morgan. I have heard your name before. But did not know you have a channel.
Just a note about "breaking your animal. And how important it is for what your animal understand s". Had someone give me a miniature horse one time. I was wanting him. But really did not have a proper space for him. And it was a spur of the minute situation, because the owner passed away. And had animals with no one to care for them. He was use to a hot fence. So just to see, I gave this a shot, and it worked! Horses do not see certain colors. So I ran YARN!!! YEP! YARN! around trees, to give him a spot, till I got his area ready. It worked! Lol. He would not go anywhere near it! I'm sure eventually he would have figured it out. But I just needed to buy some time. So make note of this! If an animal KNOWS HOT FENCE, you can trick them for a time, if you need to!
Thanks again for sharing all your knowledge! It is priceless
When you lease or buy the next eroded farm ,make a vidio touring it and explaining the problems and plans for regenerating it ,then make video updates as it progresses, I believe your audience would very much appreciate following the whole process as it happens. (I certainly will)
Thank you for teaching people how to farm and how to hang post and thank you for teaching people how to hang five bar thank you for teaching
I have been to Mr. Judy’s spring class and I can’t recommend it enough. Worth every penny!
I can’t wait for the sheep 🐑 version of this series! Thanks for all you do.
Yeah I wish I knew what he was about to say for the sheep perimeter fence.
Looking forward to the next installment. I'm taking over the family farm and have a lot of fence work to do. Be sure to cover what you do at gates.
So much great information. I love the presentation. I love the deatails down to the measuring inches. And, as all Americans since the country was born, want to know the "why"; Greg is splendid at giving the "why".
Great intro and thanks for the post and spacing. Even after the school this is great to refer back to as we actually set up.
Excellent video!!! Thank you so much for the detailed descriptions, Mr. Judy. So glad you are doing a small scale model, as some of us are starting out with or will always have a small holding.
Great info! Thanks for putting these out Greg. Looking forward to the next installment, and to hear about how you fence for sheep.
Goldshaw Farm sent me.
Toby-dog says hi !
Those Timeless posts are awesome! I just build about 3 miles of new fence on my farm with the 4.5 foot Timeless tee posts. Supper happy with them!
How much you spend on that?
Thanks for the fencing series. I need it!
This is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you for making this.
Thank you; very clear and informative.
Corner post, use a wood post and drill a quarter inch hole and run a sleeve through it for the wire.
Thanks Mr. Judy!
Thanks for the information always excellent!
Thanks for the time payment arrangements for your grazing school. I wish you'd be needing a early crew for work-study campout. Maybe we could make a few more of those nice cedar tables you make? Thx for this winter video school BTW.
Greg if you do have barns that you use for cattle can you show those as well. I would love to see all the other infrastructure you work with. You are very informative. Thanks for your videos.
We have no livestock barns on our farms. Cattle are much more healthier out on the pasture. Barns are great for transmitting diseases in your herd.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I live in northern Ontario and it's hard to picture raising livestock outdoors year round here. But I also don't want to build anything I don't need. Thanks for the reply and again thank you for your videos they are great.
@@mikewastian7303 in Northern Ontario you may need a building for livestock. Here in central Missouri, we get by fine without them. If it gets down below zero with powerful winds, we make darn sure our livestock have access to a eastern red cedar grove. We call cedar groves outdoor barns!
I enjoy your videos. In my state, if you do not have a "lawful" perimeter fence, you are financially responsible for any damages. An electric fence is not a :lawful" fence in my state.
I saw a lawsuit where a cow escaped from a 4 strand barb wire fence and damaged a vehicle in an accident. The case was thrown out because the farmer had a lawful fence.
What if there is no existing fence? would you just install a high tensile fence or would you put a barbed wire perimeter fence with high tensile electric fence 10" inside it?
I've been slacking off logging my expenses. I have 4 jerseys. I bought them from a local dairy a few days old. For better or worse, I'm in about $1200 for the calfs, milk replacer, electric fence plus charger ( that was the biggest single item at $250) etc. I did buy some calf starter, and they are all a year old now. I think they are on the small side, but I figure it's not too bad, just to get started from scratch.
You have food that you can feed your family with. That is a great investment for you.
Very good lesson! People learn a lot from your speech! Thank you
Thank you so much for all your wisdom. I am currently implementing this plan onto my property and will be using the Cyclops champ. Will I have enough joules for a property this size?
How big is your property and how many joules is the cyclops champ?
20 acres 5 joules output
I hope you'll do the exact same videos about sheeps, they are easier to dive in as you said it yourself when you are just starting.
Very good info and delivery.
Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge
Thank You for the information. God Bless and Peace Be With You ☮️🙏 ❣️
Great video, very informative but can you make another video on sheep and goats please. Much appreciated keep up the great work.
Gripples!! Best thing since sliced bread!
This is great! I would love to see a sheep version.
I’d love to see the hog version…
Great content!!
I like a come along with a clevits at each end for strechin the barbed wire back.
Awesome info. Thanks!
thank you so much Greg!!!
so what if you don't have electricity near your land, what chargers would you use to keep the hot wire fence hot to Geg's specification. I saw part two of this but looks like its plug-in source vs solar. I can't image that all least land has electricity to tap into for the hot wire fence?
SPEEDRITE makes a great solar charger that is reasonably priced and will knock your socks off!
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thank you guys, after watching a few more of your other videos I was able to find ones about those.
Outstanding!
Thank you
I know nothing about fencing: do all 5 wires break when barbed wire fencing breaks? Or do you recommend stretching all 5 wires and crimping just for uniform tension on all 5 wires?
Very informative, thanks!
This is great. But it assumes some existing perimeter fence. What do you do if there's no perimeter fence at all?
If you have no fence and you want to graze livestock, then you need to build some fence.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher naturally-i guess the underlying questions are what type, and is it permanent? on leased land, this would mean putting money into infrastructure that I can't get back out, right?
Greg, I have a 4 board oak fence (horses in KY). No metal. Can I attach the hot wire directly to the existing posts without causing a problem for me as I rotate etc? I'd like to keep the cows off the fence but also primarily, its for internal fence power.
Use a good insulator
Please, please tell us what your requirements for horses would be for this fencing. Thanks 🙏
after taday ai needed ta hear a frien voice, tha made sents ta me,, ai sure do hate barb fence,ITS the mos hurtful fence ya git tangle in, thet high tensil wire wont tear ya up like thet barb wire,,thank ya fer the video
Greg, Do you always need a perimeter fence or can you just use electric fence?
Was wondering the same, im leasing 30 acres with no fence. Putting up a whole new fence would be very costly for me
@@bhaski9343 If you can make sure the rest of the land will not be grazed or trampled upon during the resting period, and have little security concerns, then just use your electric net.
i'm just getting going, and I grazed sheep without a perimeter fence in electric netting all season. I do not recommend it, but I think it made sense for me the first year, and it kept them safe from coyotes and fenced. I'm going to start putting in high tensile perimeter to subdivide with poly wire as soon as possible. I'm confident the labor savings will make up for my time and materials quickly. I think my land owners will be more open to it now that they've see us work, tried out meat, and gotten to know us. At first they specifically said no permanent fencing because tenant dairymen have been building fence, and abandoning it to brush for years, and it's a mess. I had a mature ram hop out of my truck when I was loading up my rams to bring them home, and it got serious real quick. It was a pretty nerve racking experience catching him with no perimeter fence on someone else property next to my little town's main black top road. The land owner walked buy talking with a lumber customer, but didn't see the loose ram. Y'all should read Greg's books. Especially Comeback Farms. I don't think I've ever finished a book and started right back up at page one before.
@@swamp-yankee May I ask what kinda arrangement you've got going with the landlord?
@@swamp-yankee Thank you so much for the reply!
Why do you use 180,000 psi over 200,000 psi wire? Thanks for all the videos.
The 200K is more brittle.
Brent thank you
I don't understand why it's rated in pounds per square inch. The breaking strength is about 1500 pounds. PSI is a measurement used for pressure in stuff like water pipes.
@@frodehauThat is the standard test method used to rate the strengths of materials. A machine pulls the sample apart. The machine measures the exact pounds of pull needed to destroy the sample. Then they figure out how many pounds of pull would be needed to pull apart a sample that is exactly one square inch in cross section, and use that for comparison to other samples.
For sheep how far apart for post and how high is wire off ground?
Sorry for being off topic, why fescue and not smooth bromegrass, orchard grass, or rye?
Fescue stays green all winter and has a tremendous strong sod under it that holds up animals in wet conditions.
If I get a pasture that is a 55 min drive away, I work during the day, and I won't get there until 5:30pm, do I need to be there every day? Every other would be great, and I am off on weekends.
Every other day would work just fine
Hey greg, are you up on the Springfield plateau in se Missouri? I'm a ways south of you in nw Arkansas and I was wondering if you have thin topsoil and limestone outcrops too. How does the timeless post hold up in those conditions? I know driving steel posts is a nightmare sometimes I don't see how a pvc post would hold up. Any tips?
Probably gonna use black locust posts anyways. Thinking about digging down to bed rock(about 6 inches) and scribing the post to stone, securing it with cement and packing clay around the wooden posts. Also wondering if you have any advice particular to hills.
Also any seeding/grazing information you have on outcompeting devil grass(Bermuda) would be appreciated.
How far apart should timeless fence posts be for 5 wire perimeter fence?
20 feet
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher thank you for fast response sir
Can you please make one fpr sheep? just got my 1st lease!
some times I fixed the old fence enough to be legal under the law; then run a hot wire on a standoff (secure held) which actually keeps them in though by itself not legal as only1 bar. a legal fence maybe 5 bar but can hardly hold itself up :)
Michael Sallee I've done the same, except regulations here requires a 7 wire on perimeter.
@@kathrynwhite8482 each state has different legal requirements; Missouri has 2 different, the lesser comes as a carrot with a stick (lesser punitive damage can be applied if the exterior fence is legal)
Michael Sallee yes, well I live in NZ, and here too each region has different perimeter fence regulations. Really, I was just trying to agree with you that a perimeter fence is to satisfy whatever regulations are imposed, while the electric is for keeping them in because I have yet to meet a cow that respects a non electric non barbed wire fence 😊.
@@kathrynwhite8482 aye, what actually maintains the animals is different from the "legal"; most times regulated by people who really have no comprehending of the animals. my internal fences are far different from my "legal" border fences
Is the hi tensile wire for the hot wire or for the perimeter fence? If There is no fencing what am I looking at for building? Is it still 30 feet between posts for my outside fence?
We use hi-tensile wire for all perimeter and permanent interior paddock divisions. Your perimeter posts should not exceed 25 feet spacings. Interior 1 wire paddock divisions posts can be spaced 40' on level ground.
Hey Greg, I am only finding 12.5 Gauge wire online... is this different than 12? does it matter?
What type of electric fence Power source
Plug in charger. Either the Stafix or Cyclops brand is what we use.
How much days to make cow fatten em up for free range/ pasture cows
Thank you Greg )
Great video
I really need help... where can I buy grass seed I bulk that is not genetically modified but also is affordable-
I have 10 acres in hill country Texas - 1:5 is hill- I cut cedars down and bermed contour lines ... the only hugely affected land with machinery was necessary for erosion control helps.... we are mostly rock/caliche - we have great soil in places on the hill but I need it anchor it down soon with grass.... can anyone help
I need to get grass planted really soon ... my goal is for wildlife and maybe goats eventually to range it
Scratch.... That's me!!!! Broke with cattle and fence experience. #WaitingOnThatShip
Please do sheep!!!!!
I thought I was watching a video from “scratch” but this video assumes a perimeter fence already present in the equation. I need to know what type of perimeter fence you recommend.
Hi tensile 5 wire fence with Timeless posts spaced 20 feet apart.
Awesome
Hi sir your amazing omg wow makes sense
I have some land my uncle is letting me use for free right now but I’ve been wanting to start cows. I have about 20 acres. I would appreciate if I could text you or email. Im looking around for cows but no luck in my price range. Thanks.
I also had leased land with a family member and had everything fall apart after two years and the owner basically kicked us off. So I have some experience of what not to do.
I really wanna hear about part two. chargers and what not else I’m going to need before I start grazing in spring
HOT WIRE Baby!!!!! Zap, zap, ZAP ⚡️ move my dozen cows every afternoon, takes all of ten minutes with hot wire and insulator stakes.
Makin money?
drewmorg Yes. If you have the space it is profitable.
😁👍👌✌🖖😎
Sorry Greg, it is be cause you know this material inside and out that you probably cannot imagine someone would not grab on to what you say just like that.. but many of these things, for instance the special fence puller and those clips (those btw did not become visible to the viewer), you actually shoud show whilst they are in use, and accompany bits of video that show how these things are actually applied with some extra description and remarks - you doing like a voice-over on it so to say. And besides it having to be well in focus, a thing you do quite right, a thing like such clips need a close-up and showing how those small thingies are mounted should be shown in close-up as a whole. A layman who has never seen anything like that fence puller at all (and thus is gonna search the back of his mind only to come up with examples of things that look a bit like it but are completely different and non-related) is not gonna understand what you attach to what, what part pulls what, where those invisible clips would go, ..and were you saying like five wires at once all in one go??!
Ian the old guy lol