Hey Santino you make great points in the fight breakdowns and you’re a hell of a coach but Brandan was spot on in regards to the payperview sales. If you did a poll right now, 90 percent of the fans would want to see Jon Jones vs Tom Aspinall. Tom’s starching the whole division in minutes, Stipe hasn’t fought for 3 years and is coming off a KO loss to Francis.
If he fought Aspinall It wouldn’t make people illegally stream the fight any less and buy more ppvs lets be honest, the guys complaining about Aspinall are the same guys complaining about the stream on crackstreams keeps going out lol
@@SotoDoloif you actually think Stipe is a bigger draw than Tom in the year 2024, you are delusional, respectfully. Most casual mma fans don’t give a shit about this fight because all they remember is Stipe getting slept by Francis last time out.
Betting has been bad for me as of late and even still i deny canceling my membership yall have a great community its like a family great discord and the best and most real mma breakdowns appreciate both santino and brendan and kamala behind the scenes, yall are the goats💯💯
Bro fyi I was a premium member also to the patron and lost so much money as well. I soon realized that at best they’re 50/50 at doing picks and bets. I do admit the community they have is pretty awesome like the hound, Kai, no_name and so on. But I couldn’t justify paying 25$ a month for having internet friends and couldn’t trust the bets being placed. When Brandon bet on Josh fremd to win against petroski that was the last straw for me and canceled. Ever since then I have made way more money just watching TH-cam videos and making my own decisions and has worked out way better. Just wanted to give you some insight cause I felt the same way as you when I was a patron member. Good luck betting
I think the main draw of subbing is the regional and BKFC picks, were Brandan does a lot better. He often says on the pod the UFC is hard to make money with, even people doing this for a living who bet UFC heavy have poor ROIs but are kept afloat by deep bankrolls and side hussling with affiliate deals and pick selling. UFC is a game of slim margins, anybody with amazing stats there isn’t posting all their losses simple as that.
Stop following people for picks. Be a fan of the sport, watch the fights and every card look at the fights that stand out and the fighters you know the most. For example, this card I only narrowed possible bets to a Stipe by KO, Jhonata Diniz by KO, or Viviane by Dec. In the end I figured Viviane by dec has the most upside and based on her fights I think she could edge out a decision over Silva. Viviane can easily just make it dirty and wrestle Karina on the fence for a decision win.
@@Maliketh358 And just like that I made 4x my money. I only made 1 bet. Viviane by dec. My read was perfect. There's a reason I didn't go ahead with Diniz by KO, the takedown risk was there while the upside wasn't as big as Silva. Stipe KO is still a possible bet for me live. I've already made my money. Be a fan, not a parrot. Use your imagination a bit, the odds don't tell the whole story. If you even did barebones research Karina has a loss to Moroz. But sure, follow advice from random "picks" channels. They know more than you right?
Gall might not have crowd support because of the NY/NJ rivalry. I was at the Newark card & expected NYers Sterling & Frevola to get cheered & was surprised they were booed out of the building before/during/after beating Cejudo & Dober.
As much as the hardcores know Tom is the best HW and deserves it etc it’s pretty easy to advertise mma goat vs heavyweight goat . That and Jon probably did or would refuse Tom anyway even if UFC wanted it
Apparently calling Jon jones an obese alcoholic is against TH-cams bullying rules 😂 maybe this one will stay up. Stipe is 1000% live. Jon went from being a peak athlete to being fat.
Hmmm. Tom isn’t a global superstar but neither is Stipe. Not sure PPV sales are that different either way . I think it’s more about UFC gets to say they have the best p4p mma fighter of all time no debate , and him being a heavyweight now just adds to it bc p4p as heavyweight lol. And Jon winning this opens another big PPV if he fights again (against Alex or Tom I guess) . Also if they made the Tom fight now instead of Stipe and Tom were to lose then that wouldn’t be good either
I don't think Jon/Stipe was made because of ticket sells whatsoever. I think it's solely because they wanna build the resume of Jon being the greatest of all time
I cant disagree with this at all. I think sometimes people want to see “the best guys” fight, but that isnt always the “smart” thing for all the fighters.
Hey guys, I have a question. I bet Marcus McGee because of his wrestling and grappling upside. In fact Ive bet his submission prop as well. What's your take on his wrestling upside in this fight?
NO Santino, at the end of the day Jon Jones will be Remembered like Riddick Bowe was remember when he was the Undefeated Champ and Threw away his belt in the trash can (literately on national tv) to avoid fighting Lennox Lewis. Were that's literally all that hes' remembered for, even though he was the undeated, undisputed hw champion tht ko'd E.HolyField at the time for the belt when that happen.
Tom vs Jon is a much bigger fight. No one really cares about the fight this weekend. You even had to ask last week if it was this month. Jon’s legacy is more important than ppvs numbers
1 thing I will agree on is Jon jones is a total sociopath lol and should probably be studied for that disorder since he is a perfect example. I honestly think the reason he’s doing this has nothing to do with his legacy. Since he is already cemented as the goat. I believe he is doing this purely to ruin DC legacy or make it worse. We all know they hate each other and the one thing that DC was able to say over Jon was that he was a double champ and that he beat the best heavy weight of all time. Unfortunately after this weekend Jon jones will have done it and probably in better fashion making DC legacy not as great anymore. Then Jones is going to retire lol and that’s how a sociopath does it. Always gets the last laugh and like they say success is the best revenge.
I honestly don’t know if I can take anything you say seriously again. you were dead serious saying that stipe would sell more tickets against Jones than Tom bs jones, that is insane. You’re in the less than one percent that think that🤯
Get out of here. Without the threat of the takedown weidman striking is average. He’s can beat anyone at eachwhen he was 30. 😂 Romero & mousasi& jacare didn’t use the ground to ko him. Luke rag dolled him on the ground in top position.
Champions don't run from fights that's a coward. The bottom line is the SO CALLED GOAT is NOT SUPPOSE TO DUCK (meaning too scared to fight them) OTHER FIGHTERS PERIOD!!! Let alone any Champion. EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS TOO SCARED TO FIGHT TOM Just like he was Francis!!. Discrace as a champion. Tom is the Interium Champ and it has always been Interium Champ vs Champion. Now he's ducking having to justify NOT fighting him.. what a coward Id be embarrassed.
Easy with the living in the parents basement comments please.... I'm a single father of a 14 year old girl. I get no child support, work full time and pay rent.... always with the living in your parents basement comments...
It really sucks that you guys even have to reply to stupid comments because right or wrong, you guys are entertaining. I loved that one time I heard Brandon gush all over some up and coming girl fighter named Peyton, only to learn later who Peyton Talbot was.
Guys you gotta go easy on Tino, seeing as hes getting older and is also a red40 maxer. To his generation, stipe vs jones is the only fight to make, you just have to see it from his perspective
Brandon schooled you brother. Dana is interested in the myth of JBJ period. Even in your line of (bogus) thought it's penny wise and pound foolish! Once Tom stopped JBJ the UFC would be cashing for the foreseeable future (which dana also knows). The bottom lines are: 1. This is WITHOUT exception the biggest duck in the history of the sport period. 2. This Tom beats JBJ at ANY point on his career period! The reason JBJ would never take the fight is he KNOWS he could not outwrestle/grapple him. This why he'd face Frankie but not Tom. Basically JBJ is better nowhere and he knows it. GOAT? COAT ! John can hold Tom's. End of line....
@@santinodefranco82 Yea it's a nice fantasy. Tom's 'possible' issue is that no one has been able to give him rounds and striking D (relying on quickness). Tom is a different class than DC brother period. He has MUCH more power. JBJ took down down DC on the cage. He NEVER backs up Tom, never mind getting him against the cage. He's (was) a damn LHW. He does not go two full RD's with 'this' Tom ever imo. Referencing the former match up you mentioned watch RD.3 in the 1st fight. JBJ was toast (extending his hands weakly on the cage) being beaten up and DC went for the TD (good by big $$), Tom NEVER does that period. The fight would have ended with one clean strong upper cut by DC. Looking at Tom's referenced deficits JBJ does not have power like that so you're down to 'possible' cardio; Likewise, Tom smokes Gus and all those that JBJ fought closely too... End of line brother....
I didnt say I wanted to see Stipe. I actually said I didnt want to see this fight at all. I said Stipe vs Jon (goat vs goat) was why this was being presented to the masses and would sell more ppvs than Tom vs Jones.
@@santinodefranco82 Semantics. Jones is in both fights, why are more people tuning in to see him fight Stipe vs him fighting Aspinall, the most well-rounded HW talent in a very long time. The UFC even rolled back the gloves bc theyre scared this card could be a disaster. (big 'Santino' guy, so not challenging you out of dislike or anything, just disagree)
I dont think this is semantics here, but rather two arguments: one is that people donor dont want to see Jones vs Stipe, which I totally agree that it’s a shit fight (I know I dont want to see it). The other argument is “why is Jon fighting Stile and not Tom?” And that’s the more interesting one (to me). I think, for some reason or another (whether it be ppv buys or Jones legacy) the UFC doesnt want that fight. For me, Jones has nothing to prove. He is the 205 goat, and beat the reigning UFC HW champ. The die hards want to see JBJ and Tom, but it’s just not in the cards. (And I appreciate the conversation about this and dont think you’re being disrespectful at all!)
Arman could take down Islam for miliseconds and couldn't do anything it. What is impressive about that? Chris Wade reversed Islam and ground and pounded him for the whole first round then. That is more impressive.
Hey Santino you make great points in the fight breakdowns and you’re a hell of a coach but Brandan was spot on in regards to the payperview sales. If you did a poll right now, 90 percent of the fans would want to see Jon Jones vs Tom Aspinall. Tom’s starching the whole division in minutes, Stipe hasn’t fought for 3 years and is coming off a KO loss to Francis.
it seems clear
Who doesn’t think this👍🏻
If he fought Aspinall It wouldn’t make people illegally stream the fight any less and buy more ppvs lets be honest, the guys complaining about Aspinall are the same guys complaining about the stream on crackstreams keeps going out lol
no that's just 90% of UK fans
Why does Brandon always look and sound like he just left a Diddy Freak off? 🤔
Or is looking to attend one
You can tell Santino doesn't use social media much if he thinks Stipe outsells Tom right now haha.
I would bet Social media views doesn’t correlate to pay per views like your assuming
insanely out of touch with reality take by santino
@@SotoDoloif you actually think Stipe is a bigger draw than Tom in the year 2024, you are delusional, respectfully. Most casual mma fans don’t give a shit about this fight because all they remember is Stipe getting slept by Francis last time out.
Weidman going for his 2nd Eye-poke stoppage win in a row!
Point deduction bet +2000
Lost a ton of money on Kamuela Friday but love him
6:08 This. This right here.. Keep doing the good work fellas
Thanks for great listen again fellas
Betting has been bad for me as of late and even still i deny canceling my membership yall have a great community its like a family great discord and the best and most real mma breakdowns appreciate both santino and brendan and kamala behind the scenes, yall are the goats💯💯
Bro fyi I was a premium member also to the patron and lost so much money as well. I soon realized that at best they’re 50/50 at doing picks and bets. I do admit the community they have is pretty awesome like the hound, Kai, no_name and so on. But I couldn’t justify paying 25$ a month for having internet friends and couldn’t trust the bets being placed. When Brandon bet on Josh fremd to win against petroski that was the last straw for me and canceled. Ever since then I have made way more money just watching TH-cam videos and making my own decisions and has worked out way better. Just wanted to give you some insight cause I felt the same way as you when I was a patron member. Good luck betting
I think the main draw of subbing is the regional and BKFC picks, were Brandan does a lot better. He often says on the pod the UFC is hard to make money with, even people doing this for a living who bet UFC heavy have poor ROIs but are kept afloat by deep bankrolls and side hussling with affiliate deals and pick selling. UFC is a game of slim margins, anybody with amazing stats there isn’t posting all their losses simple as that.
Stop following people for picks. Be a fan of the sport, watch the fights and every card look at the fights that stand out and the fighters you know the most. For example, this card I only narrowed possible bets to a Stipe by KO, Jhonata Diniz by KO, or Viviane by Dec. In the end I figured Viviane by dec has the most upside and based on her fights I think she could edge out a decision over Silva. Viviane can easily just make it dirty and wrestle Karina on the fence for a decision win.
@@Stanky_Foot kindly funny how you name the worst possible bets to make
Jon jones sub
Jhonata diniz dec
Silva dec
@@Maliketh358 And just like that I made 4x my money. I only made 1 bet. Viviane by dec. My read was perfect.
There's a reason I didn't go ahead with Diniz by KO, the takedown risk was there while the upside wasn't as big as Silva. Stipe KO is still a possible bet for me live. I've already made my money. Be a fan, not a parrot. Use your imagination a bit, the odds don't tell the whole story.
If you even did barebones research Karina has a loss to Moroz. But sure, follow advice from random "picks" channels. They know more than you right?
I love you guys 💕
Is it Olivas’ shirt or did his head shrink??? 🤔
Steroids make your head bigger . Being soy makes it shrink . Just think about it
His head shrunk a little
1:08.35 - amazing freaduian slip of the Joey Diaz Stiopic 🤣
Good call on Marcus ur points were bang Brandan u know ur shit
I’m here for it! And I love it!
Gall might not have crowd support because of the NY/NJ rivalry. I was at the Newark card & expected NYers Sterling & Frevola to get cheered & was surprised they were booed out of the building before/during/after beating Cejudo & Dober.
thanks for the breakdown legends
Totally agree with Olivas on Aspinall
As much as the hardcores know Tom is the best HW and deserves it etc it’s pretty easy to advertise mma goat vs heavyweight goat . That and Jon probably did or would refuse Tom anyway even if UFC wanted it
I need a Jawaiian shirt 😂
Just wanna thank Brandan for that new macbook, bare knuckle ka-ching!
Apparently calling Jon jones an obese alcoholic is against TH-cams bullying rules 😂 maybe this one will stay up. Stipe is 1000% live. Jon went from being a peak athlete to being fat.
LOL I'll allow it, even if youtube won't!
@ I said f a t d r u n k before they didn’t like that lol
Thanks for the breakdown guys
Jon finishes him!
Tyburas never lost if he gets at least one takedown
Hmmm. Tom isn’t a global superstar but neither is Stipe. Not sure PPV sales are that different either way . I think it’s more about UFC gets to say they have the best p4p mma fighter of all time no debate , and him being a heavyweight now just adds to it bc p4p as heavyweight lol. And Jon winning this opens another big PPV if he fights again (against Alex or Tom I guess) . Also if they made the Tom fight now instead of Stipe and Tom were to lose then that wouldn’t be good either
Also Ramiz has been training with Belal Muhammad
Craig submitted Hill dont forget. It could happen
I think this probably wont happen, but is very possible!
Everyone should deserve a voice
I don't think Jon/Stipe was made because of ticket sells whatsoever. I think it's solely because they wanna build the resume of Jon being the greatest of all time
I cant disagree with this at all. I think sometimes people want to see “the best guys” fight, but that isnt always the “smart” thing for all the fighters.
6:24 we’re homeless cats. we do not maddur.
Hey guys, I have a question. I bet Marcus McGee because of his wrestling and grappling upside. In fact Ive bet his submission prop as well. What's your take on his wrestling upside in this fight?
I think he def has the wrestling upside here if he times his shot well, but Martinez has good TDD on the cage.
@@santinodefranco82 thanks. Maybe will ease up putting him in further parlays and play the o1.5 instead
Haha Santino, I hit 7 leg parlays all the time!
Well, then skip to the next chapter! Lol
@santinodefranco82 😆
16:00 a walking pharmacy 😂
NO Santino, at the end of the day Jon Jones will be Remembered like Riddick Bowe was remember when he was the Undefeated Champ and Threw away his belt in the trash can (literately on national tv) to avoid fighting Lennox Lewis. Were that's literally all that hes' remembered for, even though he was the undeated, undisputed hw champion tht ko'd E.HolyField at the time for the belt when that happen.
Time will tell.
I like your analogy
@@santinodefranco82just admit you were wrong.
Tom vs Jon is a much bigger fight. No one really cares about the fight this weekend. You even had to ask last week if it was this month. Jon’s legacy is more important than ppvs numbers
Jon wants Stipe, not the UFC. I think the ufc would like aspinal to beat jones and be the new face.
The boys☝️
1 thing I will agree on is Jon jones is a total sociopath lol and should probably be studied for that disorder since he is a perfect example. I honestly think the reason he’s doing this has nothing to do with his legacy. Since he is already cemented as the goat. I believe he is doing this purely to ruin DC legacy or make it worse. We all know they hate each other and the one thing that DC was able to say over Jon was that he was a double champ and that he beat the best heavy weight of all time. Unfortunately after this weekend Jon jones will have done it and probably in better fashion making DC legacy not as great anymore. Then Jones is going to retire lol and that’s how a sociopath does it. Always gets the last laugh and like they say success is the best revenge.
They need Jon to win given Francis exit and success, they need their heavyweight to look best / baddest on paper ffs it ain't rocket science
Love you guys don’t ever change a thing. Fuck the keyboard warriors 😂🙏🙌
they just mad they didn’t tail and can’t afford the finer things in life, like m4 macs or jeff molinas onlyfans subscriptions
I think Craig pulls this off round 2 or 3 am I crazy? 😮
Mental
Put a sprinkle
What is the sub prop at?
I honestly don’t know if I can take anything you say seriously again. you were dead serious saying that stipe would sell more tickets against Jones than Tom bs jones, that is insane. You’re in the less than one percent that think that🤯
Im not sad that everyone thinks Im crazy here! 😂
@ I don’t think you’re crazy. I totally respect your opinion, but the whole MMA community is calling for The Jones vs Aspinal fight.
@@shawnlewis4279Nobody knows Aspinall. The casuals are more interested in Stipe
@@shawnlewis4279Has Tom ever headlined a PPV?
Mickey trains at new york
Get out of here. Without the threat of the takedown weidman striking is average. He’s can beat anyone at eachwhen he was 30. 😂 Romero & mousasi& jacare didn’t use the ground to ko him. Luke rag dolled him on the ground in top position.
McGee is a dawg gonna sub jmar
Champions don't run from fights that's a coward. The bottom line is the SO CALLED GOAT is NOT SUPPOSE TO DUCK (meaning too scared to fight them) OTHER FIGHTERS PERIOD!!! Let alone any Champion. EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS TOO SCARED TO FIGHT TOM Just like he was Francis!!. Discrace as a champion. Tom is the Interium Champ and it has always been Interium Champ vs Champion. Now he's ducking having to justify NOT fighting him.. what a coward Id be embarrassed.
Easy with the living in the parents basement comments please.... I'm a single father of a 14 year old girl. I get no child support, work full time and pay rent.... always with the living in your parents basement comments...
Yeah, let’s hear those awful picks boys
Brandon is hot 🔥 on his picks. Gotta show the love ❤
Stipe craig parlay +4300
Pants on for the ppv . Good to fightready get a win on lfa after repeatedly getting smashed in the ufc
Go away, hater. Keyboard warrior in full effect.
Brandon is right about Stipe V jones and aspinall jones NO DOUBT. Aspinall would KO Jones.
🦆 vs 🐐
first person i heard someone call Aspinal a duck
first, gayest, engine engine number nine.
ima hardy girl too
Atmosphere is Slug & his dj did a shoe with them in the 90s before they blew up & eyedea died
Way before they were famous just some skaters from Minnesota
To say stipe sells more PPV than Aspinal in 2024 is maybe the dumbest take I've ever heard in this pod
That’s saying a lot
He’s a mma coach. Who are you? Ur not even qualified to give opinion
Santino is so right and Brandan is so off on this debate on the main event/ppv/how UFC works
It really sucks that you guys even have to reply to stupid comments because right or wrong, you guys are entertaining.
I loved that one time I heard Brandon gush all over some up and coming girl fighter named Peyton, only to learn later who Peyton Talbot was.
Haha!
Not 2 to
Dc he beat dc twice
He lost to struve
Guys you gotta go easy on Tino, seeing as hes getting older and is also a red40 maxer. To his generation, stipe vs jones is the only fight to make, you just have to see it from his perspective
I said I didnt want to see that fight. It bores me, but it will sell better than Tom vs JBJ
Brandon schooled you brother. Dana is interested in the myth of JBJ period. Even in your line of (bogus) thought it's penny wise and pound foolish! Once Tom stopped JBJ the UFC would be cashing for the foreseeable future (which dana also knows). The bottom lines are: 1. This is WITHOUT exception the biggest duck in the history of the sport period. 2. This Tom beats JBJ at ANY point on his career period! The reason JBJ would never take the fight is he KNOWS he could not outwrestle/grapple him. This why he'd face Frankie but not Tom. Basically JBJ is better nowhere and he knows it. GOAT? COAT ! John can hold Tom's. End of line....
I disagree. Prime Bones took down DC. He’d have taken down Tom. Old Jon, Tom beats.
@@santinodefranco82 Yea it's a nice fantasy. Tom's 'possible' issue is that no one has been able to give him rounds and striking D (relying on quickness). Tom is a different class than DC brother period. He has MUCH more power. JBJ took down down DC on the cage. He NEVER backs up Tom, never mind getting him against the cage. He's (was) a damn LHW. He does not go two full RD's with 'this' Tom ever imo. Referencing the former match up you mentioned watch RD.3 in the 1st fight. JBJ was toast (extending his hands weakly on the cage) being beaten up and DC went for the TD (good by big $$), Tom NEVER does that period. The fight would have ended with one clean strong upper cut by DC. Looking at Tom's referenced deficits JBJ does not have power like that so you're down to 'possible' cardio; Likewise, Tom smokes Gus and all those that JBJ fought closely too... End of line brother....
lol Santino has lost it, NO ONE
I didnt say I wanted to see Stipe. I actually said I didnt want to see this fight at all. I said Stipe vs Jon (goat vs goat) was why this was being presented to the masses and would sell more ppvs than Tom vs Jones.
@@santinodefranco82 Semantics. Jones is in both fights, why are more people tuning in to see him fight Stipe vs him fighting Aspinall, the most well-rounded HW talent in a very long time. The UFC even rolled back the gloves bc theyre scared this card could be a disaster.
(big 'Santino' guy, so not challenging you out of dislike or anything, just disagree)
I dont think this is semantics here, but rather two arguments: one is that people donor dont want to see Jones vs Stipe, which I totally agree that it’s a shit fight (I know I dont want to see it). The other argument is “why is Jon fighting Stile and not Tom?” And that’s the more interesting one (to me). I think, for some reason or another (whether it be ppv buys or Jones legacy) the UFC doesnt want that fight. For me, Jones has nothing to prove. He is the 205 goat, and beat the reigning UFC HW champ. The die hards want to see JBJ and Tom, but it’s just not in the cards. (And I appreciate the conversation about this and dont think you’re being disrespectful at all!)
Hick -hop is already a genre my geniuses
Arman could take down Islam for miliseconds and couldn't do anything it. What is impressive about that? Chris Wade reversed Islam and ground and pounded him for the whole first round then. That is more impressive.