Hi Too Old and Too Slow. My name is Cameron Greenwood Cramp AKA CGC. I'm an Aussie. I'm almost 28 years old. I was born on February 6 1997. I live in Melbourne in Australia AKA the land down under. I am the biggest fan of IMSA and the WEC in the land down under too. I've been into IMSA for 21 years now. And I love it. It's actually my favourite motorsport nowadays along with the World Endurance Championship AKA WEC and MotoGP & the 24 Hours Of Le Mans. Back in the day, I used to be into all motorsports, but not anymore. It's been like that for the last 12 years also. My favourite IMSA season is every single one of them. From the classic original IMSA from 1971 to 1998 and new IMSA from 2014 onwards. My favourite races in IMSA are the Daytona 24 Hours, the 12 Hours Of Sebring and of course the Watkins Glen 6 Hour held at The Glen. My favourite World Endurance Championship or WEC for short is every single one from 2012 to present day. Watkins Glen AKA The Glen in Upstate New York, where they make steamed hams, is the best race track in the United States of America. Also, Francios Cevert is the greatest French person of all time, apart from Rene Arnoux, Alain Prost, and Albert The 5th Musketeer AKA Albert De Parmagnan. And also, 1989 is the best Le Mans ever, along with 1965, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1970, 1981, 1994 and 1995. The Le Mans 24 Hours is my favourite race of the year and my favourite sporting event of the year too. Le Mans is my favourite race track in the world along with The Glen AKA Watkins Glen and Bathurst. Jim Clark and Ayrton Senna are two of my favourite drivers of all time. They are two of the greatest drivers who ever lived. Colin McRae and Walter Rohrl & Henri Toivonen are three of my favourite rally drivers of all time. They're tree of the greatest rally drivers who ever lived. Burt Munro along with Freddie Spencer are two of my favourite motorcycle riders of all time. They are two of the greatest motorcycle racers who ever lived. The Ford GT40 and the Ford Mustang are two of my favourite Ford's of all time. Two of the best Ford's ever made. Dale Earnhardt and Richard Petty are two of my favourite NASCAR drivers of all time and two of my favourite Amercians too. The Dodge Viper RT/10, the McLaren F1 and Mini Cooper are my favourite cars of all time. Search And Destroy by Iggy Pop And Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley are two of my favourite songs of all time. Along with Colorado Boy At Heart which is a song that wrote and recorded entirely by myself. It's also fun little song about Dan Colorado AKA Dan Dougherty who's from Colorado. Cool place. Albert The 5th Musketeer is my favourite cartoon of all time and The Young Ones is my favourite TV show of all time. Albert The 5th Musketeer AKA Albert De Parmagnan is my favourite Musketeer too. I'm the 6th Musketeer. Grand Prix Legends AKA GPL is my favourite game of all time. The Shawshank Redemption and The Incredibles are two of my favourite movies of all time. 1967, 1976, 1989, 1991 and 1997 are five of my favourite Formula 1 Seasons of all time. James Hunt, Nigel Mansell, Barry Sheene, Striling Moss, Mike Hawthorn and Ken Miles n David Purley are my favourite Brits of all time. Dan Gurney is my favourite big tall guy. And also, Dan Gurney is my favourite person with the name Dan too, apart from Dan Wheldon and Dan Colorado AKA Dan Dougherty too. Chris Amon and Lloyd Ruby are two of my favourite drivers who were great despite having a bad luck reputation. On Any Sunday and The World’s Fastest Indian are two of my favourite motorcycle films of all time along with Race For Glory and of course Silver Dream Racer. David Purley AKA David Charles Purley is my definition of an absolute hero. Kork Ballington and Jody Scheckter along with Jon Ekerold are three of my favourite guys from South Africa. My favourite female racers are Penelope Pitstop and Janet Guthrie & Dancia Patrick. Ford VS Ferrari, Rush, Senna, Grand Prix, Le Mans, Race For Glory: Audi VS Lancia, Days Of Thunder, Talladega Nights and The Love Bug & The Last American Hero are my favourite car movies of all time. The Driver as well. My favourite Australians are Jack Brabham, Peter Brock and Mark Skaife. Bruce McLaren, Burt Munro, Chris Amon, Denny Hulme are my favourite Kiwi's of all time. Also, Lorenzo Bandini and Valentino Rossi are my favourite Italian's of all time. Jacky Ickx is my favourite all around driver and my favourite person from Belgium. Aguri Suzuki is my favourite person and driver from Japan. Great country. Ronnie Peterson is my favourite Swedish person and the greatest person from Sweden too. Ayrton Senna, Emerson Fittipaldi and Nelson Piquet are three of my favourite Brazilian guys and three of the greatest Brazilian's who ever lived. Henri Toivonen is my favourite Finnish person and the greatest person from Finland. Pedro Rodriguez is my favourite Mexican of all time and the greatest Mexican ever. Jim Clark, Colin McRae and Jackie Stewart are three of my favourite drivers from Scotland and three of the best Scotsman ever. 1971, 1982, 1992, 1995 are four of my favourite Indianapolis 500's of all time. Jaques and Gilles Villeneuve are two of my favourite Canadians of all time and two of the best Canadians too. And Jeremy Dale. 1992, 1995, 1997 (CART) are three of the best IndyCar Seasons ever and three of my favourites. 1979 is my favourite Daytona 500 ever along with 1997 and 1998 & 1976. The 1979 Daytona 500 is also my favourite NASCAR race of all time apart from the 1992 Hooters 500. 1979, 1992, 1996, 1997 are four of my favourite Nascar seasons. 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980. 1984. 1994, 1995, 1999, 2003 are favourite Bathurst 1000's of all time. 1993 to 2007 and 2013 are my favourite V8 Supercars seasons ever. Two of the greatest male cartoon racers are Speed Racer and Tom Slick and two of my favourite male cartoon drivers too. 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1982, 1984, 1997, 2003, 2012 and 2014 are my favourite Daytona 24 Hours and are the best as well. 1966, 1967, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1983 and 1995, 1997, 1999 & 2012 are my favourite Sebring 12 Hours and are the best too. Niki Lauda and Jochen Rindt are two of my favourite Austrians and two of the best people from Austria. Juan Manuel Fangio and Carlos Reutemann are two of the best Argentina racers and two of my favourites from Argentina. Clay Regazzoni and Jo Siffert & Alain Menu are my three favourite Swiss people. Three of my favourite drivers from Switzerland. Steve Kinser is my favourite Sprint Car Driver of all time. Like with most people. 1982 to 1986 which were Group B, along with 1995, 1998, 2001 and 2003 are my favourite World Rally Championship's AKA WRC's. 1998, 1997, 1995, 1994 and 2018 are five of my favourites in the British Touring Car Championship. 1966, 1967, 1970, 1971 and 1989 are my favourite World Sportscar Championship's AKA WSC's. Every single 500cc season was and is my favourite Grand Prix Motorcycle Racing Season, especially the ones that had Freddie Spencer in. And finally.... Walter Rohrl is my favourite German and easily the best guy from Germany. Last but not least, Eddie Irvine is my favourite Irish and the best person from Ireland. :)
Wow, Cameron, thanks for sharing so much about your passion for motorsports and all your favorites! It’s amazing to see how much you love IMSA, WEC, and racing history. Great to hear from a fellow motorsport enthusiast-keep enjoying the ride!
I would have chosen B also, mostly due to the crank and the history. My only concern with all three is internal cylinder rust. My engine builder recommended fogging oil at shutdown to prevent rust within the combustion chamber while in short and long term storage, with the intake and exhaust ports capped.
Great point about the crank and history with Engine B - that’s a huge factor. I totally get the concern with internal cylinder rust, especially with these engines sitting for a while. Fogging oil is a solid recommendation; I've heard it can really help prevent rust buildup in the combustion chamber. Capping the intake and exhaust ports is also a smart move. Thanks for sharing the advice - I’ll definitely keep that in mind moving forward!
Great tip, thanks! Dropping the sump to check the oil situation is a solid idea, especially if it’s been sitting that long. Can’t be too careful with these things - appreciate the advice!
Totally agree - that crank in option B is hard to pass up! Appreciate the encouragement; I’ll need the luck on this one! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I would go option A, as you have that engine already. and have it inspected . Of course without a dyno and no compression reference and so it is a hard choice
Good point - sticking with what I already have could save some cost and hassle, especially with a thorough inspection. Without dyno results or compression references, it definitely makes the decision tricky! Appreciate your perspective - it’s a tough call!
@@toooldandtooslow It always is, as there are other elements to think off. Some you can't see unless you do a scan. For instance micro cracks in the block. Also, hpw many times was the engine rebuild ? Is it close to its dimensions limit ? If that is the case, the engine might be good, but can't hardly be rebuild later. I would still fo for one , open it and measure and inspect all parts. In one day you are done... At least that is what I do with my Kent and Pinto's. have a great day
Engine B does seem like the best balance of performance and reliability! And AlexaGra’s suggestion to check the sump is solid advice - always worth ensuring everything's in top shape. Thanks for the input!
How critically weak is the cast crank verses the forged crank? I had never heard of that being a problem component in the Kent engine. He's elected to go with the forged crank. I think given the choices I'd have gone with option "C". Going through the engine fresh assures you every part is right.
Great question! The cast crank in the Kent engine generally holds up well for many applications, but for consistent racing performance, the forged crank offers that added durability and resilience under high stress. Going with the forged crank was partly for peace of mind over the long term, especially with a high-performance setup. Option C definitely has its advantages, especially with everything freshly built and fully checked. There’s something to be said for that extra confidence! Thanks for sharing your thoughts - every option had its appeal!
Good point! A properly tested and treated cast crank can definitely hold up well, especially with expert handling. B still feels like the safest bet for me, but I appreciate the reminder that cast cranks have their strengths too. Thanks for the advice!
Great choice! The Scat crank is definitely a huge plus for longevity and reliability. It’s a solid investment for performance, and it gives some peace of mind knowing it’s built to last. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Option B is definitely tempting with that fully rebuilt status and the high-performance Scat crank! It's a solid choice for reliability and performance. Thanks for sharing your pick!
The gearbox was completely rebuilt by JP and actually makes up most of the car's value-definitely something to keep in mind when considering buying a roller!
An LS3 with a cam - now that would be a beast! 😆 Definitely a tempting thought, but maybe a bit overkill for this little Formula Ford. Appreciate the suggestion, though; who doesn't love a good LS3 build!
Totally agree - the crank plus the bold build make B the clear choice. I’ve heard similar stories about cast cranks failing and causing serious damage. Thanks for sharing your experience - it definitely strengthens the case for B!
Good point - B does sound like the full package, especially with that high-performance Scat crank already in! Ready to go without the extra rebuild cost is tempting. Thanks for the input - this decision's a tough one!
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Hi Too Old and Too Slow.
My name is Cameron Greenwood Cramp AKA CGC.
I'm an Aussie. I'm almost 28 years old. I was born on February 6 1997. I live in Melbourne in Australia AKA the land down under.
I am the biggest fan of IMSA and the WEC in the land down under too.
I've been into IMSA for 21 years now. And I love it.
It's actually my favourite motorsport nowadays along with the World Endurance Championship AKA WEC and MotoGP & the 24 Hours Of Le Mans.
Back in the day, I used to be into all motorsports, but not anymore.
It's been like that for the last 12 years also.
My favourite IMSA season is every single one of them.
From the classic original IMSA from 1971 to 1998 and new IMSA from 2014 onwards.
My favourite races in IMSA are the Daytona 24 Hours, the 12 Hours Of Sebring and of course the Watkins Glen 6 Hour held at The Glen.
My favourite World Endurance Championship or WEC for short is every single one from 2012 to present day.
Watkins Glen AKA The Glen in Upstate New York, where they make steamed hams, is the best race track in the United States of America.
Also, Francios Cevert is the greatest French person of all time, apart from Rene Arnoux, Alain Prost, and Albert The 5th Musketeer AKA Albert De Parmagnan.
And also, 1989 is the best Le Mans ever, along with 1965, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1970, 1981, 1994 and 1995.
The Le Mans 24 Hours is my favourite race of the year and my favourite sporting event of the year too.
Le Mans is my favourite race track in the world along with The Glen AKA Watkins Glen and
Bathurst.
Jim Clark and Ayrton Senna are two of my favourite drivers of all time.
They are two of the greatest drivers who ever lived. Colin McRae and Walter Rohrl & Henri Toivonen are three of my favourite rally drivers of all time.
They're tree of the greatest rally drivers who ever lived.
Burt Munro along with Freddie Spencer are two of my favourite motorcycle riders of all time. They are two of the greatest motorcycle racers who ever lived.
The Ford GT40 and the Ford Mustang are two of my favourite Ford's of all time.
Two of the best Ford's ever made. Dale Earnhardt and Richard Petty are two of my favourite NASCAR drivers of all time and two of my favourite Amercians too.
The Dodge Viper RT/10, the McLaren F1 and Mini Cooper are my favourite cars of all time.
Search And Destroy by Iggy Pop And Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley are two of my favourite songs of all time.
Along with Colorado Boy At Heart which is a song that wrote and recorded entirely by myself.
It's also fun little song about Dan Colorado AKA Dan Dougherty who's from Colorado. Cool place.
Albert The 5th Musketeer is my favourite cartoon of all time and The Young Ones is my favourite TV show of all time.
Albert The 5th Musketeer AKA Albert De Parmagnan is my favourite Musketeer too. I'm the 6th Musketeer.
Grand Prix Legends AKA GPL is my favourite game of all time.
The Shawshank Redemption and The Incredibles are two of my favourite movies of all time.
1967, 1976, 1989, 1991 and 1997 are five of my favourite Formula 1 Seasons of all time.
James Hunt, Nigel Mansell, Barry Sheene, Striling Moss, Mike Hawthorn and Ken Miles n David Purley are my favourite Brits of all time.
Dan Gurney is my favourite big tall guy. And also, Dan Gurney is my favourite person with the name Dan too, apart from Dan Wheldon and Dan Colorado AKA Dan Dougherty too.
Chris Amon and Lloyd Ruby are two of my favourite drivers who were great despite having a bad luck reputation.
On Any Sunday and The World’s Fastest Indian are two of my favourite motorcycle films of all time along with Race For Glory and of course Silver Dream Racer.
David Purley AKA David Charles Purley is my definition of an absolute hero.
Kork Ballington and Jody Scheckter along with Jon Ekerold are three of my favourite guys from South Africa.
My favourite female racers are Penelope Pitstop and Janet Guthrie & Dancia Patrick.
Ford VS Ferrari, Rush, Senna, Grand Prix, Le Mans, Race For Glory: Audi VS Lancia, Days Of Thunder, Talladega Nights and The Love Bug & The Last American Hero are my favourite car movies of
all time. The Driver as well.
My favourite Australians are Jack Brabham, Peter Brock and Mark Skaife.
Bruce McLaren, Burt Munro, Chris Amon, Denny Hulme are my favourite Kiwi's of all time.
Also, Lorenzo Bandini and Valentino Rossi are my favourite Italian's of all time.
Jacky Ickx is my favourite all around driver and my favourite person from Belgium.
Aguri Suzuki is my favourite person and driver from Japan. Great country.
Ronnie Peterson is my favourite Swedish person and the greatest person from Sweden too.
Ayrton Senna, Emerson Fittipaldi and Nelson Piquet are three of my favourite Brazilian guys and three of the greatest Brazilian's who ever lived.
Henri Toivonen is my favourite Finnish person and the greatest person from Finland.
Pedro Rodriguez is my favourite Mexican of all time and the greatest Mexican ever.
Jim Clark, Colin McRae and Jackie Stewart are three of my favourite drivers from Scotland and three of the best Scotsman ever.
1971, 1982, 1992, 1995 are four of my favourite Indianapolis 500's of all time.
Jaques and Gilles Villeneuve are two of my favourite Canadians of all time and two of the best Canadians too. And Jeremy Dale.
1992, 1995, 1997 (CART) are three of the best IndyCar Seasons ever and three of my favourites.
1979 is my favourite Daytona 500 ever along with 1997 and 1998 & 1976.
The 1979 Daytona 500 is also my favourite NASCAR race of all time apart from the 1992 Hooters 500.
1979, 1992, 1996, 1997 are four of my favourite Nascar seasons.
1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980. 1984. 1994, 1995, 1999, 2003 are favourite Bathurst 1000's of all time.
1993 to 2007 and 2013 are my favourite V8 Supercars seasons ever.
Two of the greatest male cartoon racers are Speed Racer and Tom Slick and two of my favourite male cartoon drivers too.
1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1982, 1984, 1997, 2003, 2012 and 2014 are my favourite Daytona 24 Hours and are the best as well.
1966, 1967, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1983 and 1995, 1997, 1999 & 2012 are my favourite Sebring 12 Hours and are the best too.
Niki Lauda and Jochen Rindt are two of my favourite Austrians and two of the best people from Austria.
Juan Manuel Fangio and Carlos Reutemann are two of the best Argentina racers and two of my favourites from Argentina.
Clay Regazzoni and Jo Siffert & Alain Menu are my three favourite Swiss people. Three of my favourite drivers from Switzerland.
Steve Kinser is my favourite Sprint Car Driver of all time. Like with most people.
1982 to 1986 which were Group B, along with 1995, 1998, 2001 and 2003 are my favourite World Rally Championship's AKA WRC's.
1998, 1997, 1995, 1994 and 2018 are five of my favourites in the
British Touring Car Championship.
1966, 1967, 1970, 1971 and 1989 are my favourite World Sportscar Championship's AKA WSC's.
Every single 500cc season was and is my favourite Grand Prix Motorcycle Racing Season, especially the ones that had Freddie Spencer in.
And finally.... Walter Rohrl is my favourite German and easily the best guy from Germany.
Last but not least, Eddie Irvine is my favourite Irish and the best person from Ireland.
:)
Wow, Cameron, thanks for sharing so much about your passion for motorsports and all your favorites! It’s amazing to see how much you love IMSA, WEC, and racing history. Great to hear from a fellow motorsport enthusiast-keep enjoying the ride!
@@toooldandtooslow Thanks, you're welcome. Let me know your favourites apart from David Purley. :)
I would have chosen B also, mostly due to the crank and the history. My only concern with all three is internal cylinder rust. My engine builder recommended fogging oil at shutdown to prevent rust within the combustion chamber while in short and long term storage, with the intake and exhaust ports capped.
Great point about the crank and history with Engine B - that’s a huge factor. I totally get the concern with internal cylinder rust, especially with these engines sitting for a while. Fogging oil is a solid recommendation; I've heard it can really help prevent rust buildup in the combustion chamber. Capping the intake and exhaust ports is also a smart move. Thanks for sharing the advice - I’ll definitely keep that in mind moving forward!
Good choice on B, correct decision. I'd at least drop the sump off to make sure everything is still caked in oil if its sat for 2 years.
Great tip, thanks! Dropping the sump to check the oil situation is a solid idea, especially if it’s been sitting that long. Can’t be too careful with these things - appreciate the advice!
I’d go with option “B”, no question, if for no other reason than the crank. Good luck!
Totally agree - that crank in option B is hard to pass up! Appreciate the encouragement; I’ll need the luck on this one! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Good choice engine B hope it all goes well
Thanks! Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly with Engine B. Appreciate the support!
I would go option A, as you have that engine already. and have it inspected . Of course without a dyno and no compression reference and so it is a hard choice
Good point - sticking with what I already have could save some cost and hassle, especially with a thorough inspection. Without dyno results or compression references, it definitely makes the decision tricky! Appreciate your perspective - it’s a tough call!
@@toooldandtooslow It always is, as there are other elements to think off. Some you can't see unless you do a scan. For instance micro cracks in the block. Also, hpw many times was the engine rebuild ? Is it close to its dimensions limit ? If that is the case, the engine might be good, but can't hardly be rebuild later. I would still fo for one , open it and measure and inspect all parts. In one day you are done... At least that is what I do with my Kent and Pinto's. have a great day
My choice would have been engine B. AlexaGra suggestion is good advice.
Engine B does seem like the best balance of performance and reliability! And AlexaGra’s suggestion to check the sump is solid advice - always worth ensuring everything's in top shape. Thanks for the input!
How critically weak is the cast crank verses the forged crank? I had never heard of that being a problem component in the Kent engine. He's elected to go with the forged crank. I think given the choices I'd have gone with option "C". Going through the engine fresh assures you every part is right.
Great question! The cast crank in the Kent engine generally holds up well for many applications, but for consistent racing performance, the forged crank offers that added durability and resilience under high stress. Going with the forged crank was partly for peace of mind over the long term, especially with a high-performance setup.
Option C definitely has its advantages, especially with everything freshly built and fully checked. There’s something to be said for that extra confidence! Thanks for sharing your thoughts - every option had its appeal!
Your choice of "B" would have been my call as well.
Engine B, i have had 3 Bold engines zero problems
That's great to hear! If Engine B has worked so well for you with zero issues, that’s some solid reassurance. Thanks for sharing your experience!
B. Hope it goes well.
Thanks! I'm hoping for the best with Engine B. The Scat crank should make a big difference. Appreciate your support!
B. But keep in mind, a cast crank that is properly crack tested and shot peened by someone who knows what they are doing is still good.
Good point! A properly tested and treated cast crank can definitely hold up well, especially with expert handling. B still feels like the safest bet for me, but I appreciate the reminder that cast cranks have their strengths too. Thanks for the advice!
Engine B would be my choice of the three. The Scat crank is a big value as we all know they last forever basically.
Great choice! The Scat crank is definitely a huge plus for longevity and reliability. It’s a solid investment for performance, and it gives some peace of mind knowing it’s built to last. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Engine B was the clear winner here.
Absolutely, Engine B definitely seems like the best choice! Thanks for the input - glad we’re all on the same page!
B because of the crank.
Good call - that crank really makes B stand out! Appreciate the input; it’s definitely a strong contender!
Option B.
Option B is definitely tempting with that fully rebuilt status and the high-performance Scat crank! It's a solid choice for reliability and performance. Thanks for sharing your pick!
Interesting when considering buying a roller.
The gearbox was completely rebuilt by JP and actually makes up most of the car's value-definitely something to keep in mind when considering buying a roller!
@ I remembered and my mate Marc pointed out the great value the package was with that gearbox included.
LS3 with a cam
An LS3 with a cam - now that would be a beast! 😆 Definitely a tempting thought, but maybe a bit overkill for this little Formula Ford. Appreciate the suggestion, though; who doesn't love a good LS3 build!
Engine B for sure
Agreed! Engine B seems to be the way to go. Appreciate your input!
B
Looks like B is the popular choice! Appreciate the vote of confidence - it’s definitely the safe bet for performance and reliability!
B all day long. Crank plus bold.
I have had a cast crank go and it destroys the engine.
Totally agree - the crank plus the bold build make B the clear choice. I’ve heard similar stories about cast cranks failing and causing serious damage. Thanks for sharing your experience - it definitely strengthens the case for B!
B……….. I’m no expert though
Hey, no worries - I’m definitely no expert either! But B does seem like a solid choice. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
b
Another vote for B! Seems like the crank is winning everyone over - thanks for the input!
None of the 3 options. Go to the same engine builder as I use :)
Ha! If only I had your budget, Andy! I'd need to find a few more pennies (or maybe a hidden treasure) to afford your engine builder!
B, ready to go, from a good builder with a couple of grand crank already in it.
Reckon you did the right thing.
Good point - B does sound like the full package, especially with that high-performance Scat crank already in! Ready to go without the extra rebuild cost is tempting. Thanks for the input - this decision's a tough one!
B
Looks like B is the favorite! Thanks for the input - it's definitely a strong choice!