The old beast can't handle it because of the more advanced graphics features of DX12 Ultimate... Is it mesh shaders, or something else? Actually, it can't be mesh shaders because it would be worse, but it's definitely due to some features of DX12 Ultimate...
besides RT and tensor cores, the main architectural change from pascal to turing were the concurrent INT32 and FP32 cores. pascal can't execute at the same time INT32 and FP32 instructions, turing and above can. that explains why some modern games run much better on a 1660 than a 1060
because thats the thing with these ue5 games - they look like absolute garbage at low settings to the point that 6 year old games that run way better on ultra that new ones on low also look way better
@@ИзяШмуль Exodus was semi-open world and the maps were pretty large. It's pretty obvious that STALKER 2 is unoptimized considering the reports from people with higher end cards (30 series even) that are having issues with it.
If politicians all over the world worked half as much and half as diligently as this guy, we would have world peace and reverse global warming in a year.
The graphic and story is amazing .I admire them for being able to create such an extraordinary game under the conditions of war. And with the updates coming in the next few weeks, many of the bugs will likely be fixed.
11:46 with these settings, the results are not terrible TBH :) So 1080ti is not dead even in this game. Also dont forget u can set textures to Epic for no perf loss... and Im sure u can enable some small effects to make the game look better without a FPS hit. So with some fiddling around, 1080ti can actually make this game work quite nicely, after all. And also, u can force it to run in DX11 mode, and THAT would be really interesting to see on this GPU which thrives in DX11
Yep, can confirm it does look like this and run like this on such old hardware ^^. Not super enjoyable but it's just barelly acceptable still. The flickering and innability to see things clearly at longer distances is quite annoying through.
I am running this on medium 1440p with a Gtx 1080, with FSR Quality and FG. Still getting decent Fps. My Gpu tech is 8 years old. I feel like it was a solid investment.
How the mighty have fallen 😢you had a great run and will be forever in our hearts 🥰 Nvidia Pascal GTX1080Ti 😇💪✊. The one mistake from Nvidia that gave gamers the world and at a great price ….. which’ll never be repeated by Ngreedia 🤬!
Basically Stalker 2 released how Silent Hill 2 Remake released, underperforming even on modern hardware. This is a foreshadowing of what's to come in modern gaming. Too many studios rushing games, neglecting optimization, and leaning on upscaling technology to give "playable" performance at launch until they release a patch that allows hardware to run at it's full potential. I feel bad for anyone playing these modern titles on hardware older than last gen as it seems studios are causing hardware obsolescence by being lazy.
The greatest card ever made. btw. the GTX 1080ti could play Star Wars Battlefront 2 in native 4k on max settings with 70 to 120 fps depending on the area with phenomenal frame times. so roughly 85 fps on average. No upscaling and now frame generation needed. Just raw GPU and game engine power. In Stalker the 1080ti gets avg 45 fps to 50fps in native 1080p and LOW settings... let that sink in. (the 4090 gets avg 195fps in Battlefront 2 when playing in native 4k and max settings and being in busy groundwar multiplayer areas... in Stalker this card often slips under 60fps in native 4k and max settings in single player... but Stalker does not 3x better then Battlefront 2)
@THAT4043RR3OR open world games dont render the full distance in max. resolution and detail. Red Dead Redemption 2 rund with 75 to 100 fps (avg 90) in max. 4k on the 4090 and it looks phenomenal with super fast and stable frametimes. And the single player stalker also has less going on than a fully packed Battlefront 2 multiplayer server where massive wars are going on. so having avg 62 fps in stalker vs. avera 90 fps in red dead doesnt seem justifyed by the graphics alone. also red dead was also considered to not be one of the best optimized games. im sure future updates can fix stalker, its just sad to release it like that.
@@Satori-Automotive Ugh if only all these people saying "You can't compare it to an open world game!" understand that just because a game is open world doesn't mean every single thing in the game world is rendered and calculated/computed at the same time. Open world games will still be culled to a certain area and distance not much larger than non open world games. Yes you can absolutely compare Metro Exodus, STALKER 2, Battlefront 2, Battlefield, etc.
@@skinscalp222 y its the same with open world racing games. I mean Forza Horizon is enormous. But still runs extremely well. In Assetto Corsa its the same. The Nordschleife runs as good as small tracks. The is just a little performance bump but its not noteworthy. I also activated enhanced chunk optimization which makes the process of culling even better and really helps with performance. Its not even noticeable. So if a game studio doesnt use that, its simply bad optimization. the good thing is, games dont look good if everything is rendered from far away. Open world games look the best, when we have fog to cover the distance. So the game appears bigger. Thats what looked so horrible in the GTA definitive edition. They removed the fog and it looked horrible. Now they patched it back in and the game suddenly looks good again. So optimizing this process is really helpfull for performance. (btw GTA5 runs on every potato PC and its a giant world aswell)
It's bit weird since 1080Ti is faster than 3060 and also u got far better CPU. I guess that's the power of DLSS as I've also tried FSR Q for fun and I got less fps. With my 3060 11G and R7 5700X I get like 80-100fps in this demanding town and mostly over 100 in other areas using DLSS Q + FG all Medium w/ Epic textures @ 1080p. It looks quite decent and very playable at the cost of some mouse lag. W/o FG its around 45fps in that town and elsewhere 60 on avg.
The graphic card is not the problem here....what surprises me is that there is no graphical solution for low presets where it can at least compete with games from previous generations in ultra setting.
Hey, could you make testing with RTX 2060 in Stalker 2 6GB Version? Its could be intresting. And funny thing, i have RTX 4070 with Ryzen 7 5700X, and in first camp FPS drop to 40 with DLSS Quality without Frame Generation. This game needs more and more patches to fix it.
yeahhhhh my r5 3600 chugged with a 3060 ti. that bar cutscene dropped my fps to 13 and bricked it to 13 even when i got out of the bar. had to restart by quitting the game while in the bar and then reloading it and starting in the bar fixed it, but damn was that painful.
All the flickering is a result of Lumen and Nanite actually, it's trying to render triangles and simulate lighting but dunno what to do with your low end hardware.
Remarkable that the little GPU that could just keeps soldiering on and being relevant. S2:H.o.C is busy downloading for me, I'm looking forward to wasting my weekend killing mutants! RX6600 and 4070ti next, please!
Theres a mod out now that helps with Performance i Tried it works really well if anyone still on 1080 or lower download that mod it will help out a lot
Damn. Someone who allegedly had it early did a Q&A and when asked about percentage of buildings that could be entered, he replied "most can be entered". Guess he lied?
I believe it would be worth it to go up to atleast medium settings on this graphics card, or customize them a little bit. It works well at 1080p still.
100%... theres a LOT of room, textures to epic and some basic ambient occlusion and u have much better image at same FPS. Actually, I believe u can make the game look good and run nicely at 1080p with FG and FSR AA... And I wonder, what would forcing DX11 do to a performance... it might be VERY surprising...
7:37 BUG TSR upscaling QUALITY-BALANCED should automaticaly change Resolution Scale to 66% (TSR wasn't applied in this case at 100% RS 😐) 10:22 FSR automaticaly changes Resolution Scale to 66%.😃 BTW TSR upscaling is the only one who hasn't GHOSTING in unreal 5.4 demo - FSR311, XESS13 have like water behind car, FG - multiple car bumpers visible 🤣
Yes, the stalker 2 may not be very optimized at first, but the studio has gone through a lot of challenges: Due to the russian invasion, the studio was forced to move to another country, and some of the employees bravely decided to defend Ukraine. Many people emphasize the poor optimization of Stalker 2, but nowadays most studios, even when they are in comfortable conditions, are unable to optimize their games before release, and fix it with months-long patches
No, it will run only on minimally required ASOS C0CK Xtreme 10GHz edition RTX 6090 ti Super 69GB HBM3 vram, AMD Ryzen Threadripper 14990WX (256 cores, 512 threads @ 7.35 GHz, 2GB of L3 on-core cache), 512GB DDR8 96000MHz cl128 and Assrock X1099 Hot mommy edition, it will requires 6kWatt PSU and also 32TB of free space and 20TB/sec bandwith speed from ur drive.
hey kryzzp can you do me an favor nno im currently trying make an pc for gaming i have a big problem wich gpu will i get can tell me what gpu is better rtx 4080 super or amd redeon rx 7900xtx wich one is best please reply
i was not expecting such awful performance and visuals😅 it’s probably because of ue5 not being optimized for older cards (200w tdp when the card is capable of up to 280)
As Slavic men I love how Kryyzp speak word VODKA, so much passion in it
The old beast can't handle it because of the more advanced graphics features of DX12 Ultimate... Is it mesh shaders, or something else? Actually, it can't be mesh shaders because it would be worse, but it's definitely due to some features of DX12 Ultimate...
It's just not a good (comparatively speaking) dx12 card in general, its dx11 performance is much better than its dx12 performance on most games.
besides RT and tensor cores, the main architectural change from pascal to turing were the concurrent INT32 and FP32 cores.
pascal can't execute at the same time INT32 and FP32 instructions, turing and above can.
that explains why some modern games run much better on a 1660 than a 1060
This game even haven't rt.
I played it on my 4070super in full hd and sometimes I had 29 fps, lmao
lomen and real time reflactions and light unreal engine 5 stuff
couldnt you just run this game in DX11 and be fine?
Stalker: LOW 1080P 55FPS
Metro Exodus Ultra 1080P 80-100FPS
The metro looks much better graphically to me.
because thats the thing with these ue5 games - they look like absolute garbage at low settings to the point that 6 year old games that run way better on ultra that new ones on low also look way better
Comprasion open world and linear corridor shooter💀
@@ИзяШмуль Exodus was semi-open world and the maps were pretty large. It's pretty obvious that STALKER 2 is unoptimized considering the reports from people with higher end cards (30 series even) that are having issues with it.
@@Synthr1x 4080 here ... runs like crap. They need to do a lot of fixing.
tbh, the visual quality on the 1080ti seems to be lower than even clear sky or SoC, it's weird
Unreal engie and stuttering is the iconic duo
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Thank you for still making 1080ti videos !
1:33 TAA as a base for every effect, this is what you get in 2024
nah but this gpu never dies ! even in recent games, great video btw !
its alerady dead with alan wake 2
@@laxosfiredzghost3020 yep but its so old that its still impressive !
@@editsbyr1 is super powerful gpu That's why Nvidia killed it
Wanna see RX cards tested! Good benchmarks as always😄
7900XTX yes!
1080ti's finally beginning to show it's age 😪
It's just shit optimization
no, instead it's the video game industry showing its laziness to optimiaze games
@@Jenkie6969 oh yeah most definitely, I just got upset for a second
@@ileapsy20711000% there's a bigger push towards users purchasing more powerful hardware than developers actually optimizing their games
Dev skill issue
If politicians all over the world worked half as much and half as diligently as this guy, we would have world peace and reverse global warming in a year.
This is not true. Right wing politicians don't want world peace and don't believe in climate change. Only left wing politicians will fix our problems.
у них совсем другие задачи. Делать себе хорошо, а нам плохо. Но об этом игру не выпустят.
Global warming doesnt exist
Thx very much , I just wanted to ask for this gpu and here it is! So cool fr
The graphic and story is amazing .I admire them for being able to create such an extraordinary game under the conditions of war. And with the updates coming in the next few weeks, many of the bugs will likely be fixed.
Sure, but they moved to Prague so it's not like they were in Ukraine.
That's how I played most games when I still had my 1080ti. Darktide, Helldivers 2 etc. I was happy with 50fps+.
The old King's time is just about over. 👑
thank you very much for this video, now I know what my gtx 1080 ti does in this game.
11:46 with these settings, the results are not terrible TBH :) So 1080ti is not dead even in this game. Also dont forget u can set textures to Epic for no perf loss... and Im sure u can enable some small effects to make the game look better without a FPS hit. So with some fiddling around, 1080ti can actually make this game work quite nicely, after all. And also, u can force it to run in DX11 mode, and THAT would be really interesting to see on this GPU which thrives in DX11
Yep, can confirm it does look like this and run like this on such old hardware ^^. Not super enjoyable but it's just barelly acceptable still. The flickering and innability to see things clearly at longer distances is quite annoying through.
I am running this on medium 1440p with a Gtx 1080, with FSR Quality and FG. Still getting decent Fps. My Gpu tech is 8 years old. I feel like it was a solid investment.
absolutely incredible at 1080p low. Just wow. This card wont die!
It's 1080p low...
Even ryzen 7 8700g with apu did much better at 1080p high 😂
@@GameRTmaster no it wont
@@GameRTmaster That's so bs i don't even need to prove it
@@HybOj I saw the video yesterday!!
@@GameRTmaster 8700g is almost the same performance as a GTX 1060.
Hey man great benchmarks as always!
It would be very interesting to see how the rtx 4080 handels in this game!!
handles*
@@reniervandermerwe 👆🤓
3060 TI next?
How the mighty have fallen 😢you had a great run and will be forever in our hearts 🥰 Nvidia Pascal GTX1080Ti 😇💪✊. The one mistake from Nvidia that gave gamers the world and at a great price ….. which’ll never be repeated by Ngreedia 🤬!
but its 80 fps
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 yes, 80fps with fake frames, upscaling and input lag lmfao modern gaming is a joke
@@gmoder10 init what an idiot!
6:15 Ahh,Some things don't change in the Zone 😂
Basically Stalker 2 released how Silent Hill 2 Remake released, underperforming even on modern hardware. This is a foreshadowing of what's to come in modern gaming. Too many studios rushing games, neglecting optimization, and leaning on upscaling technology to give "playable" performance at launch until they release a patch that allows hardware to run at it's full potential. I feel bad for anyone playing these modern titles on hardware older than last gen as it seems studios are causing hardware obsolescence by being lazy.
again v nice video as always, i wanted to ask for the benchmark of rx 6700xt and rtx 4070 super
is there any chance for any one of these?
With that amount of VRAM you should try better textures. It helps a lot with visuals.
YES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
Games are so unoptimised now. Upscaling technology should be banned from use by developers.
thanks for the videooo i was waiting for this
The greatest card ever made.
btw. the GTX 1080ti could play Star Wars Battlefront 2 in native 4k on max settings with 70 to 120 fps depending on the area with phenomenal frame times.
so roughly 85 fps on average. No upscaling and now frame generation needed. Just raw GPU and game engine power.
In Stalker the 1080ti gets avg 45 fps to 50fps in native 1080p and LOW settings... let that sink in.
(the 4090 gets avg 195fps in Battlefront 2 when playing in native 4k and max settings and being in busy groundwar multiplayer areas... in Stalker this card often slips under 60fps in native 4k and max settings in single player... but Stalker does not 3x better then Battlefront 2)
@THAT4043RR3OR open world games dont render the full distance in max. resolution and detail. Red Dead Redemption 2 rund with 75 to 100 fps (avg 90) in max. 4k on the 4090 and it looks phenomenal with super fast and stable frametimes. And the single player stalker also has less going on than a fully packed Battlefront 2 multiplayer server where massive wars are going on.
so having avg 62 fps in stalker vs. avera 90 fps in red dead doesnt seem justifyed by the graphics alone.
also red dead was also considered to not be one of the best optimized games.
im sure future updates can fix stalker, its just sad to release it like that.
Grand daddy card of its time haha ....... @SaTori yeah the game need some optimization
@@Satori-Automotive Ugh if only all these people saying "You can't compare it to an open world game!" understand that just because a game is open world doesn't mean every single thing in the game world is rendered and calculated/computed at the same time. Open world games will still be culled to a certain area and distance not much larger than non open world games. Yes you can absolutely compare Metro Exodus, STALKER 2, Battlefront 2, Battlefield, etc.
@@skinscalp222 y its the same with open world racing games. I mean Forza Horizon is enormous. But still runs extremely well. In Assetto Corsa its the same. The Nordschleife runs as good as small tracks. The is just a little performance bump but its not noteworthy. I also activated enhanced chunk optimization which makes the process of culling even better and really helps with performance. Its not even noticeable.
So if a game studio doesnt use that, its simply bad optimization.
the good thing is, games dont look good if everything is rendered from far away. Open world games look the best, when we have fog to cover the distance. So the game appears bigger.
Thats what looked so horrible in the GTA definitive edition. They removed the fog and it looked horrible.
Now they patched it back in and the game suddenly looks good again.
So optimizing this process is really helpfull for performance.
(btw GTA5 runs on every potato PC and its a giant world aswell)
Learn to compare games
The ram usage on this😮 its very high. Dang.
1660Ti Next
What performance i can expect on R5 5600x 16gb ram and 6700xt?
30-40 fps in CPU intensive areas, but enabling FG will make it 60+
This is at 1080p high. And it's a guess from what I've tested so far
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks, looking forward to 6700xt video 👀
@@zWORMzGaming i have the same pc, its fine for me
Medium could hit 60 fps most of the time I think.
This gpu will forever be among the best! ❤
you could do some great funny gameplay videos playing games from start to finish! have you thought of that? you are charming for the camera and funny!
I am waiting for RX 6600/RX 6600XT testing from you.
Finally I can say my RTX 4060 crushes the GTX 1080 TI
It's bit weird since 1080Ti is faster than 3060 and also u got far better CPU. I guess that's the power of DLSS as I've also tried FSR Q for fun and I got less fps.
With my 3060 11G and R7 5700X I get like 80-100fps in this demanding town and mostly over 100 in other areas using DLSS Q + FG all Medium w/ Epic textures @ 1080p. It looks quite decent and very playable at the cost of some mouse lag. W/o FG its around 45fps in that town and elsewhere 60 on avg.
GTX 1660 super pleaseee on this game
why not try slightly higher or customized settings tho?
The graphic card is not the problem here....what surprises me is that there is no graphical solution for low presets where it can at least compete with games from previous generations in ultra setting.
Chad force gtx 1080 Ti 🗿
Hey, could you make testing with RTX 2060 in Stalker 2 6GB Version? Its could be intresting. And funny thing, i have RTX 4070 with Ryzen 7 5700X, and in first camp FPS drop to 40 with DLSS Quality without Frame Generation. This game needs more and more patches to fix it.
yeahhhhh my r5 3600 chugged with a 3060 ti. that bar cutscene dropped my fps to 13 and bricked it to 13 even when i got out of the bar. had to restart by quitting the game while in the bar and then reloading it and starting in the bar fixed it, but damn was that painful.
I was surprised how well a 1660 series card held up
What's the bitrate do you use for your videos? It seems like your videos is much blurrier compared to others
from what i've read, it does use Lumen yes
This game will be worth playing after couple years once modders fix it and make it 10 times better you know it's true i mean look at anomaly and gamma
All the flickering is a result of Lumen and Nanite actually, it's trying to render triangles and simulate lighting but dunno what to do with your low end hardware.
Doesn't matter. It will always be a lengadary chip. Best GPU for your buck I've ever owned.
Try on 7800xt
Why are all your cards so cool? Are you blowing air conditioning on them?
I know this might look insane but are you looking to try iGPUs/laptop GPUs in that game? :D
Looks like Fallout 3 at this level >.
Every game will be finished 3-6 months after launch. That's just the way it is now.
Remarkable that the little GPU that could just keeps soldiering on and being relevant. S2:H.o.C is busy downloading for me, I'm looking forward to wasting my weekend killing mutants!
RX6600 and 4070ti next, please!
Theres a mod out now that helps with Performance i Tried it works really well if anyone still on 1080 or lower download that mod it will help out a lot
I’ll pick it up in 2 years when it’s out of early access lol.
bro what day will come rx 5700xt in 2024?
it's been a while that ive watched a video of yours
how's digimoon ?
fsr is kinda broken in this game? and tsr options are weird, but at least it looks better
Nvidia got tired of people praising the 1080TI... Nvidia finally defeated the 1080TI with this one...
people telling that 1080 ti is better than 3060 ti xd 1080 ti cannot even handle new titles anymore but its goat card
Me with a 1080ti downloading stalker 2 while watching this:
Damn. Someone who allegedly had it early did a Q&A and when asked about percentage of buildings that could be entered, he replied "most can be entered". Guess he lied?
Can you test the 6600 xt?
I believe it would be worth it to go up to atleast medium settings on this graphics card, or customize them a little bit. It works well at 1080p still.
100%... theres a LOT of room, textures to epic and some basic ambient occlusion and u have much better image at same FPS. Actually, I believe u can make the game look good and run nicely at 1080p with FG and FSR AA... And I wonder, what would forcing DX11 do to a performance... it might be VERY surprising...
Kyrzpo we need some radiation i mean radeon perfomance tests please
Long live kryzzp and digimoon
7:37 BUG TSR upscaling QUALITY-BALANCED should automaticaly change Resolution Scale to 66% (TSR wasn't applied in this case at 100% RS 😐) 10:22 FSR automaticaly changes Resolution Scale to 66%.😃 BTW TSR upscaling is the only one who hasn't GHOSTING in unreal 5.4 demo - FSR311, XESS13 have like water behind car, FG - multiple car bumpers visible 🤣
My 4080 works fine with AMD Framegen. Without framegen fps is roughly 70-80 fps everything maxed. With framegen on fps goes to roughly 110-120 fps.
Yes, the stalker 2 may not be very optimized at first, but the studio has gone through a lot of challenges:
Due to the russian invasion, the studio was forced to move to another country, and some of the employees bravely decided to defend Ukraine.
Many people emphasize the poor optimization of Stalker 2, but nowadays most studios, even when they are in comfortable conditions, are unable to optimize their games before release, and fix it with months-long patches
For Stalker 3, the 4090 might suffer the same fate.
No, it will run only on minimally required ASOS C0CK Xtreme 10GHz edition RTX 6090 ti Super 69GB HBM3 vram, AMD Ryzen Threadripper 14990WX (256 cores, 512 threads @ 7.35 GHz, 2GB of L3 on-core cache), 512GB DDR8 96000MHz cl128 and Assrock X1099 Hot mommy edition, it will requires 6kWatt PSU and also 32TB of free space and 20TB/sec bandwith speed from ur drive.
well see y'all in 20 years for that one guys.
Hey mad could you test the gtx 1080 in bo6? I need to know if it will run for me.
Would afmf2 and anti lag on AMD cards have lower latency on driver frame gen?
Why not at least turn up textures even when everything is at low?? The 11Gb Vram would be enough for at least high textures.
nvidia finally decided to kill the 1080ti, a lot of people will be upgrading this fall i reckon.
remember when this card was for 2k ?
Zworm is the RTX 2070 super good for double a games
No game should ever use medium settings unless you're on a entry level GPU. High settings (not ultra) should always be the default.
waiting RTX 3080
Bro can you test 1660S or 1660 Ti ?
very nice
you need to disable the gpu acceleration in windows to use fsr frame gen if its not working with the 4090
hey kryzzp can you do me an favor nno im currently trying make an pc for gaming i have a big problem wich gpu will i get can tell me what gpu is better rtx 4080 super or amd redeon rx 7900xtx wich one is best please reply
Why Nvidia cards are getting tested first????? We wanna see AMD cause it has ray tracing and lumen built in
Cuz most people have nvidia cards, to this day
Rtx 3060
Ryzen 7 5800 H
16gb ram
Doest it run ? 🤔 Should i buy ?
Bro why you don't check other settings?
Well that was fast :D
Yessir! 😃
i was not expecting such awful performance and visuals😅 it’s probably because of ue5 not being optimized for older cards (200w tdp when the card is capable of up to 280)
do the 3060 next ( 12 gb one if possible )
Can you check intel vs AMD CPU? Like 14900k vs your 7950X3D?
I only have this one! On the high end at least
I must be dreaming or did I just saw some developers implemented 3.1 fsr in this decade? 😂
RIP +200W 1080Ti ...
Please test on 1440p
mad to think the 1080ti is no longer considered a good card lol
Modding is your friend if you wanna play Stalker 2 on a 1080 Ti.
you should test the 5500xt
Try amd gpus