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Schaff calls Saul! This time he is pretty pleased with Saul's services.
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Funny how most people didn't give Better Call Saul a chance by seeing it as Breaking Bad's subpar little brother, just as how Chuck saw Jimmy
Underrated comment!
But it turned out to be its twin brother instead
Yeah I love BB and have rewatched it 6 times. Got through the first 2 seasons of BCS as they released but then stopped watching. Recently went back and binged BB again and then went on to BCS. I was absolutely blown away. BCS is absolutely incredible and in some ways, surpasses BB. It's so sad that the Breaking Bad time line is likely finished, just because Vince, Peter, and Tom are such geniuses lol
I mean I watched the entire thing and that's exactly what it is
@@charlesw7397 Yeah, I'm gonna try watching them in this order next: BCS 1-3, BB1-2(episode 8), BCS 4-6(except last episodes), rest of BB, El Camino and then the last episodes of BCS.
-Peter Gould saves a bunch of people from a fire.
-Crowd of people watching : “ Bravo Vince!”
I like this.
Yeah it bothers me because Better Call Saul is covered in Peter Gould's DNA
I didnt realise gould took over near the end of 3, TBH I thought the writing fell off badly in 4 and 5. I guess that's why.
most people forget about Gould, poor guy
@@davidcauley9400 WTF. 4 and 5 are the best seasons!
The part that really killed me in the last few episodes wasn't the emotional scenes, but just watching the monotony and feeling the sense of emptyness in Kim's lives as well as the fact that Jimmy's exploits didn't feel silly like before. They felt malicious and downright evil.
Yeah I hated how hollow Kim seemed. She never once had an opinion and let everything just wash over her. That kind of suburban monotony is horrifying to me. However I did like the hope that got introduced when she started volunteering at the free lawyer office. She seemed to come back to life in those brief scenes.
the last two episodes use spot color very effectively. the "better call saul!" ad reflected in gene's glasses and the cigarette in the prison room are the only colored things in their respective episodes, and they're parts of the past that have been lost forever.
@@scoople6 that was Jimmy's old office wasn't it? thought that was weird tbh
@@doperat9630 that definitely was not Saul's old office. The free lawyer that Kim volunteered for was in Florida not New Mexico.
agree, it is very heartbreaking seeing how lifeless kim's life looks like, it is as if she doesnt have soul anymore. after her confession toward howard wife, i can feel a sense of heavy burden suddenly lifted from her shoulder, that cry scene is hard to watch. and lastly that last smoke scene between jimmy and kim, is so iconic and so bitter sweet, i just cant. man this universe is so perfectly written.
On the Nacho part. I LOVE how Nacho scared Gus in the end. Gus tried to use fear as a motivator on him and it backfired on him beautifuly. Nacho was the king in that last scene of his, he could've decided Gus's fate then and there. And Gus knew it, you could see how sick he and nervous he was in that scene. And it impacted Gus's strategies even until Breaking Bad.
Also on the Nacho part, I don't see the Walter White appeal of him at all. He feels way more like season 4-5 Jesse Pinkman to me. An ordinary guy that's in the game but wants out, and turns against his boss/partner (I.E. Jesse collaborating with the DEA to arrest Walter White and Nacho switching the pills causing Hector to be paralyzed for life).
@@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 More like "El Camino" Jesse, considering what Jesse did to those guys before changing identities and what Nacho was willing to do in the last episode he was in "El Camino" Jesse feels more fitting
Edit: grammar fixes, adding in the rest of my thoughts I forgot to add in
Slight mistake but Nacho didn’t just want to paralyze hector, he wanted to straight up kill him and would’ve succeeded if Gus didn’t want to get his revenge on hector
I already noticed how startlingly accurate his line "I don't believe fear to be an effective motivator" was in breaking bad, and yet I never realized how he learned that from Nacho.
@@Cat-pv6yx Yeah, "You were dead and buried, and I had to watch THIS asshole bring you back" when referring to Gus.
My favorite scene was when one of the inmates said: "It‘s Better Call Saul" and then all the inmates all Sauled all over the Bus
Truly one of the moments of the show, Bravo Vince
What's funny is that if someone read this without seeing the finale they would think it's just another meme comment
It's amazing that this is canon
It's funny because for once it actually happens for real lmfao
So... am I the only one who doesn't find this meme funny anymore? Like, it was funny at first, but it's kinda a "no one: me:" 2.0 now.
I honestly really like the scene between Kim and Jesse. Seeing the deuteragonists of their respective shows interact just feels satisfying. Plus it happens at a point where Kim has gone through her descent as a character and is ready for a fresh start, while Jesse is about to begin his descent into madness before he can get his. Plus plus it's the only scene in the entire Breaking Bad universe that takes place in a heavy downpour, as Jesse practically points out to the audience which I thought was neat. This scene may be fanservice but I'd say it's about as tasteful as fanservice gets and still has a thematic purpose to it so Vravo Bince.
Jesse had it so much worse then Kim
Its bananas this rain!
Mentioning the only rain scene in the show...did blow my mind right now. Thx lol
@@TheGoldenNostril nobody is saying BCS is higher stakes or more truamatic than BB. Half of that's the point, this is the inevitable build up from Jimmy the aspiring lawyer trying to be better than his past, to Saul Goodman a dishonest and sleezy lawyer who enabled the horrific acts in BB. And it makes it all the more tragic that Jimmy could still slip through the cracking face of fake tan and sleezy that was Saul in those few moments in Breaking Bad that shows us there's more to these characters
Bro stealing comments left and right Lmao
she also literally passes the torch/lit cigarette to the next person who's inner darkness is about to be unlocked by a morally ambigous criminal
my favourite part was when the inmate said "hey, that's better call saul!" and all the prisoners started to chant "better call saul, better call saul" over and over again.
I like how this isn't a meme
Yeah this sounds like a “it’s saulin’ time” kind of comment, probably the actual most out of place moment in the show
“Say my name”
“You’re Breaking Bad”
“You’re goddamn right”
@@TheShadyNoodlesShow I wouldn't say it's out of place. Jimmy built a massive image for himself, that evidently with the taxi driver, persists over half a decade since disappearing. People from all over had business with him, those other inmates likely had friends who've consulted Saul or even consulted him themselves.
I think the point of the scene was to really hammer in that even if he himself wanted to rid himself of Saul Goodman (in the courtroom), that's all people knew of him know (sort of like karma for what he did to Howard's legacy) and know he has to live with that in the prison.
If I hadn't watched the episode I'd never believe this was true
The end of Schaff's character arc with this show nearly brought a tear to my eye. This is why 'Better Crab Schaff' is a masterclass of modern television.
Kid named Crab is such a compelling protagonist 😭😭😭
Kid named pincher
fake king of antarctica i am
How bout "Better Find Shiny"?
@@mumkeymaan4600 as a Pokemon player it is essential that I listen to it every day
The best part was when jimmy got them down to 7 years just to show he could beat them, and then confessed
The best part of Schaffrillas videos is the fact that he gets new and original ideas to share with the world
kind of like a way to say to himself “ive still got it”
@@Mia3d i disagree, but that is another reason this show is so great. We taken different views from it and both makes sense.
@@Mafootion before saul learns about kim's confession he seems pretty calm and confident but there's a clear change in demeanor when he hears what kim did. We see him in what appears to be a state of contemplation in the plane where he likely comes up with a new plan to come clean with kim being present to witness it
Yeah, if Kim wasn't there, i think he was prepared to take the 7. Hence the saul suit
I completely agree Schaff. The greatest achievement of the show is how they took a comic relief character and fleshed him out SO much and SO successfully
Hope he has to look for the audience for some new ideas. I can tell he’s running out of them.
@@emoji3266 Who is he in your comment?
@@upg5147 Schaffrillas. Who did you think I was talking about?
@@emoji3266 Well your comment just doesn't make sense to me so I thought you might mean a character from the show
@Kurtis YES!!
I also think when jimmy and Kim broke up it was the only time they told each other they love each other. It’s a really nice choice
@zetta _ but the way they did it is heartbreakingly phenomenal
@zetta _ What a reference, chad
It's so sad to see Howard be the butt of every joke, he's such a good guy
*insert greatest legal mind gif here*
Howard deserved better, I have scarcely been this sympathetic to a fictional character in my life
@@chonchjohnch he was a decent person in a world of huge assholes. pretty realistic i guess lol
The way he treated Kim never sat right with me but he legitimately deserved better
@@colinhansel3280 he treated her fairly though
SPOILERS:
The part where it's revealed that Jimmy, Saul and Gene were actually three different people and this was a Multiverse Story the entire time really did subvert my expectation. Having the three of them team up to stop a reanimated Lalo from destroying Albuquerque felt a little bit forced but in the end it all was worth it. 100/10
😐
Saul saying "It's Sauling time" and then shooting lightning out of his fingertips to defeat Lalo was truly cinema.
my favorite part was when, after Kim had burnt down the entirety of alberquerque, Saul stabbed Kim and ended her reign of madness.
Making Hector "the Broken" salamanca king of the 7 cartels was a bit forced.
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@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 also the post credit scene of Huell finding Jesse in Alaska & telling him "We got work to do" seems to foreshadow a future installment in the Breaking Bad universe, perhaps El Camino 2: Huell's Rules 🤔
I never understood people who think Breaking Bad should have ended at season 4. That would have been way too open ended and it just wouldn't be a perfect show.
There's people who think that? Season 5 was perfect.
I didn't even know those people existed. I don't know if BB would have stayed with me for as long as it has if not for Ozymandias.
Yeah, the last thing we learned in season 4 was that it was Walt who poisoned brock, not Gus. Would have been a weird way to end things off.
@@dislecsyk991 It was at threat of cancellation after season 4. And alot of people said they would have been fine if it ended there. Which I find bizarre. That would have been an awful ending. I guess it's more some would be okay with the season 4 ending as a series finale.
I feel that would be a cheap way to end things. The end of season 4 is great, no doubt, but it relies to much on shock value to be a conclusive and emotionally satisfying finale. Season 5 is the one that really delves into the characters psyches and shows how they’ve changed over the course of the show, which is why it’s a perfect finale.
I love that despite the show ending with Jimmy in prison with a life sentence, and Kim facing down financial bankruptcy, we still all kind of collectively agree it was a happy ending. Because the characters didn't get what they wanted, and that was exactly what they needed.
In my opinion jimmy asking kim what he needs to do to change for her before she leaves him, was foreshadowing of him realizing he was just a bad person.
I think that Jimmy acts the way he does while him and Kim sign the divorce papers not because he become too immoral but because he’s emotionally shielding himself. He puts on this “i don’t give a shit” mask because otherwise this whole thing would break him even more.
You're completely right. He told Kim he loved her and begged her not to leave him, and she left him anyway. Is he supposed to keep begging and acting emotional? Why? She already knows exactly how he feels about this whole thing.
That's exactly how he copes with Chuck being gone too. He acts like he doesn't care but he still feels grief over it, and especially since Chuck flat out told him "You don't matter to me" he is still hurting.
As Vince Gilligan himself said (i think): "Breaking Bad was a story about a man becoming evil, Better Call Saul is a story about a man becoming dead inside"
Definitely. Jimmy said it best: "She left town, but I'm the one who ran away"
I like the scene where Saul brings up the timemachine to Walt. After Walt says his regret about Gray Matter and Saul lights up and wished he'd try to sue them, Walt says "you're the last person I'd have as a lawyer", Saul kind of just smiles a bit, shielded with the Saul persona, then when Saul confesses his 'regret' during a scam, Walt says "So you've always been like this", Sauls smile just immediately melts. It hit Jimmy personally, through the Saul persona
He went from a lawyer, to a criminal lawyer, to a criminal. Gene was supposed to be the end, yet SOMEHOW he found a way to CONTINUE down bad choice road. The path destroyed him already, and then he picked up the pieces just to smash them to bits even more.
Its also notable how Jimmy got his big break defending the elderly with Sandpiper, people who were neglected and lonely. And then there he was in the second to last episode, threatening the very type of person he would have defended without hesitation all those years ago
The last episode is so full of parallels, references, dramatic irony and all sort of call back from the whole show, you could do this for weeks.
At least it’s better than Game of thrones season 8. Literally everything is better than Game of Thrones season 8.
Ok but that dance off
Jimmy is freer as an inmate than he was as Saul Goodman
You make it sound like criminal laywers are bad lol (I know you mean *criminal* lawyer but still)
Not only was this show a masterpiece, it even made Breaking Bad even better. That should be impossible, but they pulled it off!
Is it the same team that was behind breaking bad?
@@jackoplumkin6412 Yup. Literally most of the team from BrB worked on this. The creator, most of the writers, the composer, etc.
I don’t see this take at all. This show achieved that purpose by season 3. We never saw the lab get finished, plus the show just jumps to post breaking bad when shit hits the fan. This take is pure cope
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I just read a comment that said "It's so sad to see Howard be the butt of every joke, he's such a good guy", only to scroll down to this LOL
*EDIT: I'm an idiot, they're 2 different people, idk how I mixed them up, I never did before*
Underrated comment
Kim's breakdown on the bus was one of very few scenes that made me actually full on cry over a piece of media, such an incredible show
I feel bad cause I had to skip through the scene I got so much second hand embarrassment like "what is this? you aren't supposed to cry in public. you bottle that up and cry on the inside."
@@GippyHappy ummm?
@@Jack-ol1io I’ll keep all my emotions right here, and then one day *I’ll die*
This is what I love about the BB & BCS universe. Making me feel sympathy for morally bankrupt people. Jimmy & Kim. They are excellently written characters AND horrible scumbags, at the same time.
@@GippyHappyI think that was the point of the scene, it’s not socially acceptable to just start bawling in public, but she was going through so much pain she couldn’t keep it in anymore even for a second
He did it
He called Saul.
I'm so proud of you ❤
Wow. All three replies are bots.
@@LeoGaming55 Finally, it's here, he called Saul.
Now he just needs to fuel Huell.
@@LeoGaming55 Luv me some bot in *every single* comment.
@@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 Gotta Fuel Huell
Who the hell is Saul?
It takes a real crab to admit when they're wrong Schaff. Good for you!
I second that
These Bots Good god
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 every time I report one 2 more take its place.
He reviewed a slow burn show that wasn't even over yet
@@pascalg16 like I said it takes a crab to admit when they're wrong.
Nacho isn't really comparable to Walter White. If anything he's the anti Walter White, the Walter Black if you will. He's someone that is deep into the life of crime and wants nothing more than to get out of it, all for his family. He spends most of his time on the show trying to find a way to get out of that life whereas Walter wanted nothing more but to be the most powerful person in that life all for himself.
The worst is that he's not that deep in at the start, he just wants to defend himself from Tuco's psychotic behavior, but in doing so he causes even worse problems for himself. He should have just abandoned all crime and left town (I don't see why the Salamancas would care about him if he didn't say anything to the DEA), instead he tried to stay in the crime world and stay safe at the same time, which didn't work out in the end.
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Walter Negro y Azul
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Someone do it
I see him as a parallel to Jesse actually. Especially in seasons 4 and 5 and El Camino.
I rarely see people talk about Francesca and i think it’s worthwhile mentioning! Another proof of how great the writing was at tying these two shows together since she was also the comic relief on the Saul scenes on BB. Showing how she actually started enjoying her job as a bubbly receptionist when she met Jimmy and she slowly gets more and more put off by Saul’s lack of morals which turns her into someone extremely displeased by her job but that’s already in too deep. Great writing !
I love how the end of this show was basically the inverse of breaking bad. both shows end with the protagonists crimes catching up to them, but Walter white admits he enjoyed them, that he was ultimately a selfish person hiding behind excuses. meanwhile jimmy not only owns up to his mistakes but proves that he can love someone selflessly, in contrast to Walter who always had an aspect of needing to get something out of his relationships.
And I love how it's open ended conclusion also managed to be satisfying. endings like that often run the risk of feeling like a cop out, but I feel they did it perfectly. things didn't get better, but there is the potential for them to get better. Kim didn't regain her old hairstyle and jimmy's world didn't go back into color. too much has changed. but when that lighter is lit, it's in color. there is hope, they've made amends and now they can continue forward, whatever that future may hold.
> meanwhile jimmy not only owns up to his mistakes but proves that he can love someone selflessly
Something I loved about Jimmy and Kim was how loyal they were. We would see how Jimmy would go out of his way to take care of Chuck because he was family. Kim came from a broken family, but we see how her loyalty to Jimmy went so far to test her morality and core principles. Both of them had the utmost loyalty for each other, and a strong but differing sense of wanting to correct injustice and help the helpless. I was caught off guard how the whole show came down to their love story, and how their loyalty and willingness to do anything for the other is finally the thing that puts Jimmy in prison.
that day when gene saw kim, gene died, jimmy lives again. 👏
They both got exactly what they deserved. There is hope for Jimmy. He deserves to be in prison, but he doesn't seem to suffer there and spends the last moments with the love of his life, Kim.
For Walter, there never was hope, that's his motor for the whole show. He must and deserves to die. But his last moments are also peaceful and spend with the his only true love, his chemistry.
I will say, I love Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad equally. But the main factor that I think edges Better Call Saul just a little ahead for me is that despite how compelling, interesting and engaging of a character Walter is, I hate him, while I love Jimmy.
Exactly. It’s a toss up between which I like better and it usually depends on which one I’ve watched the last.
In "Saul Gone," the conversation with Walter where he said something like, "time machines are impossible, you want to talk about regrets," and how he kept insisting that Gretchen and Elliot had it out for him reminded me of how insufferable he could be. Even Mike, as stoic as he is, humored Saul and answered his time machine question without making a stink about it.
Honestly, the "i trusted you" moment was the climax of the character. He had to choose right then whether he would continue to "break bad" and commit murder, or retract into a previous version of himself. Imagine if he had gone through with it. We would all be despising him rather than weeping in grief for the loss of saul or the joy in Jimmy's return. The fact that he chose redemption was a heroic act, saving himself from himself so to speak
That was refreshing and satisfying for me mostly because of 2 reasons: 1) never before we had seen Saul come even CLOSE to murdering someone, let alone the someone being an old innocent lady. Him doing that would be waaaay out of character and just to add shock value and make us despise him; 2) it was enough to watch ONE main character that was an asshole almost from the start. Walter White is IMHO one of the most despicable characters even written and I don't think he's "interesting" at all, he, from day 1, was just a little man with a big brain. I didn't want it to repeat again and, in the last second, hating on a character I thoroughly enjoyed watching for so many years. They did what was the best thing they could do with the ending .
I don’t think he would’ve killed her I think he was gonna tie her up since how the hell would he explain that to Jeff?
Fr. My favorite part was when Jimmy said "I guess... I am the better call Saul..." And then he called Saul... Such an amazing plot ❤️
I think it was the moment when Jimmy and Marion confronted each other, that Marion let him know that he doesn't get to be choosing what he wants every time. The world doesn't work with you getting off scot-free.
@@jimmymcgill5072 wait thats you
Nacho taking control of his life for one single moment at the end after being controlled in every other moment we see him is so perfect
Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad are two of the best shows ever made. 💯👍
The Boys as well and we got a great collection of awesome shows
Band of Brothers, True Detective S1, Westworld S1 and Deadwood are just as good or even better.
And Sopranos
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But Slippin' Jimmy is THE best
The ending was the exact opposite of what I was hoping for. I wanted Jimmy and Kim to find each other again and be together forever somewhere far away, because I wanted them to be happy. But the way the actual ending was written and shot... man, it left me feeling like I got the happy ending I wanted. Just because of how at peace both Jimmy and Kim finally looked. Not happy, but at peace.
And we realize that Chuck was right all this time
@@chune4383 no he wasnt, he was a jealous and egotistical guy who sabotaged his brother and made him feel like he'll never achieve anything in life without cheating.
@@CptnYarrow yea I get that but chuck said saul will always be slippin jimmy and that's true
@@chune4383 and we'll never know how much of that was a self-fulfilling prophecy
season 6 sucked TBH.
i think the big reveal where Walter showed up in his time machine during the final episode and took Gene with him so they could start over was so cool
"we're done when i say we're done" gave me massive chills
Saul is like the funny dude at school but when you really start to talk to him you just get depressed
Schafrillis has just gone through the best character arch imaginable
Vravo Brince
Next up, coming up with new ideas for his video topics
@@OasisMilo bravo finger
Vrabo Brince
@@emoji3266 Does the mario kart characters ranking or the star wars opening crawls raking not original enough for you?
Jimmy going to prison feels like the most satisfying conclusion. The antagonists we’ve seen- the cartels, Gus, Walt- have all “gotten away with it” in the name of the law. None of them ever did time, they died before they faced any legal repercussions. It feels right that the situation involving the lawyer is the only one where some justice for this catastrophic operation is finally served.
It's good tragic irony; the man who so knew the law and how to carefully skirt it was the one to finally be put away by it.
He fought the law and the law won...
The cartel and gus and stuff all died in ways they hated. Nothing that they wanted was complete. Gus revenge was foiled because hector was the one to kill gus in the end. Walter white was the only one who truly "got away with it" because he died having completed everything he wanted
I found the ending absolutely not satisfying.
I hate that self-punishment trope. Jimmy had a chance to start clean after these 7 years of prison, but instead he chose to stay in the criminal world for life - just because he felt regrets and guilt. Instead of doing anything good with his life, at the end all he became is a celebrity among the imprisoned.
There were no sacrifice here. If only his confession would help Kim in some way or somehow repay for the evil he had done. But no, he just give up.
@@tasty_cactus He fought the law, managed to win by only getting 7 years, then satisfied with the fact that he knew he could outsmart it, made the right choice. The law did not win
The fact that the comic relief from breaking bad got his own show that can stand toe to toe dramatically to one of the greatest shows on television is a miracle.
I wouldn’t call it a miracle. It’s just the outcome of really smart writers who know what they’re doing.
Honestly its impressive how the show actually managed to make the "two worlds collide" moment actually effectively shocking, considering it's a pretty big trope in most stories about people leading double lives. Usually its like yeah okay, a criminal rival gang has the main character's wife held hostage, saw that coming, but the way they actually manage to make those two worlds feel so seperate without suspending disbelief is amazing, and the twist just hits hard because of that.
Better call Saul and Breaking bad both had perfect endings. Something that is surprisingly difficult for a tv show to pull off.
You know what has the opposite of a good ending…
Game of Thrones
Can’t wait to see Schaffrillas rip that show apart
It’s pretty amazing that both the shows never had the downward slope that lost shows go through after a few seasons.
My favorite part is when the guy pointed at Saul and said, “Hey, it’s Better Call Saul!” and the other guy said “woah, hey Better Call Saul!” And everyone started clapping and chanting “Better Call Saul! Better Call Saul!” All while Better Call Saul was just sitting there.
Bravo Vince, you did it again
@Xfish726 What happened lol
@@thecapitalg Exactly what he said
"What are we? Some kind of Better call Saul©®?"
Michael Mando is an exceptional actor, I wish he gets more shows after this
For the record, the number one person you should thank for this show being great is Peter Gould - he was the show runner, with Gilligan co-running just the first couple of seasons.
Bravo Peter
Go for Gould
The last six episodes were my first time watching a show as each episode came out (I got onto the show a few months before in anticipation of it ending) and to get the character of Saul Goodman re-contextualized in a tragic light week by week discussing it and reading up theories was an incredibly fun experience!
Overall, I'd say that I prefer Breaking Bad as it's greater emphasis on the thriller elements are more appealing, but I was equally as invested in the characters between both shows. Both have some pretty incredible highs!
Not only do both shows have such incredible highs, but even their worst episodes are very solid.
@@joshuafischer684 exactly. Even with their worst episodes, I still feel: “well they had to exist to further the story.” They were never worthless and that takes amazing writing
Almost same here!
I had to wait for the last 4 episodes but I think that made it even better. Sich an amazong show, I loved it a lot
One of the reasons that I love the final episode so much is that they gave closure to 2 other incredibly important characters other than Jimmy and Kim.
Mike’s scene with Nacho’s dad in 609 is great and shows how far he’s fallen (the line nachos death says about killing someone being ‘revenge’, not ‘justice’) truly completes Mike’s path to where he is in Breaking Bad but you don’t really have a gratifying final moment of reflection from him due to how sudden his death is. Having Mike say his biggest regret is taking his first bribe is a perfect send-off for such a tragic character. Taking his first bribe first broke him for his son, led to his son’s death and also started him down the path of crime and really was his ‘bad choice road’. A perfect full circle.
Another character who had perfect closure is Marie. I didn’t expect it at all but for her to speak about Hank to Saul the way she did in that scene was not only moving, but was a great connective tissue that to me makes the final episode of the show not only a perfect conclusion to Saul but a perfect conclusion to the BB/BCS franchise as a whole. Then when Saul/Jimmy finally tells the truth and confesses everything, Marie being at the trial is also perfect as she gets to see legal justice be done to Saul.
It’s great that they focussed on the victims of everything Jimmy/Saul/Gene has been involved with in both shows in the final few episodes of BCS. BB having its focussed storyline meant it primarily focussed on Walt’s central issues (his family, the men who killed Hank, Jesse pinkman and his money) but BCS is able to take its time with every major victim of all the events that happen in both shows.
Bit of a long comment but man I love this show and BB. We may never see any shows that come close to these in the future. They complement each other so well and also are excellent in their own right.
Mike's scene with Nacho is genius.
It was so weird watching Mike doing everything in his power to avoid pulling the trigger after seeing that methodical killing machine in Breaking Bad, but since the day he killed Werner, he kept getting only worse and blaming himself for all of the actions that took him there. The scene with Nacho's dad perfectly sums up how an actual good person would react to that totally messed up situation, we oftenly forget that it's not actually right to kill the criminals because _they deserve it,_ so when we see Mike "agreeing" with him but incapable of taking a turn in his life, we can see his character arc is complete and he is truly the Mike we watched in the original series
My mom is a lawyer who never watched breaking bad and I watched better call Saul with her while I was home for winter break. She loved it and she said she didn’t feel like it was inaccessible because she didn’t watch breaking bad. It was really cool to see her perspective on all of the legal stuff and I think she really identified with Kim.
it’s literally so refreshing to hear people acknowledge Kim as a character and not a female character like, no she’s not one of the most well written female characters she’s one of the most well written characters!!! I hate to see people reduce characters to their gender and act like they don’t compare to male counterparts it’s the worst
Howard Hamlin is one of the brightest male legal minds the world has ever known
The main lawyer in the Breaking Bad universe being the only character to get prosecuted and end up in prison is just perfect
It is incredible that Vince nailed the finales on 2 freakin shows. TWO! The odds were way against him. Boy, how much pressure will be on Vince if he does another series? I wish him nothing but the best. It truly feels like a miracle when the end of the series is loved by at least 75 to 90% of the fans. This was an awesome show!
I mean, BCS was Peter Gould's brainchild and people give Gilligan most of the credit for the writing even though he stopped being a showrunner a long while ago... Despite that, his writing and directing is still superb across 3 different decades, so there's no reason to say that he doesn't deserve a good amount of credit when he created this world. Same with the respect that we should give to the other writers and directors who crafted their own masterful episodes in this series.
Speaking of which….
Game of Thrones has a great ending to the show which makes the character arcs much more likable and interesting
- said no one ever
I mean it was Peter Gould's finale but ok
@@ShadowKoto It's always interesting how if there is two people who work on something one person always gets nearly all the credit while the other who put in an even or sometimes greater amount gets barely any credit. It's just odd how collectively most of the internet is incapable of attributing the success of a work to more than one person
Peter gould
The final "Hi Jimmy" from Kim is just everything
Vince Gilligan in 2008: *Creates arguably the greatest television show of all time*
Vince Gilligan in 2015: "Wanna see me do it again?"
Peter Gould who helped with the majority of better call Saul:
I just started watching Breaking Bad for the first time and now I'm understanding why everyone loves it. When Saul showed up I immediately understood why he needed a spin off. Can't wait to finish BB and start watching Better Call Saul!
I mean after the Boys and Invincible, I started watching shows like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul and which was the best decision ever
I need to start Breaking Bad sometime.
If were you I will watch the first two seasons of BB, then Better Call Saul until 6x09, then finish BB and El Camino.
Now all we be tied in the final chapters of BCS
Well I've seen the Pizza scene so we aren't stopping there.
Almost half the replies on this are bots
damn, not only do you accept when you were wrong, still standing behind genuine criticisms you have, but you put the slow burn of bcs into a different perspective for me, bravo vince, truly you are an omnipitent god and Schaffrilla is your magnum opus
I can’t wait to see his perspective of new ideas for his video topics. What do you suggest?
I have yet to see the rest of BCS, but I never understood the thought that BB should have ended after Gus’ death. The show at its centre is about Walt’s transformation into a villain, not just simply him killing someone who was at the time more powerful than him.
I don't necessarily think that BB should have ended after season 4 because I think that there were really powerful and necessary scenes (like the ones mentioned in the video), but there were some ways in which S5 of BB felt weird to me because of the fact that Gus was already dead. While it's true that Gus was someone who was more powerful than Walt at the time, I really don't think he was *just* someone who was more powerful. Even before I saw BCS, Gus really felt like this powerful threat and all-encompassing force who had a lot of character traits that were unexpected and unlike the other antagonists. Seeing Gus go down was incredibly climactic and having S5 just introduce so many new characters we hadn't seen before felt less satisfying, even if it was realistic in terms of the scope of the show.
That said, I agree with you that BB should not have ended in a "Walt vs. [insert antagonist here]" story because that's not really what the show is about, and ironically, if Gus were a worse-written character, I probably wouldn't feel as strongly. Even with these opinions though, I really don't know how I would write BB differently since the ending of both BB and BCS really do a good job of tying up the loose ends both plot wise and with their characters.
@@FTFP1300 To be honest. I remember it being only a few new characters, mainly Todd, Lydia and Jack. They were barely ever the focus, compared to Walt.
Jimmy and Kim breaking up fucking tore me apart. Like you said they’re both bad at this point but just watching Jimmy desperately just beg for Kim to stay with him was so hard to watch because of how close to home it hit but also just the performances. This whole show is incredible and I commented on your first vid pointing out the things you said but I still wasn’t upset with you for having your thoughts on it and it’s pretty wack people actually went to your sponsors…
The El Camino movie was pretty solid and I personally think both Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad are two shows that don't have a single bad episode in their entire run. At worst they would have an episode that was good. But nothing mediocre or bad IMO. That's so rare. This team gave us some of the best pieces of art of the 21st Century.
I rewatched el Camino and genuinely I love it. Just a self contained story that fleshes out another part of the universe. I enjoyed it more after watching breaking bad
>don't have a single bad episode in their entire run
Idk bro, the episode where skyler cheats on Walt with her boss made me wanna game end myself in minecraft
@@songbirdsandsandwiches8217 that doesn't mean the episode is bad at all.
@@songbirdsandsandwiches8217 Cool, but that's just a stupid point
breaking bad fly episode says otherwise
The truly amazing thing these writers did was to create a prequel that added so much to the original series, and also did not contradict anything either. This series should be taught in film school on how to create a prequel. I am interested to rewatch Breaking Bad knowing all that I now know about James Morgan McGill.
I'd also love to see someone re-edit the entire series completely in chronological order (like Chronologically LOST)
It would be visual whiplash, the first episode of BB and the last episode of BCS look so different, and everything in between too (seriously, the first season of Breaking Bad looks like a 1990s movie)
i dont think itd work. even the scenes that are designed to connect BB's scenes and imitate its visual style don't quite get it right visually, letalone how different both stories are
also i dont think you're supposed to watch BCS before BB, i always felt like BCS explains but also extends the tragedy of the events of BB when you know the fate of these characters.
like mike's death for me hit incredibly different knowing who he was in BCS.
I won’t lie the Jesse scene killed me cause how happy he was. Im currently rewatching breaking bad with a friend, and that scene and watching Jesse being tortured for like 5 seasons was crazy.
I truly think that Jimmy's court scene is the perfect close for the show.
I initially thought that Jimmy was going to somehow screw Kim over, he had gotten the sentence that he asked for (with even the ice cream XD)
Yet with all of that, he instead chose to throw away the Slippin' Jimmy/Saul Goodman persona and he finally admitted to everything that he did knowing full well that if he confessed that he would be going away for a long time, if not forever. Which ended up happening.
Instead of running Jimmy faced himself and his actions not as Saul Goodman or Gene Takavic, but as himself
Truly an amazing conclusion.
To be honest I thought that the show had built Gene/Saul’s immorality so strongly by the end that it felt kind of cheap that Jimmy could just suddenly revive. It kind of felt rushed, and I think that it lacked the long, subtle, and admittedly glacial character development that the entire rest of the show was built on. Jimmy’s revival just came so far out of nowhere by that point that his redemption felt sort of worthless.
@@samuelkomay8058 i sorta thought the same but i rewatched recently, i think what set the reckoning in motion was at the end of the penultimate episode when Marion says "i trusted you". notice how Gene kept getting closer and closer until she says that, it seems to touch upon something deeper within him. he's got this sorta...stunned look on his face and he starts to ease up, letting go of the LifeAlert, before Marion makes the call and he goes on the lam.
in the finale, JMM learns about Kim's confession, and that she's basically letting the civil lawsuit happen; i think there's also a detail that clues him into realizing that Kim confessed not to screw him over, but to atone for what she did, but i don't remember it. whenever we see him "confess" in the show, it's almost always a ploy; the season 4 finale bar speech, his breakdown with the security guard in 6x10 "Nippy", etc. i think it's there where he learns confession isn't just a tactic to screw someone else ever. when Oakley comes back from the bathroom, he suddenly says he has something that involves Kim, thus getting her into the court where he can confess too
this is my interpretation tho
@@samuelkomay8058 Yeah I felt complicated about this too because I also didn't like the idea of Jimmy getting a full redemption. I think that a better way of thinking about it for me is less of a full redemption, but more a final cry to relieve his conscience. If he had taken the sentence, he likely wouldn't be able to live with himself, and he probably would never have talked to Kim again. This was a chance for him to be able to live with himself and talk to Kim for one last time.
It's still weird for me because Jimmy's confession in the end isn't doing anything positively for anyone, it's really just hurting himself, but I think that I see that as more him doing what he believes he needs to do rather than some sort of optimal choice in the end.
Honestly really brave of you to re-evaluate your past analysis of a show Schaffrillas!! Good on ya!
Yeah good for you
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"brave" lmao. Sure, in a plus sized model kind of way.
This show was surprisingly awesome, and it might as well be one of the best shows of 2022
It’s better than a lot of the Disney + shows
@@chasehedges6775 all*
It's one of the best shows of all time. Jimmy McGill is one of the most complex and layered characters written since Tony Soprano
Speaking of which…
When is Schaffrillas ever going to talk about Sid the Sloth in Encanto
What would be the competition?
Been saying this for years. I knew you would back track because this show is amazing. Great on you for admitting you can be wrong. Not many people can do this. I’m just so sad because I loved every second of this show.
I loved chuck, and I was so glad when Jimmy brought him up and confessed his guilt in the courtroom about it. And the scene with chuck to me is where jimmy would travel back to, and it’s just a day where he chose not to have a conversation with chuck, when chuck actively wanted him to stay. It’s so great, and simple, but so much in that simplicity. Chuck was one of the best characters on the show. To me that jimmy - chuck relationship is the core of the show and to lose that half way through the show took balls of the BCS team but they pull it off and it works
Really? You love Chuck? But people hated him as I saw the comments under a video about Chuck committing suicide.
that scene with chuck in the final episode was also like, in a way, jimmy’s time travel machine moment - in addition to seeing that time travel book there that we also saw before, some people have also pointed out that it looks like that scene took place right before the events of the very first episode (jimmy asked him about that newspaper he likes, then on the first episode he’s shown to bring it to chuck’s house) so it’s like a full circle moment. jimmy & chuck’s bad choice road: if only things were better between them.
I loved Chuck as a character but disliked him as a person
The last shot of the show was perfect cause it circles back to the ending of season 4. After Jimmy gives his speech and reveals to Kim that he lied the camera zooms out and they are further away from each other, and when Jimmy went to go sign his new name Kim stand there and the wall blocks her.
At the end, Kim leaves and the wall blocks Jimmy. It’s brilliant, and shows they thought of every single frame of this show.
When I started the series I was more focused on the destination than the journey because we knew how it would turn out. But as it went on I found I didn’t really care about that anymore because the journey and it’s characters were so engaging. I think the chuck cameo in the finale hit me more than the walt one.
one of the most important things to learn from this show is, when a man is transforming into evil.
his hair fades aswell.
Good one lol.
The hair is the source of moral goodness in the Vinceverse, like Samson and his strength from his hair lol
I literally just finished Better call Saul 20 minutes ago and my god the finale made me cry so much, it had me tearing up with the scene with Chuck and Jimmy and by the end the last time with Jimmy and Kim smoking together had me crying so much because of how much I wanted them to be happy together.
Glad to see you’ve been converted to a true Saul-ite.
Breaking Bad is still better
BETTER 👊 CALL 👊 SAUL 👊
@@bigrotary7023 It's not illegal to love both shows
Walt was struggling with trying to get money for his family after he passed while falling deeper and deeper into the criminal underworld, and he dies eliminating the people that nearly broke him while also knowing that money would eventually reach his family.
Jesse was struggling with trying to get away from his criminal life after getting dragged in by Walt, and his story ends with him finally getting out after all of his hardship.
Jimmy struggled with his identity crisis and his slow deterioration into his Saul Goodman persona, and his story ends with him owning up to his mistakes and finally coming forward with all the terrible things he’s done.
All three of the main characters in this universe were in very different situations by the end of their stories and yet all three of their endings are extremely satisfying and fitting of their characters, which I love.
It also shows the 3 fates of criminals, ether dead, jail or on the run, through 2 other options are harder to get though, either getting away with it all or actually escaping from the criminal life and reforming
I find your comparing the people contacting surfshark to Chuck hilarious because that is literally what Jimmy did to Chuck
Yeah I don’t like Chuck but Shaff irationally hates him so much that was way more of Jimmy like thing than a Chuck like thing. I feel like the type of people that have Shaff’s opinion on Chuck are the same type of people that think Walter White is a good person
@@joshwhite5730 Chuck is an awful human being with mental issues. You don't need to not hate Jimmy to hate Chuck
@@joshwhite5730 Yeah, honestly Chuck doesn't do that much bad it's all about the framing.
He's like the Skyler of this show did nothing wrong but the fanbase hates them.
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 I'm sorry but no, what Chuck was doing to Jimmy was literally psychological abuse, even if he probably wasn't realising it. The whole point of their relationship was that Chuck "made Saul Goodman" by always putting Jimmy down (even if it's more nuanced than that). Skyler in the other hand just wanted to protect her family against the drug kingpin, murderer (and even implied rapist) that her husband became. Chuck is practically a villain against Jimmy and they both did really awful things to each other, while Skyler is a legit victim of Walt. They are not comparable at all.
@@ramhthewatermelon By the Skyler I meant how the fanbase treats him.
Start of BCS: "Ok where's funny Saul"
End of BCS: "Wheres Jimmy I want him back"
The finale might be more satisfying to me than the BB, it’s something about Saul that feels so cathartic. I felt like an emotional weight lifted off me, it felt so good to watch these characters that don’t exist, but I love nonetheless get there ending felt so satisfying.
Love the review Schaff! Great of you to go back and talk about your previous review.
Walt, Jimmy and Jesse all were satisfied with their endings to. Walt died with a faint smile knowing he did what a had to do before he died. Jesse drove away knowing he can start over and Jimmy was content with going to jail knowing he confessed to his crimes and restored his relationship with Kim.
Schaff:”I was wrong about better call Saul”
Fans:”THAT WAS YOUR MISTAKE “!!!
Nacho's downward spiral was the gut punch for me; especiallythe phone call to his dad. I agree with the actor's ( Mando ) joking assessment that Nacho's character arc was "breaking good".
Kid named redemption arc indeed
a thing about walter, as interesting as he was, he was never more interesting than jimmy, they always mention his past but we never see it, for jimmy we see him and chuck develop this complex relationship, jimmy had way more interesting schemes than walter did in the show (that he also participated in and didn't just order over the phone) , just watching saul make his own terms so comfortable that he lowered down 122 years to 7 years (with good behaviour probably even 3 years) is alot more interesting than anything any character has done in the show, he pretty much could get away with it all. and to see him wake up and start facing consequences for his actions unlike walt who just kept going deeper and deeper and lacked any control over his transformation into this monster, saul was still jimmy on the inside and he let marion live just because he didn't have it in him to hurt or kill her for his survival (at least jimmy's)
He *never* physically hurt anybody -except for maybe Howard but he -*-paid-*- for that so,- even when he could have
@@isaacpianos5208 he didn't shoot howard in the head either, he hurts everyone around him indirectly, he doesn't have to pull the trigger on howard or burn chuck alive, he ruined howard's image and stopped his brother from practicing law (which indirectly got them both killed)
@@mahino420 yeah, I explicitly said "physically" because of that
He did a lot of shit but he was never agressive
I know that barely makes it better but it's nice to see
Couldn't Believe that we will get these two shows sequel Breaking Bad 2: The Rise of Flynn and Better Fuel Huell in 2069.
"Schaff clearly never called Saul"
LMAOOO that comment deserves some more belated attention I'm dying
The, I think the moment Jimmy truly died is when Chuck died after leaving Jimmy on such a mean spirited note. If Chuck had swallowed his malice for his own brother, Jimmy would have been a perfectly fine elder lawyer with a corner window office.
12:47 Honestly, "Nippy" felt self-contained in terms of it's story. Yeah Gene mentioned Walter White that one scene, but overall this was a fun episode on it's one. And had a somber conclusion that leaves it open-ended as to what is left for the show going forward.
It's the final three episodes following "Nippy" that REQUIRE your knowledge of Breaking Bad to know what's going on.
Even then, they give you a decent impression of what went down. Saul met two amateur Meth dealers, decided he could make some money off of them and offered his services, and it eventually blew up in his face when two DEA agents got murdered, so he was forced to go on the run. You don’t even need the full details because this is just the latest in a long of miscalculated schemes, can we even be surprised that it all went wrong yet again?
I don't really think they REQUIRE you to have watched BB. Its clear that Jimmy got hung up in some Drug Cartell stuff and a lot of people got hurt and die. Its not really important for tge story what exactly happened.
@@TheSorrel Yea, the writers made it clear that they wanted this show to stand on its own, without any required viewing of BB.
@@Robloxman226 So how would you explain Walt and Jesse for people who never seen Breaking Bad?
@@TheDatabaseNetwork they're iconic pop culture icons. Everyone recognizes them, and also that Saul as a character was established alongside them. Might not get the finer details, and I do think watching Breaking Bad first is best, but I don't think it's required
-I had bad opinion about BCS
-That was not even a crime
-It was
I kinda think Felina is better than Ozymandias. But I've always really loved satisfying payoffs and conclusions.
First off, I’m glad you mentioned Peter Gould. But Peter Gould deserves more praise over Vince in this video. Peter had more to do with this show than Vince did.
I’m so glad you came around. This was the best television show I’ve ever seen. One of the only modern Shakespearian tragedies I can think of.
These characters have been with me for 7 years, and now they’re gone. This is the first time I’ve ever watched a show’s every new episode the day it came out.
This ending will stick with me for a long time. I’m so happy I got to experience this story as it went.
I still stand by my opinion that Better Call Saul is the superior show, and I’m glad you can now understand why people can have this opinion.
Schaffrillas has redeemed himself.
Did you guys know that it’s finally here?
@@LeoGaming55 ok
Ah yes, it definitely is here
Yooo it's finally here
Not completely…
He still needs a few original ideas that hasn’t been done or talked about yet and then he would completely earn my trust for a good channel.
Ahh, the redemption arc
I had the exact same reaction to Saul/Jimmy’s character arc. That’s brilliant writing if you can make the funny lawyer man into one of the saddest, most tragic characters who’s personal tragedy arguably even outshines Walter’s. And it also retroactively frames his presence in BB a lot differently and adds more depth to it.
the final scene with gus just broke my heart. the way it changed my view of the character from a monstrous sociopathic drug lord to a emotionally dead tragic man who was forced to use his genius for evil by exterior circumstances. hes one of the only characters who is not self destructive like saul or walt. imo hes the most tragic brba or bcs character just from that one scene.
hmm i respectfully disagree, i think that scene emphasized gus’ self destructiveness even more. he could have chosen a life where he could find new love, a new life. los pollos hermanos was already such a popular food chain. he could have made a good life and good money off that, he could have kept talking with the waiter he was into. But instead he literally walked away to chase revenge down, which got him crossing paths with walter white, leading to his demise. his destruction came in the form of walter white but it was still self-made and one that was a long time coming, all because of his hatred toward the salamancas
@@babywasabi i think that this scene shows that yes he could've had a great life and a part of him wants that but the bigger part of him is dead inside, a walking corpse that knows that it's impossible for him to fully recover from his trauma so he uses his hatred and genius to get revenge. So yes gus is self destructive from the perspective of people like us and our conventions of success but from his point of view that won't bring him happiness and nothing will so he wants to hurt those people back
@@kieranfarrell1656Can y'all explain what you're talking about? I watched BCS and BB but I'm lost.
i personally don't think chuck is a bad person, only flawed, just as flawed as jimmy. the two's actions and sabotages to each other are pretty similar, once you look at it again. chuck is dismissive of jimmy becoming a lawyer, and activly sabotages him, but jimmy dismisses chucks mental state getting better, and activly sabotages it, even to the point where chuck commits suicide. if either of the mcgill brothers were more honest with each other, or themselves for that matter, the story would have gone a different way
And really was Chuck ever wrong? Yea he was a self righteous lil prick about it all. But Jimmy never could stop himself. Jimmy did hurt everyone around him. If Jimmy had never become a lawyer, ultimately many people would still be alive. If Chuck had been more honest about these fears instead of lying and all the deceit, maybe he could have stopped his brother from that terrible path.
@@awkwardcupcake3395 Chuck set Jimmy on that terrible path. "You can't stop hurting people so stop having remorse, embrace that nature, frankly I'd have more respect for you if you did" are among the last words Chuck ever told Jimmy.
Slipping Jimmy is Jimmy's creation, Saul is Chuck's creation.
Shoutout to introspection and not being a stubborn, defensive poopy head! Glad you enjoyed it, it’s my favorite show
"And he gets to have a Surfshark sponsorship? What a sick joke! I should have cancelled him when I had the chance! And you, you have to cancel him, you-"
Fun Fact: in order to make Howards death seem extra impactful he made Tony Dalton ACTUALLY kill Patrick Fabian and to top it all off he didn't even tell the cast the gun was loaded. Bravo Vince.
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Patrick's sacrifice was not in vain. The scene was good.
are you saying that a man just happens to upload a video that saying the show was not that great, no he orchestrated it! SCHAFF
Couldn’t be our precious Schaff!
Slight correction: Kim and Jimmy pulled all all the scams on Howard in order to accelerate the Sandpiper settlement. Getting off in it was just a bonus
those 3 last episodes, i cried for 3 hours straight! the most heartbreaking to me was kim, she was a brilliant woman, and was reduced into a mediocre unhappy one, i still am devastaded. I love jimmy, but i feel disgust over Saul and Gene, what he becomes is a monster, and its beautiful. The ending was bittersweet but it felt right, everything felt into place, and was corrected.
What gets me is that this show was written by a whole team of writers, and those writers didn't always end up physically writing the script. It's absolutely mind boggling to me that such a masterpiece of cinema could be a wholly collaborative project. Shout out to Vince and Schnauz, but everyone else in the crew!
This show is something special
It’s a masterpiece
something stupid 😉
@@Pacmanfan-po9rn and something unforgivable
actually shows so much maturity for you to change your mindset and really appreciate the show. you have such a great mind for television and film in general. Love you schaff ❤️
Great 4 Bots I am gonna report them, but they keep spreading like a virus
Just rewatched Saul’s appearance in ‘Granite State’ in which he encourages Walt to give up and face the music- I love that Jimmy ended up taking his own advice
You dislike a show
It's All Goodman
You dislike Better Call Saul
I'm gonna Break your Back
Truly one of the best redemption arcs I've ever seen. Better call saul was good too
Having the Squarspace ad in Saul's glasses is probably the best tie into a sponsor and still fit the material I have ever seen. Bravo Schaf.
You should change the title of a video to "How I was clowned on Twitter so needed to change opinion".
Comic relief character to tragic protagonist.
"If you can do comedy, you can do drama."