Caltrain: Day Time Full Speed Electric Train Tests
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- On March 9th, 2024, Caltrain performed daytime speed tests from Redwood City to San Jose at 79 mph, the maximum authorized speed for trains. These trains have been tested at 120 mph at the Transportation Technology Center test track in Pueblo, Colorado.
Link to Pueblo video: • Caltrain Electrificati...
Learn more at caltrain.com/electrification.
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So glad to see another state benefitting from the efficiency of electric trains, and kudos on these drone shots. Those trains look sleek from the air.
Can't beelive they aren't running at 200km/h (125mph) like in Europe...
@@ncard00this is a regional train which has a lot of stations so they wouldn’t benefit from the train running at 125mph.
@@Ghosesen They do intend to up the top speeds from 79mph to 110mph eventually. With the acceleration of these electric trainsets, it's still possible to reach those speeds for a long enough period of time. Especially with express services skipping stations
The thing holding this back is FRA regulations preventing a higher speed without either grade separations or upgraded crossings at all current at-grade crossings on the corridor, so that's something to be addressed for later
@@dragoxphere3341 It's so amazing. I remember when they first announced the electrification, then the trainsets. It's so cool to see all this come to fruition.
@@ncard00 oh my god, shut up.
Please Caltrain give us a cabview ride along, preferably along the entire electrification route from your brand new Stradlers in 4K. Hope I’m not asking for too much. 😊
Lol @ "stradlers."
I don't know why, but I am very fond of the appearance of Caltrain's EMUs.
They have a pleasing shape and design, and the paint scheme brings it out nicely.
They’re made by Stadler, a train manufacturer from Switzerland 🇨🇭 Their designs and reliability are amazing 🤩
@@expojam1473They're quality trains, but to be honest, I think their standard designs are becoming a bit bland. I think the round body of a Talent 3 is nicer, for example.
But anyway, I like the design of the Caltrain EMU with this paint scheme.
@@marco23p In my opinion, the paint scheme of the old ones (rather, the raw steel) looked better
They are gorgeous trains.
Watching from the east coast, and it's great to see more regions of the US finally benefit from the electric trains we take for granted. I'm actually a bit jealous of those nice Stadler trains, too.
So am I. We need some of these for NJ Transit, MARC (Penn Line), etc.
Watching from the Boston area, and I wish we had any electric Commuter Rail trains here. The Northeast Corridor line to Providence (and thence to New Haven, New York, and points beyond) is electrified, but the MBTA refuses to use the electrification, and uses diesel locomotives instead, refusing to get even dual-mode locomotives (like the ALP-45DP units that New Jersey Transit has). The MBTA's own Fiscal Control Board has said that the MBTA needs to electrify its Commuter Rail, but the MBTA is REAL GOOD at coming up with excuses why things cannot be done, despite the fact that they have been done for a long time in, for instance, New Jersey. And then they come up with idiotic proposals like battery multiple unit trains for the Fairmount Line . . . .
You have nice Kawasakis
I was just in Switzerland and traveled on one of these nice KISSes. Great trains
I'm admittedly far from living in California, but it's nice to see a train line in the U.S. use a modern fleet of electric trains.
This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
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Wasn’t sure how I’d feel about the European style trains, but these are AWESOME
Cannot wait to see California High Speed trains running this route. It would be nice to have more trains like this all over the U.S. What a beautiful train.
Agreed!! 💚
lol you’re gonna have to wait at least 10 years for that
@@JohnNackyou can put HSR on a normal linę, but don't expect too much on this one… no sidings and countless level crossings means 100-125mph, not more.
@@LMB222 The plan is for CA HSR to run on the Caltrain corridor, they helped fund the electrification project
Cal HSR is a huge waste of money, IMO. I'd be surprised if it ever runs on this line.
This is the content I've been waiting decades for
What content? It's just pics of a running train, no facts, figures, time estimates...
Sometimes, not very often, we do the right thing.
Yes and no. Maybe BART should have been built on this right-of-way. But of course, peninsula residents don't want the greasy East Bay-ers (like me) to have such easy access to their communities.
@@jre617 Wait a minute. You are proposing having ONE system with unified equipment and standards that would simplify operations and maintenance AND result in economies of scale? Are you intentionally trying to get yourself into a straight jacket and locked in a rubber room?
LFG
Don't forget transit oriented development and prioritizing connections to buses and bikes over pavement hungry cars!
See don't get me wrong, I love our silver tin can train liveries but this new livery by Caltrain just feels so modern, even futuristic perhaps! Wish we embraced some more color when it comes to our train designs!.
I was wondering why those looked like Switzerland's SBB S Bahn trains. I had no idea y'all were getting Stadler KISS units. Rare to see them used by anyone outside of Switzerland or Germany.
There are some in service, Hungary and Serbia. There is a Russian gauge variant in service in Russia, Azerbaijan and Georgia. Sweden and Austria ordered a high speed variant (KISS 200).
Wish you all the best! Finally a modern project in the US.
The mandatory bell on this train, american trains in general, is hilarious 🤣😂🤣
there are only bells because of at-grade crossings
@@ianhomerpura8937 And while entering and leaving a station which would me a lot personally
more denisity around stations!
Hear hear
Or just a McDonald's or two will do lol.
@@leonmat26 Or a smoothie shop for goodness sakes.
I always love Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
When will 110 mph service begin on Caltrain?
2077, Night City)
They start in september 2024 with those electric trains. SJ to SF express line will be under 1 hour and local service 75 minutes instead of 100 minutes (source online community meeting on youtube)
That train horn sounds like the NJT Riverline!
That’s probably because they’re built by the same company! Stadler built the Riverline trains back in the early 2000s and the new Caltrain EMUs just a few years ago, but I guess they’re still using the same (admittedly very European-sounding) horn.
US railroads please take notes, this is how it’s done.
i salute Caltrain for this good work, 80mph is how suburban or metro services are done. but its hardly an example for regional trains, keep going.
A thing of beauty
NJ transit and MBTA need to take notes. Like it or not, this is the future of commuter rail.
Despite being a diesel lover, and F40 lover, I have to say, these EMU look good. I am looking forward to ride on them.
Well, if I’m not mistaken, there will still be some diesel trains being used by Caltrain for Gilroy services!
@@aaronmiller5012 Yeah, early time they said service between San Jose and Gilroy will be MP36 and Bombardier Bi-level. So, they gonna get rid of F40s and galleries. But actually I like F40 and gallery more.
Cool. Now get rid of the NIMBYs that refuse to let that suburb get developed.
Happy for Caltrain finally getting proper trains lol
when will the line be upgraded for 110 mph?
once all crossings are made quad gated
@@lalakersprodidn’t know they planned on that, cool!
@@jonfalkenburg1404It’s not necessarily Caltrain, more is it the California High Speed Rail Authority’s plan as they plan to have trains run on this corridor.
This. Not hydrogen. This.
Sure. Who says hydrogen, trump? 😜
@@LMB222Has Donald Trump said anything about hydrogen to begin with?
Looking forward to these getting a full deployment.
Would be interesting to know the sound decibel difference between the new electric trains and the archaic diesel clunkers.
This footage is great. Looks to be heavily inspired by The Roaming Rail Fan’s work on Brightline’s testing
The reduction in noise pollution (along with the actual particulate reduction) will be well-received by everyone close to the route
I absolutely cannot wait for these babies to enter revenue service! This is truly the biggest thing to happen to passenger rail in the US in decades, and it's right here in the Bay Area. And speaking of passenger rail, I hope that the service increases *do* materialize so we can start calling it passenger rail and not merely a commuter train, a term that's as outdated as the diesel behemoths these beauties will replace.
If I’m not mistaken, Caltrain will still have some diesels for their services to Gilroy!!!
The Tampa Bay area as a whole needs something like this, it is impossible to safely drive from st pete to tampa or sarasota to tampa.
At last! People in the Bay Area got something that matches their technological status
Nice
But how many trainsets are currently ready for service?
When will regular service begin?
What is the estimated timeframe for the entire fleet to be replaced?
How many trainsets will there be and are they all the same length?
Does the catenary extend south of SJ?
Will there be any attempt to increase train speeds?
And other questions.
They start in september 2024 with the electric trains for regular service. SJ to SF express line will be under 1 hour and local service 75 minutes instead of 100 minutes (source online community meeting on youtube)
1. There are 38 trainsets planned to be built, with 5 (last i checked, like 2 months ago) currently on CalTrain property
2. September 2024 at best
3. Service from SF to SJ will be entirely electric, with SJ to Gilroy still using (newer) diesel trains until CA High Speed Rail makes it to SF
4. Technically it does go behind SJ, with Tamien station on the near south side being the terminus of electrification
5. Yes, 110 MPH is the target
@@REDACTED4503 Interesting, thank you.
Nice! Now California needs to electrify Capitol Corridor and Metrolink!
Edit: and, of course, get high speed rail done sooner rather than later!
Next increase line speeds and install ETCS
Yes and yeah of course California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
What are the Frequencies of these trains gonna be?
IS THIS AT CALIFORNIA AVE STATION
Yes it is!
@@caltrain thanks anyways when are you gonna do a test between San Jose TO San Francisco?
crank it up to 150mph!
Its a commuter trail witj many stations, 150 mph is too fast
@@vedaantvyas466 It's still useful for intercity trains like CAHASR. Of course, the main challenge is to remove all the level crossings alongside the occasional curves which have to be smoothened out and placing additional tracks for more capacity.
What area is that? Looks fairly green.
This is the California Ave Station.
Palo Alto, near Stanford University
Was this train going 79 mph
How come the first and last trains were running left-hand, but the others were running right-hand?
They are just different tests arranged differently I suppose.
Def mad I moved from SF before I could ride these.....
Same :(
But I'll most likely get to ride these trains when I visit family in the area for Thanksgiving and Christmas!
when will you start construction to connect 4th and king with salesforce, building just sitting there
Good point.
What about the level crossings?
What about them?
@@vedaantvyas466 removing level crossings will allow trains to go at much faster speeds
What is the max speed - 79 mph?
When they start in september 2024 SJ to SF express line will be under 1 hour and local service 75 minutes instead of 100 minutes (source online community meeting on youtube)
That’s the track max speed.
I thought the max speed would be 120mph then and not 79mph
😅🎉m
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Может когда нибудь OHLE будет и в Лос Анджелесе
European trains in America is a great idea
Metrolink needs to get off pushing hydrogen
Metrolink has bought into hydrogen? The horror!
It needs a K5LA horn.
Anyone know why the bell is needed?
A US safety thing that other countries manage without it.
The bell is used whenever the train is near a place congested places, like a station or roadway workers, when slowing down, starting and before crossings near around people - so generally when ever someone or something might pop up on the tracks. in some cases (like crossings) they will also sound the horn.
In other places the engineer will maybe sound a short horn sound before a level crossing.
The yanks get confused by trains and don't really know how to deal with them, so they require extra measures. There're some new trains in Florida; at level crossings cars and pedestrians run into them like flies banging against a window. Something's not right with people's brain functions; could be the PFAS "forever-chemicals" seeping into the water table, I don't know.
America, baby 👉😎👉🇺🇲
@@alexverdigris9939It's OK, they're self-selecting themselves off the gene pool.
It would be nice if you guys didn’t scrap the 2 aem 7’s that Amtrak gave you
Those are meant exclusively for testing
Why would they scrap them? They're right there and they're only using it for testing it
What’s gonna happen to the F40s and the MP36
f40’s and gallery cars are probably being scrapped or sold and the mp36’s and the mpi f40’s and bombardier cars are staying for another few years
Edit: the MPI F40’s might be going aswell since i saw a post of Caltrain saying to someone that “All The F40’s” are going to be sold or scrapped but 919 is most likely getting scrapped due to the damage
WHERE IS THE F40 AND GALLER CARS GOING TO BE SOLD OUT
Locomotives 900-919 will as well as the gallery cars from the 1980s will be retired. Caltrain will likely keep locomotives 920-928, the bombardier cars and the gallery cars from 2000, although they may only need to keep three diesel locomotives for Gilroy service - Caltrain should sell their MP36s to Metra (they REALLY need to replace their F40s which are super old and outdated).
@@coleallen3895 what engines are they going to use for Gilroy service?
@@coleallen3895 I wonder when Stadler BEMUs will be ready
Those tracks still need work to achieve higher speed than what the diesels already do
Maximum allowable speed isn't the only thing setting station to station times. Accellerating faster with more powered wheels also reduces trip times, and these EMUs will allow a faster, more frequent schedule.
Offcourse design from Europe....
Name a North American rolling stock manufacturer that’s designing something comparable.
Does anybody know what kind of safety systems Caltrain has installed? I can’t seem to find it online
Would have preferred electric seimens chargers with ventures instead
change the bell and horn to an american one and its perfect
Probably can’t, both no room and probably can’t change it from the factory. I doubt we’ll hear either much once they get quad-gated crossings
Only NA uses bells, so definitely nothing from the European original!
@@jonfalkenburg1404 iirc they're produced in the US itself now and they have an electric horn so it should be quite simple to change the sound
i just wish you would change the bell. It doesnt sound very American.
agreed, sounds like a railroad crossing bell
Caltrains ridership is STILL 1/3rd of what it was pre-COVID and every indication it's never going to get back to even half so makes one wander what Caltrain plans to do with empty new EMUs.
The current Caltrain trains are only capable of commuter service, and not many tech workers are commuting to work any more. But the new EMUs are capable of subway-level service that is frequent enough and fast enough to compete with driving for everyday transportation needs in the Peninsula. So the new EMUs should unlock an entirely new market of riders for Caltrain.
@@my2iu This! Starting in September this year, 2024, Caltrain will run at 15 minute frequencies! It will basically become just like another BART line! The Bay is getting its second S-bahn with this Caltrain upgrade! Exiting times for Bay transit.
@@TohaBgood2 Well, sort of. They will run 4 trains per hour (not necessarily every 15 minutes) during PEAK PERIODS ONLY (7 AM to 10 AM and 3 PM to 7 PM, weekdays only) and run 2 trains per hour (again, not necessarily every 30 minutes) the rest of the day and on weekends. And as for the parent comment, i believe CalTrain set a new ridership record, so that is false.
Where are the 150 years of good people they are not on board yet why Sears roebuck is why 😷
How behind is this project? Typical California. Regardless I’m happy to see full speed testing is happening!
That’s it? You call that full speed? That’s rather slow to me, almost a waste of money to build and buy stuff that isn’t going to be faster or more frequent than current schedule.
Still a fair bit faster than being stuck in a traffic jam in rush hour...
Lol, it will literally be both faster and more frequent than the current schedule. Caltrain will run at 15 minute frequencies like BART starting in September and the trip will actually be substantially faster due to the better acceleration of the EMU trains.
You're wrong on two out of two of your points somehow 😁😁😁
I hope you know that the speed of the train is not the issue here but the maximum allowed speed of the track itself.
Rails need to be layed down and build different for higher speeds
@@evo3s75 Though AFAIK, this one is mostly a legal issue since not all crossings are upgraded to class 6 standards yet.
The tracks are fine, its the crossings that need to be upgraded@@evo3s75