I consider myself somewhat of a fan collector, but like you, I collect them, AND use them. I keep a Manning Bowman model 51 by my bedroom window, and almost every single night it gets run all night and turned off in the morning. I old it every couple months, as it starts chirping if I don't.
In general yes , i am sure there are a few but large fans on a stand in the UK are much more common , i always thing its because we have less sash windows , and the original idea was a box fan could sit on the sash windows to pull in cool air .
Very nice box fan! you are right on the motor brace thing. most box fans from the 1950's had the single brace design. and during that time they had not really got the basic design right yet. so there is all kinds of different style of braces from that era. Lakewood had an "X" style brace that they used on the deluxe model box fans. Sears Kenmore fans used the same style as this one. was not really until the 1960's when the two vertical brace became a standard.
All of these fans use a type of motor called a shaded pole induction motor. If you've noticed when you had one apart, the motor has a wound coil usually off to one side on simpler motors, and off not exactly on the opposite side, there's a large thick copper winding around the metal plates, this is the shade. In reversing motors, they will be made of wound wire rather than one big thick wire, and there will be two shades, and depending on which one you energize, this will decide which way the motor initially starts turning. The shade is a startup winding, and although it is always energized, it only has an effect on startup, which is why reversing it while turned on and running does nothing. With neither shade activated, the motor will not start turning at all. I hope that made sense.
most of these motors are the shaded pole type motor meaning in today's standards are very innefficient. as some people like me replace these motor with more efficient Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) motor as they use a run capacitor which makes them more efficient. as i have a vintage Vornado b38c-1 the original shaded pole motor the windings burnt out so i replaced it with a FASCO 9721 motor and it starts that heavy steeply pitched blade better. as FASCO today is owned by Regal-Beloit. which owns other motor makers and rebranded the GE motors to Genteq. is discontinuing the motors made by Century, formally A.O.Smith, Magnetek, and Universal Electric Co. US motors formallly Emerson but still a Division of Emerson electric co as its owned by Nidec Motor Corporation. as some of these vintage fans you can replace the motor easilly but if its a single speed motor you can use a variable speed Triac motor control with them. Some PSC motors are universal type with studs on both ends and have extra wires to change the rotation. as you can set it up to run clockwise or counterclockwise rotation. if you can wire a reversing switch to it to make the motor reversable but the power has to be off and completely stopped before changing rotation on them so it works correctly.
For a guy who doesn't really collect them,you have a really nice collection of them, but I know what you mean, and I agree . Older is better if you maintain it right, nothing is made to last anymore.....
EvanPlayzGames my samsung is 9 years old, your point being? I am typing this looking at a samsung monitor which is 10 years old on a PC with 2 year old parts. None of which are broken. Now lets compare this to a 30 year old car oops it's just a pile of rust. I don't know what the fuck a funai or proscan is. And products have been progressively built better and better with almost no exceptions.
Vintage fans I think look far better than new stuff, though I do think those box fans are quite ugly, but just like a woman, looks aren't always what matters! The Victor is my favorite fan that you have. I think it is the best looking fan of the bunch, next to the one on your fridge there. The reverse feature on that Fasco is nice, I would like that a lot, then I don't have to turn the damn fan around in the window.
I have a late 1920s or 30s small form factor GE oscillating fan that I still use on a near-daily basis. It's in pretty good shape and still works great, although I've had the occasional problem such as the blades coming loose. Built very solidly, not like the cheap plastic crap you can get today and it looks infinitely nicer as well painted in the iconic GE green (the original paint I think, not perfect but not bad for the age).
"Im not a fab collector" proceeds to show off 200 fans :) Wish I had one of those old metal oscillating ones. Had one from the 50s when I was a kid in the 70s..never worked but I loved it.
I just recently got a 1960s (not sure of exact year) Lakewood very similar to yours, except mine is labeled “Kool Breeze”, is two speed, has a knob instead of push buttons, and a metal handle. I absolutely love it. It moves a ton of air and makes a wonderful sound for sleeping to. What color would you say yours is exactly? Little hard to tell for sure in the video. Is it more of a green or blue? Mine is a very light blue with white grills (instead of chrome like yours).
I consider myself somewhat of a fan collector, but like you, I collect them, AND use them. I keep a Manning Bowman model 51 by my bedroom window, and almost every single night it gets run all night and turned off in the morning. I old it every couple months, as it starts chirping if I don't.
I'm a fan of this fan, it really blows you away. :)
Every time i watch a box fan video , i wish we had them in the UK and i could find a vintage one :(.
so it is true that out there you guys lack box fans
In general yes , i am sure there are a few but large fans on a stand in the UK are much more common , i always thing its because we have less sash windows , and the original idea was a box fan could sit on the sash windows to pull in cool air .
Very nice box fan! you are right on the motor brace thing. most box fans from the 1950's had the single brace design. and during that time they had not really got the basic design right yet. so there is all kinds of different style of braces from that era. Lakewood had an "X" style brace that they used on the deluxe model box fans. Sears Kenmore fans used the same style as this one. was not really until the 1960's when the two vertical brace became a standard.
All of these fans use a type of motor called a shaded pole induction motor. If you've noticed when you had one apart, the motor has a wound coil usually off to one side on simpler motors, and off not exactly on the opposite side, there's a large thick copper winding around the metal plates, this is the shade. In reversing motors, they will be made of wound wire rather than one big thick wire, and there will be two shades, and depending on which one you energize, this will decide which way the motor initially starts turning. The shade is a startup winding, and although it is always energized, it only has an effect on startup, which is why reversing it while turned on and running does nothing. With neither shade activated, the motor will not start turning at all. I hope that made sense.
Thank you for this detailed explanation! It now makes perfect sense to me!
most of these motors are the shaded pole type motor meaning in today's standards are very innefficient. as some people like me replace these motor with more efficient Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) motor as they use a run capacitor which makes them more efficient. as i have a vintage Vornado b38c-1 the original shaded pole motor the windings burnt out so i replaced it with a FASCO 9721 motor and it starts that heavy steeply pitched blade better. as FASCO today is owned by Regal-Beloit. which owns other motor makers and rebranded the GE motors to Genteq. is discontinuing the motors made by Century, formally A.O.Smith, Magnetek, and Universal Electric Co. US motors formallly Emerson but still a Division of Emerson electric co as its owned by Nidec Motor Corporation. as some of these vintage fans you can replace the motor easilly but if its a single speed motor you can use a variable speed Triac motor control with them. Some PSC motors are universal type with studs on both ends and have extra wires to change the rotation. as you can set it up to run clockwise or counterclockwise rotation. if you can wire a reversing switch to it to make the motor reversable but the power has to be off and completely stopped before changing rotation on them so it works correctly.
For a guy who doesn't really collect them,you have a really nice collection of them, but I know what you mean, and I agree . Older is better if you maintain it right, nothing is made to last anymore.....
bullshit
Toxy it's true, today's stuff is really cheaply made
EvanPlayzGames
bullshit.
***** okay, then how long has your flatscreen tv lasted? my samsung lasted 2 years. lemme guess you own a funai right? a proscan?
EvanPlayzGames
my samsung is 9 years old, your point being? I am typing this looking at a samsung monitor which is 10 years old on a PC with 2 year old parts. None of which are broken.
Now lets compare this to a 30 year old car oops it's just a pile of rust.
I don't know what the fuck a funai or proscan is.
And products have been progressively built better and better with almost no exceptions.
Vintage fans I think look far better than new stuff, though I do think those box fans are quite ugly, but just like a woman, looks aren't always what matters! The Victor is my favorite fan that you have. I think it is the best looking fan of the bunch, next to the one on your fridge there. The reverse feature on that Fasco is nice, I would like that a lot, then I don't have to turn the damn fan around in the window.
I have a late 1920s or 30s small form factor GE oscillating fan that I still use on a near-daily basis. It's in pretty good shape and still works great, although I've had the occasional problem such as the blades coming loose. Built very solidly, not like the cheap plastic crap you can get today and it looks infinitely nicer as well painted in the iconic GE green (the original paint I think, not perfect but not bad for the age).
I found a nice solution for some rust, take a ball of tin foil and dip it in warm water and it helps remove some of the rust
"Im not a fab collector" proceeds to show off 200 fans :) Wish I had one of those old metal oscillating ones. Had one from the 50s when I was a kid in the 70s..never worked but I loved it.
nice fan man and i learned a new trick for the handles on some of mine
I see a MacBook I don't remember seeing in a video, there by the wall on the counter. Looks like a non-unibody white one.
the Modern 20" Fasco box fan, bought at Walmart for $16.88; is a Plastic Grill on a Metal frame.
And will only last 10 years if you are lucky.......
Not even 10 years. I replace my box fan every 2 years, and that's with minimal use...
Ummm your thinking of lasko not fasco Walmart sells lasko
FASCo moved their fan operations to Charlotte. So yes, North Carolina.
I just recently got a 1960s (not sure of exact year) Lakewood very similar to yours, except mine is labeled “Kool Breeze”, is two speed, has a knob instead of push buttons, and a metal handle. I absolutely love it. It moves a ton of air and makes a wonderful sound for sleeping to. What color would you say yours is exactly? Little hard to tell for sure in the video. Is it more of a green or blue? Mine is a very light blue with white grills (instead of chrome like yours).
Hey, that fan is from my home!
i have that same cheeseburger money bank :o
I was wondering too how to reverse an AC motor.
On low it dounds like an idling diesel