No 🧢 I waited 3 hours in a emergency room with like 3 other people only 1 of the lady's were literally crying in pain, some homeless guy then walked up to her and said throw yourself on the floor they'll help you immediately never had so much respect for a junkie Ps she did it and got immediate help
I got into the ER in Abbotsford at 9 pm last June after a major shoulder injury, immediately got x-rays because they suspected head or neck trauma, but after they realized that my head was fine, I was triaged to the very bottom and waited until about 5 am. I was sobbing on the floor because the seats hurt too much to sit in but wasn't even offered a sling until I begged for one and when I finally saw the doc he said it'd only take two weeks to heal. Since I wasn't able to move my shoulder to the right position for the x-rays, the x-rays ended up being very misguiding and the injury was actually bad enough that I'm still not clear for sports yet 8 months later :( biggest thing I learned is you gotta advocate for yourself like crazy in this country!
I'm a nurse in Canada and u wait so long in the room to see the doctor even I have gone snooping through the drawers and cupboards....my kids get so embarrassed 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😂😂😂
@Blackout____ I don’t do you need to live in America to speak on issues to do with it? I’m not Canadian either. I’m British and I’ve had to wait 2 days before but I’d rather do that than go into medical debt.
@@Demonoicgamer666 What about insurance/coverage. Before I turned 21 I was covered by my parents dental plan they had through their work. After your appointment they’d just take your information and send the bill to the insurance company.
And I would gladly pay $50 to cut that wait in half. See what I'm getting at? Healthcare doesn't have to cost exuberant amounts of money nor does it have to take ages. I have a feeling we're getting screwed.
@@anonymouse527 $50 is a lot for a hour and I reckon you’re paying $100 on the low end 500 on the high end just to see them for half hour is $250 for 30 minutes visit worth it sure it’s your health but most people can’t afford that.
@@jeff3388 yeah spending money on something that most of the time you don’t need you still have to pay at least 10% so let’s say your bill is $5000 you’re paying $500 that in the moment may not look like a big deal but when you realise you still got bills to pay rent $600 electric, water and gas add up to $450 then you got to buy food to begging of the month and you have already spent $1550 out of $2000 a month $300 for food depending on if you go out leaving you with $150 to enjoy and you then have car insurance and fuel which leaves you with at best $50 for yourself although you may need to pay your healthcare coverage which puts you in debt for $50. $500 may not look like you’ll need but just wait.
Thank you for saying that. People just forget that part and just start talking down on socialized healthcare. In America your a customer not a patient in hospitals. I had to wait 4-5 hours to see a doctor and i had to wait in the hallway on a bed (never got a room) in under extreme chest pain in America. And let’s just say they didn’t do jack sht about the pain and slapped 27k. It took a year to fix the bill with my insurance company because they really don’t want to help people.
@@shronkthestupendous4737 if you're a Canadian then you realize emergencies are prioritized and you don't have to pay out of pocket for the procedures.
@@fatkid420 see that's just criminal in my opinion. Sure healthcare here is expensive (I wouldn't know all my visits are free including any/all dental work) but I'd rather pay a bit more to be seen as soon as my butt cheek hits the chair.
Socialized healthcare. Ever been to Cuba? Cuba is a socialist/communist system. In Cuba you have to pay before you get services, anywhere, because at the end of the day they get paid either way. The government pays their salaries, so they can screw around all they want. There is no big boss to supervise them. In other words, they'll make you wait. In a private system doctors need to have good time management skills, like any other private sector job, or else they'd lose their job. Time is $$$. If I didn't have good time management on my job I'd be fired on the spot! Same principle with doctors within private healthcare. Clinic and hospitals don't like low ratings on Google, etc. They are constantly pushing their employees to give good services and move their butts! That's why it works way better. The doctors aren't running the show. Their bosses/administration are. And they're not being paid by the State but rather insurance companies who are constantly down their backs. Insurance companies don't like doctors who waste their money. That's why services are better and they don't do half A jobs.
@@sebastienbolduc5654 1) why couldn't we just implement some form of auditing process to make the docs are meeting quotas? 2) it's not slow here in Canada because the doctors are paid salary which makes them lazy (which often isn't even true, most are paid per patient), it's mainly slow here in Canada bc we have a huge shortage of doctors because many of them go to med school here where it's cheaper and then move to the states where they can make so much more by charging insane amounts and Canada doesn't recognize a medical doctorate degree from a large portion of the world so we can't even promote immigration to help
I live in Canada. I went to the ER with a compression fracture of two vertebrae in my spine after a serious accident. I couldn't take the pressure on my spine sitting down so I literally laid on the floor in the ER waiting room for 12 hours before I got taken for X-Rays and saw a doctor. After seeing my X-Rays, the doctor immediately gave a significant dose of narcotic pain killers. I understand how so many people die in the waiting rooms in Canada. Those were some of the hardest 12 hours of my life.
I'm so sorry and I believe you because my husband God bless his soul was sick of lung cancer in 2021 and we waited seven hours straight at Victoria Hospital emergency room in London and he fainted then they felt sorry and took him in. Their reason for the delay all the beds were occupied by the junkies and have no more room to take even the seriously ill people. They need to have special hospitals for the junkies because they're getting more from all over Ontario. They call London the Medical City yeah right lol
That seems that it could be fixed. Do you know how much that would cost you in the US? With health insurance or the tens of thousands that it would cost without it?
in socialism people who need health come first, in capitalism people who have money come first. in socialism the homeless person who has had an accident takes precedence over the millionaire because he needs help more than the millionaire who just has a flu. but in capitalism the millionaire comes first, he doesn't need to queue because he can pay the hospital bills, and he doesn't need to queue with the homeless. because the homeless person never came to the hospital in the first place in capitalism. because it's useless to come only to be rejected because you can't pay the health costs.
@@Cyancloud13cant see the comment you are replying to. How does that work? Sorry thats unrelated to your comment but your comment is also unrelated from where im sitting 😂
Living in Canada all my life, and in multiple cities across the country….the sweet spot is to have Canada’s healthcare system in a mid-size town with no more than 500-800K in population. Once you hit something like 1mil, or the GTA (multi-city or tri-city), the wait times and service gets worse.
Yup! Worked in one in Quebec City and at 800K population, the wait time was about 1/3 or less of what it is in Montreal. I also NEVER had to wait for any serious injury, anywhere in the country. My ex had 6 years of cancer treatments, on and off, and there was never any wait either. It's all of the people that show up at the emergency with regular colds, hung nails, wood splinters in the finger, or imagined ailments that NO specialist can ever diagnose that take 3/4 of the system's time and cost. There was a call for a 5$ fee for a visit, to keep the social-contact seekers, and the fakers or hypochondriacs away, but THAT got a bunch of people outraged and calling for the head of the ministry. So it never happened. IF you ask for your priority after triage, and they say 5, GO HOME! unless you are the only one there, if it's 4, you'll wait a LONG while... And remember, any MORE serious case incoming, puts you LOWER in the pile. PS: There IS also a shortage of specialists in some areas. Fields like Dermatology, and other highly paid and in-demand specialties in the USA tend to attract a lot of OUR graduates. Also, NOBODY stops at family medicine anymore. The PAY increase by choosing another branch and putting in a few years of school/training (or more) is just too great. So those two things make it hard for some people to get treatment or even just exams.
@@Metha_59 Okay and? A lot of developed countries were responsible for atrocities. You know why? Because they were capable of it, technologically or otherwise. Go to southeast Asia today and tell me that not one person is willing to pawn off their 14 year old daughter to a sex trafficker for a wad of cash, and tell me that all cops would prevent it over taking a bribe. Go to a random tribe in the Amazon, sub-saharan African, or Papua New Guinea and tell me that none of them practice ritual human sacrifices, believe in child witches, and regularly consume human flesh. Yeah, people everywhere can be backwards. Let’s not ignore that.
I'm from Canada. Our system is not perfect, wait times are long, but I have never paid a single penny my whole life to get medical care. I'll take that any day.
Do you pay taxes? If so, then you have paid for medical care through our high taxes. It just doesn't feel like a giant kick to the nuts or ovaries all at once but a slow depletion more and more out of our pay checks lol
@vickiemazzawi The US would save a ton of money by implementing universal healthcare but the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions. Its disgusting...
@@Toxic_Diamonds But that's only for terminally ill patients though, isn't it? It's not for someone who broke and arm/leg but is perfectly healthy otherwise
The Canadian visit to the hospital made me laugh because it's true I Myself pace around the room touching things when I get tired a lay down take a power nap and wait for the doctor
My Canadian friend has cancer and is getting treated here in the US because she would’ve had to wait 6 months for treatment. And that’s a normal wait time for medical things like that in countries with free healthcare
@@Mster_Jmy mother in the United States had to wait 3 days for an xray for her broken foot, I had to wait a month for a video visit with my doctor, when I scheduled an in person visit for first thing in the morning when the doctor’s office opened I still had to wait a half an hour for the doctor.
I prefer United States healthcare, and I’ll tell you why. My job covers 85% of the total cost. Sometimes I can see the doctor for free and if I go see a specialist I literally pay the price of a movie ticket. The bonus is that I can see the doctor the same day that I start feeling my symptoms. I’ll pay 30 bucks to see the doctor the same day that my tooth starts hurting as opposed to it being free and not being able to go for a month.
@@nurlindafsihotang49 meds vary. I may get it for free or i may pay up to 10 bucks or so…but again, i can see the doctor, and get my meds for free or maybe 10 bucks at max…on the same day i get my symptoms. Ill take that over 100 percent fee but i have to wait until god knows when…probably after im already dead and the infection has spread
If you had universal healthcare instead of paying your medical bills your company could just pay you more money. And employer-paid healthcare is a trap used to control workers. You can't leave a bad job because if you do you no longer have health insurance.
As an American, my last appointment going to the doctor. I waited for 5 hours before they brought me into the office for my examination. I then waited in that same office for 3 hours befor the doctor began the examination.
I wrote the letter to minister of Healthcare in Saskatchewan and changed family doctor. Now we don't have any problem . Healthcare must be available for all Canadians.
@@ulacylon-timetrio9664erm. Oh sure. Heres your 728182737281 T $ for a bandaid..yep..sure enough. And oh, i have to sign 40 hours worth of paperwork for one singular benadryl..yep..wow. sure efficient...
I wish it was that easy to get seeing in the US. I had an appointment set up for 3 months. Told me to be there 15 min before my appointment to fill out the paperwork. Did all that, got weighted, blood pressure checked and told me to wait for my doctor. Took about 2 hours when a nurse came in and saw me in there with a shocked fave and then told me he would notify the doctor. And hour and a half alter the doctor comes in and in 10 minutes with him I got sent out.
In Canada when I had major emergencies, (example colic due to stones in the kidneys and vesicles) a half an hour after my arrival in the emergency room was already being treated. But certainly if the pain is bearable the waiting time can be 4-5h.
and that is to be expected. this is an emergency but not a life threatening issue. you were placed in priority. honestly seems more like an urgent care visit but along as it was addressed that's all that matters.
@@zombiewolf1671 Sure. For average 4+ hours ER wait times & subpar care. Cause it's "free". People dying while "waiting" for a surgery that takes 2-3 years to take place. People dying while waiting for a doc in the emergency rooms. No, thanks. I'd rather pay for quality care.
In Canada you pay for it in taxes, whether you use it or not. The equivalent of every citizen paying $7,000 per year. And it is not health care, it is health rationing.
Yeah, that's also how US insurance works you still pay even if you don't use it. And the average American is paying $13,000 a year in healthcare costs. So we pay more than the Canadians.
I would love to pay *only* $7,000 a year, are you kidding?! My insurance is decent and cheap, and costs $9,600 / year (employer "pays half" instead of paying me, and then the other half I pay out of my paycheck, so it's about $800/month), and then there's the $2,500 deductible before they start paying for any treatments.
When I left one job they offered me COBRA - which "let's you" keep your employer insurance as long as you pay the full cost. It would have been $1,200 a month, or $14,000 a year! That's ¢14,400 that could have gone into my pocket, instead, and then I'd only have to give $7,000 to the state? Sign me TF up!
Pretty certain it's not "free". I'm guessing you're paying insurance. Same as here in Germany. I often hear from uninformed Americans that we have "free health care". It's not true at all. We pay insurance fees and it's quite expensive in fact. Around 15 % of our income.
We do not pay for health care. Ambulance fees apply unless you are on a low income government program. We do not pay for emergency services or surgeries, X Ray's, MRI'S, or any other medical testing. Some prescriptions are government covered or a very small fee is paid. Saskatchewan has had free coverage for many decades.
Canada has really bad Healthcare my mother had cancer and they kept postponing her treatments and now shes dead but they never should have kept pushing back when she had cancer. Wouldnt have a problem paying for treatment at all if she got the treatment right away.
Yeah..it’s crazy how bad health care is right now. They have such a shortage and the people that actually work are over worked. My moms a doctor in Canada and she sees hundreds of patients.. I’m sorry for you loss.
Bro, I live in US by the side of a huge hospital, near Lake Nona(a medical city) there are a max of 5 cars in the entire hospital parking lot. A lot of people here have the mentality "Oh, if it gets worse then I will go." But when it gets worse, it alredy too late. Like most cancer cases, there are a lot of cancer related deaths in US because of the mentality "I will go if it gets worse", and when the person finally goes to the doctor, the cancer already spreaded through the body. Health should be free, it is a human need, a human right!!!!
Well if they give supposedly free “healthcare” people treat it like a fast food joint instead of a doctors office. In the US we respect the medical office supplies and furniture.
In Canada, you have to wait even longer to get a procedure. My surgeon told me I might have to wait over a year to get my nose fixed. I've been waiting almost 2 years to get a colonoscopy.(Funny, colonoscopy doesn't come up in my auto correct.)
A few years ago I was in terrible pain and for the longest time my family and family doctor thought it was just growing pains. Only to discover that I had gallstones and before I could even properly schedule a procedure day I came into the ER with my pain level being at a 9 and I was seen in about 15mins, the ER doctor told me that if I haven’t come in when I had my gallbladder would have burst. I was given morphine, I was scheduled for surgery the next day but due to a emergency C-section it was pushed back another day (apparently it was a beautiful and healthy baby boy) but there was a cancellation the next morning and I was able to get one then.
What a lie. Dual citizen here and uh...the majority of the US (over 80% has employer insurance (similar to Bismarck models in Japan, Germany, France). Public sector programs are indeed funded by tax dollars: Medicaid, State Chip, ACA, Veterans and portions of Medicare. Yes, I'm an advocate of streamlining these and having non profit insurance orgs administer them as done in other countries that use Bismarck models for their public sector. Lost my mom in BC Canada to Cancer last year and the wait times for the diagnostic imaging were horrendous. She was a nurse her entire life who paid her taxes for over 50 years and didn't get to see the Oncologist even once before dying. It was like a 3rd world country. Canada's system is collapsing right now and is so bad its being dragged to the Supreme Court of Canada as they have had 30 years to fix the crisis, yet nothing changes. Public sector needs: patient focused funding instead of block payments, user fees, cut the administrative bloat and move to a Bismarck model with non-profit health insurance orgs. Last - allow the private sector to fully run alongside the public sector. It's the 21st century and Canada is now the last remaining country on planet earth that makes it illegal for its citizens to purchase private health insurance for ALL services covered under Provincial Medicare. Canadian citizens deserve what every other social democracy provides their citizens: A CHOICE.
This is such a well-stated comment. I am very sorry for what happened to your mother. And I agree, the Canadian public health system needs a ton of work. The problem also is: Canadians have such a myopic view about the rest of the world vs. their own country (in many different ways). Many believe Canada's universal health care system works, and vehemently oppose private health care because of what they read on the news in the U.S. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has hinted at introducing some elements of private healthcare to supplement the universal health care system, and as soon as he did people lost their minds. A system that combines both as you said would only help.
Watch when you say 3rd world country 😊 I’m an Indian citizen living in the United States and I promise that the health care in India is a 1000 times better than the US! I have been to the ER, Urgent Care and just the normal docs and everything, I kid you not, everything is better in India! I don’t know what I am doing in the states 😢 💰?
@@amoghtayade481 In the US, the healthcare you receive, depends on which State you reside in. In terms of medical innovation such as breakthrough procedures & lifesaving medication, & research, statistically there is not one country in the world that compares to the U.S. That is not to brag, that is just a statistical fact. The U.S. also collaborates with other countries on research. I understand, now after living here, that the U.S. needs to treat healthcare differently due to its leading position in medical innovation which is derived from a great deal of capital investment. Ironically, other countries with socialized medicine, have no problem using these breakthroughs & innovations but then turn around and criticize the U.S. for not having nationwide Universal Healthcare. It’s like biting off the hand that feeds them.
Is BC’s wait time significantly much longer and has gotten much worse? I’m in Ontario, it doesn’t seem to be thhaaat bad, yes sometimes you have to wait for a long time to see a specialist, or wait in the emergency room for 3-4 hrs if your are not dying in the next 10 min. I heard cancer patients do get good treatment and don’t need to pay nearly as much as in the US. Also I used to live in China, the system there is much much faster then Canada but the quality of service is really bad, it’s like going to a super super busy shopping market, with doctors and nurses shouting at you, being super impatient coz they have to deal with sooo many people at the same time. I much more prefer to see a doctor in Canada.
I feel like it may not be too far apart when you count we have to pay premiums and a deductible before insurance actually kicks in. The main thing we got against themis less wait times and more specialized doctors....and Freedom! lol
@@RaiderNation126 See, as someone who lived in the US for many years, I don't get the "freedom" bit. In the US, I was limited to the doctors included in my insurance plan. In the UK & Spain, I'm limited to the doctors in my neighbourhood. And in any country, if I'm unhappy with the choices and have the money, I can go private. So how is there "more freedom" in the US?
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I feel you but I meant it as a joke lol. In the states when you're just yelling USA or freedom it's. Usually to make fun of our extreme form of nationalism with the pledge of allegiance and all that you know lol.
I didn't mind painfully waiting to be treated in the hospital as a Canadian, rather wait for a few hours then to spend the rest of my life paying off my hospital debt.
Oh and in the US they give you perfunctory medical advice that you could’ve googled and over the counter meds when you go in for an earache 🙄…I had to pressure the doctor last time I went in for this to give me prescription ibuprofen. Luckily my copays are only $15
I walked in to Emergency with what I thought was a heart attack. I mentioned that to the guard who was patrolling the floor. 2 mins later I'm on a gurney with 4-5 people doing things to me. (this happened in Vancouver BC. There were ample people in waiting room - most there as they have no regular GP - so they use the hospitals!
This is a story that happend irl when I was 11 years old and I live in Canada 🇨🇦 … Before: we were playing volleyball on a beach, my brother pushed me into the sand, my hand bent backward and my mom wrapped my hand in a tenser… some time later my grandma invited me to a dance, there was a tea station, I grabbed some and used a napkin so I don’t burn myself by holding the cup, I was using my sprained wrist to support the cup. I then dropped the cup and It spilled all over my sprained hand. I was crying in pain while a kind old man got ice in a cloth and gave it to me, I was rushed to the hospital, while my mom was driving over. It turns out, I had a bad 2nd degree burn which is blisters every where, it was very scary because I almost got a 3rd degree burn which is burning off the skin and leaving the flesh. I stayed in the hospital for the night and I left at noon the next day. My mom kept my hand wrapped for about a month and a little bit. After that, I still have scars from that scarce day. Luckily I didn’t have to wait because I was in the most pain. I didn’t have to pay either because I live in Canada. 🇨🇦❤ P.S. I love Canada 🇨🇦
As an American who now lives in Canada my experience has been exactly the opposite! USA wait wait wait get poor service and become popr paying the bill. Canada get right in, get diagnosed go home with no bill. #HappyInWindsorOntario
I’m Canadian and we went to LA last spring my wife had to be rushed to ER. Long story short we did what we needed to do. Had to leave asap bec. we had our flight back the next day. Our doctor said frankly Canadian health care is better. Yes we didn’t wait that long as in Canadian hospitals. But thats bec. the lines weren’t that long bec. on how expensive healthcare in the US is. I was stressed w/ both my wife’s condition and how much the bill was. Ended up w/ a US$20k bill, where in Canada we would just walk out. Honestly the time for me to pay was as long as the wait time. Good thing insurance covered everything but the billing process was complicated and you had to sign a ton of waivers before and after just so they won’t be liable. In Canada health card and when done you get out.
As a Canadian, I find our system is fine for basic medical care. But if you need a more niche specialist it's really hard to find so a lot of people opt to go to the States and pay out of pocket where a lot of them end up as they get paid better down there.
Atleast in the USA I don’t have to wait months to get screened for cancer only to find out it’s too late. I got health insurance anyway so that mostly covers it.
Literally my neighbour is in stage 4 rn and has 3 kids aged before 8 years old, bc they made her wait 1.5 years to even take her concerns seriously bc they kept waiving her off as being paranoid and having a sore muscle.
Seeing my Family doctor has always been quick provided I show up 15 minutes before the appointment. However going to the hospitals for semi emergency can take hours before you see a doctor. But never have to worry about paying the bill. I also know that private Health care is incredibly costly but fast in Canada.
it's not that bad compared to how many hidden costs we have. like, "employer provided insurance" is basically a more expensive version of Canada's tax, as anyone who's considered taking COBRA after leaving a job can usually attest to.
In the US if I go to a doctor, I wait a few minutes only for the doctor to look me up and down for about 30 seconds and tell me what they think is wrong with me and leaves without listening to my vitals or asking me questions. I would rather wait and have a doctor seem like they actually care about me vs a doctor the hurries through as many patients as possible and only views us as dollar signs.
You do realize most canadian doctors do exactly the same thing? Because the government pays them a flat amount per patient, so they try to pass as many people as possible in a day.
Every year there are 300,000 Canadians that travel to US because I they are put on a on a long waiting list to get surgery and would rather pay the money to get it done and over with... I got a concussion and waited 8 hours in the waiting room 2 other people only to be told that the doctors are very busy over and over again. I've never had to use US Healthcare but I can tell you that in Canada they do not care asmuch as they would like you to beleive. My Roommate also waited 2 days in the waiting room to get a broken hand fixed and because he was a fast healer they had to re break the bones to set it back properly which they messed up at
Exactly....its not "free". Its just not as transparent, as in say Germany where 16-19% comes off your gross pay each month. On the plus side, I can walk into my local doctor's office the same day or just show up to see my GP and book an MRI in a week.
I would support lowering general personal income taxes but introducing/increasing Medicare insurance premiums so that people are more understanding that it’s not “free”. Also, it would prevent some provinces from use federal healthcare transfers for other things. If that goes to a provincial health insurance pool that is separate from general provincial income/expenses it could lead to more accountability in government spending.
The key in the USA is to get a good paying job that offers great insurance. I worked for a supermarket thru college. There was nothing taken out of my paycheck for the insurance premiums and I only had to pay $100 per year for a deductible before the insurance covered 90% of my healthcare costs. Preventative stuff like mammograms, PAP smears, colonoscopy, physicals were free. Meds were $10 for name brand and $5 for generic. I could go to any specialist I wanted without seeing my Primary Care Physician first. I've never had better insurance since then, and I even work in health care now. My husband works for non-profit type companies and his insurance is equal to what I had at the supermarket.
Canads does not have free health care. Most companys pay for employees medical service plans. People who dont work are covered by the tax collected from working people.
"People who dont work are covered by the tax collected from working people." - this is what "free healthcare" is. Healthcare should be available to everyone and financed via taxes. These taxes I'm willing to pay and, honestly, everyone should.
Canada’s healthcare: “Giving Birth? Go home” - based on a story of something that happened recently Anerica’s healthcare: “yea we’ll help you, but it will be costly”
A secret that everyone knows but nobody talks about.... the bill that the hospital sends you is their "wish list". If they get any of that amount paid they're thankful, and if you pay 20% they practically send a sexy nurse to your house to give you a complimentary sponge bath.
honestly in canada you have to wait a solid 20 minutes (from the Canadian province im from) and dont charge much for example from what i know its 45 dollars for an ambulance
This is the same is Australia my mum was literally dying and it took they 4 hours to come and do nothing and leave for 2 hours and give her a jelly cup finally after the entire 6 hours they finally helped me
I live in Kingston Ontario Canada. If I wanted to see my family doctor all I have to do is call in at 8:30 am when their phone lines open, and I can have an appointment that day. And no I don't have to pay anything for it.
@@joycesamuel5065 When all costs are taken into account (e.g. taxes, insurance rates, out-of-pocket) Americans pay more for healthcare than any other nation. And without an appreciable increase in quality. In America we have convinced ourselves that we will pay twice as much to a private insurance company if it means not paying half the amount in taxes.
I woke up to unbearable pain at 2 am. I called 811 and was triaged by a nurse who suspected kidney stones. She called ahead to the hospital so would expect me. It took less than 10 minutes for me to be in a hospital bed, painkillers. Doctor saw me at 6 am, had all my tests and prescriptions, home at 4 pm. Total cost: $0. Even the parking was free. I live in Canada. Yes, things are bad in ER, we are experiencing physician and nurse shortages like most of the world.
At least in the US you get the option to get health care. In Canada fell on my shoulder and i was crying in pain, friend drove me to the hospital. 6 hrs later i finally got a x-ray and the doctors said that there was nothing obviously wrong, to follow-up with my dr in a week. Thing is my dr retired and i have been on the wait list for 8 months at the time. A week later still couldn't move my arm couldn't lean back, couldn't lie down, couldn't work or cook or really sleep, dressing myself took hrs. Went to see urgent care, urgent care told me to go to the ER, another 6 hrs or so at emergency another x-ray doctor still didnt know what was going and said to go see my doctor. Went back to urgent care they said the couldn't help me. Doing all this back n forth I'm shaking and crying in pain. Friend finally said f this, two days driving my friend brought me to the city where her cousin worked as a nurse and she finally got seen by a doctor (that had to put me on more wait lists to see specialists but at least he acknowledged something was wrong).
@@elyuko293 In the US we pay more for healthcare, we are just giving it to insurance companies instead of the government. Americans are the only people proud to pay more for healthcare because they are scared of the word socialism.
Here in the US I recently had to wait 6 months to see a doctor as a new patient. Didn’t get seen until over an hour past my appt time. As I was waiting, another woman was very upset to find out how much she’d have to pay for some scans they did on her. Said she couldn’t afford it and she had insurance. My eye drops are $1,900 every three months and I have insurance. We have the best healthcare but most Americans can’t afford to get it.
Blatant lies. If you waited 6 months, you didnt bother to find a quicker appointment. And no, your eyedrops are not $1900 every 3 months (that would exceed the maximum OOP as outlined by federal law). You lie to strangers online to pretend you’re a victim. Seek psychiatric help.
i work in a medical office. the lights in patient rooms go off if no one is moving inside. i tell people wave their arms around like octopi from time to time because the wait can be a bit before the doctor comes in lol.
Was scheduled for a surgery to get rid of a kidney stone in Etobicoke. Waited about 5 hours only to be told that I have to come back tomorrow for my surgery.
@@faithrb01 yeah, side effect of the ACA meant more people actually got insurance that covered "pre-existing conditions." more usage=longer lines. but on the flip side, the ACA made it so physician owned hospitals can't expand and doctors can't start or take over hospitals, so private equity runs things more for profit, prioritizing the most profitable conditions for the people most able to pay. rich get treated, poor get streeted
that's pretty normal for my part of the US. would be several months for a specialist. some specialists are booked up to a year in advance. it's basically because I live in an area where everyone can actually afford healthcare, as compared to one of the places where people just use street drugs for pain or die 'cause they can't afford treatment.
@@thatJackBidenTalksAbout yea its rough in the states but im talking about booking a month or more to see a general practitioner. Speciallist you could be on a waiting list for upwards of a year if they dont forget you
@@brunorbattlehammer yeah, that's what I was saying. I usually have to book a month ahead for my PA - not even a full on GP, a physician's assistant. dermatologist is about 2 or 3 months in advance, cardiologist...not worth the wait + cost 😂 was supposed to be something like $300 for the cardiologist, just for him to probably say "cut back on the caffeine and beer"
I’m arabic Canadian citizen and once i was working in the United States for couple of years and for the first time i had to go to the hospital they ran diagnosis on me in no time with a great clean facility and respectfully customer service and adding more without telling me anything they walked me out and they send me a 100💲 dollars bill to my home mailbox and it wasn’t strictly that i have to pay it , it was like optional in Baton Rouge Louisiana I paid with much respect and gratitude. Not like when i came back to Canada i had to wait in the emergency room for 12 hours to go in until i shouted at them and they got me what i wanted and it was a simple thing how insane is that . There’s no comparison Canada needs to grow up with the huge tax dollars we pay we deserve better healthcare system-- other wise allow people and professions to open private clinics.
In my area in Canada 99% of the time in the emergency room the wait time is usually like 8 hours but I have seen it go up to 11 hours, in fact someone I know who needed help got better treatment in the ambulance than the Hospital because the wait time was like 9 hours.
@@foreignfat6009 Not retarded. If you have a job, you can pay for your own healthcare. If you're a slob, you get no healthcare. I like that system & I'm a Canadian.
Over the last few years, I've had congestive heart failure, a heart attack, three abdominal surgeries, lens implants in both eyes,emergency surgery for a blocked stomach and have literally spent months in the hospital here in Canada plus there were hundreds of follow up visits to doctors over the years. The cost to me was $0.00, zero, nothing, nada. A few times I did have to wait hours in the emergency room, althought not for the serious emergency stuff. I would not trade the Canada medical care system for the lousy USA one ever. You would have to be crazy just to live in the USA.
@@dorfone You are lucky. In Ontario it takes years to see a specialist and then years to get surgery. To see an actual doctor in the ER is usually a 16 hour wait and it often does NOT result in getting help, they just give you a band aid temporary solution to get you out of there as quickly as possible. Immigration has totally destroyed Ontario. I hope it doesn't come by your way because it will hurt your province in ways that are not repairable.
@@TP-yw6hj Our wait time are very long here too, unfortunately. Neither of our provinces are training enough doctors to meet the demand. The usual wait time for a doctor here is five to six hours in the ER unless it is an emergency. With the heart attack, congestive heart failure and the blocked stomach I was literally admitted to the ER in just minutes. But I recently waited eight hours to see a doctor after I broke a toe. I have nothing against immigrants. My doctor retired a couple of years ago and I was incredibly lucky because she found another doctor to take over her practice. He is an immigrant from Nigeria but trained as a doctor in the UK and he is great. Half the doctors at my local hospital are immigrants to Canada and so are many of the nurses and hospital support staff. The same is true in all the Halifax hospitals too. Without them I would be dead.
@@TP-yw6hj what the hell kind of specialist are you trying to book?? it's taken me maybe a month to see a specialist about my corneas and i was booked for surgery a month later and that was only because he wanted to see if a different treatment worked first. my sister only waited a couple weeks to see a cardiac specialist and was booked for surgery a week later. and this is in GTA.
When I lived in the US, I always had to wait an ungodly amount of time for the doctor to show up. I don't know about Canada, but both the UK & Spanish national health services are at worst as slow, but usually considerably faster.
@@alimusawi100 Well, the NHS has those problems because it's chronically underfunded, but I know what you mean. Still, talk to Americans who have to rely on insurance & you'll find many of them also have long waits.
@@jgwill And in the UK & Spain, I've never had to wait as long as an hour. Except maybe (maybe) once when I had to go to the emergency room on a Friday evening.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I have never heard of anyone visiting European/Canadian health centers that never had to wait weeks or months to get appointments, and then wait hours at the appointment as well. Also, chronically underfunded means they need more tax money from you to pay for it right?
i think this is dafault for any country...here in brazil you can die in in the public hospitals...if you pay or have benefits like you said your life will be better...
Canada....yes you need to wait but it's free. Allows people who do not have the means to pay to get seen by a doctor the possibility to do so at a cost of$0.00
The main reason why hospitals are so expensive is because the companies that produce the machines and equipment used in hospitals markup the prices of their equipment by 10s of thousands. I have spoken to some laboratory technicians who work with biopsy samples from patients and one of their machines had broken. They said the price for a replacement was $40000 but upon seeing what it was, I was pretty sure it could be built for no more than $3000 and a few days work
You may wait in Canada, but at least everyone can see the doctor. The US, you wait, pay out the ass, and those who can't afford it (and don't qualify for free or low cost coverage) don't see a doctor at all. 🤷
@@Brandenuzis Wow, you have decent health insurance{not BCBS). I've read where people have used Ubers instead of ambulances because of astronomical ambulance bill.
Realistically the Canadian guy should have been a skeleton in the wait room to illustrate how long you have to wait to even be SEEN by a doctor and the chances of getting a good doctor is slim to none. In the US you get seen that day.
@@thegreypath1777 You 100% get seen that day by a physician or a doctor especially if you're paying for it That's not the case in Canada You're waiting months to get an appointment just to be seen. Canada's " free " healthcare is so bad that now they're offering to assist suicide people since paying for their medical with that " Free " healthcare seems to be a lot harder than previously advertised
If you need a specialist in the US, you *might* get seen in a few months. If you live somewhere with a lot of old folks who have medicare, good luck even getting an appointment at a clinic. And all for the low, low price of about $800 to $1200 less pay per month, assuming your employer even has to "provide" insurance.
People in the comments are under estimating the wait times in Canada. If you go into Emerg in ontario with lets say a broken bone, your looking at least 6 to 10 hours.
Canadians dont get free healthcare. They pay 30% of their income before they even get a paycheck. So really theyre paying more for inferior care. Here in the US, my family pays about 1-2% of our income to total of health premiums and after insurance costs for a family of 5. About $350/month. If we lived in canada, we would be paying $7500/month whether we used health services or not.
Ya but since everybody is paying. The number will become smaller that's how division works. Also with an added bonus you don't need to worried about your bill afterwards
Not to mention Canadians travel to the U.S. when they need specialized medical care or don’t want to wait 5 months for surgery with Stage 4 colon cancer, for example.
@@legalyaya12Not the case for me. I was diagnosed with colon cancer after a routine colonoscopy. Was referred the same day for lab work and had a CT scan the following week. Saw a surgeon within another week and had surgery 10 days later. Spent 3 days in the hospital and have had follow up scans. Everything was scheduled quickly and my out of pocket expense over the last 2 years has been $0.
it's not inferior, just used more, so there's a slight wait. it's not $350, it's $350+ whatever an employer pays that could be paid to to the employee instead - my COBRA from one place was $1,200/month after I left, which meant my employer was paying another $800 they could have paid me instead. and then there's the $2000 deductible, the copays for every visit, the prescription costs for every fill... if it was paid for by taxes, the state can use economy of scale to make big guaranteed purchases, rather than insurance and clinics nickel and diming us at every turn
When I moved to Canada, after my first visit to a clinic I wasn't really sure about free medical system and asked the lady in the waiting room "do we just go out the door after seeing the doctor...?" and she was like "Um... What eles do you do...? lol"😂 Her face looked like I was asking the most weird question of the century.
LMAO, I regularly wait a couple hours at most doctor appointments in the US and pay through the nose to do so. Gladly change for waiting without masive debt
American here: You have this dissolution that Americans don’t have to wait to see their doctors - you are wrong. You could duplicate the same waiting time as the Canadian in your film. Handing over all of your credit cards at the end is accurate though, for Americans.
And then show the one where you have that same form of rare cancer, and then you just kiss your butt goodbye because you're in the canadian health care system and you know you'll be dead by the t8me they get around to you.
Last time I went to Doctor here in Canada, after waiting hours and hours he sent me for an Ultrasound, then to a Specialist with a 1 year waiting list. Finally just fixed the problem myself. What a joke!
India Is Full of doctors. 8 dollars for x ray.. 50 dollars for MRI. 5 dollars for a consulting doctor. THIS avarage for all over India. The same day you can get an appointment for orthopedic, neurology, or MD. India health care is very cheaper.
No 🧢 I waited 3 hours in a emergency room with like 3 other people only 1 of the lady's were literally crying in pain, some homeless guy then walked up to her and said throw yourself on the floor they'll help you immediately never had so much respect for a junkie
Ps she did it and got immediate help
It’s now…. Bc of lack of staff.
I got into the ER in Abbotsford at 9 pm last June after a major shoulder injury, immediately got x-rays because they suspected head or neck trauma, but after they realized that my head was fine, I was triaged to the very bottom and waited until about 5 am. I was sobbing on the floor because the seats hurt too much to sit in but wasn't even offered a sling until I begged for one and when I finally saw the doc he said it'd only take two weeks to heal. Since I wasn't able to move my shoulder to the right position for the x-rays, the x-rays ended up being very misguiding and the injury was actually bad enough that I'm still not clear for sports yet 8 months later :( biggest thing I learned is you gotta advocate for yourself like crazy in this country!
@sma4827 100% bro it's all fucked up if I get really sick I'm headed to Germany fuck this place 🫸🏾
@@sma4827 Aw, I hope you can recover soon! Do you have followups with a doctor about the injury?
😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
I'm a nurse in Canada and u wait so long in the room to see the doctor even I have gone snooping through the drawers and cupboards....my kids get so embarrassed 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😂😂😂
We all do this in Canada. It's all unlocked for this reason.
@@nasraelmi9142 ummm u ever hear of taxes? Nothing is free
I have never done this ....now I am curious🤔🤣
@Eric you are very uneducated
It’s worse now bc of Covid and the lack of staff…. But it wasn’t like that before.
I’d rather wait a hour and not be in financial debt
@Blackout____ I don’t do you need to live in America to speak on issues to do with it? I’m not Canadian either. I’m British and I’ve had to wait 2 days before but I’d rather do that than go into medical debt.
@@Demonoicgamer666 What about insurance/coverage. Before I turned 21 I was covered by my parents dental plan they had through their work. After your appointment they’d just take your information and send the bill to the insurance company.
And I would gladly pay $50 to cut that wait in half. See what I'm getting at? Healthcare doesn't have to cost exuberant amounts of money nor does it have to take ages. I have a feeling we're getting screwed.
@@anonymouse527 $50 is a lot for a hour and I reckon you’re paying $100 on the low end 500 on the high end just to see them for half hour is $250 for 30 minutes visit worth it sure it’s your health but most people can’t afford that.
@@jeff3388 yeah spending money on something that most of the time you don’t need you still have to pay at least 10% so let’s say your bill is $5000 you’re paying $500 that in the moment may not look like a big deal but when you realise you still got bills to pay rent $600 electric, water and gas add up to $450 then you got to buy food to begging of the month and you have already spent $1550 out of $2000 a month $300 for food depending on if you go out leaving you with $150 to enjoy and you then have car insurance and fuel which leaves you with at best $50 for yourself although you may need to pay your healthcare coverage which puts you in debt for $50. $500 may not look like you’ll need but just wait.
You know waiting times are shorter in the US? Because so many people don't go to the doctor because of how expensive it is.
Sadly thats true😢😂
exactly, this entire comment section doesn’t realize that
@@shronkthestupendous4737 only a rich person or a person who doesn't live in the US could say such a preposterous statement.
Thank you for saying that. People just forget that part and just start talking down on socialized healthcare. In America your a customer not a patient in hospitals. I had to wait 4-5 hours to see a doctor and i had to wait in the hallway on a bed (never got a room) in under extreme chest pain in America. And let’s just say they didn’t do jack sht about the pain and slapped 27k. It took a year to fix the bill with my insurance company because they really don’t want to help people.
@@shronkthestupendous4737 if you're a Canadian then you realize emergencies are prioritized and you don't have to pay out of pocket for the procedures.
I always go late to my appointments in Canada because I know my doctors will still not be there to see me on time😂
I remember waiting like almost 2 hours just to see my doctor for 15 minutes. Shits wild
@@fatkid420 see that's just criminal in my opinion. Sure healthcare here is expensive (I wouldn't know all my visits are free including any/all dental work) but I'd rather pay a bit more to be seen as soon as my butt cheek hits the chair.
Socialized healthcare. Ever been to Cuba? Cuba is a socialist/communist system. In Cuba you have to pay before you get services, anywhere, because at the end of the day they get paid either way. The government pays their salaries, so they can screw around all they want. There is no big boss to supervise them. In other words, they'll make you wait.
In a private system doctors need to have good time management skills, like any other private sector job, or else they'd lose their job. Time is $$$. If I didn't have good time management on my job I'd be fired on the spot! Same principle with doctors within private healthcare. Clinic and hospitals don't like low ratings on Google, etc. They are constantly pushing their employees to give good services and move their butts! That's why it works way better. The doctors aren't running the show. Their bosses/administration are. And they're not being paid by the State but rather insurance companies who are constantly down their backs. Insurance companies don't like doctors who waste their money. That's why services are better and they don't do half A jobs.
what a bunch of whiners. you'd be fucked if you lived in the states..if you're unhappy then go live there
@@sebastienbolduc5654 1) why couldn't we just implement some form of auditing process to make the docs are meeting quotas? 2) it's not slow here in Canada because the doctors are paid salary which makes them lazy (which often isn't even true, most are paid per patient), it's mainly slow here in Canada bc we have a huge shortage of doctors because many of them go to med school here where it's cheaper and then move to the states where they can make so much more by charging insane amounts and Canada doesn't recognize a medical doctorate degree from a large portion of the world so we can't even promote immigration to help
I live in Canada. I went to the ER with a compression fracture of two vertebrae in my spine after a serious accident. I couldn't take the pressure on my spine sitting down so I literally laid on the floor in the ER waiting room for 12 hours before I got taken for X-Rays and saw a doctor. After seeing my X-Rays, the doctor immediately gave a significant dose of narcotic pain killers. I understand how so many people die in the waiting rooms in Canada. Those were some of the hardest 12 hours of my life.
Could you please get me a visa and pr in canada?
@@Safa-fs6sdWOW!!!
You must live in buttfuk nowhere if it took 12 hours..
I'm so sorry and I believe you because my husband God bless his soul was sick of lung cancer in 2021 and we waited seven hours straight at Victoria Hospital emergency room in London and he fainted then they felt sorry and took him in. Their reason for the delay all the beds were occupied by the junkies and have no more room to take even the seriously ill people. They need to have special hospitals for the junkies because they're getting more from all over Ontario. They call London the Medical City yeah right lol
That seems that it could be fixed.
Do you know how much that would cost you in the US? With health insurance or the tens of thousands that it would cost without it?
In Canada you wait a long time.
In USA you sell your car to pay the bills.
in socialism people who need health come first, in capitalism people who have money come first.
in socialism the homeless person who has had an accident takes precedence over the millionaire because he needs help more than the millionaire who just has a flu.
but in capitalism the millionaire comes first, he doesn't need to queue because he can pay the hospital bills, and he doesn't need to queue with the homeless.
because the homeless person never came to the hospital in the first place in capitalism. because it's useless to come only to be rejected because you can't pay the health costs.
so make more money
In Canada, doctors also assisted suicide because they don’t want to treat patients
@Hottdogg1234nah i prefer waiting, also stop using the insurance excuse it’s annoying
@@Cyancloud13cant see the comment you are replying to. How does that work? Sorry thats unrelated to your comment but your comment is also unrelated from where im sitting 😂
Living in Canada all my life, and in multiple cities across the country….the sweet spot is to have Canada’s healthcare system in a mid-size town with no more than 500-800K in population. Once you hit something like 1mil, or the GTA (multi-city or tri-city), the wait times and service gets worse.
I'm in Charlottetown, and the wait time is horrendous, and the population is 35K.
Thank God I live in south surrey
You only have like 9 million more people than Texas in the whole country.
The fact that any of you have to wait is embarrassing.
Barrie, ON 100k pop and allistion, ON 20k i've waited min 4 hours. the health care system is broken and all the doctors have gone to the US.
Yup! Worked in one in Quebec City and at 800K population, the wait time was about 1/3 or less of what it is in Montreal.
I also NEVER had to wait for any serious injury, anywhere in the country. My ex had 6 years of cancer treatments, on and off, and there was never any wait either.
It's all of the people that show up at the emergency with regular colds, hung nails, wood splinters in the finger, or imagined ailments that NO specialist can ever diagnose that take 3/4 of the system's time and cost.
There was a call for a 5$ fee for a visit, to keep the social-contact seekers, and the fakers or hypochondriacs away, but THAT got a bunch of people outraged and calling for the head of the ministry. So it never happened.
IF you ask for your priority after triage, and they say 5, GO HOME! unless you are the only one there, if it's 4, you'll wait a LONG while... And remember, any MORE serious case incoming, puts you LOWER in the pile.
PS: There IS also a shortage of specialists in some areas. Fields like Dermatology, and other highly paid and in-demand specialties in the USA tend to attract a lot of OUR graduates. Also, NOBODY stops at family medicine anymore. The PAY increase by choosing another branch and putting in a few years of school/training (or more) is just too great. So those two things make it hard for some people to get treatment or even just exams.
Ah so different in Japan.. here u need to come 5 mins earlier prior to your appointment and all the staff and nurses were really nice!
Japan is built different
@@H8njiyeah and their crimes against humanity committed all throughout Asia
@@Metha_59 Okay and? A lot of developed countries were responsible for atrocities. You know why? Because they were capable of it, technologically or otherwise.
Go to southeast Asia today and tell me that not one person is willing to pawn off their 14 year old daughter to a sex trafficker for a wad of cash, and tell me that all cops would prevent it over taking a bribe. Go to a random tribe in the Amazon, sub-saharan African, or Papua New Guinea and tell me that none of them practice ritual human sacrifices, believe in child witches, and regularly consume human flesh. Yeah, people everywhere can be backwards. Let’s not ignore that.
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@@Metha_59 that was during ww2. Imperial japan
I’d rather wait as a Canadian than be told by my insurance company that I can’t get the treatment my Dr suggest I need because I have to do XYZ first.
or because the insurance company decides it's not medically necessary.
FYI: here in America not only do you have to wait, you also have to pay big bucks.
I'm from Canada. Our system is not perfect, wait times are long, but I have never paid a single penny my whole life to get medical care. I'll take that any day.
Do you pay taxes? If so, then you have paid for medical care through our high taxes. It just doesn't feel like a giant kick to the nuts or ovaries all at once but a slow depletion more and more out of our pay checks lol
@jax1580 I pay a lot of taxes, but I'm totally okay with it. Nobody should have to financially bankrupt their family because they are sick.
@@jax1580It’s all relative. I don’t go to the doctor because I have a $2k deductible that is after my company and I pay over $10k per year…
That's true and I'm Canadian too. Not sure what would do if we pay thousands of dollars like the US. I would move to another country.
@vickiemazzawi The US would save a ton of money by implementing universal healthcare but the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions. Its disgusting...
Canada " You feel pain.. have you tried EUTHANASIA?"
Not gonna lie it’s sounding more and more like a valid solution now a days hahahaha
This kind of mentality is why there are so many serial killers around
@@dynastywarriorlord07no one cares about you not being able to get a joke
@@dynastywarriorlord07they made this joke because Euthanasia for humans is LEGAL in Canada
@@Toxic_Diamonds But that's only for terminally ill patients though, isn't it? It's not for someone who broke and arm/leg but is perfectly healthy otherwise
The Canadian visit to the hospital made me laugh because it's true I Myself pace around the room touching things when I get tired a lay down take a power nap and wait for the doctor
One is free and one is stupidly expensive
Not exactly
Not free, calculate taxes over the years
Id rather wait 8 hours than pay 8 thousand.
You are still paying that 8 thousand through high taxes so whats the point?
@@truthseekingtroll3575 and it’s not as big as you make it seem. I get far more out of my health care than I pay towards it.
Good for you . Why shouting here . I would rather pay . At least not soul crushing texes . I can afford things and you cant . Welll
My Canadian friend has cancer and is getting treated here in the US because she would’ve had to wait 6 months for treatment. And that’s a normal wait time for medical things like that in countries with free healthcare
@@Mster_Jmy mother in the United States had to wait 3 days for an xray for her broken foot, I had to wait a month for a video visit with my doctor, when I scheduled an in person visit for first thing in the morning when the doctor’s office opened I still had to wait a half an hour for the doctor.
I prefer United States healthcare, and I’ll tell you why. My job covers 85% of the total cost. Sometimes I can see the doctor for free and if I go see a specialist I literally pay the price of a movie ticket. The bonus is that I can see the doctor the same day that I start feeling my symptoms. I’ll pay 30 bucks to see the doctor the same day that my tooth starts hurting as opposed to it being free and not being able to go for a month.
....is it including the medication? because in our 3rd world poor country, 100% covered means that....100%.
@@nurlindafsihotang49 meds vary. I may get it for free or i may pay up to 10 bucks or so…but again, i can see the doctor, and get my meds for free or maybe 10 bucks at max…on the same day i get my symptoms. Ill take that over 100 percent fee but i have to wait until god knows when…probably after im already dead and the infection has spread
You don't know how many people would sacrifice to gain your position..
@augustusx82 damn bro, good for you. Which company do you work for? What type of industry to get these perks?
If you had universal healthcare instead of paying your medical bills your company could just pay you more money.
And employer-paid healthcare is a trap used to control workers. You can't leave a bad job because if you do you no longer have health insurance.
As an American, my last appointment going to the doctor. I waited for 5 hours before they brought me into the office for my examination. I then waited in that same office for 3 hours befor the doctor began the examination.
I wrote the letter to minister of Healthcare in Saskatchewan and changed family doctor. Now we don't have any problem . Healthcare must be available for all Canadians.
How is Manitoba health care ?
You forgot that the American one has a crap ton of paperwork.
And a lot of money down the drain
@@stingsdoesntit5390Doctors aren’t non-profit, pay up. Also, the paper work is for a good reason usually. (Keeping records of important shit, etc.)
@@ulacylon-timetrio9664LOL you’re definitely American 😂😂
@@ulacylon-timetrio9664erm. Oh sure. Heres your 728182737281 T $ for a bandaid..yep..sure enough. And oh, i have to sign 40 hours worth of paperwork for one singular benadryl..yep..wow. sure efficient...
@marcusianaviation9372 yea the paper work is for records
I wish it was that easy to get seeing in the US. I had an appointment set up for 3 months. Told me to be there 15 min before my appointment to fill out the paperwork. Did all that, got weighted, blood pressure checked and told me to wait for my doctor. Took about 2 hours when a nurse came in and saw me in there with a shocked fave and then told me he would notify the doctor. And hour and a half alter the doctor comes in and in 10 minutes with him I got sent out.
In Canada when I had major emergencies, (example colic due to stones in the kidneys and vesicles) a half an hour after my arrival in the emergency room was already being treated. But certainly if the pain is bearable the waiting time can be 4-5h.
In Portugal it's the same
More like 18h. Check the recent hospital wait times in Ottawa.
It’s the same in the US but we pay more for it. We have to wait a long time in the ER too if what we have is not life threatening.
and that is to be expected. this is an emergency but not a life threatening issue. you were placed in priority. honestly seems more like an urgent care visit but along as it was addressed that's all that matters.
I waited 26 hours till I started to hallucinate and had to go home lol
Hahaha so very true! I went to my orthopaedic surgeon today. 6 xrays and the consult - zero dollars. Wished him a merry Christmas and went home!
How long did it take to see him though?
Yea & how much do they take from you in taxes each year!? 😂😂 No such thing as "free healthcare"
@@bvpmiranda oo just saw this lol mmm three weeks?
@@TrudeausBlackFace still less than most Americans spend on medical bills a year
@@zombiewolf1671 Sure. For average 4+ hours ER wait times & subpar care. Cause it's "free". People dying while "waiting" for a surgery that takes 2-3 years to take place. People dying while waiting for a doc in the emergency rooms. No, thanks. I'd rather pay for quality care.
In Canada you pay for it in taxes, whether you use it or not. The equivalent of every citizen paying $7,000 per year. And it is not health care, it is health rationing.
Yeah, that's also how US insurance works you still pay even if you don't use it.
And the average American is paying $13,000 a year in healthcare costs. So we pay more than the Canadians.
I would love to pay *only* $7,000 a year, are you kidding?!
My insurance is decent and cheap, and costs $9,600 / year (employer "pays half" instead of paying me, and then the other half I pay out of my paycheck, so it's about $800/month), and then there's the $2,500 deductible before they start paying for any treatments.
When I left one job they offered me COBRA - which "let's you" keep your employer insurance as long as you pay the full cost. It would have been $1,200 a month, or $14,000 a year! That's ¢14,400 that could have gone into my pocket, instead, and then I'd only have to give $7,000 to the state? Sign me TF up!
@@MC-yt1uv13k is cap I pay 3k per year for a family. Unless its in California 😂
You're not allowed to say that sir.
Free health care and most prescriptions are covered or partially covered here in Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦
Unless you're depressed in which case the government will offer to kill you
Pretty certain it's not "free". I'm guessing you're paying insurance.
Same as here in Germany. I often hear from uninformed Americans that we have "free health care". It's not true at all. We pay insurance fees and it's quite expensive in fact. Around 15 % of our income.
We do not pay for health care. Ambulance fees apply unless you are on a low income government program. We do not pay for emergency services or surgeries, X Ray's, MRI'S, or any other medical testing. Some prescriptions are government covered or a very small fee is paid. Saskatchewan has had free coverage for many decades.
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Canada has really bad Healthcare my mother had cancer and they kept postponing her treatments and now shes dead but they never should have kept pushing back when she had cancer. Wouldnt have a problem paying for treatment at all if she got the treatment right away.
Did you consider travelling to the US for care?
It’s unfortunate she died but at least she didn’t have to spend any extra money other than her lifetime of taxes.
Yeah..it’s crazy how bad health care is right now. They have such a shortage and the people that actually work are over worked. My moms a doctor in Canada and she sees hundreds of patients.. I’m sorry for you loss.
yup they treated my Grandfather for pneumonia for a year then said oops its cancer and its to far gone nothing we can do
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Bro, I live in US by the side of a huge hospital, near Lake Nona(a medical city) there are a max of 5 cars in the entire hospital parking lot. A lot of people here have the mentality "Oh, if it gets worse then I will go." But when it gets worse, it alredy too late. Like most cancer cases, there are a lot of cancer related deaths in US because of the mentality "I will go if it gets worse", and when the person finally goes to the doctor, the cancer already spreaded through the body. Health should be free, it is a human need, a human right!!!!
Nothing is free in society some people put in the work
@@BaconSlayer69 yeah Healthcare should be paid with taxes
Social democracy = Best democracy
with so many illegal people in USA is impossible
Food is also a human right,It should be free
Including housing etc
You’re hilarious!!! I’m a Nurse and I know people play with the instruments in the room 😂♥️
hahha oh ya!
Lol! I am honestly always so scared I’d get caught!!… eve wanted to! 😊
I like reading the medical posters on the wall.
Well if they give supposedly free “healthcare” people treat it like a fast food joint instead of a doctors office. In the US we respect the medical office supplies and furniture.
U act like we're savages for being curious...go clutch your pearls somewhere else while you get scammed by your hospital
Reminds me of that episode of Mr. Bean, at the dentist.
Take care, and all the best.
Yes youre right!
In Canada, you have to wait even longer to get a procedure. My surgeon told me I might have to wait over a year to get my nose fixed. I've been waiting almost 2 years to get a colonoscopy.(Funny, colonoscopy doesn't come up in my auto correct.)
at least in Canada you do not have to pay 20,000
@bazookagaming1129 yeah we do. We're taxed up the ass. Our Healthcare only appears to be free, but it's not.
go to india
A few years ago I was in terrible pain and for the longest time my family and family doctor thought it was just growing pains. Only to discover that I had gallstones and before I could even properly schedule a procedure day I came into the ER with my pain level being at a 9 and I was seen in about 15mins, the ER doctor told me that if I haven’t come in when I had my gallbladder would have burst. I was given morphine, I was scheduled for surgery the next day but due to a emergency C-section it was pushed back another day (apparently it was a beautiful and healthy baby boy) but there was a cancellation the next morning and I was able to get one then.
@@shannon-leemcnaughton5031 oh wow, that's crazy. I'm glad you didn't get seriously hurt.
What a lie. Dual citizen here and uh...the majority of the US (over 80% has employer insurance (similar to Bismarck models in Japan, Germany, France).
Public sector programs are indeed funded by tax dollars: Medicaid, State Chip, ACA, Veterans and portions of Medicare. Yes, I'm an advocate of streamlining these and having non profit insurance orgs administer them as done in other countries that use Bismarck models for their public sector.
Lost my mom in BC Canada to Cancer last year and the wait times for the diagnostic imaging were horrendous. She was a nurse her entire life who paid her taxes for over 50 years and didn't get to see the Oncologist even once before dying. It was like a 3rd world country.
Canada's system is collapsing right now and is so bad its being dragged to the Supreme Court of Canada as they have had 30 years to fix the crisis, yet nothing changes. Public sector needs: patient focused funding instead of block payments, user fees, cut the administrative bloat and move to a Bismarck model with non-profit health insurance orgs.
Last - allow the private sector to fully run alongside the public sector. It's the 21st century and Canada is now the last remaining country on planet earth that makes it illegal for its citizens to purchase private health insurance for ALL services covered under Provincial Medicare. Canadian citizens deserve what every other social democracy provides their citizens: A CHOICE.
This is such a well-stated comment. I am very sorry for what happened to your mother. And I agree, the Canadian public health system needs a ton of work. The problem also is: Canadians have such a myopic view about the rest of the world vs. their own country (in many different ways). Many believe Canada's universal health care system works, and vehemently oppose private health care because of what they read on the news in the U.S. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has hinted at introducing some elements of private healthcare to supplement the universal health care system, and as soon as he did people lost their minds. A system that combines both as you said would only help.
Watch when you say 3rd world country 😊
I’m an Indian citizen living in the United States and I promise that the health care in India is a 1000 times better than the US! I have been to the ER, Urgent Care and just the normal docs and everything, I kid you not, everything is better in India! I don’t know what I am doing in the states 😢 💰?
@@amoghtayade481
In the US, the healthcare you receive, depends on which State you reside in.
In terms of medical innovation such as breakthrough procedures & lifesaving medication, & research, statistically there is not one country in the world that compares to the U.S.
That is not to brag, that is just a statistical fact. The U.S. also collaborates with other countries on research.
I understand, now after living here, that the U.S. needs to treat healthcare differently due to its leading position in medical innovation which is derived from a great deal of capital investment.
Ironically, other countries with socialized medicine, have no problem using these breakthroughs & innovations but then turn around and criticize the U.S. for not having nationwide Universal Healthcare. It’s like biting off the hand that feeds them.
Is BC’s wait time significantly much longer and has gotten much worse? I’m in Ontario, it doesn’t seem to be thhaaat bad, yes sometimes you have to wait for a long time to see a specialist, or wait in the emergency room for 3-4 hrs if your are not dying in the next 10 min. I heard cancer patients do get good treatment and don’t need to pay nearly as much as in the US. Also I used to live in China, the system there is much much faster then Canada but the quality of service is really bad, it’s like going to a super super busy shopping market, with doctors and nurses shouting at you, being super impatient coz they have to deal with sooo many people at the same time. I much more prefer to see a doctor in Canada.
And sorry about your mom! It looks like a problem in BC, I’m not sure if it’s the same here in Ontario, I hope not.
Pay big bucks to see a dr right away or wait 8 hrs to see one that you paid 15% taxes. Hard one
Only even when you pay the big bucks, unless they're *seriously* big bucks, you still have to wait.
I feel like it may not be too far apart when you count we have to pay premiums and a deductible before insurance actually kicks in. The main thing we got against themis less wait times and more specialized doctors....and Freedom! lol
@@RaiderNation126 See, as someone who lived in the US for many years, I don't get the "freedom" bit. In the US, I was limited to the doctors included in my insurance plan. In the UK & Spain, I'm limited to the doctors in my neighbourhood. And in any country, if I'm unhappy with the choices and have the money, I can go private. So how is there "more freedom" in the US?
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I feel you but I meant it as a joke lol. In the states when you're just yelling USA or freedom it's. Usually to make fun of our extreme form of nationalism with the pledge of allegiance and all that you know lol.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 Canada, hands down.
Don't drink the U.S. koolaid.
I didn't mind painfully waiting to be treated in the hospital as a Canadian, rather wait for a few hours then to spend the rest of my life paying off my hospital debt.
Canadian living in the USA. I explain that healthcare isn’t truly free and the wait times for basic services. So many are surprised by that.
Well of course its not "free", it's public. But the public system mostly eliminates insurance companies so costs are way lower.
Oh and in the US they give you perfunctory medical advice that you could’ve googled and over the counter meds when you go in for an earache 🙄…I had to pressure the doctor last time I went in for this to give me prescription ibuprofen. Luckily my copays are only $15
I walked in to Emergency with what I thought was a heart attack. I mentioned that to the guard who was patrolling the floor. 2 mins later I'm on a gurney with 4-5 people doing things to me. (this happened in Vancouver BC. There were ample people in waiting room - most there as they have no regular GP - so they use the hospitals!
This is a story that happend irl when I was 11 years old and I live in Canada 🇨🇦 …
Before: we were playing volleyball on a beach, my brother pushed me into the sand, my hand bent backward and my mom wrapped my hand in a tenser… some time later my grandma invited me
to a dance, there was a tea station, I grabbed some and used a napkin so I don’t burn myself by holding the cup, I was using my sprained wrist to support the cup. I then dropped the cup and It spilled all over my sprained hand. I was crying in pain while a kind old man got ice in a cloth and gave it to me, I was rushed to the hospital, while my mom was driving over. It turns out, I had a bad 2nd degree burn which is blisters every where, it was very scary because I almost got a 3rd degree burn which is burning off the skin and leaving the flesh.
I stayed in the hospital for the night and I left at noon the next day.
My mom kept my hand wrapped for about a month and a little bit. After that, I still have scars from that scarce day. Luckily I didn’t have to wait because I was in the most pain. I didn’t have to pay either because I live in Canada. 🇨🇦❤
P.S. I love Canada 🇨🇦
As an American who now lives in Canada my experience has been exactly the opposite! USA wait wait wait get poor service and become popr paying the bill. Canada get right in, get diagnosed go home with no bill. #HappyInWindsorOntario
Well 14k a year ain’t bad considering 13k in America isn’t even enough for 5 days in the hospital
I’m Canadian and we went to LA last spring my wife had to be rushed to ER. Long story short we did what we needed to do. Had to leave asap bec. we had our flight back the next day. Our doctor said frankly Canadian health care is better. Yes we didn’t wait that long as in Canadian hospitals. But thats bec. the lines weren’t that long bec. on how expensive healthcare in the US is. I was stressed w/ both my wife’s condition and how much the bill was. Ended up w/ a US$20k bill, where in Canada we would just walk out. Honestly the time for me to pay was as long as the wait time. Good thing insurance covered everything but the billing process was complicated and you had to sign a ton of waivers before and after just so they won’t be liable. In Canada health card and when done you get out.
As a Canadian, I find our system is fine for basic medical care. But if you need a more niche specialist it's really hard to find so a lot of people opt to go to the States and pay out of pocket where a lot of them end up as they get paid better down there.
Exactly..
Not true
Canada: “Where’s the nurse?”
USA: “You have a headache, that will be $200K” 💀
I wish this wasn't accurate. I called to make a Dr appointment today. The earliest I can see her is mid January because it's "a non-urgent issue"
Atleast in the USA I don’t have to wait months to get screened for cancer only to find out it’s too late. I got health insurance anyway so that mostly covers it.
that still happens in the US, but you also have to pay more than you would in tax whether you have cancer or not.
Yeah I heard a Canadian guy passed away because of that
@@_Sumeyo_many
Literally my neighbour is in stage 4 rn and has 3 kids aged before 8 years old, bc they made her wait 1.5 years to even take her concerns seriously bc they kept waiving her off as being paranoid and having a sore muscle.
@@Alabamaisnotmyrealnamereally sad case. Which type of cancer?
Seeing my Family doctor has always been quick provided I show up 15 minutes before the appointment. However going to the hospitals for semi emergency can take hours before you see a doctor. But never have to worry about paying the bill. I also know that private Health care is incredibly costly but fast in Canada.
it's not that bad compared to how many hidden costs we have. like, "employer provided insurance" is basically a more expensive version of Canada's tax, as anyone who's considered taking COBRA after leaving a job can usually attest to.
In the US if I go to a doctor, I wait a few minutes only for the doctor to look me up and down for about 30 seconds and tell me what they think is wrong with me and leaves without listening to my vitals or asking me questions. I would rather wait and have a doctor seem like they actually care about me vs a doctor the hurries through as many patients as possible and only views us as dollar signs.
You do realize most canadian doctors do exactly the same thing? Because the government pays them a flat amount per patient, so they try to pass as many people as possible in a day.
Every year there are 300,000 Canadians that travel to US because I they are put on a on a long waiting list to get surgery and would rather pay the money to get it done and over with... I got a concussion and waited 8 hours in the waiting room 2 other people only to be told that the doctors are very busy over and over again. I've never had to use US Healthcare but I can tell you that in Canada they do not care asmuch as they would like you to beleive. My Roommate also waited 2 days in the waiting room to get a broken hand fixed and because he was a fast healer they had to re break the bones to set it back properly which they messed up at
It's not better in canada 😂
I waited for 2 hours and did the exactly same thing XD
😂😂😂😂 They don’t give a shit here. They have so many patients to see. Chop, chop, next.
250 billion per year in tax money for our "free" medical".
Exactly....its not "free". Its just not as transparent, as in say Germany where 16-19% comes off your gross pay each month. On the plus side, I can walk into my local doctor's office the same day or just show up to see my GP and book an MRI in a week.
I would support lowering general personal income taxes but introducing/increasing Medicare insurance premiums so that people are more understanding that it’s not “free”. Also, it would prevent some provinces from use federal healthcare transfers for other things. If that goes to a provincial health insurance pool that is separate from general provincial income/expenses it could lead to more accountability in government spending.
All the doctors left to the us. Family doctors are impossible to find now in certain provinces.
i end up waiting here in the US as well...
So do I- in The USA.
It can be years.
Same, once in my old town of less than 180k population the ER wait was 19 hours.
I'd rather wait and not pay
Bud goes to the wrong healthcare facility
Ditto. 14 hours in the ER before I got admitted. Crap care start to finish.
in Vietnam, i order doctors home via an app
The key in the USA is to get a good paying job that offers great insurance. I worked for a supermarket thru college. There was nothing taken out of my paycheck for the insurance premiums and I only had to pay $100 per year for a deductible before the insurance covered 90% of my healthcare costs. Preventative stuff like mammograms, PAP smears, colonoscopy, physicals were free. Meds were $10 for name brand and $5 for generic. I could go to any specialist I wanted without seeing my Primary Care Physician first. I've never had better insurance since then, and I even work in health care now. My husband works for non-profit type companies and his insurance is equal to what I had at the supermarket.
Canads does not have free health care. Most companys pay for employees medical service plans. People who dont work are covered by the tax collected from working people.
"People who dont work are covered by the tax collected from working people." - this is what "free healthcare" is. Healthcare should be available to everyone and financed via taxes. These taxes I'm willing to pay and, honestly, everyone should.
@@ascotbailey-tv5088 so it's not free if someone is paying for it.
@@nemonucliosis if you drill down to the origin anything - there is nothing "free". But in this context it's considered "free". Socialistically free.
@@ascotbailey-tv5088 so you're in agreement that it's not free. Thanks!
Canada’s healthcare: “Giving Birth? Go home” - based on a story of something that happened recently
Anerica’s healthcare: “yea we’ll help you, but it will be costly”
more like “but it’ll cost your house” 💀
@@milaliah don't buy sh*t insurance
A secret that everyone knows but nobody talks about.... the bill that the hospital sends you is their "wish list". If they get any of that amount paid they're thankful, and if you pay 20% they practically send a sexy nurse to your house to give you a complimentary sponge bath.
Bruh
@@jgwill Just like the hospital bills medical insurance is overpriced, especially the premiums.
honestly in canada you have to wait a solid 20 minutes (from the Canadian province im from) and dont charge much for example from what i know its 45 dollars for an ambulance
in america after they check you yoiu need to paid before any curing
This is the same is Australia my mum was literally dying and it took they 4 hours to come and do nothing and leave for 2 hours and give her a jelly cup finally after the entire 6 hours they finally helped me
I live in Kingston Ontario Canada. If I wanted to see my family doctor all I have to do is call in at 8:30 am when their phone lines open, and I can have an appointment that day. And no I don't have to pay anything for it.
You paid it in taxes already.
@@joycesamuel5065 When all costs are taken into account (e.g. taxes, insurance rates, out-of-pocket) Americans pay more for healthcare than any other nation. And without an appreciable increase in quality.
In America we have convinced ourselves that we will pay twice as much to a private insurance company if it means not paying half the amount in taxes.
@@MC-yt1uvservice is way faster ppl have died waiting to be helped
@@MC-yt1uvso you've never depended on the Canadian system?
emergency rooms are a nightmare in canada
Emergency rooms are a nightmare in the US.
I have wait 8 hours here in California and that’s at the good hospital now the bad ones I been there a full day sun up tell sun down
I live in California and my sister was pregnant and they took her in right away
try here in Brazil....Have you already watched walking death??
Hahah, probably filmed this while he was waiting for the doctor. Good old Canada, eh?
I woke up to unbearable pain at 2 am. I called 811 and was triaged by a nurse who suspected kidney stones. She called ahead to the hospital so would expect me. It took less than 10 minutes for me to be in a hospital bed, painkillers. Doctor saw me at 6 am, had all my tests and prescriptions, home at 4 pm. Total cost: $0. Even the parking was free. I live in Canada. Yes, things are bad in ER, we are experiencing physician and nurse shortages like most of the world.
At least in the US you get the option to get health care. In Canada fell on my shoulder and i was crying in pain, friend drove me to the hospital. 6 hrs later i finally got a x-ray and the doctors said that there was nothing obviously wrong, to follow-up with my dr in a week. Thing is my dr retired and i have been on the wait list for 8 months at the time. A week later still couldn't move my arm couldn't lean back, couldn't lie down, couldn't work or cook or really sleep, dressing myself took hrs. Went to see urgent care, urgent care told me to go to the ER, another 6 hrs or so at emergency another x-ray doctor still didnt know what was going and said to go see my doctor. Went back to urgent care they said the couldn't help me. Doing all this back n forth I'm shaking and crying in pain. Friend finally said f this, two days driving my friend brought me to the city where her cousin worked as a nurse and she finally got seen by a doctor (that had to put me on more wait lists to see specialists but at least he acknowledged something was wrong).
So, what was, is wrong with your shoulder??. U left us hanging 😮😮😮😢😢
So glad to be Canadian.
Health care isn’t free here, you still pay a lot for it in Taxes.
@@elyuko293 Health care is a basic human right, so that is sad.
😂 Yeah right. I got my shoulder and elbow injured and the best they can do is give me tylenol, no xray or whatever.
@@elyuko293 In the US we pay more for healthcare, we are just giving it to insurance companies instead of the government.
Americans are the only people proud to pay more for healthcare because they are scared of the word socialism.
@@lesliemccormick6527BaSiC hUmAn RiGhT....
Still doesnt change the Tax comment lib
Haha....so accurate on both!
Here in the US I recently had to wait 6 months to see a doctor as a new patient. Didn’t get seen until over an hour past my appt time. As I was waiting, another woman was very upset to find out how much she’d have to pay for some scans they did on her. Said she couldn’t afford it and she had insurance. My eye drops are $1,900 every three months and I have insurance. We have the best healthcare but most Americans can’t afford to get it.
Blatant lies. If you waited 6 months, you didnt bother to find a quicker appointment. And no, your eyedrops are not $1900 every 3 months (that would exceed the maximum OOP as outlined by federal law).
You lie to strangers online to pretend you’re a victim. Seek psychiatric help.
i work in a medical office. the lights in patient rooms go off if no one is moving inside. i tell people wave their arms around like octopi from time to time because the wait can be a bit before the doctor comes in lol.
Was scheduled for a surgery to get rid of a kidney stone in Etobicoke. Waited about 5 hours only to be told that I have to come back tomorrow for my surgery.
He paid for the paper he sat on in usa $5000 😂
Use the water fountain? That's another 3k
Not funny
We wait a while in the US also 🤣
Then That Means Canada Wins.
But, we get the privilege of helping the CEO of an insurance company buy a yacht.
We've been waiting longer and longer BECAUSE we keep getting pressured to be more like other countries.
@@faithrb01 yeah, side effect of the ACA meant more people actually got insurance that covered "pre-existing conditions." more usage=longer lines. but on the flip side, the ACA made it so physician owned hospitals can't expand and doctors can't start or take over hospitals, so private equity runs things more for profit, prioritizing the most profitable conditions for the people most able to pay. rich get treated, poor get streeted
Not even close in wait times lol
You missed the part where the canadian books an appointment for the next available appointment.... a month from now
that's pretty normal for my part of the US. would be several months for a specialist. some specialists are booked up to a year in advance. it's basically because I live in an area where everyone can actually afford healthcare, as compared to one of the places where people just use street drugs for pain or die 'cause they can't afford treatment.
@@thatJackBidenTalksAbout yea its rough in the states but im talking about booking a month or more to see a general practitioner. Speciallist you could be on a waiting list for upwards of a year if they dont forget you
@@brunorbattlehammer yeah, that's what I was saying. I usually have to book a month ahead for my PA - not even a full on GP, a physician's assistant. dermatologist is about 2 or 3 months in advance, cardiologist...not worth the wait + cost 😂 was supposed to be something like $300 for the cardiologist, just for him to probably say "cut back on the caffeine and beer"
I’m arabic Canadian citizen and once i was working in the United States for couple of years and for the first time i had to go to the hospital they ran diagnosis on me in no time with a great clean facility and respectfully customer service and adding more without telling me anything they walked me out and they send me a 100💲 dollars bill to my home mailbox and it wasn’t strictly that i have to pay it , it was like optional in Baton Rouge Louisiana I paid with much respect and gratitude. Not like when i came back to Canada i had to wait in the emergency room for 12 hours to go in until i shouted at them and they got me what i wanted and it was a simple thing how insane is that . There’s no comparison Canada needs to grow up with the huge tax dollars we pay we deserve better healthcare system-- other wise allow people and professions to open private clinics.
In my area in Canada 99% of the time in the emergency room the wait time is usually like 8 hours but I have seen it go up to 11 hours, in fact someone I know who needed help got better treatment in the ambulance than the Hospital because the wait time was like 9 hours.
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦free health care legal pot but the wait is ridiculous
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LOL. Thankfully I'm a patient guy
ha very good!
You better be. What other option do you have in Canada?
@@TrudeausBlackFace At least you have the option, unlike USA retarded healthcare system.
@@foreignfat6009 Not retarded. If you have a job, you can pay for your own healthcare. If you're a slob, you get no healthcare. I like that system & I'm a Canadian.
@@TrudeausBlackFace - Same in The USA.
Bruh Canadian healthcare is free oc it’s better
😂 it’s not free
As americans, We should protest to get free healthcare.
Nothing in life is "for free".
@@milan51259 What I also learned that the U.S. puts a lot of emphasis on healthcare & Canada on Immigration.
Just did self pay at an Advent Walk in clinic in Orlando yesterday. Its $318 now. 2 mins with the "doctor"
Over the last few years, I've had congestive heart failure, a heart attack, three abdominal surgeries, lens implants in both eyes,emergency surgery for a blocked stomach and have literally spent months in the hospital here in Canada plus there were hundreds of follow up visits to doctors over the years. The cost to me was $0.00, zero, nothing, nada. A few times I did have to wait hours in the emergency room, althought not for the serious emergency stuff. I would not trade the Canada medical care system for the lousy USA one ever. You would have to be crazy just to live in the USA.
What city was this ?
@@TP-yw6hj Halifax, on the east coast.
@@dorfone You are lucky. In Ontario it takes years to see a specialist and then years to get surgery. To see an actual doctor in the ER is usually a 16 hour wait and it often does NOT result in getting help, they just give you a band aid temporary solution to get you out of there as quickly as possible. Immigration has totally destroyed Ontario. I hope it doesn't come by your way because it will hurt your province in ways that are not repairable.
@@TP-yw6hj Our wait time are very long here too, unfortunately. Neither of our provinces are training enough doctors to meet the demand. The usual wait time for a doctor here is five to six hours in the ER unless it is an emergency. With the heart attack, congestive heart failure and the blocked stomach I was literally admitted to the ER in just minutes. But I recently waited eight hours to see a doctor after I broke a toe. I have nothing against immigrants. My doctor retired a couple of years ago and I was incredibly lucky because she found another doctor to take over her practice. He is an immigrant from Nigeria but trained as a doctor in the UK and he is great. Half the doctors at my local hospital are immigrants to Canada and so are many of the nurses and hospital support staff. The same is true in all the Halifax hospitals too. Without them I would be dead.
@@TP-yw6hj what the hell kind of specialist are you trying to book?? it's taken me maybe a month to see a specialist about my corneas and i was booked for surgery a month later and that was only because he wanted to see if a different treatment worked first. my sister only waited a couple weeks to see a cardiac specialist and was booked for surgery a week later. and this is in GTA.
In America, they want your credit cards BEFORE they even look at you.
Lies
lol no
Other than the ER, pretty much. The first procedure done is the wallet biopsy to decide how much you will be overcharged.
When I lived in the US, I always had to wait an ungodly amount of time for the doctor to show up. I don't know about Canada, but both the UK & Spanish national health services are at worst as slow, but usually considerably faster.
The UK's NHS is purposely inefficient so politicians can eventually privatise it. Canada's is slow because of bureaucracy and shortage of staff.
@@alimusawi100 Well, the NHS has those problems because it's chronically underfunded, but I know what you mean. Still, talk to Americans who have to rely on insurance & you'll find many of them also have long waits.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I never had to wait more than an hour for any appointment I can remember?
@@jgwill And in the UK & Spain, I've never had to wait as long as an hour. Except maybe (maybe) once when I had to go to the emergency room on a Friday evening.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I have never heard of anyone visiting European/Canadian health centers that never had to wait weeks or months to get appointments, and then wait hours at the appointment as well. Also, chronically underfunded means they need more tax money from you to pay for it right?
I live in the usa and even with an appointment i wait and wait for my doctor to show up. And it's costs a fortune as well.
but it’s like Canadian is better bc imagine ur dad died in the hospital and they were like “cAsH oR cReDit?”
u might be on to something
If you work a full time job and have decent benefits in the US, this isn’t a problem.
i think this is dafault for any country...here in brazil you can die in in the public hospitals...if you pay or have benefits like you said your life will be better...
Oh it very much is.
Those are two big "if"s, aren't they? Plenty of Americans have neither.
@@catbirdler if you have neither, your state has benefits to cover you.
Canada
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Canada....yes you need to wait but it's free. Allows people who do not have the means to pay to get seen by a doctor the possibility to do so at a cost of$0.00
It's not free. It is through your taxes. Your still paying 🙄
@@thecrittercouple523 “Free at the point of service” would be more accurate.
You live in one of the RICHEST countries in the world. Why can't you afford to pay for healthcare?
You'll wait either way.
The main reason why hospitals are so expensive is because the companies that produce the machines and equipment used in hospitals markup the prices of their equipment by 10s of thousands. I have spoken to some laboratory technicians who work with biopsy samples from patients and one of their machines had broken. They said the price for a replacement was $40000 but upon seeing what it was, I was pretty sure it could be built for no more than $3000 and a few days work
I waited in an Arizona ER room for 12 hours, finally my appendix ruptured, I almost died. I had no insurance.
oh my god...thas is crazy
That's America! You want treatment? You better pay up! If ya can't, you wait for ages or worse you get dumped in the back alley.
Canadian Healthcare:
-Hey, doc, I've been worried about this pain in m...
-Have you considered MAID?
*Have you considered SSRI’s and mutilation?
American Health Care Hey just go And Sit Down and I will Check you also United States health care is better and More Cheaper go to United States
You may wait in Canada, but at least everyone can see the doctor. The US, you wait, pay out the ass, and those who can't afford it (and don't qualify for free or low cost coverage) don't see a doctor at all. 🤷
That or they have to pay a 500k in medical care and are now in debt
@@MarcusCollins69 exactly.
I have never paid a penny over $100 for anything medical related in New York lol my daughter broke her arm and the ambulance ride was $47
@@Brandenuzis Wow, you have decent health insurance{not BCBS). I've read where people have used Ubers instead of ambulances because of astronomical ambulance bill.
Lmao the average wait time is 25.6 weeks
Realistically the Canadian guy should have been a skeleton in the wait room to illustrate how long you have to wait to even be SEEN by a doctor and the chances of getting a good doctor is slim to none. In the US you get seen that day.
@Sadi Masochist - No, in The USA you do NOT get seen that day. You Canadians have a misguided concept of The USA’s healthcare system.
@@thegreypath1777 You 100% get seen that day by a physician or a doctor especially if you're paying for it That's not the case in Canada You're waiting months to get an appointment just to be seen. Canada's " free " healthcare is so bad that now they're offering to assist suicide people since paying for their medical with that " Free " healthcare seems to be a lot harder than previously advertised
Uh, which part of America do you live in? Whenever I call the doctor's office they ask what time next week works for me.
If you need a specialist in the US, you *might* get seen in a few months. If you live somewhere with a lot of old folks who have medicare, good luck even getting an appointment at a clinic. And all for the low, low price of about $800 to $1200 less pay per month, assuming your employer even has to "provide" insurance.
Healthcare in America:
“Setting your broken arm will cost $27,000.”
Healthcare in Canada:
“Have you considered dying?”
Average wait time to see a doctor in an E.R. anywhere in canada is about 6-10 hours.
People in the comments are under estimating the wait times in Canada. If you go into Emerg in ontario with lets say a broken bone, your looking at least 6 to 10 hours.
Canadians dont get free healthcare. They pay 30% of their income before they even get a paycheck. So really theyre paying more for inferior care.
Here in the US, my family pays about 1-2% of our income to total of health premiums and after insurance costs for a family of 5. About $350/month. If we lived in canada, we would be paying $7500/month whether we used health services or not.
Ya but since everybody is paying. The number will become smaller that's how division works.
Also with an added bonus you don't need to worried about your bill afterwards
Not to mention Canadians travel to the U.S. when they need specialized medical care or don’t want to wait 5 months for surgery with Stage 4 colon cancer, for example.
@@legalyaya12Not the case for me. I was diagnosed with colon cancer after a routine colonoscopy. Was referred the same day for lab work and had a CT scan the following week. Saw a surgeon within another week and had surgery 10 days later. Spent 3 days in the hospital and have had follow up scans. Everything was scheduled quickly and my out of pocket expense over the last 2 years has been $0.
it's not inferior, just used more, so there's a slight wait.
it's not $350, it's $350+ whatever an employer pays that could be paid to to the employee instead - my COBRA from one place was $1,200/month after I left, which meant my employer was paying another $800 they could have paid me instead.
and then there's the $2000 deductible, the copays for every visit, the prescription costs for every fill...
if it was paid for by taxes, the state can use economy of scale to make big guaranteed purchases, rather than insurance and clinics nickel and diming us at every turn
“Doctor, my arms really hurts!”
Canadian Doctor: “Hmm, would you like to try euthanasia?”
Patient: "Doctor, my arm really hurts!"
American Doctor: "That sucks, hopeful it gets better. That will be $200."
The irony they can euthanize. But some guy does what they do to depressed people and he is a killer. Make it make sense
When I moved to Canada, after my first visit to a clinic I wasn't really sure about free medical system and asked the lady in the waiting room "do we just go out the door after seeing the doctor...?" and she was like "Um... What eles do you do...? lol"😂 Her face looked like I was asking the most weird question of the century.
LMAO, I regularly wait a couple hours at most doctor appointments in the US and pay through the nose to do so. Gladly change for waiting without masive debt
American here: You have this dissolution that Americans don’t have to wait to see their doctors - you are wrong. You could duplicate the same waiting time as the Canadian in your film. Handing over all of your credit cards at the end is accurate though, for Americans.
yup. anywhere where most people can afford care is going to be booked up long in advance. anywhere that isn't...people just aren't going 😕
Love the ending..well done!
Take care and stay healthy 🇨🇦❤️🤒
Show the one where you're diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and then can't afford the medicine in the US version.
And then show the one where you have that same form of rare cancer, and then you just kiss your butt goodbye because you're in the canadian health care system and you know you'll be dead by the t8me they get around to you.
@N Never heard of that
@@Cavachonc777 Where does he shop and what kind of savings are we talking about?
Last time I went to Doctor here in Canada, after waiting hours and hours he sent me for an Ultrasound, then to a Specialist with a 1 year waiting list. Finally just fixed the problem myself. What a joke!
India Is Full of doctors.
8 dollars for x ray.. 50 dollars for MRI.
5 dollars for a consulting doctor. THIS avarage for all over India.
The same day you can get an appointment for orthopedic, neurology, or MD.
India health care is very cheaper.
You have to pay hell lot of taxes in Canada.. and so much long waiting times
@Royal Family - You have to pay high medical bills in The USA, and you STILL have long waiting times
The grass is not greener on the other side. Switzerland and USa has the highest expense in Healthcare and still there is equal wait times.
@@thegreypath1777 isn’t it shorter than that in Canada?
For MRI, canada wait time is 1 year