Wes completely humiliated him self, Andrew just added to it. He was flexing knowing this fight wouldnt happen, because all these men would stop it, cowardly. Its a debate, not a prison yard. Speaking of which, he needs to use his head and realize that prison mentality is not real world outside. Outside people will shoot his punk butt for trying to assault them. Also wearing tighty tights with ripps, like a snotty high school girl, and being all emotional and not in self control, while questioning Andrews masculinity was insanely ironic. Wes has zero self awareness. Lets not even talk about his voice, like his nuts shrunk to near nonexistance from all the steroids.
Wes seemed to have changed gears when andrew mentioned he had a gun. That was where I noticed Wes toning it down. Even his body language--getting up, taking a big step in, then a step back; jittery legs. New territory for Wes.
“Prison politics” aren’t the best way to live by. Any “real alpha” would realize that the prison lifestyle isn’t worth it compared to being successful in the free world. Prison is a rigged system that keeps people down. I’m sure we all know how the interaction between Wes and Andrew would go differently in prison, but “normal people” in the outside world don’t have respect/ care for the prison lifestyle and “the scariest prisoners. People in the civilized world view “alphas” in social dynamics as the one who can dominate with superior intellect and social intelligence. Hence why most people are siding Andrew.
I think people should side with Andrew. He won the debate. The issue I'm trying to point out is the WHY behind Wes's mentality. Its really hard to get over that once it becomes part of your personality.
A lot of prisoners who were feared and respected in prison folded like a cheap suit once they got outside. There is nothing glorious to be in prison. People who take care of their families should be celebrated and not criminals who got there by hurting others.
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 - Looks like you still have the same dumb prision mentality and you never learned your lession from being locked up. I get that it's "ingrained" as you say or learned behavior that you have to overcome, but most of us learn by the end of our teen years, that you do t mess with people because you never really know who you are dealing with. By the time you are in your mid to late 20s the thought of physically fighting someone isn't even a though, because most people are trying to build a life and they do want to derail it by getting on the radar of the criminal justice system...basically having way too much to lose over b.s. So after being behind bars where your freedom was severely restricted, why are you assaulting people because you "didn't like the way he was talking to me?" It makes no sense. You have to know that out here in the real world we can call the police and your ex-felon ass will be right back behind bars...or there are lots of us out here who are armed and will put your tough guy act of thinking you can put you hands on others into nonexistent in a fraction of a second no matter how many muscles you have. Basic survival skill in the "real world" is keep your hands off others, or go back to prision or end up in the ground, it's that simple.
Wes is the biggest "Ef A Gee" I've seen in awhile, he probably did get "R'd" in prison. Probably why he's so butthurt over someone having a differing opinion. Lol
The only setting where Wes's mentality is effective is jail/prison. I have friends and family members who've done time and they don't act like 5th grade bullies. Andrew told him right. In so many words he said if you slap me I'll be the last person you ever slap. He's jacked and shredded ..... not bulletproof
I agree. The mentality does not work out here. The problem is that it gets so engrained into your personality after being in there it's hard to change back to normal.
Yeah good thing Wes respects Andrew, (whooptie freaking doo) just don't understand why anyone would respect Wes or think anything he says matters after acting like such a child. Lmao
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 - In addition to him being a out right fraud, his prision record is all a lie as well. He was never a shot caller, he is a proven snitch, his didn't go to prision for being some big time drug dealer, and he was never on level 4 anything. Infact, he spent very very little time in the California correctional system. As a someone familiar with that world, I would think that you would be more interested in exploring and explaining his fabricated and exaggerated claims about his crimial and prision career so as to warn others that if he is lying about his persona (which he uses to sell gullible guys on his b.s. courses) then most likely what he is selling is a scam. Think of it as both good content for your channel and a service to the community at large, so that lost men don't get suckered by this loser Wes "roid rage" Watson.
Possibly yes. But when I was in there were so many loud mouth big guys like him. It would have been a funny situation either way. And yes someone like wes is way more likely to be involved in a stabbing on the yard. No doubt about it.
12:12 yeah but to be fair he did just try and punk him lol that definitely doesn’t help the stereotype, and I think he was valid to bring its up. If your going into business with someone and you see this guy get triggered that easily, that’s a liability
Andrew replied to being told he will be smacked by saying “do you usually attack armed men in Florida” gtfoh he would have been dropped as he should be in society bc you can’t just attack people over your little man ego
I think prisoners in america, at least, need to also remember that people outside of prisons sometimes have firearms. And just because you can use your brute strength to pick on the little guy inside, you have to worry about the little guy on the outside. Brawn still wont stop bullet 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The story about you and the guy that called the cops: I think some people are less afraid of cops, and more afraid of people like andrew* who are strapped and know their rights. You cant bully a bullet
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 and too many people hide behind physical threats because they're too sensitive. But that's what prison is for, where everyone can fight man to man yet no one wants to be there
@@Gairith Yeah, it sucks. That's whole thing about re integrating into society. There are rules that are the exact opposite of those things that you had to adopt inside.
But if Wes would’ve tried to hit Andrew, Andrew would’ve shot Wes and Andrew would’ve went home because you’re in Florida your ground protect your right and Andrew knew that because Wes is a felon. He’s not allowed to have a gun.
So a gun threat is backing down? I'm having a hard time understanding. So are you saying ex cons are bullet proof? What's with this prison fetishizing.? If you are longing for prison politics rob a bank and put yourself back in prison. Also you making yourself a victim by saying society will always see you as a prisoner. I also did some time. Not much. 4 years in prison and do you know how many times "society" has brought it up? 0 because I don't have the need to brag about it to "society". I don't make it part of my identity. It's nuts how some excons will make them selves the victim when they have a history of victimizing people. Oh another thing I don't know what prison you were in but in the one I was in white people weren't the only azzholes in a gang. There is plenty of forcing sexy time in prison. I don't know why you are pretending there isn't.
Wes completely humiliated him self, Andrew just added to it. He was flexing knowing this fight wouldnt happen, because all these men would stop it, cowardly. Its a debate, not a prison yard. Speaking of which, he needs to use his head and realize that prison mentality is not real world outside. Outside people will shoot his punk butt for trying to assault them. Also wearing tighty tights with ripps, like a snotty high school girl, and being all emotional and not in self control, while questioning Andrews masculinity was insanely ironic. Wes has zero self awareness. Lets not even talk about his voice, like his nuts shrunk to near nonexistance from all the steroids.
haha
😂😂😂😂😂....100% facts!
He mocked them for looking like their mothers dressed them while looking like his boyfriend dressed him
Wes is gonna have a heart attack, dad bod squad is giving him problems...
Hahaha
Wes seemed to have changed gears when andrew mentioned he had a gun. That was where I noticed Wes toning it down. Even his body language--getting up, taking a big step in, then a step back; jittery legs. New territory for Wes.
Right. He does not want that for sure
Dang!!! The story hasn't lost any momentumm. Its everywhere
Yes, it has sparked a ton of reaction!
Dudes like a mental Wrecking ball to anything in front of him.
Watch his debates.
Best I've ever seen in arguments.
“Prison politics” aren’t the best way to live by. Any “real alpha” would realize that the prison lifestyle isn’t worth it compared to being successful in the free world. Prison is a rigged system that keeps people down. I’m sure we all know how the interaction between Wes and Andrew would go differently in prison, but “normal people” in the outside world don’t have respect/ care for the prison lifestyle and “the scariest prisoners. People in the civilized world view “alphas” in social dynamics as the one who can dominate with superior intellect and social intelligence. Hence why most people are siding Andrew.
I think people should side with Andrew. He won the debate. The issue I'm trying to point out is the WHY behind Wes's mentality. Its really hard to get over that once it becomes part of your personality.
A lot of prisoners who were feared and respected in prison folded like a cheap suit once they got outside. There is nothing glorious to be in prison. People who take care of their families should be celebrated and not criminals who got there by hurting others.
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 - Looks like you still have the same dumb prision mentality and you never learned your lession from being locked up. I get that it's "ingrained" as you say or learned behavior that you have to overcome, but most of us learn by the end of our teen years, that you do t mess with people because you never really know who you are dealing with. By the time you are in your mid to late 20s the thought of physically fighting someone isn't even a though, because most people are trying to build a life and they do want to derail it by getting on the radar of the criminal justice system...basically having way too much to lose over b.s. So after being behind bars where your freedom was severely restricted, why are you assaulting people because you "didn't like the way he was talking to me?" It makes no sense. You have to know that out here in the real world we can call the police and your ex-felon ass will be right back behind bars...or there are lots of us out here who are armed and will put your tough guy act of thinking you can put you hands on others into nonexistent in a fraction of a second no matter how many muscles you have. Basic survival skill in the "real world" is keep your hands off others, or go back to prision or end up in the ground, it's that simple.
Yet Wes says in response to this that he wasn't angry. The whole "you haven't seen me angry" or "tough love" type of sh*t.
Honestly I don't think he was angry. He just couldn't debate the guy
It's not prison
That's true
Wes is the biggest "Ef A Gee" I've seen in awhile, he probably did get "R'd" in prison. Probably why he's so butthurt over someone having a differing opinion. Lol
Nah bro. There are so many guys just like that inside
Yeah, R would make someone "butt hurt" 😅
The only setting where Wes's mentality is effective is jail/prison. I have friends and family members who've done time and they don't act like 5th grade bullies. Andrew told him right. In so many words he said if you slap me I'll be the last person you ever slap. He's jacked and shredded ..... not bulletproof
I agree. The mentality does not work out here. The problem is that it gets so engrained into your personality after being in there it's hard to change back to normal.
Such an interesting video and insight into the interaction. Thanks great video!
Thanks, glad you got something out of it
You don't workout obviously, he's on gear... just like people sneak cell phones and drugs in... I'm sure gear is no different.
This guy has martial arts experience though.
Yeah, I was thinking about that too. Either way there are a ton of HUGE guys in there
Yeah good thing Wes respects Andrew, (whooptie freaking doo) just don't understand why anyone would respect Wes or think anything he says matters after acting like such a child. Lmao
He is taking prison culture to the outside world it looks crazy
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 - In addition to him being a out right fraud, his prision record is all a lie as well. He was never a shot caller, he is a proven snitch, his didn't go to prision for being some big time drug dealer, and he was never on level 4 anything. Infact, he spent very very little time in the California correctional system. As a someone familiar with that world, I would think that you would be more interested in exploring and explaining his fabricated and exaggerated claims about his crimial and prision career so as to warn others that if he is lying about his persona (which he uses to sell gullible guys on his b.s. courses) then most likely what he is selling is a scam. Think of it as both good content for your channel and a service to the community at large, so that lost men don't get suckered by this loser Wes "roid rage" Watson.
2:32 Damn I haven’t heard the term Heart check in so long lol
It's still alive and well on the inside, it's a thing
That’s how it is in prison , out here it’s a different world, that dude could have bust a cap on his ass!!
Yes. The rules are different
Just having a meltdown the way he did would never fly in prison. You have to have respect in there you don’t act like that he would’ve got stabbed.
Possibly yes. But when I was in there were so many loud mouth big guys like him. It would have been a funny situation either way. And yes someone like wes is way more likely to be involved in a stabbing on the yard. No doubt about it.
Educational vid from 2 guys from different worlds. Lack of respect ruines a conversation .
Good point!
12:12 yeah but to be fair he did just try and punk him lol that definitely doesn’t help the stereotype, and I think he was valid to bring its up. If your going into business with someone and you see this guy get triggered that easily, that’s a liability
Yes, Wes basically IS the stereotype
Public image is different from GP
Thats true
Andrew replied to being told he will be smacked by saying “do you usually attack armed men in Florida” gtfoh he would have been dropped as he should be in society bc you can’t just attack people over your little man ego
True
I think prisoners in america, at least, need to also remember that people outside of prisons sometimes have firearms. And just because you can use your brute strength to pick on the little guy inside, you have to worry about the little guy on the outside. Brawn still wont stop bullet 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Good points all
Im 5'4 but im not scared of someone like Wes i have a gun. No matter how big he is he is not bullet proof
As adults, we are all required to adapt to our environments. I believe that Wes is an adult.
I agree
If you slap people and act like a 3 year old it's no wonder people will always know that you didn't learn anything
Yeah, it doesn';t work out here
Inmate mentality doesn't work in the real world. Wes is finding that out
SO true
I did 4 years in rykers I would love to have a guy like that in my cell I doubt he was that comical in jail
Wes would be a nightmare celly for mw
The story about you and the guy that called the cops: I think some people are less afraid of cops, and more afraid of people like andrew* who are strapped and know their rights. You cant bully a bullet
I think too many people hide behind guns because they can't fight man to man.
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 and too many people hide behind physical threats because they're too sensitive. But that's what prison is for, where everyone can fight man to man yet no one wants to be there
@@Gairith Yeah, it sucks. That's whole thing about re integrating into society. There are rules that are the exact opposite of those things that you had to adopt inside.
Nah Andrew calmly replied, do you call out Armed men. Wes heard it and clicked as anyone would.
That is a good thing
Wes watson is a Southpark character 😂. Don't try to justify his idiotic behavior.
haha
It’s a prison mentality not a world mentality and the fact he considers himself a leader and people follow him is scary and pathetic
Yeah people look up to guys like him. Certain people really do
But if Wes would’ve tried to hit Andrew, Andrew would’ve shot Wes and Andrew would’ve went home because you’re in Florida your ground protect your right and Andrew knew that because Wes is a felon. He’s not allowed to have a gun.
That would have been ugly
So a gun threat is backing down? I'm having a hard time understanding. So are you saying ex cons are bullet proof? What's with this prison fetishizing.? If you are longing for prison politics rob a bank and put yourself back in prison. Also you making yourself a victim by saying society will always see you as a prisoner. I also did some time. Not much. 4 years in prison and do you know how many times "society" has brought it up? 0 because I don't have the need to brag about it to "society". I don't make it part of my identity. It's nuts how some excons will make them selves the victim when they have a history of victimizing people. Oh another thing I don't know what prison you were in but in the one I was in white people weren't the only azzholes in a gang.
There is plenty of forcing sexy time in prison. I don't know why you are pretending there isn't.
Hey man, look, I'm glad you have had a better time of it re-integrating into society. That has not been my experience.
Just cause you didn't take it up the backside doesn't mean someone didn't get it from the front, a lot of zesty dudes out here.
Thats gross but thanks for the comment?
@@unlimitedfreedom6500 Facts are facts my guy, There's a lot of zesty things that go on in prison.
Wes has only been to a level 1 dorm and it wasn't even in California. Dudes fake af
I didnt know
Boi don’t nobody believe them lil ass jail stories stay on topic
Really? I thought it was relevent to my topic. All good
Ex-felon. Lmbo.
Thanks for checking it out