Pappy Van Winkle 20 year | The Bourbon Guild Review Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode we review the elusive Pappy Van Winkle 20 year. Check it out to see what we think!
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Like many things in life , the hunt is better than the catch.
One of your best videos yet! Who wants to see the Guild and Sir Dillon do more blind taste test videos?
Was able to get a bottle anytime I wanted from around 2008 to 2011 in a Northern VA ABC store near Herndon for a tad under $110 a bottle. Probably have had about 10 to 12 bottles overall. Was always a choice between a great 15 to 20 year Scotch or this Bourbon. It became popular and slowly impossible to get. I think my last bottle was in 2014 where I got on the lottery list and received a call that my name was drawn. Always thought it was all about its smoothness for me, went down easy, reminded me of rock candy. Not the best tasting bourbon, but really mellow and smooth. For me, it does not live up to the current hype, but it is a good Bourbon and was worth the $100 price tag. Cheers to you guys for an honest review.
i had this alongside the 15 and some other unicorns and I also did a wow on the nose. Interestingly, I was once in a talk with Jimmy Russel and he chatted a little bit on how he felt about oak and age. His view is that 14 years is about the sweet spot for aging before the oak either goes neutral or in some cases starts to take over the balance. Pretty interesting stuff.
This week I bought a few cheap 250ml Bourbons and did some taste comparisons. I'm excited to start my bourbon journey and just want to thank you guys for being the push I needed.
Amazing video as always. Happy to support!!
My mentor and officiate at my wedding brought a bottle of Pappy 23 year, we along two other close friends shared a glass during my reception overlooking the lake...it was an amazing day and fantastic bourbon...sunshine in a bottle.
Im tired of inflated bourbon prices. Especially for overhyped average bourbon
I much prefer not well known yet delicious bourbon...
Pappy van Dillion sporting his matching jacket to the bottle satchel is absolutely marvelous!!!
$300 large maybe a great deal but ouch! Ya’ll rich yo.
Rating is spot-on. I had the 2014 and remember telling the bartender "if I was in a nice bar in KY, and asked for a smooth bourbon, I would expect it to be like the Pappy 20". Nothing extraordinary about it besides the secondary price.
Great review guys. I assume this is a 2018 bottling? I've had a 2018 23 and was very disappointed, whereas I've had other 23s and were blown away. Maybe 2018 was an off vintage. I have a 2016 20yr and loved it, but lots of batch variation IMO.
I have a bottle of 23 that I’ve had put up for about 5 years. Saving it for my retirement celebration. Looking forward to the moment.
You'll definitely enjoy it. Even with all the ridiculous hype, it's still pretty good. Cheers to your impending retirement!
I used to buy Pappy 20 year for 100 bucks and Pappy 15 year for 75 dollars. Good times.
I agree with Dillon. With a bourbon this hyped, it's virtually impossible to review it without bias. It's almost like you need to do Pappy and BTAC blind.
I’ve never clicked on anything as fast in my entire life.
I had a quarter finger of pappy (20 or 23, I don’t remember) at Leffot in NYC several years ago, and I just remember it sticking to my palate for eternity.
Excellent review and finally someone says we shouldn’t spent thousands on this bottle. Couldn’t agree more! Can’t wait to try the 15 year.
Keep the awesome reviews coming!
That jacket looks so velvety, Sir Dillon!
Sir Dillon! I love it! Where does he get those wonderful toys?
I'm only 2 minutes in and I can't stop laughing at Dillon. Looking forward to the rest!
Cheers!
Maybe a blind test between the Pappy 15, 20 and the Weller 107 or 12 year?
Bias is a potent force. I'll bet my left nut that if this was blind, the scores would be lower. Henceforth, any bourbon that you guys try that is over $80 should be selected by your "producer" and you should taste it blind. It's the only way to get truly accurate scoring. Also, it would be fun to see your reactions upon the reveal.
Kiwi Wandering USA been saying this same thing for a while. Agreed 100%
I think they actually underscored it from bias with them having expectations in the clouds instead of just going at it blind
As polite as possible; Pappy is still the Holly Grail of bourbon.
I'd like to see a condensed version of a 3 month or more open bottle review from you guys. Quick 5 minute update. Not just pappy but all the higher proof Bourbons.
Always interesting content folks! keep it up!
On this episode of the Burp-un-guild... Jules and Ben mix things up. Sir Dillon makes an appearance and says "stewed fruit". Dutch's nose experiences a miracle. What would the scores have been if NONE of you knew what you were tasting? I think if I ever get the chance to buy one I will go with the 15 yr. Thanks for a "shocking" episode guys. I really needed it after the week I have had at work. Astute viewer out!
Dillion’s Gamer Tag must be Stewed Fruit 69
It would be cool to see you all pair it with the pappy van winkle cigars
A hard follow after Sir Dillion, maybe Ben Richard should have use 'Butcher of Pappy Field'. But I understand because I passed on a Van Winkle 12 even at $99, because sometimes you just can't drink hype. Cheers gentlemen on another great review!
I just got Tops bubble gum from old forester rye. Never thought I’d hear anyone say that until now,. Funny.
Do you guys think this is better than George T Stagg 2018? Just opened my first bottle of it yesterday and it is amazing!
Thanks guys for the review, funny and informative as ever.
I think I can officially stop hunting this white elephant without regret. For the hype going on, this shit should blow the mind of every Bourbon lover sooo hard, but it obviously doesn't. I will go for Weller 107 instead, and one day, I'll get a George T. Stagg below 500 bucks. cheers
Can you guys do a blind test between the Weller Special Reserve, Pappy 15 and the Pappy 20?
I miss The Bourbon Guild. All credit for them helping me cut my teeth as a bourbon enthusiast, but I really wish they would come back at some point. So much left undone!
Sir Pimp Daddy Dillon! - Love it! Seems like Dutch and Dillon continue to provide good insight.
Ben - Seems disingenuous...like he's just pandering to the trolls and haters by purposely scoring it low. Same score as barely-4-year old EWBIB? JB Repeal? LAZY-F-ing-River? Give me a break. Sure, this is waaaay overhyped but ben's reasoning is ridiculous.
We need more Mr. Dillon...to drop the hammer and call out the BS!
Don't blaspheme up in here! Just kidding, the 12 is my favorite by far. 2nd fave is the Weller 12. Jus sayin...
Good job guys. It's great to see people opening and enjoying these.
That's what we do!
Yeah if you already have videos ready release two a week. We need more!!!!!
My only gripe with you guys is only one video a week!!!
I agree! two videos a week!
More Blind Tasting Themed or Definitive Guides
Hey Bourbon Guild, is woodford batch proof your favorite bourbon? If not what’s your favorite?
I love the 10 year the best!
Blind taste test - Wild Turkey 101 Vs Pappy. Fight of the century with Ben as the Ringmaster! THAT would be interesting.
I bet if you revisit the bottle after a month your opinion could change. Hard getting a read from the neck pour
I had the opportunity to drink a glass of Pappy 23 at my uncle's house on Christmas eve a few years ago. He waited until everyone else left and it was only him, my dad and me. They poured me a glass with 1 large ice cube inside. They taught me the "Kentucky chew". To smell it first then take a drink and hold it on your tongue. It was the best whiskey I've ever had! My dad also had a few bottles of Old Rip Van Winkle 12 year at his house we drank a few times.
I have had it a couple of times and sold a couple of bottle so unless you got dam lucky and won a lottery at liquor barn like I have or whatever you didn't buy that for $300. It goes for $1800 easy, I've sold a couple of 15 year for $1300 each instantly . I've made some good cash from those bottles. Love the channel and watch all the vids. thanks.
Would love to see a blind re-review on some of these.
Dave McElroy that’s tough for them. They might lose their creditability if they rate it too low.
Looks like Crown Royal at the first sight :P
If I buy a shirt, can you send me a sip of this in a ziplock bag
I got lucky and had 23 at bar for $78 for double pour and $50 for 20 y.o. liked 23 more
Habe gerade deinen Kanal gefunden. Ihr Jungs seid toll! Ich liebe Sir Dillon!
I’m a fan of the 15yr over the 20yr. However, the 20yr is still a very nice bourbon...not worth the high secondary pricing that it goes for, but you got it for a fair price.
Thanks for being honest!!!
I don’t know that jacket really calls for a pipe more than a cigar...
Never had pappy but just a little rye goes a long way.
I agree with Ben's score. I drank a "Pappy's Flight" at OBC Kitchen in Lexington, KY about a month ago. The flight consisted of ORVW 10 year, VW Lot B, and the 20 year Pappy. By far, the Lot B is the best of those three. Don't get me wrong, I would buy any bottle of Pappy's or VW line at retail or slightly over, but would prefer to buy the Lot B over the three I have tasted.
How dare you threaten to throw The Butcher of Bakersfield off the Guild! Never had a Pappy, maybe I will buy a pour one day. I don’t think it can hold up to the mythical status, nothing can. Cheers fellas! Great job as always! 🥃👍
Cheers!
Love yalls differing opinions on this
Great review guys, I'll get my hands on a bottle of Papa one day. I may lean towards the 12 or 15 year after this review as I prefer more sweet and creamy.
I wondered if anyone would pick up on "stewed fruits"!! Local store has a bottle at $1800 and it's still there.
Ouch!
I'd really like it if you changed drinkable into smoothness. I really don't like you pay for a bourbon that bites your pallet. Or if you discern the difference between drinkable and smooth
I think this bottle is much better after it had been open for a week or so. It was very oaky upon opening, too much so, in my opinion. A week or so later that heavy oak scent had dissipated some what and the flavor became much more enjoyable.
Honestly, I think most bourbons over 15 years old have gone pass the sweet point and take on too much of the wood/oak flavors. I believe most distillers will blend newer stuff with the old to combat strong wood flavors. With bourbon, older doesn't necessarily translate to better tasting bourbon. Its not scotch.
I'll pile on. I've had a bottle of PVW 20 and the nose is world class. The palate and finish, however, were unpleasantly overwhelmed with bitter oak. The nose was worth the 2014 $120 MSRP, but I wouldn't pay $30 to drink it. Maybe it was the 2014 vintage. OTOH, Van Winkle 10, 12 and 15 all day long. Wonderful stuff.
A comment like this that refers only to generalities and provides zero specific examples is useless!
@@jv-kg1nb My comment or the other following? Be specific!
Wow shocking. 🤘🤘☝️✌️
You mentioned at $300, it isn't worth it. Do you feel it's worth the MSRP?
Yes, even if just for the experience of sharing it with other whiskey lovers.
HOW TRUE!!
Good for Ben.
Whatever the juice, you guys are awesome. Where can I get a velvet smoking jacket like that? #SirDillon
Tishna Asim Dillon is hands down the best part of the show. Too entertaining.
Can we get a Dillon T Shirt?
Agreed! Where is that shirt fellas?
Sir Dillon look like a proper pimp, lol
One of these scofflaws is not like the other!
whered you guys go?????????
TH-cam recommended me this video and I wasn't disappointed. One of the workers at the liquor store told me that the 15 is better for drinking compared to the 20.
Dilon looks like Yakuza
Ok. Ben, i think the pappy line is way over hyped, but you gave wild turkey 101 a higher score than pappy 20. SMH
He gave Store Brand Lazy-2 year-River the same score as Pappy 20. Ridiculous!
Each of my "few" Van Winckle experiences were very disappointing. I never felt this way about Weller's / Hirsch / "original" Noah's Mill etc. A few drops of 'ideal ' water can be a game changer - I only observed one of you with the inclination to do this = extra points to him.
The official bourbon of the Yakuza gangsters.
Tha's not Sir Dillion! That is either Pimp Dillion or Gay Mafia Dillion!
You guy gave Woodford Reserve batch proof so much higher score than pappy 20 ... wanna trade ???
WOW Style...I have tried both the Pappy 12 and the GTS 2018 alongside the Woodford Reserve Batch Proof and can readily say I now have 4 (yes four) bottles of the WRBP in my cabinet. While still hard to get, it's DELICIOUS and at a fraction of the price.
Purchased this for $169 at my local grocery store. Got the 15 for $99..... just randomly walked in and there they were.
What state do you live in?
Sammy Peddycord Minnesota
Can you provide a breakdown of all your ratings highest to lowest or do a video review of your top 5 or revisit your top 5! That would be awesome!
It is all about the Hype!!! On a blindfold test, some of you would pick a $20 Wild Turkey over this one.
SIR DILLON OMFG
LOVE Pappy, cherish Buffalo Trace, respect Sazerac, but... Focus on reviewing bourbon that we can ACTUALLY BUY!
My palate isn't developed enough, nor my pockets deep enough to entertain the idea of spending high double digits, much less triple digits and higher FOR ANY whiskey!!! Sorry to be so pedestrian
It seems like all of the internal doubt of biased or not could have been taken away if you did it blind for the first 3 topics.
Can anyone tell me what happened to Ben? I know the other 3 started another channel. I’m just “curious!”
Ben started a new channel! the butcher's block th-cam.com/channels/IAXJDJKhzNCF1cQter40GQ.htmlfeatured
@@LiebeNahrung probably a falling out with the other guys. Thank you for answering my question!
1:12 - "This here's velvet, not velveteen. A gentleman must learn the difference."
“Paz e Amor”??? Where are you guys?!
Dillion can trade pappy 20 for my weller 107 😂
This should be tasted in a blind test with Weller and other bourbons included.
I love SIR DILLON! Too funny. Ben looks sad drinking 20 year old pappy. Maybe he can review the younger bourbons and bring someone else to substitute for the older ones. People sometimes enjoy the bite of young bourbons over old so nothing wrong with ben not liking the older flavors. But maybe have someone else try the older ones to give their perspective.
You could be subjective if you did blind tastings/ratings then release what it is after.
Why didn’t you add a drop of water.
I'm with Ben on that score ..15yr is better .
Pappy is great bourbon, but there are $50 and $60 bottles right now that are as good or better. When I started drinking bourbon 25 years ago, Pappy was easily found sitting on liquor store shelves. This is why so many people own unopened bottles of Pappy...they know that when they open and taste it, they'll be disappointed for the price they paid.
WLW > Pappy
Pappy 15 > 20 and 23
I’ll take a BTAC over Pappy at secondary any day. Pappy is right there with BTAC with more age and less proof but WLW/GTS are better value, equal quality and equal prestige.
15 is the best balanced pappy
Why do people say that bourbon has an oak nose or sits on the pallet? ALL bourbon is aged in OAK barrels
Jesus Christ
First!
I prefer Old Rip vs 20 or 23 : /
Please take this comment seriously!! Since Jules basically doesn’t like any bourbon and loves this...and everyone else is just meh....you should let Jules have this to drink!!
I can’t understand why you don’t blind very bottle. Maybe have one guy know. I will never respect your opinions otherwise. BTW, I got to drink Pappy 20 last weekend and loved it but did I?