When I read the Title of your video I thought " Are you crazy ", but after listening to your reasons I understand why you want to sell it. Good luck with your new family machine. Be careful and have fun.
I’ve had one for a few months and I see its limitations on trails, but it I bought primarily as a farm vehicle that we occasionally have fun with, so I’m happy with it in that role.
@@teamderrickadventures230I have a family of 4. Turn off for me is I can’t use the bed with the rear seats up when working on the farm. I’m looking at the Polaris General 4 seater since the bed is a good size and also the new Honda 6 seater !
@@ariesnc6320 understood. If I had a farm I would have kept the Honda. I have a lot of land so I have a tractor. The general is awesome. If I was riding farm and trails I'd go general.
I just did the exact opposite. I loved the RZR and it’s capability has no compare as far as tough trails and hill climbing. My issue was it’s durability so I traded it for a 22 Pioneer 1000. If you don’t mind wrenching I think you will love the Polaris
The RZR had more travel. Also, parts for the RZR are more affordable. Last, my brother had a RZR and always handled the terrain better than other SXS. I have always wanted to take a talon on the trail though. I see more RZRs and more KRXs than anything else.
Remove the anti sway bar, and the wheels will stay planted much better when rock crawling. We have the 3 seat version and never feel like it's top heavy.
Thanks for the advice. However, I already sold it. I only ride with one person that took the sway bar off and he put it back on. He has a CF Moto though.
Simply I didn't know anyone that had one. My brother had a RZR and seemed to always handle the trail better than all other sxs in the group. It was on the list along with the Polaris general.
I Got the 2020 Honda 500 Pioneer. It Has ALL the Bells and Whistles Winch , 27x10x14 8 ply Super Swampers, This 500 Goes TOE To TOE With the Best of THEM. I'm NEVER Going in Water Deeper then the Floorboard or MUD, ROCK Crawling, Hill Climbing, WE Normally Go to FAIRFIELD BAY AR. Max Pines, and Moccassin Gap. Going to Mena Ar. Soon WOLF PIN GAP. l LOVE OUR 500 BLUE "T BUCKET".
I agree the Pioneer's are all top heavy and not very proportional. Seems like there's more roll cage than body. When towing my Pioneer 700, the trailer would rock from side to side, top heavy. I always thought it was the trailer that was the issue. I recently sold my Pioneer and bought a 2023 Yamaha Wolverine X2 and I noticed on my ride home from the dealer the machine and trailer didn't sway from side to side. The Yamaha is 4 inches shorter and also has a dry sump oiler which lowers the engines center of gravity. The down side going to a Polaris is reliability. You may experience a few break downs. Power is nothing when you're broken down in the bush. That's all I'm gonna say.
Trailers sway when the tongue weight is too light. I pull a 2021 Pioneer 1000-5 (plenty of add-ons, 30" tires on 15" wheels, etc.) on a 6.5x12 SA aluminum trailer and have absolutely zero sway issues.
@@bobbybarnes1652 I was referring to the SXS center of gravity which also affects the way it's trailered. Not side to side sway which is an indication of lack of tongue weight. Having owned bother machines, the handling in twisty turns on the X2 is far more stable (body roll) than the Pioneer. If your rock crawling, it's not an issue.
@@ve3xtr OK, but you literally said, "When towing my Pioneer ... I thought it was the trailer ... recently bought an X2 and noticed on the ride home from the dealer the machine and trailer didn't sway from side to side." Confusing.
Had it for a while now with no problems. It can go places the Honda could not. The machines were made for different things. A cat is not built to pull trailers. The Honda was not made to rock climb. Still a great machine. However, everyone I ride with has sold every machine they had and bought a RZR. They just do great in the rocks.
Never heard that before. Do you think that's just on the 5 seater that it feels tippy? I have a Yamaha Wolverine X2 but am thinking about selling it this summer and getting a Pioneer Deluxe 1000 3 seater. Yamaha new price increases have probably forced me away from an Yamaha R-max 1000.
5 seater will be worse. It depends on what you want the machine for. If Rock climbing, the pioneer will be top heavy. That plus the suspension will make it lean more.
@@teamderrickadventures230 Zero issues rock climbing in my P1K5, zero feeling of 'tippy'. I do have aftermarket tires & wheels (30" on 15"), upgraded suspension (SATV A-Arms, Fox QS3 shocks, and 1+1.5" spacers), so that def helps. Just got back from TN, going back in a few weeks for some more!
@@teamderrickadventures230 Ford is the #1 selling pickup and I’ve been let down by ford than any other brand! Just because there’s more doesn’t mean they’re better! Lemmings
Didn’t get mine to rock climb. So for us it’s great. Love the turf mode & six speed transmission. 👍
Yes, I loved the transmission also.
When I read the Title of your video I thought " Are you crazy ", but after listening to your reasons I understand why you want to sell it. Good luck with your new family machine. Be careful and have fun.
Yes, it was a great machine so I wasn't downing it. I appreciate the input.
I’ve had one for a few months and I see its limitations on trails, but it I bought primarily as a farm vehicle that we occasionally have fun with, so I’m happy with it in that role.
I agree. It is a dependable tough machine.
@@teamderrickadventures230I have a family of 4. Turn off for me is I can’t use the bed with the rear seats up when working on the farm. I’m looking at the Polaris General 4 seater since the bed is a good size and also the new Honda 6 seater !
@@ariesnc6320 understood. If I had a farm I would have kept the Honda. I have a lot of land so I have a tractor. The general is awesome. If I was riding farm and trails I'd go general.
@@teamderrickadventures230 Would you take general over a ranger 100 crew ?
@@ariesnc6320 personally I would get the general.
I just did the exact opposite. I loved the RZR and it’s capability has no compare as far as tough trails and hill climbing. My issue was it’s durability so I traded it for a 22 Pioneer 1000. If you don’t mind wrenching I think you will love the Polaris
Thank you. Hope it works out for both of us.
That's where I'm at, kingrider75. Kept the rzr, but sold the ranger for a pioneer.
CAN AM COMMANDER XT-P FOR ME. GREAT DUMP BED, LOCKING FRONT DIFFERENTIAL, TURF MODE AND MY 2004 SEADOO HAS BEEN GREAT FOR RELIABILITY.
Sweet
Yeah you won't work on the honda much, you'll be working on the polaris pretty regularly lol
Sorry you had to sell. I have the exact same machine. Question is, why didn't you go with the Talon instead of the Razor.
The RZR had more travel. Also, parts for the RZR are more affordable. Last, my brother had a RZR and always handled the terrain better than other SXS. I have always wanted to take a talon on the trail though. I see more RZRs and more KRXs than anything else.
Remove the anti sway bar, and the wheels will stay planted much better when rock crawling. We have the 3 seat version and never feel like it's top heavy.
Thanks for the advice. However, I already sold it. I only ride with one person that took the sway bar off and he put it back on. He has a CF Moto though.
Any reason you didnt consider the honda Talon?
Simply I didn't know anyone that had one. My brother had a RZR and seemed to always handle the trail better than all other sxs in the group. It was on the list along with the Polaris general.
I Got the 2020 Honda 500 Pioneer. It Has ALL the Bells and Whistles Winch , 27x10x14 8 ply Super Swampers, This 500 Goes TOE To TOE With the Best of THEM. I'm NEVER Going in Water Deeper then the Floorboard or MUD, ROCK Crawling, Hill Climbing, WE Normally Go to FAIRFIELD BAY AR. Max Pines, and Moccassin Gap. Going to Mena Ar. Soon WOLF PIN GAP. l LOVE OUR 500 BLUE "T BUCKET".
Glad you like it. Have fun!
I agree the Pioneer's are all top heavy and not very proportional. Seems like there's more roll cage than body. When towing my Pioneer 700, the trailer would rock from side to side, top heavy. I always thought it was the trailer that was the issue. I recently sold my Pioneer and bought a 2023 Yamaha Wolverine X2 and I noticed on my ride home from the dealer the machine and trailer didn't sway from side to side. The Yamaha is 4 inches shorter and also has a dry sump oiler which lowers the engines center of gravity. The down side going to a Polaris is reliability. You may experience a few break downs. Power is nothing when you're broken down in the bush. That's all I'm gonna say.
I noticed the same with the trailer. As far as the Polaris I know many ppl that have them and love them. Hope mine works out, so far so good.
Trailers sway when the tongue weight is too light. I pull a 2021 Pioneer 1000-5 (plenty of add-ons, 30" tires on 15" wheels, etc.) on a 6.5x12 SA aluminum trailer and have absolutely zero sway issues.
@@bobbybarnes1652 I was referring to the SXS center of gravity which also affects the way it's trailered. Not side to side sway which is an indication of lack of tongue weight. Having owned bother machines, the handling in twisty turns on the X2 is far more stable (body roll) than the Pioneer. If your rock crawling, it's not an issue.
@@ve3xtr OK, but you literally said, "When towing my Pioneer ... I thought it was the trailer ... recently bought an X2 and noticed on the ride home from the dealer the machine and trailer didn't sway from side to side." Confusing.
Sounds like operator issues not buggy issues.
Awesome opinion.
Did you end up getting a four seat razor?
Yes. I'll be posting a video soon. It's harder to get in and out of but smoother ride.
isn’t turf mode just an open diff….?
Yes. It's designed to make tighter turns without damaging your tires and/or your yard.
Like George Jones said......I've had choices. Enjoy your rzr brother. Get a tool kit tho. No kidding.
Had it for a while now with no problems. It can go places the Honda could not. The machines were made for different things. A cat is not built to pull trailers. The Honda was not made to rock climb. Still a great machine. However, everyone I ride with has sold every machine they had and bought a RZR. They just do great in the rocks.
Never heard that before. Do you think that's just on the 5 seater that it feels tippy? I have a Yamaha Wolverine X2 but am thinking about selling it this summer and getting a Pioneer Deluxe 1000 3 seater. Yamaha new price increases have probably forced me away from an Yamaha R-max 1000.
5 seater will be worse. It depends on what you want the machine for. If Rock climbing, the pioneer will be top heavy. That plus the suspension will make it lean more.
@@teamderrickadventures230 Zero issues rock climbing in my P1K5, zero feeling of 'tippy'. I do have aftermarket tires & wheels (30" on 15"), upgraded suspension (SATV A-Arms, Fox QS3 shocks, and 1+1.5" spacers), so that def helps. Just got back from TN, going back in a few weeks for some more!
Yes you can upgrade the suspension and make it better. They are nice too.
Should have bought a Talon. Next video is going to be, “ the razor was awesome but it was broken all the time!@ LOL!!!!
Hope not. I've seen more RZR on trails than any other. However, good luck I hope you have fun.
@@teamderrickadventures230 Ford is the #1 selling pickup and I’ve been let down by ford than any other brand! Just because there’s more doesn’t mean they’re better! Lemmings
@@roostercoggburn7436 there is a reason people keep buying them. It isn't because they are not any good. I like Honda too. I like them all.
@@roostercoggburn7436what Ford let you down, f-150? New one?