How to mix MASSIVE Rock Guitars with Ulrich Wild, Bob Marlette & Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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The best way to show you how to achieve a massive guitar sound is to show you the approaches of 3 different professional mixers/producers/engineers (including myself!).
The first 2 techniques are from Mixing Metal with Ulrich Wild & Warren Huart. Ulrich and I both mix the same song in two different ways! The third excerpt is by a very good friend of mine, Mr. Bob Marlette.
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Hi Friend, somebody recently asked me "how many guitars is enough on either side to create a large guitar sound?" The best way to show you how to achieve a massive guitar sound is to show you the approaches of 3 different professional mixers/producers/engineers (including myself!). The first 2 techniques are from Mixing Rock with Ulrich Wild & Warren Huart. Ulrich and I both mix the same song in two different ways! I mix in a hybrid fashion, so you’ll get to see some of the EQ & Compression that I do inside of the box, but you also get to see the EQ & Compression that I do on my SSL using Pro Tools. Ulrich mixed the same song, entirely in-the-box, in Logic! The third excerpt is by a very good friend of mine, Mr. Bob Marlette. Bob is going to show us what he does to get massive guitar sounds. It’s really cool. It’s not just the mix process. It’s additional production to make the guitars sound absolutely massive!
Thank you warren for giving us such well informed information! So many other channels feel like they are learning how to mix and giving us bad information while they learn!
Thanks ever so much!! That's very kind of you!
Thanks ever so much Mia! That is very kind of you!
Do you quantize instruments in Rock music?
I appreciate this video, but any tips on mixing normal sized rock guitars?
Monk Volcano less compression, focus more on pulling out any frequencies that are getting left out in the EQ. I’ve found that 2 tracks of gtrs panned 15L 15R usually gets it sounding nice
Super secret trick of the trade. Double the massive guitar with a ukelele. The human ear will square the difference and believe it is hearing a normal sized guitar
just take out annoying frequency always listening in context with all stuff, guitar must be muddy on harsh mid high freq
Subtle joke mate, very well appreciated! :D
the number of people that don’t get the joke worries me..
It's wonderful to see metal and hard rock guys use Logic.
Definitely Ian! - It just goes to show that you can use any DAW!
Also, you name dropped MJUC!!! I LOVE those compressors! Klanghelm definitely deserves some props!
Hi Ian, indeed! I lobe The MJUC! It's an amazing plug in!
@@cripesalmighty4744 That's right, you have no idea 🤣
@@cripesalmighty4744 they're all literally the same with outside plug ins... It's just about what you are used to navigating... Again, they're the same.
This is by far the best mixing video I have ever seen ! Thanks guys !
Amazing video as usual! Wonderful to see three professionals takes on guitar mixing and Production!
Thanks ever so much Apple!
Awesome guys, all of you! Thank you, I feel more confident that I'm doing the right thing now and gained some knowledge in the process
Fantastic as always, Warren. On a side note, I'd love to see a video (or videos) about preparing mixes for mastering. Topics might include final bounce formats, dithering, 2-bus limiting / max out level, etc.
i really apreciate how you take the time to answer the questions of your follows... it really talks about how a good profesional you are... hope my english is enough to you understand
Hello from St. Albans, WV. This is a video I've been waiting for! Thank you, Warren.
Hello Jim! - Happy to help! Thanks for watching my friend!
Great tricks here :) Thanks for sharing all this knowledge Warren! Looking forward to try them on my (home) productions. Keep on pls!
Hi Warren, thank you, Ulrich and bob for these glimpses into how you guys produce music that's massive and amazing. Top stuff, thanks again, your all excellent.
I cannot express how good stuff your videos are. That's a great job you're doing mate, keep it up. Many thanks!
Thanks ever so much Jaroslaw! That's very kind of you!
Great Video. I really enjoyed watching it. At some point I watched a tutorial on the topic of reverb. Unfortunately, I do not remember which one it was or who did it. It was very interesting, with examples of how to bring depth to the mix by using pre-delays and reverb and so on. There was mentioned that one should not use too diverse types of reverb in a song but look for the best suitable type and then keep it as main type for the track, unless it is a superficial effect reverb. Do you also have such considerations, for example, when you select the reverb that you put on the guitar track, or do you have a different opinion on this subject?
The Bob Marlette rock mixing videos are really good. One of my fav courses I’ve purchased.
Thanks ever so much
Muddy blahvellous! As usual you answer the questions before I even asked them. You rock sir!
Amazing tips. Thanks Warren to you and your guests!
Like always, excellent content!!!
Hi Warren, thanks ever so much for another highly informative video loaded with some excellent tips and technics from Ulrich, Bob and of course your very good self.
Incredible guitar production and amazing Drum sounds Warren!!
Thank you Darlene! - You Rock!
This is awesome, Thank Fellas. I realize now i want to Use a synth bass. It does make it nice and fuzzy in tone.
Very valuable and perfectly explained information!!! :)
Thanks! That was very interesting. I always loved what John Porter & Johnny Marr did stacking guitars on Smiths songs. The acoustic guitars on Well I Wonder sound huge. I guess it has a lot to do with different inversions played in conjunction with the production.
Thanks for the videos! Love the content, love the community. Lately I have been experimenting with taking two separate mono takes, pan them hard left and right, then "bounce" them to their own stereo track. Then process them. Kind of like what you do with a four track to get more tracks. Am I wasting my time? I have some interesting results, especially when I use a stereo EQ and treat each side slightly different. Has anyone else tried this?
I always enjoy listening. Warren, when you track guitars I know you have several favorite amps, or simulators to use. What is your everything tube amp? An amp you would choose to record any style or genre. Add pedals at will!
Trying to follow along in Pro Tools and applying some of your EQ's... oh man.. lol it sounds so good. Thank you!
Great video! The synth bass mix along with other guitar parts should be equalized like a regular bass with the bottom end or like a guitar? Thanks!
Amazing guitar mixing and production advice and incredible drums sounds!!!
Thank you Mia!
Hi Mia, the studio was Hybrid Studios in Santa Ana!
That was very helpful! Thank you Warren.
You're very welcome Mike!!
I love that groove like to hear the whole album.
The whole SnakeBite was great! Is that who you meant?
Wow, my guitars went from sounding like a struggling hack to a respectful professional in about 20 minutes of implementing all these EQ tips. I've watched a ton of videos on TH-cam that are in the ballpark but not enough specifics on the top-to-bottom needed edit frequencies like this. Thank you!
Thank you ever so much for this
Thanks ever co much Johnnie!
This is awesome!
Hello sir great video !!! Do you use different kind of reverb in a song ?...
Hi Warren! I noticed that both you and Ulrich have the outputs on your plugins (rverb, decapitator, UAD precision enhancer) set to around -4dB. Is this standard practice to maintain proper gain staging between plugins? It is something I didn't notice until now and I'm wondering if that is something I should start doing as well. Thanks for the great video!
going through you're videos is like plugin into the matrix and downloading through the back of the head
Great video, nice lesson! wow those guitar riffs sounds very similar to Collective Soul's "Counting the Days"
Best advice ever! Bob Marlette is amazing!
Bob is amazing! haha Very talented guy!
I love the Saliva records that BM made. Pure rocknroll
thx a lot, nice video!
As always "marvelous'!
Hey, love the vid!! Can you put a link to these songs please?
Top video cheers guys!
I don't understand what you did with the phase at 3:44 You said that the only thing that you did is to adjust the phase so the guitars can cut. That's just to adjust the phase of the guitars that where panned left and right? Have you got any video where you explain that?
Thank you for all, I did learn so much because of your channel.
This is a good video!
Bout to record and mix my new bands first album so watching this couldn't come at a better time
How did it end up?
What widener plugin would you recommend for messy, glitchy, bitcrushed, gated fuzzed bass guitar/guitar (for frequencies above 200hz)? Also have you tried the MdoubleTracker plugin?
I know this was a while ago. That amp hum, you can really hear in the Ulrich section. That would drive me crazy. Thank God for RX now-a-days
Thank You
i LOVED that epidsode :) no matter how many mixes i made till now... getting heavy guitars right it still very hard for me
Thanks ever so much Der Bommel!
Simply pan 100% right to get the guitars right.
Hi dude I’ve been struggling with heavy guitars for a long time too. I was wondering if you managed to figure it out and have any tips?
@@keegan6298 idk iam happy now i must say. some sounds simply suck and it is pure horror to make them fit into a mix. basically everything has to fit. Pickups, Amp, speaker and mic placement... i only use d.i. + helix native and a kemper now and IRs i trust. This gets the job done very fast. the right amount of poweramp saturation and the frequency distribution in front of the amp is crucial. the body rez pedal in front of an amp is a great way to dial in more or less mud ... and mud gets rid of fizz... more poweramp saturation will also get rid of fizz, it is hard to explain everything in a few sentences but idk maybe i make a video about everything i learned until now. Today i had to mix a song and i completely got rid of the recorded guitar even though it was a soldano, i only used the d.i. + helix native then. The best amp sucks if the cab, mic and mic placement and the instrument sucks, Today i only added a little low cut to my guitar and it is fat and sits in the mix ... that is not always the case but this combination worked very well
The Bommel thanks for the reply I’m miles behind on what your saying I don’t know what most hat equipment is. I’ll check out your channel
could you explain sonic difference to you of the ssl chl comp vs bus comp, and applications, is it more than just mono vs stereo thing
This video raised the question of how much does the artist allow the producer to change (or character) the recording to their own tastes(?). Adding fuzzes and octaves etc, even subtly, is quite a step..
Hey Warren! I wanted to ask you how does using more than one eq work on a track? I mean if you attenuate a frequency and then boost it again with another eq would the first eq matter at all? I’ve see many great engineers do this and I was wondering how it works. Thank you for all the great content love your videos!!
Thanks a million!
Thanks you ever so much Allan!
Hi Warren. What is that on the headstock of your bass guitar?
WOW..Very *IMPRESSIVE* but I want to ask, if I have two different rhythm guitars, should I pan them one track right and one track left or double them with two tracks and pan them different than what I did?!
Thanks ever so much AMB! It really depends on the section! Typically for a chorus I might double them and pan them, but use slightly different amp or pickup combinations to create width!
Produce Like A Pro Thanks a lot!😊💟
You're very welcome!
U Da Man Warren Huart! Stay awesome sir!
Scott Schiaffo thanks ever so.much!!
Warren, I hope you are doing marvellously well!
That was sweet, cheers!! Perhaps you could elaborate on the 'FU-tone'?
Thanks ever so much Jonas! What's the FU Tone? haha
@@Producelikeapro , sorry to drudge up old comment but he's referring to 6:11 (decapitator)... Jonas, decapitator is a clipper (distortion / harmonics). I personally hear it as adding more variation/movement to the sound. Example. If the sound were totally clean and you did a palm mute, it would go dead silent after the strings were muted. But if it's got a TON of gain, the guitar would feedback (if a real amp in same room as guitarist). To my ear the decapitator in this instance add some of that 'gargling' around the sound making it seem more aggressive, kinda like a harley davidson at a stoplight before it revs up again. Just how I hear it. Also more color/movement in the upper harmonics. More texture, less like a digital plugin of an amp. Gritty.
Great Video Warren. I have a question though. passive vs active pickups. Is there a difference in how you EQ them? I use the C4 as well,It's invaluable for heavy guitars. It's always on the "Andy Sneap" settings to control my "chugs" especially since I'm usually tuned down anywhere from A# to C#.
Hi Scott, wow, interesting question! For me it's more about how I shape the Amp sound! Using a Tube Screamer or the Nobel ODR-1 will help shape the low end.
Produce Like A Pro Thanks for the response Warren. I was just curious if the fact some actives had a slightly wider frequency band made a difference for eqing them or not. Nice live stream today enjoyed that a lot. Gave me a break from mixing my album lol.
Marvellous question! Yes! They often have increased bandwidth as well as output!
Awesome just awesome
amazing.. thanks
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Is Bob's tracks coming from "a place to call home" from Big Wreck?
I was surprised to see Warren EQ the first two set of guitars identically. Normally I would make them swap spaces in the frequency spectrum. That is, the frequencies I boost in one I cut in the other.
I suppose he does that because he's got many more guitars in the song to get busy with frequency wise.
What's the make and model of the monitors on the inside? Behind Warren...
No one ever tackles radiohead’s style. ...recording or mixing-wise... why not? I can’t figure them out for the life of me. I just know I chase that sound failingly. Haha. Anyway, thanks for all the good stuff, Warren. You’re awesome!
This is one of the most useful tutorials I've seen so far. bob especially stands out. One of those down to earth Blue Peter " here's one I made earlier by getting down on my hands and knees with a toilet roll and some sticky backed plastic". These kind of insights take away the witch craft and bring back ears and common sense for those of us that never remember numbers as we only produce when we write.
Gold nuggets here.
Thanks for posting this very useful video. I'd to ask you; It seems that somehow I merged/folded all tracks into one track in this song. How can I return this track into original track(s)??Thank you so much.
You're very welcome Cerebro! You can use the original files, or split them into mono tracks easily in Pro Tools. I'm not sure what DAW you use though?
Warren! Fantastic video once again! A perhaps unrelated question for you - what do you use that screen for that's mounted on your wall behind you? Thanks!
Marvellous question Roy! That is the screen for the SSL's automation!!
Aha I see! Thanks for that, helpful as always Warren keep up the good work!
Does the opposite pan do anything for two rhythm guitars playing the same thing or is it just adding volume to themselves?
Hi Joonas N great question! Two independent performances will add not just volume but width and interest to your mix, balancing both sides! Try it you’ll really like what it adds!
The discrepancies between the left- and right-panned guitar parts that were recorded separately are what creates the stereo effect. If you just copy the same track twice and pan it -100 and +100 it will sound as if right in the middle but louder than if there was a single track in the middle. When we hear any natural sound it travels differently to each of our ears, and reflects from different materials under varying angles. All that results in that our brain receives slightly different signals from each ear, having differences in both timing and frequencies. That's what we try to recreate when we record the same part twice
Hey i have a question.. im trying to cover Hollyann by boston and im using all the rockman gear but i cant figure the tone out !!!!
This might seem like a stupid question . But are guys using double tracked guitar and is it the same take stacked on top of each other with different tones
I like the analog tone much more I'm a new hybrid guy too and new altogether lol. But I love analog much more
Eddie Van Halen has a MASSIVE guitar sound and that was just one amp with a reverb panned to opposite side >>>> players skill, instrumentation and arrangement is paramount with additional production techniques for wider, more lush, orchestrated guitar songs 💥❤️💥 x
I’m not sure if it’s a LUFs issue with the TH-cam video compression or not but where Ulrich Wild’s in-the-box mix starts, where he says this is what he ended up with, it sounds to me like there is digital clipping and just a much more overdriven sound. Like I said, maybe it’s just the way TH-cam’s compression codec processed the audio. Audio sound much better and sounds much more controlled in Warren’s hybrid mix. Was listening using the a set of wireless Beats headphones which usually sound pretty good, so I don’t think it was a problem with those. Bob Marlette's heavy in-the-box mix sounded very heavy but I could not here anything that sounded like digital clipping. Not trying to be mean or hypercritical just wondering if anyone else is noticing this or could it just be some issue with my monitoring hardware
Hey Warren, thank you "ever so much" (as a great man often says) for the vid. As a mark of gratitude, if you only you were in India I would personally make the best dosas and the spiciest chutney and send them over just to tell you how much we appreciate you sharing this knowledge. That is what we do in India bro when we really love someone. Cook something extremely spice for them
that is so sweet!
how do i get the reverb and guitar sounding at the same time with hard right and left??
Using Sends..
I am seeing in your videos that there is always a sample sound accompanying the natural live instrument sound in the mix... for example, real snare and sample snare or a sample kick and the real kick and hey are blended. I think I have seen a guitar in this video too... when you say ''it doesn't sound natural because it is not natural.'' Is there a sampled guitar duplication of the live guitar performance too? How to create that? Or how to create to live and sample sounds and blend them, please? I am confused. I am only using bass guitar simulator drum simulator plugins at the moment and I play the guitar myself and the vocals ...so the guitars and the vocals are the only natural ones. Is it a must to have both the live and sampled sounds? :) Thank you!
love this stuff always amazing ... but your vids are getting to short ..... i need more . love it though...thanks mate.
Haha thanks Joey! I just read a comment that the videos were too long!! Haha Thanks fro your kind words my friend!
thanks for replying ....made my day .keep up the great work mate
6:08...Always giving it more of the middle finger.
Is there a chance of you collaborating with Stephen Street? I'd really love to now how he made those Blur records.
That would be AMAZING!!
I love that too!
Hi Warren, greetings from lovely Wiltshire.
Sorry to hit you up with such a basic (and pretty dull) question, But!
How do I get to the stage with this stuff that can actually follow the basics/jargon of what you are discussing. Not completely clueless but you are talking a way above my head, it's a journey and I want to get on with it.
Wiltshire is beautiful! Where are you there?
Calne, once famous for Harris's Pies
That sounds amazing Rob! I love the countryside there in Wiltshire! Truly amazingly beautiful! I have done the drive from Hampshire on the 303 and A30 so many times, gorgeous drive!
@ Rob, watch some of Warren's early Video's, he takes you through the basics.
I think there are 19 of them in a series "how to record".
You may already know some of the info, but the rest should fill in the blanks you have.
I've watched them all, and can follow this video with no problem, "Jargon" and all ;0)
Aww, you Poms!! Greetings from Perth, Western Australia!! :)
i like the new intro.
Bob Loblaw thanks ever so much!!
Nice
Thanks ever so much
Duh-nih-nah, duh-nih-nah, duh-nih-nah, nih-neh-nah.
What if we have simple 3 instrument rig? 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 drums set? How to deal with all the guitar panning ?
Hello Warren. Did I see that correctly, that you have mounted a Fat Finger on the headstock of your Fender bass? I've always wondered if that would be useful and audible or if it would be in the field of audio esotericism. What do you think? Does it really affects the sound?
Hi Marc, marvellous question! Yes! I really love it!!
Bob Marlet is the man
Yes, he is Mario! He's sitting next to me listening to new songs of the Matthews!
When do you compress heavy distorted guitars? They're already pretty compressed from the distortion.
I rarely would compress them, unless it’s just for a particular problem
@@Producelikeapro
Awesome, thank you!
Did I miss something, or there is no any part of video with those guitars in the context of full mix?
Hi Marcin, thanks for your comment! There's three different songs here with three different Producers/Mixers showing the Guitars in and out of the mix etc. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing!
2:23 please tell me anyone how to do that? Once inserting D-Reverb to any track it will be binded with it. What I mean if you pan it guitar track will be panned together with inserted reverb... How to seperate reverb effect related to specific recorded track and pan this reverb effect seperatly to opposite side of recorded guitar? How to get dedicated pan knob for inserted reverb only? So I can do what he did?
Use the reverb on a dedicated track,to which you send all guitar tracks. Send the as they are panned and just use a pan reverse/flip plugin on your fx track.
I have no idea how they managed it, but Neil Young proves you only need, at most, two guitars, while Pete Townshend proves you only need one (along with a world class bass player). I heard an audience recording of NY and Crazy Horse, and it sounded like there was some kind of far out calculus-type spherical conic section over the stadium. AWESOME!! Quite the phenomenon. Wish I had a clue.
2 Grand for the Mixing possibilities ?
first #1 jajajaja Warren say helo to spain!!!
Hello!
Is there some king of trick to recording distorted guitars coming out of an amp. I can't seem to get clarity in the chords.
Use BIAS FX 2. Its an Amp Simulation Plugin. The free demo is just fine. You just put the plugin on the audio track of your guitar input from the interface
This is question i've had on my mind for a while and i don't know why i've never asked it. it's about time i ask it. When it comes to a band, you have the drummer, the guitarists and bass guitar and the vocalists. And when everyone is together playing and doing their part, the sound all comes together. so how does a bass guitar help a band's sound and how does it complete the sound though you don't hear it? i've always wondered that about the bass guitar is like that and what it's relevance in music, even though it's an instrument you don't hear when listening to the music from that band. seems like a such a dumb question, but i'm just so curious about it.
The bass is (usually) there to fill out the main melody and the sound of the guitars themselves. Guitars are fundamentally less bassy than a bass guitar. You can tune a six string guitar very low and play the same notes as a bass, but it won't sound nearly as full and, well, bassy. So it kind of completes the sound of a rock ensemble. It is a part of what makes a six-string guitar sound heavy in a mix. They usually sound very thin with no bass track underneath.
thank you so much for responding! that def answers my question.
@@adriataylor7534 no problem, I'm surprised nobody else had answered yet!
There are no dumb questions btw
right!? my question was there for a good year or more. may be no one could give a good response. no there is not a bad question.
like the sound of warrens mix most
You're very kind Hannes!! Thanks ever so much!
7:03 - i thought hairfall was only my problem... don't know why but my hair loves to fall over my music equipments
This is probably the most useless comment I ever read in my life. You are here to learn about sound, not to be a donkey.
"Just a little more middle finger" lol
Bob Marlette & Ulrich WIld? aren't the Combo who make "Broken" bY Seether? A GREAT SOUNDING Song
Reno Mellow yes! Both guys are amazing and great people!
Great talents! I've listened to this song dozens of times paying attention to every detail of the mix ... it's absolutely amazing
krk's though?
Marlette was cutting around the same frequency you were boosting, and vice versa. I'm so confused. Getting the EQ right is the toughest thing for me when it comes to mixing.
I stumbled upon this video this morning and noticed that too. You’re probably tired of hearing this but the answer is use your ears. You’re never gonna have two mixers mix the same song the exact same way. It does NOT matter what fader you moved or frequency you tweaked as long as it sounds good. Now this was 5 years ago, so I hope you’re doing well out there and making improvements. The thing I didn’t like was when he said it’s unusual there was no compression. I RARELY ever put a compressor on distortion guitars because the distortion is basically doing the compression already. So take all these videos and apply them to your flow to get your own sound 🤘🏻🤘🏻