Electricians day installing shower circuit and consumer unit find.
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- This video is for entertainment purposes only please to don’t attempt to recreate or copy.
Join me as I install a new 10mm2 shower circuit and a small look into collapsing cables.
Don’t forget to add me on Instagram Thecjrshop for daily story updates. Thanks for watching.
Brilliant video, nothing better than doing electrical work all day they coming home and watching other guys do electrical work during their day ha
you nailed it
Fire clips are definitely not a load of old balls. I have a friend whose dad is an ex firefighter and he's told me stories about the times he's been caught up in cables that have collapsed. Scary stuff!
Plastic melts *long* before wood starts collapsing.
Great to see these vids from the likes of you and Nagy, unfiltered unscripted just told how it is in the real world. Excellent.
Love the videos, doing my level 2 electrical at college right now and just watching these vids helps me understand things even more, since it’s in a working environment.
Top electrical work. Shocking pipework from the plumber! I hope that was a handyman and not a tradesman!!
I'm guessing it was the homeowner.
Tom Coles I noticed that, looked crap
Great idea with those ties. Will be looking into those
Never gets old watching you guys across the pond! Electric showers seem so weird coming from the US! We do have demand water heaters mostly gas around here but you will find an electric from time to time. Last one I saw was feed with 3 x 30a 240v circuits one 10ga (2.588 mm) run for each stage of the heater. Keep in mind this is a whole home unit not just one shower.
I am a plumber in the UK and always suggest to customers that they choose an electric shower in preference to having a shower supplied by hot water from the boiler. Main reason being that if the boiler breaks down and it's going to be out of service for some days due to getting someone available to fix it or waiting for spare parts, having an electric shower means you even though your heating and hot water supply to the taps (fawcets) is down you still have a hot water st the shower. Especially important if you have a large family and children to keep clean !
Nice job , shame about that dodgy pipe work , some people don't give a shit and get away with it......😡
Cheers.....👍
Yeah, that pipeworkwas shite. Your trunking job was ace.
OMG, that cold water mains, For christ's sake a couple more clips would have helped.
Good video! You can get a shower priority unit that would only allow one shower supply to be on at a time, works well 👍
How much are those units?
£100 plus VAT for a unit where you choose which shower is priority or £140 plus VAT for a unit where the first shower to be used becomes priority, from meteorelectrical 👍
Hi there, I just discovered your channel and it's really interesting. Definitely subscribing. I'm a retired power station electrical fitter which is quite a different job so it's good to be able to see the domestic side of things! I'm quite amazed to see some of the jobs you are confronted with at times, ie botch ups! I know I would be tempted to walk away from quite a few of them! Keep the videos coming and keep an old spark amused!
I am literally mesmerized by the difference in electrical work just across the pond! Love the vids of you calling out poor workmanship.
I do the same over here in the US......just not on youtube.
I'm enjoying how you do electrical work in the UK. Especially the flexible stranded conductors in the cables.
In the US we typically use a 5ma trip rated 120 volt GFCI receptacle to protect people. The 30 ma trip would be to protect wired equipment.
The residential voltage supplied by the utility is nominally 120/240 volt with lights and receptacles supplied at 120 volts.
Keep the videos coming pal I don’t know why but I enjoy watching people doing this job and your the only youtuber that I watch doing this work. Great job with the videos and the work you do in general 👍👍 thank you
Great video! I've seen other electricians videos of them installing some sort of isolator that automatically turns off the other shower to reduce the current demand
Yes a priority switch it’s an idea but a pricey one that the client won’t go for.
could you not install a priority switch for the lady with 2 showers?
Nice idea on the DP isolator in the cupboard mate. Saves getting in the loft if anything 😂
Thank you for your videos it helps me a lot for the future.
Ha! Fitted a Sprint last week and had the EXACT same weeping shower hose out the bottom of the shower. It was like dejavu!!
Come on Toolstation!!
Fixing the cables is to protect fire fighters coming into the building from getting entangled, not people exiting. Nice job. 9.5/10
I think it's to protect both, if you remember in the 3rd amendment, it was only wiring along escape routes that required supporting from premature collapsing, that was primarily to protect ordinary persons trying to exit the property. The supporting along the entire run is to protect both firefighters and ordinary persons.
That plumbing is criminal
Really enjoyed this video and your others. Please keep them coming.
You could have offered the option of an automatic load priority switch for her to 10.8kW showers.
lovely 'push fit' fittings that won't be trodden on or bashed lol...
Loved the ( wire) cable tie above the fuse box!
Another great vid Chris. Keep up the great work. Getting loads of tips. Cheers mate
Love the video Chris, keep up the sense of humour 😂😊👍 great explanation on what you're doing as well.
Carry on! we’re enjoying 👍 great work.
great video mate could you maybe show some of the testing that you do
You could install the 2 x 10 .8 kw showers if you incorporate a shower priority switch
It's a shame the colleges don't teach the City & Guilds Part C Electrical Installation courses anymore ! Great videos .
Just subbed to the channel, great videos. The plumbing in this video shouts out a DIY job, if he was a plumber, he should retire double quick.
Try use a miter box with a hand saw for the corners. I use mitered corners all the time and it looks mint.
Mate get a cordless multi tool. Will make cutting those larger squares for knockouts so much quicker and easier
Right video mate. Real life stuff just what I need 👍👍
Tidy work, and a new screw tray 👍
Another excellent video, love the tips especially. Every day is a learning day ..
interesting with that isolator box we have some similar trunking in the sates the only thing i would have drilled for a bushing instead of leaving conductors so close to that jagged edge. keep in mind tho im no professional and can take all day. time is money but workmanship is priceless
another great video mate. keep them coming.
Brilliant video mate. Thanks👍🏻
Someone needs to tell that plumber that it's Work>Special Brew. Not the other way round or this happens!
Top job Chris... Good to know I'm not the only one that leaves a few mil gap for trunking bends. I probably would have tried to persuade the customer to have a few lengths of perforated cable tray fitted to support the wiring in the garage.
Yes I might mention it to her it’s bugging me too.
Just wondering how come you didn’t take the trunking right to the end of the wall after going through to the shower I find it always looks more tidy than just a bit stopping half way across a wall with a stop end on it.
Another great video - keep em coming!
13:49 In Thailand they use these showers too. But without special on/off switch in cable line, power cable direct to fuse switch. The shower self have a on/off button switch.
Why do you need three switches in UK?
Hi, this is my 2nd visit to this installation video and a couple of things sort of jumped out at me. The Consumer unit should have their MCB/RCBO Installed from the Greatest Ampere Sizes nearest the Main Switch to the lowest Amp Rated being the furthest away, large loads need to be fed first and a real bonus is that lighting that dims when these loads are being fed can indicate issues. Placing a 50A breaker near the end is not a good idea.
Maybe also another good idea where it is not practical to re-configure the Existing Consumer Unit [short cables maybe] is to install a Separate 4 to 6 way Consumer Unit wired direct via a pair of 100A iscol links, Next to the Origianal Board, to then install a Main RCD Switch rated at 30mA/80A and then place a 50A Type B,C or D Series MCB Dependent upon Max Circuit Resistance. Interesting point here is that everyone and their dog selects a Type B Breaker without considering the value of selecting a more suitable one via the Tables in the Wiring Regulations
I also noted an extraneous conductive part [Wall to Rafter Metal Tie] next to the Consumer Unit with no earth attached and I doubt that the Garage Doors/Frame had been earthed !
Also omitted was the check to verify if the Bath / sink had been Bonded, bearing in mind this installation appears to be old school regs not having a 2 x Main RCD Split M/C Board affording all circuits with RCD Protection, it needs to comply to the regulations of that time and sure as eggs are eggs this needs checking, also a quick check as to the type and Class of light fitting installed in the Bathroom.
Mr Spence Eng April 2022
That Busbar extension kit is (or was) a kosher MK kit to do just that sort of job.
Great video neat install
New drinking game: 4 shots of tequila every time he says intramescent mastic. Great vid as always mate.
He loves a bit of intramescent mastic doesn't he... What ever you do, don't expanding fire foam around him 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
2:37
.. plumbers pulled a really nice bend there -_-
Would love for you to show the testing parts and what you do there
Will do
It’s so when you put the lid on the switch lid the cables fold into the box neatly
Diamond drill bit for holes in pattress box.
Good to see you used trunking this time
😊.
Great video and great job 👍👍
But did he put any fire clips in the trunking... 🤔 I'm only messing Chris, I wouldn't have in that location 😉
Maybe the firemen will want to rescue the towels?
Great tip for the neon I didnt realise that, thanks
A superb job sir.
Well done.
everytime i see the top of GB panel boards im amazed we need to use retainer grommets for all of our wire runs you just leave them flopping around on sharp edges although you did add some puddy
Tanx for the upload plz carry on with the video's and tips.
I love those magnusson wire cutter. Use it all day long for Stripping wires and 25mm meter tails - no problem.
I think Screwfix do a pair of cutters for about £10... there's no way I'm paying +£35 for a pair of cutters.
Looks good. I need a connection and electronic shower installed. What is the cost for both? BTW I looked and I live in London, you guys are to far away. Not sure if you have locations or workers all over?
Pipework looks fine. It’s not leaking.
Brilliant as always ... didn't you feel a bit lonely without James 😂
i being from usa wld have sleeved some pvc conduit thru the block and left not so much of a tight bend out of the hole i think you may have over done the clipping a little but maybe there are different codes on that side of pond. in my area its one clip every 1.2 meters larger cables like those i might go every 1 meter
Our consumer unit at home looks like a very similar model to the one in this video. The RCD looks (a bit) newer than all the other breakers, though it's still all MK. (though there is also the same hole at the top of the box)
You may have made an omission by not installing supplementary equipotential bonding to the lighting circuit or an rcbo on the lighting circuit, since it was not covered by an RCBO or RCD in the consumer unit. 18th Edition regulation 701.415.2, in particular 701.415.2 part V states it can be omitted if all final circuit in that location are protected by and RCD. That didn't seem to be the case?
I guess you could put a changeover switch between the supply cable and the two load cables coming from each shower, so only one at a time could be used, but I think that's a bit too out there for a domestic dwelling?
Great video 👍🏻, shame the pipe work didn’t have a single fixing in it 🙈
It did mate all hidden by the shelving
Desperately in need of some cable tray in garage for this cables . Shocking leaving them like that whoever the spark was who was their last .
I agree.
Thought the same, always hate seeing cables just bunched like that. Loved the twin and screws bunching them into the CU!
Another quality video though mate
Isn't it better with cooker switch outside instead of pull cord inside the bath??
Good job
The length of that drill bit looks like Derek Wilton drilling into Reg Holdsworths water bed.
Looked like an MK pattress and switch, you can chop them about bit - try that with a BG or LAP 😂 good video
Yes both Mk won’t entertain anything less for a shower or cooker.
Nice job. Shame the plumber's is not as good. I don't like the way that pipe is not supported as it runs up in the cupboard. Just an observation: a 100A BS1362 cutout can run 120A for twenty minutes, so, provided there is no electric hob, one might get away with two 10Kw showers, though you're right to advise against it.
The pipe had 3 clips on it not visible as hidden by the new plywood shelving.
I bet the consumer unit is mk and I always have all different types of mcbs and rcbos on me all the time just for the job
Nice work!
Great videos thank you.
And great clean job by the way.
I think 2 firefighters were killed last year tangled up in fallen down wiring.
That's why they've bought in that new reg, makes you think doesn't it!
Yes I totally agree with it but the installers got to use common sense to.
CJR ELECTRICAL why say it was a load of balls then? Firefighters have died as a result of being entangled in dropped cables. We now receive specific training in how to free ourselves and my brigade now have insulated wire cutters permanently attached to our breathing apparatus sets. Also, one of the priorities at a house fire is to make your way to the cu to isolate it so not having to deal with a nest of cables is always good. Remember that in a fire you have zero visibility and you have to cut and release yourself blind, it's not easy. Rant over. Love the videos.
Hi Chris,
What size trunking did you use in the cupboard? Thanks
Had the manager of my local pub ask me to install a 10.5Kw electric shower he bought, I tried to explain that it can't be done and a power shower would be the answer (gravity hot and cold water) he ain't 'having it (he tells us he has been an engineer most of his working life Haha). 73 Amp (with diversity) that's just the commercial kitchen + pub + external function room + 3 bedroom flat (with electric cooker) Supply is 100a single phase, and he was an engineer, yeah right!
Electrical Engineers have test equipment which can monitor Peak Current Consumption over Time, this gives an exact idea of useage, but one should always take onboard change of a Tenant who's needs may be different, but as I have said many times, if Diversity is calculated then 100A will run what appears on paper to be a massive load.
The biggest dangers I have seen in the Industry is where Large Cables are Connected to small Cables ie 35mm Tails linked out to 16mm Tails at the Origin, this can and does cause Fires
Especially when running large E7 Loadings overnight.
Mr Spence Eng
@@apartmentswales Totally agree with you on this matter!
@@CrazySparkie63 Thanks for your agreement, but come to think of it a I have never seen a Pub unless running from someone's house in West Wales that does not have a 3 phase installation, as the classification of this type of Business is a Commercial Business
Mr Spence Eng
Well done top of enclosure should have been IP4X from new
I'm from Germany and a bit confused about GB regulations.
What's up with Zone 0/1 around a shower ? Isn't there this safety Zone, where mains power isn't allowed ?
don't buy MOULDED boxes but PVC Conduit Entry Box. They have knock outs and easy to drill.
Would of looked better if you just used the banding strap to fix the cable. Mixing T+E clips with the strap looks brutal.
Linian have T&E fire clips now.
8:14 omg that bus bar must be insulated!
Just one small criticism, whenever you see something dodgy, (like the exposed copper of the meter tails in the unit) dont just say "thats fantastic" and move on. You know what youve seen, and whats wrong, but the inexperienced will be wondering what was fantastic, and think it was acceptable. You have done this in a few vids i have watched, so if you see something wrong say its wrong, and why. Sorry to point this out but its important when doing instructionals.
Bang on the money, yes if it is wrong put it right, how long would it take to trim them back or
to put some Colour Coded Heat Sleaving on them. For more complicated items, take a photo and advise the client this should be put right and the cost of doing so.
Mr Spence Eng
Top work and videos 👍🏽
Very professional job mate! Have to ask tho, what was that that you just installed? I live in Canada and I have a 30 gallon Hot Water Heater in the basement! Cheers
Anything great video keep them coming would be great if they was longer as well love long TH-cam videos but definitely one of my favourite guys
Nice one 👍
Just fit a shower split shower splitter connector relay switch so only one shower circuit can be live at one time not seen the cost of then but there out there. More cost but if that is what she is asking for.
I'm a little confused, why are you running mains power into a shower? Is there no central hot water service installed in the U.K? Here in Australia every house has a centralised hot water service, only exception is some units that have a complex hot water service.
When we had a new shower fitted,the electrician noticed that the supply cable that my now retired electrician had originally fitted was 16mm,as was my cooker circuit and the utility room too.He wasted no time and effort telling me how much he hated the stuff and that despite the shower and consumer unit being only about 7-8 ft apart that there was about 17 ft of surplus cable in the shower circuit just laying in the loft which I then pulled through,but only after a massive sweary fight with it😄,Jeez! that stuff don't manipulate or even want to co-operate it's almost like semi solid bars,no wonder no bugger wants to use it!. Plus it seems an expensive way to do it but I'm assuming that because the original guy was nearly finished he just used what he had. Anyway,recently while fitting a new cooker to our kitchen(twin fan ovens with grills and 4 halogen rings)which required the back to be removed to make conection I couldnt help but notice that what we were effectively doing was joining a bit of 16mm to a bit of 2.5mm, the internal wires looked completely ridiculous on the face of it and it was basically unsheathed 3 core flex supplying the whole cooker!
Awesome video dude. :)
Some tips on how to become a better Electrician like you. Otherwise, your really good, very good
It may just be me, but what about earth bonding the water supply pipe to the shower in the cupboard and shower unit. Looking at the pipework in the cupboard, it's feed with 15mm copper, then a 15mm plastic elbow, then what looks like 15mm white plastic pipe, then another 15mm plastic elbow. From this plastic elbow they used 15mm copper pipe through the wall to the shower unit. I would bridge the plastic parts with earth bonding.
nice vid mate i wish you was in Epsom all the best/Kev
Get yourself some Dewalt wall dog screws, no need for wall plugs when using fire resistant fixings ;)
Looks like Bodgit and Scarper were the plumbers on this shower ‘installation ‘
What would happen if you connected up 2 x 10.8kW electric showers on the 100 AMP? and ran them at the same time? Would 2 x 8.5kW be ok as it comes in at 83 amps ? Or is there just no way to have 2 electric showers working in a domestic house? I mean surely that is a problem in any bigish house? Or fit somekind of automatic lockout box that means if one shower is drawing power, the other wont turn on.
No conduit through the wall to sleeve the 10mm?
Why? i have never seen anyone do that through a block, stop trying to pick fault's for no reason .
@@doltonddiary8342 UK speed limit 70 mph on a motorway.
Out of interest mate, did you cut the wood in the airing cupboard or the trunking to make it fit?
Cut the timber out my way do the trunking is continuous.
@@Cjrelectrical fair play 👍