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In many films about affairs, the person who's been cheating is typically forgiven by their spouse, and they remain together, with little to no drama. While this can happen in real life, it probably wouldn't go as smoothly.
That movie Unfaithful with Diane Lane. Husband literally kills the lover and then husband and wife live peacefully ever after like an affair and murder never happened.
@@melodazzzethey don’t it’s actually implied in the end that the man turns himself in as they stop at the lights near the police station on the last shot and the car remains there when the film ends
It is very different when you are in a long term marriage. If you have a strong enough foundation and decades invested, you can move past something like an affair if you both put the work in together. The ending of Babygirl felt very real to me.
Spoilers: At the end6, could the black Labrador was the same one in the beginning? Explaining that Esme, the employee, and Samuel, the intern, have planned the whole thing. Why else would Samuel tell anyone else about their relationship, even after saying he never cared about ruining her with their secrets? She was the mastermind all along. Esme got promoted. She probably knows alot about her employer, Romy. Even if the dog wasn't exactly the same, the plot twist could still applied.
This is NOT an erotic thriller. We were initially disappointed when watching it under that premise, but recalibrated it as a character study, well executed by Nicole Kidman - as someone seeking something missing. In her life. The aspect too often neglected is her husband’s (Antonio Banderas’) way of responding, and the place where this couple lands. The film says a lot about rising to business and social status, losing something in the process, and trying to gain it later in life.
THIS ! I feel like I would’ve enjoyed the movie more if they hadn’t labeled it an erotic thriller. I was looking for elements that just weren’t there and ended up dissatisfied! Kind of like Kidman’s marriage 🤪
Erotic thriller. Ew. Why do you want sex and violence? Do you realise this is a very new phenomenon and its doing society no favours. Normalising sexual violence for entertainment? What could go wrong! Literally creating a demand for sexual violence. Common sense doesn't exist in your world does it? I'm glad you were disappointed. No one wants to see that kind of media other than abnormal dangerous people like yourself. Luckily babylonian levels of sex positivity have the opposite effect than intended. Society becomes more A sexual. What a shame lol
I think my favorite thing about the film is its refusal to give any answers. Does she deserve forgiveness? No answer. Can she and her husband truly bounce back? No answer. Is this something she has "conquered" or "fixed"? No answer. As said in the video, it's more of a study on power and characters' relationship to power, which I personally found much more interesting than an erotic thriller.
A female friend of mine described it well: We both grew up having to take too much responsibility for ourselves and others, so our fantasy was someone taking responsibility for us.
I am surprised that you didn't mention the stereotype that people in a position of power, particularly a high powered job, secretly want to be controlled. I thought even outside BDSM circles people knew the trope of the high powered businessman who secretly goes to a dominatrix on the weekend? It's the same thing here, just with the genders reversed.
@@chuckm1961 It isn't obvious to everyone, especially people who watch bit sized content. They felt the need to mention that some people believe women secretly want to be controlled, so it seems even more noticeable that they neglected to mention a direct parallel.
@@trashbasket11 That doesn't suprise me. I think people prefer to think of more fringe scenarios/demographics so they don't have to think about average people being into unexpected things, or not like they assumed. Obviously no correlation between BDSM and SA but it's like how a lot of people prefer to believe that all pedophiles are large glasses wearing men with greasy thinning hair and an old fashioned wardrobe, it just isn't true but is more simple and less scary to believe.
"Milk is associated with innocence and fragility" sure but in this case it meant to be a degrading act, like an animal lapping up a drink from their owner.
A24 movie are more about the experience of watching the films, than about an actual story as we are used to seeing them. I love how this small production company (along with various smaller indie companies) have helped me change the way I consume on-screen media. It has made it easier for me to enjoy stories that are different from what we're used to. Even better since many of their trappings are slipping over into the mainstream.
The milk stuff makes sense the way you described it, but in the movie the scene where she drinks milk in front of her colleagues happens first, so it just felt bizarre to me
It made perfect sense if you have an understanding of power-exchange relationships. Him sending her a drink typically associated with children, exerts his potential dominance over her. By drinking it, she agrees to his bid and offers her power. The fact it's all played out across a bar full of people is what makes it dangerous and hot.
Maybe I'm crazy but I did see all three Fifty Shades films and what I saw was although Christian TRIED to impose his ideal relationship on Ana, in the end their relationship becomes what ANA always wanted- vanilla. She's the one who gets the upper hand without 100% submitting to the relationship Christian wants. Did no one else see this?
I didnt see the final movie but I did read the books. They continúe to have the D/s relationship in the books, getting married and having children. Does the movie end differently?
@@TheLudmilita they did continue bdsm in movies too. The point is he refused to have anything other than bdsm in begining, Anna caved in but later they do have vanilla relationship with little bit of bdsm but primarily vanilla complete with marriage and kids
I haven’t watched this yet, but what are the odds the CEO and an intern would even be in the same place at the same time? Or that the CEO would even bother speaking to the intern at all?
To me the literal narrative of the movie is way less interesting than the symbolic one. The whole story could easily be a fanfiction written by Romy, and I believe THAT is the beauty of it. To deal with the themes of the movie irl is messy, complicated and not at all something linear or pristinely moral, and the movie respects that. It is a movie about knowing yourself and it includes fetishes and sexuality, not the other way around
I love how you listed the diferencies between 50 shades and This movie, they are the exact reason the BDSM community hates the books and the movies. It gave the misconception that submissives dont have any control, when in fact, they just have a different kind of control.
5:26 That's not always true. Often times when the woman it's older going after a younger guy, the guy is inexperienced and the woman is the aggressor. How it can it framed as a conquest for the guy if it is also acknowledged that sometimes he may not even enjoy the experience? 7:43 I find this analysis interesting because we don't see this as a problem (nor do I) but there is always heavy critique on the "manic pixie dream girl" trope. Would this not be the same thing but in male form?
@@en2336wedding crashers sort of has a scenario like that. It's played for laughs, but the older woman is definitely the aggressor in that scenario, making the younger man uncomfortable.
As a young man who used to date older women, I was almost always the one with more experience. The older women I dated were often recently divorced/separated and had very little experience because they started their long-term relationships when they were very young. I didn't start dating until my mid-twenties, and I still had more experience than most of the older women I dated. For many, it was their first time dating in nearly 20 years.
I think this movie is about giving permission to people to explore their desires and not be ashamed of them. While her relationship with her intern was objectively bad, it kinda grew out of a need that she wasn't correctly expressing to her husband and once the fallout happens, he actually listens to her.
I'm confused about the shame....if you cheat on the person you are married to, hell yeah there's gotta be some shame. I feel like the director conflates this with the shame a woman feels for experiencing erotic pleasure. If she wanted to explore that theme, it should have been a different context.
@@olivia-performanceartist3693 I feel like the intern was just a personified fantasy. Like having an intense affair in your head with a romance novel character, and so it wasn't explored as an affair.
This feels very dated. I get what it was trying to do, but it's like a Mad Men-esque plot full of cliches, forced into a modern day wanna-be erotic thriller. It doesn't really do any of it's themes well - not the commentary/critique on gender and power dynamics or the spicy thriller aspect.
The French Dispatch, directed by Wes Anderson. This anthology comedy film includes this second segment starring Timothèe Chalamet and Frances McDormand.
I have not seen this film. What I found quite jarring about the trailer, is something you repeat several times in this video too. That Samuel, the low level intern, has the power to manipulate Romy and destroy both her career and private life? Yeah, I think we can be certain that that is absolutely not how things would play out in real life.
In my humble opinion, Esme is the key to understanding the final message of the movie. How she deals with her knowledge of the affair felt different and pragmatic. I hate to bring up where we are right now in the world, but let's be honest; there are no good and bad guys anymore. There is just dealing with the situations we find ourselves in and not letting them overwhelm us. Should Romy have been punished? Was Michael Douglass ever punished in those half-dozen erotic thrillers where he cheated?
Spoilers: At the end, could the black Labrador was the same one in the beginning? Explaining that Esme, the employee, and Samuel, the intern, have planned the whole thing. 😅 Why else would Samuel tell anyone else about their relationship, even after saying he never cared about ruining her with their secrets? She was the mastermind all along. Esme got promoted. 😮 She probably knows alot about her employer, Romy. Even if the dog wasn't exactly the same, the plot twist could still applied.😮😂
If it were a male CEO, yiu would have (rightly so) torn him to shreds for cheating and not facing any consequences. Yet Kidman gets a pass and handwave it away because of a character study? F cheaters, F the normalization of cheating in media, and F anyone who makes excuses for cheaters
It's not a normalisation, simply portraying it is not normalising, you americans need to stop feeling so literally. It's more realistic for nothing to happen to her cuz let's me honest, that's what happens irl.
Seems like this is too basic to have to explain, but here goes nothing. Human nature 101, buddy. People care the most about things that affect them personally. Women cheating doesn't directly affect me; I'm into men. I won't defend women cheating, and I won't tell you not to have your outrage towards women cheating, but if you're out here mad that you don't see women castigating the female character in the comments here, I think you need to curtail your narcissistic need to view a forum and see comments that share your view, homey. P.S. - if you want to be taken seriously by a larger proportion of the feminine population, do yourself a favor, and ditch that cringe Death Note pfp. Just some friendly advice.
Firstly- the idea is not original. There is a Swedish mini series on Netflix called love and anarchy which is beautiful deep and well done. This movie is wrong on so many levels. And is badly made as the characters are one note. Maybe if they had depth and chemistry the story would be forgiven but unfortunately all i could see is toxic behaviour. Even Nicole couldn't save it. And im personally super angry because i do engage in bdsm and what they have showed is not a healthy expression of it. The healthy bdsm is safe sane and consensual- they showed totally opposite to that. But a regular person will not now it and link kink with unhealthy obsession. Ok not every movie have to be morally ok - but if you go into controversy at least make it good and believable
I hate everything about this movie, it’s kinda inspired by the piano teacher but more sterilized, commercial, and “current” because zoomers love to talk about “power dynamics”. No wonder the same person made bodies bodies bodies, trash
I feel like it had some good ideas but I am not sure it sticker the landing. A story about a woman struggling with her desire to be sub could be amazing if done right but it just didn't feel if they hit the mark.
I want to watch this movie but im scare I'll watch something purely stereotypical that portraits Dom/sub dynamics as something cliche and stoopid like Fifty shades of grey movie
The soundtrack is awesome! I think it's ok, just depends on what you go in expecting. I took it as them both being newbies. It's not 50 shades that has an "experienced" Dom with a whole room and contract. You could tell they were trying stuff out. There was def nervous laughter in my theater in those moments especially if it was silent. I think everyone expected the Samuel character to be a Christian Grey and couldn't understand why she was messing with him and not her Antonio Banderas husband. Where I think Samuel was very much meant to be more awkward. I think it was more of a mental attraction/bond than physical. Ending seemed rushed, but wasn't bad (I saw this as a matinee). If you're expecting/want lots of nudity and sex scenes no. Sorry for the long answer! Lol
If the young man is rich, its a conquest. If he is, the woman is abusing him. We literally have one where she's pregnant and her son and her lover are the same age. Her lover is an NBA player for Houston Rockets
This movie was utter trash. Maybe I'm not the target demographic, but the message in this movie is absolutely terrible. The mother is a cheater, and the daughter is a cheater, yet they get no comeuppance in the end, making this movie extremely unsatisfying and having a horrible message. There is a reason why cheaters are often showed getting punished, and it is because they DESERVE it. Without it, it feels like the message is that it's okay to "explore yourself" AKA, Cheat, and it will all work out in the end or that it's not wrong. It almost feels like it is trying to normalize cheating, which we do NOT need more of. Additionally, Samuel is AWFUL. He is supposed to be sexy, but he comes off as anything but. I am attracted to men and am very submissive, but he was the complete opposite of attractive to me. His voice lines are dry, low energy, and makes him come off as socially inept and quite frankly, autistic. How anyone could find this dry husk of a man attractive enough to cheat on with is beyond me. He cant even hold a normal conversation without sounding like he is bored out of his mind and comes off like the personality of a disgusting redditor or discord mod. The main character is unlikable and never receives justice for her actions, and the movie tries to portray her as just exploring herself when she deserves punishment for what she did. The movie tries to make it seem like their relationship is "abusive" when it is anything but. These are both grown ass adults who fully knew what they were doing. They deserve the full wrath of the consequences. The only good people in this movie to watch was the husband, the dancing younger daughter, and the black women coworker. Every other charachter was disgusting, awful, and utterly hatable. 0/10, would never reccomend.
Your comment about Samuel coming off as autistic is extremely ableist. You’d be suprised by how many autistic people belong to the bdsm community, being both dominants and submissives.
I feel like this was more of a romcom, but without much comedy. Halfway through the movie I was begging for it not to add more thriller and horrible crazy ending with punishment. Because it didn't feel like this deadly lust and manipulation, film noir kind of demise. It was real intimacy with both characters exploring something about themself, being vulnerable and gentle to each other, well not without power play. In the end it felt much more emotional, than steamy, much more melodramatic then thrilling. And I kinda like that
I genuinely did not understand his appeal so I couldn’t buy into the affair at all. That is all my friend and I could talk about when we left the theater. What is so engaging about him?
It's very insulting for a rich, privileged woman to make a fantasy out of the same treatment less fortunate women experience every day. However, the film is well made and Kidman played the role of an unlikable main character very well. She truly was pathetic. Especially liked the scene where she's telling the other ceo guy to eff off.
the point of this film is for Nicole Kidman to prove she's still desirable, something she clearly cannot let go of based off how much plastic surgery she gets. being attractive should be the least interesting thing about you jfc can y'all come up with something else????
also only thirty percent of women can orgasm vaginally that's what y'all's problem is. also the man may just not care about you or you need to communicate better whatever. it's not really surprising if you just know that one fact
It was hard to watch. Not just because because Nicole Kidman’s hella old-literally almost my grandma’s age, but because I went to see it with my mom😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
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In many films about affairs, the person who's been cheating is typically forgiven by their spouse, and they remain together, with little to no drama. While this can happen in real life, it probably wouldn't go as smoothly.
That movie Unfaithful with Diane Lane. Husband literally kills the lover and then husband and wife live peacefully ever after like an affair and murder never happened.
@@melodazzzethey don’t it’s actually implied in the end that the man turns himself in as they stop at the lights near the police station on the last shot and the car remains there when the film ends
It is very different when you are in a long term marriage. If you have a strong enough foundation and decades invested, you can move past something like an affair if you both put the work in together. The ending of Babygirl felt very real to me.
really? In most movies it ends in a desaster, as far as i remember... I was surprised that this one didn't...
Spoilers: At the end6, could the black Labrador was the same one in the beginning?
Explaining that Esme, the employee, and Samuel, the intern, have planned the whole thing. Why else would Samuel tell anyone else about their relationship, even after saying he never cared about ruining her with their secrets? She was the mastermind all along. Esme got promoted.
She probably knows alot about her employer, Romy. Even if the dog wasn't exactly the same, the plot twist could still applied.
This is NOT an erotic thriller. We were initially disappointed when watching it under that premise, but recalibrated it as a character study, well executed by Nicole Kidman - as someone seeking something missing. In her life. The aspect too often neglected is her husband’s (Antonio Banderas’) way of responding, and the place where this couple lands. The film says a lot about rising to business and social status, losing something in the process, and trying to gain it later in life.
THIS ! I feel like I would’ve enjoyed the movie more if they hadn’t labeled it an erotic thriller. I was looking for elements that just weren’t there and ended up dissatisfied! Kind of like Kidman’s marriage 🤪
Erotic thriller. Ew. Why do you want sex and violence? Do you realise this is a very new phenomenon and its doing society no favours. Normalising sexual violence for entertainment? What could go wrong! Literally creating a demand for sexual violence. Common sense doesn't exist in your world does it? I'm glad you were disappointed. No one wants to see that kind of media other than abnormal dangerous people like yourself. Luckily babylonian levels of sex positivity have the opposite effect than intended. Society becomes more A sexual. What a shame lol
I think my favorite thing about the film is its refusal to give any answers. Does she deserve forgiveness? No answer. Can she and her husband truly bounce back? No answer. Is this something she has "conquered" or "fixed"? No answer. As said in the video, it's more of a study on power and characters' relationship to power, which I personally found much more interesting than an erotic thriller.
100% agree
They did seem to bounce back though...
A female friend of mine described it well: We both grew up having to take too much responsibility for ourselves and others, so our fantasy was someone taking responsibility for us.
I am surprised that you didn't mention the stereotype that people in a position of power, particularly a high powered job, secretly want to be controlled.
I thought even outside BDSM circles people knew the trope of the high powered businessman who secretly goes to a dominatrix on the weekend? It's the same thing here, just with the genders reversed.
Right!
Yes, I think they didn’t mention it because it’s childishly obvious and imbedded in the entire discussion, without having to explicitly state it.
Recent studies in bdsm are showing that to be a myth.
@@chuckm1961 It isn't obvious to everyone, especially people who watch bit sized content. They felt the need to mention that some people believe women secretly want to be controlled, so it seems even more noticeable that they neglected to mention a direct parallel.
@@trashbasket11 That doesn't suprise me. I think people prefer to think of more fringe scenarios/demographics so they don't have to think about average people being into unexpected things, or not like they assumed.
Obviously no correlation between BDSM and SA but it's like how a lot of people prefer to believe that all pedophiles are large glasses wearing men with greasy thinning hair and an old fashioned wardrobe, it just isn't true but is more simple and less scary to believe.
can't help but think about "are you lost babygirl?" :D
The way some of us just got an eye sprain ...
🤭☺️😏
"Milk is associated with innocence and fragility" sure but in this case it meant to be a degrading act, like an animal lapping up a drink from their owner.
Yeah I don't think the person that made this video understands bdsm and degradation kinks
In the movie, Harrison's character compares them to children playing. A glass of milk can also be childlike. It could be a reference to that
The owner feels very glad to feed their pet. It's not degrading.
Two things can be true. The film can depict varying levels of degradation or subservience, and the milk can still be a symbol of innocence.
@@carlahaiduk1878 When it is an animal yes, when it is a human roleplaying the intent is very different.
I hate how clear movies look now it looks like one huge ad
That is the point of the film.
So true. ngl I kinda miss the nostalgic effect of the 90's - 2000's movies.
the H&M ad was really obvious lol
A24 movie are more about the experience of watching the films, than about an actual story as we are used to seeing them. I love how this small production company (along with various smaller indie companies) have helped me change the way I consume on-screen media. It has made it easier for me to enjoy stories that are different from what we're used to. Even better since many of their trappings are slipping over into the mainstream.
The milk stuff makes sense the way you described it, but in the movie the scene where she drinks milk in front of her colleagues happens first, so it just felt bizarre to me
It made perfect sense if you have an understanding of power-exchange relationships. Him sending her a drink typically associated with children, exerts his potential dominance over her. By drinking it, she agrees to his bid and offers her power. The fact it's all played out across a bar full of people is what makes it dangerous and hot.
I miss the older woman I dated years ago. Had I been a wiser man, I would have stayed.
I mean you can still date older lmao
@@run4508 lmao it's not like all older women are the same but maybe you can't see that
@@run4508 But not that woman
@@run4508 but they miss that specific woman so it won’t be the same
you were probably a victim
Jezz, i cant hear the words babygirl anymore. It reminds of a horrible movie that i am trying so hard to forget. 😞
What happened to that baby girl? Did she get lost?
@Zikomo7 Yeah, and then she married a psycho and almost died like 10 times. Really messed up.
Baby gorilla
Hmmmm
Maybe I'm crazy but I did see all three Fifty Shades films and what I saw was although Christian TRIED to impose his ideal relationship on Ana, in the end their relationship becomes what ANA always wanted- vanilla. She's the one who gets the upper hand without 100% submitting to the relationship Christian wants. Did no one else see this?
Because it’s feminist propaganda that’s why
@lonellfletcher I got the same impression from 50 shades. It definitely wasn’t Christian who was in power.
Ans that's why its so popular with female audience despite the problematic stuff
I didnt see the final movie but I did read the books. They continúe to have the D/s relationship in the books, getting married and having children. Does the movie end differently?
@@TheLudmilita they did continue bdsm in movies too.
The point is he refused to have anything other than bdsm in begining, Anna caved in but later they do have vanilla relationship with little bit of bdsm but primarily vanilla complete with marriage and kids
PLEASE do a video on Nosferatu!!!!
One of Nicole Kidman's daughters is played by Esther McGregor, whose father, Ewan McGregor, starred with Kidman in "Moulin Rouge."
Nepotism at its finest! But she was good, I liked how she played her character.
Wow I didn't know ,I love the movie moulin rouge ❤
And her dad Ewan is a cheater (cheated on her mom with Mary Elizabeth winstead)
@@Em35nycMight be why they chose her.
I haven’t watched this yet, but what are the odds the CEO and an intern would even be in the same place at the same time? Or that the CEO would even bother speaking to the intern at all?
If he looks Like that…
Well if u watched it, its answered there. Their interactions were first forced
To me the literal narrative of the movie is way less interesting than the symbolic one. The whole story could easily be a fanfiction written by Romy, and I believe THAT is the beauty of it. To deal with the themes of the movie irl is messy, complicated and not at all something linear or pristinely moral, and the movie respects that. It is a movie about knowing yourself and it includes fetishes and sexuality, not the other way around
I love how you listed the diferencies between 50 shades and This movie, they are the exact reason the BDSM community hates the books and the movies. It gave the misconception that submissives dont have any control, when in fact, they just have a different kind of control.
5:26 That's not always true. Often times when the woman it's older going after a younger guy, the guy is inexperienced and the woman is the aggressor. How it can it framed as a conquest for the guy if it is also acknowledged that sometimes he may not even enjoy the experience?
7:43 I find this analysis interesting because we don't see this as a problem (nor do I) but there is always heavy critique on the "manic pixie dream girl" trope. Would this not be the same thing but in male form?
What are some movies featuring the first scenario? I don't watch many romcoms
@@en2336wedding crashers sort of has a scenario like that. It's played for laughs, but the older woman is definitely the aggressor in that scenario, making the younger man uncomfortable.
As a young man who used to date older women, I was almost always the one with more experience. The older women I dated were often recently divorced/separated and had very little experience because they started their long-term relationships when they were very young. I didn't start dating until my mid-twenties, and I still had more experience than most of the older women I dated. For many, it was their first time dating in nearly 20 years.
@@en2336 I think "American Pie" and "The Graduates" are the most famous examples.
I think this movie is about giving permission to people to explore their desires and not be ashamed of them. While her relationship with her intern was objectively bad, it kinda grew out of a need that she wasn't correctly expressing to her husband and once the fallout happens, he actually listens to her.
I'm confused about the shame....if you cheat on the person you are married to, hell yeah there's gotta be some shame. I feel like the director conflates this with the shame a woman feels for experiencing erotic pleasure. If she wanted to explore that theme, it should have been a different context.
@@olivia-performanceartist3693 I feel like the intern was just a personified fantasy. Like having an intense affair in your head with a romance novel character, and so it wasn't explored as an affair.
This feels very dated. I get what it was trying to do, but it's like a Mad Men-esque plot full of cliches, forced into a modern day wanna-be erotic thriller. It doesn't really do any of it's themes well - not the commentary/critique on gender and power dynamics or the spicy thriller aspect.
It was erotic.. but definitely no thriller
Hmm
What is the name of the movie at 6:01?
The French Dispatch, directed by Wes Anderson. This anthology comedy film includes this second segment starring Timothèe Chalamet and Frances McDormand.
Gotta get back into long form content again.
In five years no one will even remember this one
I have not seen this film. What I found quite jarring about the trailer, is something you repeat several times in this video too. That Samuel, the low level intern, has the power to manipulate Romy and destroy both her career and private life? Yeah, I think we can be certain that that is absolutely not how things would play out in real life.
In my humble opinion, Esme is the key to understanding the final message of the movie. How she deals with her knowledge of the affair felt different and pragmatic. I hate to bring up where we are right now in the world, but let's be honest; there are no good and bad guys anymore. There is just dealing with the situations we find ourselves in and not letting them overwhelm us. Should Romy have been punished? Was Michael Douglass ever punished in those half-dozen erotic thrillers where he cheated?
Am I the only one who thought the glass of milk contained his “male liquid”?
You literally missed the last part of the movie ,so disappointed,the whole movie was explained on that scene with dog & the man
Watch Baby Boom with Diane Keaton instead, one of my fave guilty pleasures
Haha hahaha hehe!!!!.
Spoilers: At the end, could the black Labrador was the same one in the beginning?
Explaining that Esme, the employee, and Samuel, the intern, have planned the whole thing. 😅 Why else would Samuel tell anyone else about their relationship, even after saying he never cared about ruining her with their secrets? She was the mastermind all along. Esme got promoted. 😮
She probably knows alot about her employer, Romy. Even if the dog wasn't exactly the same, the plot twist could still applied.😮😂
You should have written this film instead. Brilliant twist! 😁👏🏼😊
I thought it had a "feminist" aspect, but putting a CEO as suxually dominated by her intern is definitely not feminist
She was SNUBBED.
That "apt" at 7:18 in the narration threw me off.
I hate this film so much.
If it were a male CEO, yiu would have (rightly so) torn him to shreds for cheating and not facing any consequences. Yet Kidman gets a pass and handwave it away because of a character study? F cheaters, F the normalization of cheating in media, and F anyone who makes excuses for cheaters
Lol
It's not a normalisation, simply portraying it is not normalising, you americans need to stop feeling so literally. It's more realistic for nothing to happen to her cuz let's me honest, that's what happens irl.
Seems like this is too basic to have to explain, but here goes nothing. Human nature 101, buddy. People care the most about things that affect them personally.
Women cheating doesn't directly affect me; I'm into men. I won't defend women cheating, and I won't tell you not to have your outrage towards women cheating, but if you're out here mad that you don't see women castigating the female character in the comments here, I think you need to curtail your narcissistic need to view a forum and see comments that share your view, homey.
P.S. - if you want to be taken seriously by a larger proportion of the feminine population, do yourself a favor, and ditch that cringe Death Note pfp. Just some friendly advice.
what the hell... whats happening with you ? lots of movies are about that exact scenario you described...
@squirrel-e7j yes, and every reviewer ever rightfully calls out what a shitstain the cheating male CEO. Curiously missing in this one
Firstly- the idea is not original. There is a Swedish mini series on Netflix called love and anarchy which is beautiful deep and well done.
This movie is wrong on so many levels. And is badly made as the characters are one note. Maybe if they had depth and chemistry the story would be forgiven but unfortunately all i could see is toxic behaviour. Even Nicole couldn't save it. And im personally super angry because i do engage in bdsm and what they have showed is not a healthy expression of it. The healthy bdsm is safe sane and consensual- they showed totally opposite to that. But a regular person will not now it and link kink with unhealthy obsession. Ok not every movie have to be morally ok - but if you go into controversy at least make it good and believable
They could have at least cast someone handsome, as the intern.
Milk does a body good commercial comes to mind (80's) . And then guys may see it another way too. 😂
Depends
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Oh, gross!
the dynamic duo
Spend the two hours watching the excellent film, Working Girl, instead. So interesting and inspiring
Working Girl is an amazing film! There was also a clip of Baby Boom with Diane Keaton shown in the vid, which I also recommend as a guilty pleasure.
I hate everything about this movie, it’s kinda inspired by the piano teacher but more sterilized, commercial, and “current” because zoomers love to talk about “power dynamics”. No wonder the same person made bodies bodies bodies, trash
Yes this movie was awful nothing like 9 half week film, no chemistry in this film the trailers of this movie deceived. She didn’t understood sub,
I feel like it had some good ideas but I am not sure it sticker the landing. A story about a woman struggling with her desire to be sub could be amazing if done right but it just didn't feel if they hit the mark.
I want to watch this movie but im scare I'll watch something purely stereotypical that portraits Dom/sub dynamics as something cliche and stoopid like Fifty shades of grey movie
The soundtrack is awesome! I think it's ok, just depends on what you go in expecting. I took it as them both being newbies. It's not 50 shades that has an "experienced" Dom with a whole room and contract. You could tell they were trying stuff out. There was def nervous laughter in my theater in those moments especially if it was silent. I think everyone expected the Samuel character to be a Christian Grey and couldn't understand why she was messing with him and not her Antonio Banderas husband. Where I think Samuel was very much meant to be more awkward. I think it was more of a mental attraction/bond than physical. Ending seemed rushed, but wasn't bad (I saw this as a matinee). If you're expecting/want lots of nudity and sex scenes no. Sorry for the long answer! Lol
Im not a Nicole Kidman fan like back in the day.
If the young man is rich, its a conquest. If he is, the woman is abusing him.
We literally have one where she's pregnant and her son and her lover are the same age. Her lover is an NBA player for Houston Rockets
the film was super weak... harris was good, though, i'll be watching him
This movie was utter trash. Maybe I'm not the target demographic, but the message in this movie is absolutely terrible. The mother is a cheater, and the daughter is a cheater, yet they get no comeuppance in the end, making this movie extremely unsatisfying and having a horrible message. There is a reason why cheaters are often showed getting punished, and it is because they DESERVE it. Without it, it feels like the message is that it's okay to "explore yourself" AKA, Cheat, and it will all work out in the end or that it's not wrong. It almost feels like it is trying to normalize cheating, which we do NOT need more of.
Additionally, Samuel is AWFUL. He is supposed to be sexy, but he comes off as anything but. I am attracted to men and am very submissive, but he was the complete opposite of attractive to me. His voice lines are dry, low energy, and makes him come off as socially inept and quite frankly, autistic. How anyone could find this dry husk of a man attractive enough to cheat on with is beyond me. He cant even hold a normal conversation without sounding like he is bored out of his mind and comes off like the personality of a disgusting redditor or discord mod.
The main character is unlikable and never receives justice for her actions, and the movie tries to portray her as just exploring herself when she deserves punishment for what she did. The movie tries to make it seem like their relationship is "abusive" when it is anything but. These are both grown ass adults who fully knew what they were doing. They deserve the full wrath of the consequences. The only good people in this movie to watch was the husband, the dancing younger daughter, and the black women coworker. Every other charachter was disgusting, awful, and utterly hatable. 0/10, would never reccomend.
Your comment about Samuel coming off as autistic is extremely ableist. You’d be suprised by how many autistic people belong to the bdsm community, being both dominants and submissives.
@ He is simpily extreamly unattractive to me.
@@TheLudmilita 'extremely' ablesit?? You mean, like an athlete??
@ honey, look for “ableism” in the dictonary. If you relate “ableism” to am athlete, you clearly don’t know what ableism means.
I feel like this was more of a romcom, but without much comedy. Halfway through the movie I was begging for it not to add more thriller and horrible crazy ending with punishment. Because it didn't feel like this deadly lust and manipulation, film noir kind of demise. It was real intimacy with both characters exploring something about themself, being vulnerable and gentle to each other, well not without power play.
In the end it felt much more emotional, than steamy, much more melodramatic then thrilling. And I kinda like that
Can you do an analysis on the Korean drama When The Phone Rings?
My mom thinks that this movie is bizarre!
The guy she had an affair with was not even attractive to begin with.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Thank you! Who is cheating on Antonio Banderas?
Right ? No thanks.
Hard disagree, that man is a 10/10
I genuinely did not understand his appeal so I couldn’t buy into the affair at all. That is all my friend and I could talk about when we left the theater. What is so engaging about him?
hi
Seems like a boring movie honestly
It's very insulting for a rich, privileged woman to make a fantasy out of the same treatment less fortunate women experience every day. However, the film is well made and Kidman played the role of an unlikable main character very well. She truly was pathetic. Especially liked the scene where she's telling the other ceo guy to eff off.
This is one film I will not be watching. Older men have always been my predilection because I value a mature point of view.
the point of this film is for Nicole Kidman to prove she's still desirable, something she clearly cannot let go of based off how much plastic surgery she gets. being attractive should be the least interesting thing about you jfc can y'all come up with something else????
also only thirty percent of women can orgasm vaginally that's what y'all's problem is. also the man may just not care about you or you need to communicate better whatever. it's not really surprising if you just know that one fact
I think she should retire already.
I’m just grossed out by Nichole, it’s like there is no other actress in Hollyweird
It was hard to watch. Not just because because Nicole Kidman’s hella old-literally almost my grandma’s age, but because I went to see it with my mom😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖