Sport Copter M2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2022
- Mark from Skywagon University is with the man Jim Vanek as he introduces the Sport Copter M2.
Check out Skywagons.com website and tell them GYROGERALD says do more gyro videos for America. This Sport Copter seems to fly like a dream and Jim can put it through its paces for sure. - กีฬา
So nice to see the M2 update. Spoke with Jim and he is so fun to talk to. Great vision.
That machine has come a long way. Beautiful.
Why have we Not seen any new videos/ “Progress” with the “Sportcopter” since this video / 2022 ? This aircraft really appeals to me , so many thoughtful wise design choices.
The new shape of the fuselage is very nice looking.
How cool is that. He was a customer of mine back in the 90's-2000's so happy to see him still at it. I'll have to plan a trip up to say hi
Excellent
These are beautiful and amazing machines. I just love the first class engineering, it is oozing out of these Sport copters. A real advance, a real flying machine.
Nice turning radius.
GREAT JOB ,,GREAT SHIP!!!
Now that's a GYRO Mate !!
I made a call 35 years ago to Jim, his father Chuck answered the phone, told me to come on down "We'll show you all about". That day changed my life! Super great to see the result of dedicated perfection Jim!!!
Comprehensive independent thinking always made Vanek's machines special.....a "Thinkings Mans" (or women) choice for sure!
Best to you, Kelly & family Jim.
omg - wish i could afford one o these!!! - absolutely great gyro
I believe it was Neil Armstrong who when asked, "What went through your mind just before the Apollo launch?".
His response was, "The main thought was that 'Here I am sitting at the top of something that was made by a bunch of the lowest bidders.'"
Very cool. Thank you for sharing 👍
Please share
Very nice
Amazing 😍 😍 😍
Great video
I want one!!!
Like this a lot!
Hopefully getting mine in December.
Great. What is the engine in yours going to be ? Have you heard anything about the Aeromomentom Engine .Has it been tested etc.
Mine will be the Honda 195hp
HERMOSISISIMO cuando sea grande me gustaria tener uno para pasear
I want one...or a really nice Ultralight. I'm a 12,000+ hour guy, Dual ATP (RW/FW) What has kept me up at nights is that I'm just not sold on the Rotor integrity. I've found serious voids in blades costing 80,000$ dollars each...from manufacturers that have limitless R&D assets...so I'm concerned how these blades are built ...and will hold up.
Seems like guys with lot of hours in fixed wing who get a quick endorsement in Gyrocopters are the ones crashing on takeoff.
Most of the blades are well enough made. Many are WAY too big. Most other brands are seriously overweight. You should have a look at the actual stats on in flight blade failures. (There have been a couple) but most people crashing are doing so because because they know nothing about blade handling or management. This guy knows his stuff, notice we wound them up by wind. Its what we all used to do. Once you know how its madness to put on a rotor brake and taxi several hundred meters then wait at the end of the strip and wind up. He's not only saving his pre-rotator but also managing the rotor. You want to worry about blades worry about what happens to a set of 28ft rotors bumping several hundred meters over a bumpy strip jack hammering with every bump.
In flight the rotors are driven by the forward vector of lift across the blade so there is very little stress unlike a helicopter being driven from the hub and having massive twisting forces from root to tip. So the pre-rotate to huge rpm on the ground runs the risk of twisting. Its why I think so many have horrendous stick shake. When building rotors you do a stringline to check both blades line up with the center of the hub bar. Too few do it and think masses of stick shake is normal 2 per rev. Its not. I think the move to powerful pre-rotators might be causing a fraction of mm at the root resulting in out of pattern blades which essentially makes them out of balance.
Another advantage structurally is you cannot in positive G overload the rotors. Try as you might load up beyond about 2.5 g and the machine will simply mush. This is because the angle of attack of the blade increases which in turn increases drag and starts to slow the rotor, slowing the rotor washes off lift which means the rotors will only increase in rpm a certain amount before washing off additional lift the airframe mushes and just absorbs it. A similar move in a chopper with 8 or degrees pitch could over-slow the rotors. In a fixed wing pull back too hard and your wings fold up.
Choose your rotors well but many are extremely well made. Look for smooth sticks in flight. And don't go for the biggest blades you often loose more than you gain.
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Hope you guys do a new video. Would like to see how the Aeromomentum engine worked.
It is getting closer
A lot of Australian customers still waiting to see what they paid for nearly 5 years ago arrive in Australia
Maybe soon
A year on, have they arrived...?
Last I heard sportcopter was in a bad way and not working
@@gyropilot7191 that’s a shame, they had such a nice aircraft, sorry to hear about it…. unfortunately of course it is the way that most experimental producers go…
Let’s go. That’s bad ass
Nice little aircraft,but it would likely be louder than the heli our town uses,an EC120B Colibri,which the cops use at night,so it could not fly as quietly as the Colibri.
Rotor noise is significantly lower in gyros not sure about engine noise. It's running a rotax they aren't particularly noisey.
Er hat etwas wichtiges vergessen ..... ein Maschinengewehr !!!! 😉😉😂😂
What is the cost of this little bird?
When will it be certified?
I'm a gyroplane pilot. I'd sure like to see some aerobatics demoed in that machine
Aerobatics and autogyro? Hmm..
@@MichaelOfRohan th-cam.com/video/YGKtcSxtQGg/w-d-xo.html
@@davidmorris456 that was super, super dangerous. Im a physics student, so pardon my obvious degradation of patience. Chance is a mathematical ratio which resembles a logarithmic graph. You WILL crash flying like this. It is only a matter of time.
@@MichaelOfRohan Did you watch this video? 01:19
@@MichaelOfRohan i agree, not impressed with the airmanship displayed in this video.
I would love to have one of these for backcountry flying and camping, but the problem has always been useful load. With two people (pilot and the wife), gas and camping gear, there just isn't enough to make it safely work. It's a shame because i'd jump all over it.
It will carry plenty of fuel in the tanks, but you are correct on there not being much room inside etc.
@@GyroGerald Wasn't he going to be offering cargo pods?
So what’s happening with production, I understand people have paid deposits and no aircraft. It’s been years now, so what’s happening?
Nice video. Next time it would be safer if you had two-way comms with the drone operator. JMO
That's almost as complicated as an actual helicopter.
Kinda but the rotors do not adjust they are fixed on a Gyroplane. The rotors are not powered, Plus there is no rear rotor just a rudder etc.
I sorta believe it. The gyro is simple but it's a critical design in some ways.. I really like what I see in Sport Copter. Especially the landing gear and airframe design. If I win the lottery I'll be at the factory really soon .
It might look like it. But that falls away the more you compare the gyro to helicopter. Everything on both needs very careful and regular inspection. But the helicopter has a lot more critical and expensive parts to maintain.
Whats the takeoff length
how many hours before main rotor blade retirement.
Back in the day we had no total retirement time. Gyro blades have very little stress in flight as they are driving themselves unlike a chopper which is being driven with masses of twisting from the root. All the forces stop the gyro rotor from abusing itself in flight unlike a chopper which needs constant and critical care throughout flight. however the modern pre-wind up to 220rpm then gun it is I think not great. Additionally as most of these guys taxi with rotor brake on (because no one knows how to wind blades up anymore other than Jim and the old blokes) this especially of rough grass strips means you have often massive rotors up to 30 ft diameter wanting to stay put while the airframe jackhammers up and down. This is not good for the rotor head the hub bar or the blades. No one did this back in the day we all taxied with rotors spinning.
That's actually what impressed me most here. He is winding them up and spinning them up normally while taxiing. Because a) he can and b) its much better for everything. This is how everyone should do it and the only reason they don't appears to be that instructors no longer know how to wind up rotors from scratch. I'd be willing to bet this is a big part of the reason so many of the european machines end up mangled messes.
Bnt ba Ita Hotu,ohin loron era tecnologia makas há ideias hodi fábrica helicóptero.
What is this gibberish?
Who was the first helicopter pilot? How he learned to fly a complicated machine like helicopter!?
Well gyros were before choppers. The Germans developed the first which had double counter rotating blades which removed much of the complication but they were bombed out during WW2 so it was Sikorsky who flew the first modern choppers but many versions existed with some success in the 1930's. Sikorsky believed all engineers should test fly their own machines that way bad engineers eliminated themselves. He used tethers at first but also crashed a lot in the early days. But these were hovering accidents a few feet from the ground. So he'd brush himself off re-design and go again. They were using gyroplane rotor head design as fully articulated rotors were developed a decade or 2 before choppers used them.
Drone pilot should’ve had commo with gyro ,,, fun stuff ,,, equal drone footage,,
Problem with these things is they can land very short but need a mile to take off so short landings in the wilds is a bit academic less u wana be stuck. I know it’s not a helo yet we need a jump version that can spin it’s rotor enough to jump with two people on board.
Jump version is out there but much more mechanics involved etc.
Lots of the older machines would get off much quicker because a) they were much lighter and b) they had much much shorter rotors. The bigger the blades the longer they take to get off. Its not uncommon for some of the machines to weigh 300kg empty weight. A rotax 583 powered single seater back in the day would be between 120-130kg empty weight and could fly with 20ft rotors. Here is a mate of mine in very light winds taking off on the taxiway. th-cam.com/video/36ogAzGGyG4/w-d-xo.html this is hand winding rotors. See how slow he is taxiing? This is because that's all the speed he needs to get the rotors to transition. This is miles better in terms of takeoff distance than pre-rotate to 220 rpm then try to pick up speed to match the rotor rpm and hence waste huge amounts of airstrip getting off.
This machine because it was so light only needed 20mph to get airbourne then climbing out at 30mph. Most modern machines weigh so much they are doing 45mph take off then climbing out at 60mph. This is why they use so much airstrip. This machine was designed by my instructor. Steve here and two other blokes build identical machines (they made a frame jig) so 4 identical machines my instructor though put on 20ft 7 1/2 inch chord blades these are 22ft blades and it got off quicker even than this and climbed better. He was always first to 500ft inspite of Steve here being very skinny.
Even my old VW would get off in 1/2 the distance of most gyros on 22ft 7 1/2 inch rotors not because of the rotors but because most machines are way too heavy on the nose. You look at the old Bensens they sat on the tail until you got into them. This means you didn't need the rotors to be turning as fast to lift the nose. When you lift the nose you get an extra few degrees and the blades scream up to speed. So the right position of the axle makes significantly more difference than disk size. People just want more pitch, longer rotors and they don't realize there is a massive cost to performance. Look at the specs of the Wallis machines and its performance. 20ft 4 inch diameter blades. And look at the take off distance. th-cam.com/video/RQMImcbbI_Y/w-d-xo.html the two stroke had even better take off performance th-cam.com/video/Tu_y0angRqY/w-d-xo.html .
So we don't need jump take off heads, we need to keep the bloody weight off our machines and get out of this cycle of bigger, taller, longer, heavier, more powerful and much much more expensive machines. My old VW cost me about $2500 to build (own wooden blades) I'd be willing to bet I was having as much fun as anyone else. Yep I'd have preferred a rotax 503 but couldn't afford the then $5000 price tag. Not reliable I had 4 engine related emergency's all handled without damage including 2 complete engine failures. So I can't wait until battery technology comes along so that I can make a machine 100kg empty weight with 50kg of that batteries and an hour total endurance. A paddock basher. Figure in 5-8 years the batteries will be there. Then we'll have 1 moving part engine and we can get back to light simple machines. But this one is nice.
Why are you taking off from and landing on a taxiway?
Only 2 runway ...15 and 33
I *really* don't like that T-handle - even if I had money for a gyro, that alone would put me off this one. Petty perhaps, but we all have our pet peeves!
Really? I would like to try it and see if much different
I like the looks of it. Of course I'm getting older and not as agile.. But also it has a lot less mechanical complexity than two sticks. There is less to go wrong and it might even save a little weight.
Did you see why he did it. Its to aid getting in and out. My old Bensen and many at my club had a t-bar like a motorcycle handle. I agree its ugly but the reason we did it (not like this one) is our instructor noticed in ground training (this was back in the era where that still happened), that when students got stressed they tended to pull to the right (if right handed) we figured it was tension in the arm pulling back and to the right shoulder so we encouraged t-bars. This meant if you stressed you pulled straight back not to one side. It worked. All these little things make a big difference.
This machine is quite high off the ground I imagine getting in and out would be far easier than trying to swing a leg over.
Well I am sold!! Now you need to figure out how to pay for one!!
The 105 of Gyro's
Looks great if you’re a 10 year old, or, a 4’10” old man!
It's my first time seeing a chopper that does not hover for take off...
Not a "chopper" , it's an autogyro or gyrocopter, needs forward airspeed to fly , blades , unlike a chopper , are fixed pitch.
It's not a chopper and in flight those blades are not powered.
Less expensive than helicopter by an incredible amount, Gyroplane is easier to fly and own compared to a helicopter 🚁
Gyro plane
@@gyropilot7191 technically they are called Gyroplanes not a girocopter. But most people know them as a gyrocopter. It is kind of like when you say I want a Kleenex Kleenex is a brand of tissue. The way Gyro Copter is a brand of Gyroplane
Looked like our host couldn't get out of that gyro fast enough. I can hear planes approaching or in the pattern wanting to land yet this guy is whipping around at 100 ' without a care in the world!
Yes well he's well inside their circuit and landing in the taxiway. I see a lot of these videos with guys flying exactly the same pattern as the fixed wings then doing a vertical descent from 1000ft seems like a good way to get a fixed wing up your arse. Seems to me fly a gyro like a gyro you have a 4:1 glide ratio (if that) stay in close and out of the way of everyone else, they likely won't see you we're near invisible up there.
@@cameronlapworth2284 Nearly a Cessna up the arse. Radios? th-cam.com/video/Ihj3p4ZAMaQ/w-d-xo.html
And when you hit the ground like a ton of bricks they can bury you in it .
Not once did this guy pick up a "check list or manual". I would not fly any type of air vehicle with out one.
I'm sure it was edited out. The checklist is above the windscreen.
Gyros have check lists. Nice short ones.
i was amazed at the lack of airmanship and the type of things he was doing around the runways.
Hello my name is abdullah and I am from Abu Dhabi the United Arab Emirates it's really amazing machine wish that I can fly it one day.
Although I am not a pilot but I'd love such machines they do miracles , kindly how can I contact you by email
Hi, did you try their website ?