Can Masterverse Beat MOTU Classics?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Join Jay as he stacks up the New Eternia He-man and Skeletor Masterverse figures to the MOTU Classics versions of the same Characters. MOTUC has long been considered the ultimate Masters of the Universe Toy Line. But, the continued improvements to Mastersverse has collectors wondering if this upstart line can compete or beat MOTUC. Watch this video and share your thoughts in the comments!
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So far, Skeletor and Beastman from New Eternia have been the best figures of the entire line for me.
The upcoming TwoBad and Roboto also look killer. That newer Beast Man finally made me a convert
Origins and Masterverse are kind of like Classics split into two lines to take more of your money. They're both cool but really I cant see them beating Classics. I will say the distribution and availability of the new lines are definitely a step up and just the simple fact that Classics is way too expensive on the secondary market to try to get into now.
all 4 look awesome! I do not own 1 classics figure! but looking at them side by side i can see masterverse giving them a run for there money. My eyes kept drawing to the classics he-man becauseof the colors we are so used to🙌, but the barbarian he-man looks outstanding beside him👍 I'm happy with these masterverse because I missed out completely on classics😔 but I'm thankful for my vintage figs and origins as well. Great review thank you🙌👏👏👏
When it comes to overall quality and just shear dynamic looks of the figures, Classics is still my number 1. If we’re going by affordability at the moment, then it’s Origins with that great nostalgia feel of the original figures. Masterverse are cool in their own right, but they’re no Classics.
Masterverse still has that MOTUR stink on it.
Classics weren't toys, they were overpriced collectibles.
@@Clay3613 - That is a pretty dumb take. Classics were $20-$25 for most of the run. Towards the end of the line, Mattle's ebay store had Classics for less $20-$10 each. Point Dread and Battle Ram sets were only $45 at one point.
And as far as them "not being toys", that is probably the dumbest part of your comment. Their durability alone gives them 5 out of 5 stars as a toy. They can be played with, bashed, thrown off a roof, and still be intact.
I'm guessing you don't have very many MOTUCs. You missed out so you want to bash them. Meanwhile you're left to pay your hard earned money for lame Masterverse figures with MOTUR styelization. Sucks to be you.
Yeah. Masterverse has produced some good figures, but Classics produced a more or less definitive figure of almost every character. I doubt Masterverse will ever get as deep on the bench as MOTUC did either. For people getting into collecting now though, Masterverse is easily the more practical option.
Started collecting MOTUC from day one, so I have A LOT....and so far, I'm definitely loving the new stuff more, like New Eternia. They're just by far superior action figures. Classics were excellent at a time, but they're obviously very dated now. No ball jointed upper torsos, the ugly single jointed knees and elbows, no ankle rockers on most, no interchangeable hands, huge pins, proportions not matching the source material as much as New Eternia, etc.
So even though I recognize what Mattel is doing now is objectively better in every way...I still overall prefer the Classics (and even Filmation) stuff more. Maybe one day it'll be different...but like others have said, I doubt this new line will _remotely_ come close to what Mattel achieved back then.
Mattel needs to sell again the classics figure line in stores. Just make new arms and legs with double joints to attach to the classics torso and reuse the weapons, armors, heads accessories to save on production cost.
I 100% agree. I bought A He-Man and Skeletor in the last year and a half. They are short and stout 4-5 inch figures made to look like the 80's figs but, with some modern articulation that are cheap. Wish I could get that motu classic for a reasonable price.
I only started collecting again the past couple of years. I learned about the current when the netflix show came out. And a few months ago about the 40th ann. He-Man will be coming out. I wanted to get as soon as it was available. Just now, from this video, I realized it's a 7" line. I've been wanting 6" more natural proportioned He-Man for a while now. Iaslo just learned, from this video, that exactly what I wanted came out more than a decade ago. But, is not affordable.
It's been over a decade, all those molds are at the bottom of Hong Kong harbor.
@@ccggenius I heard something like that, as well. Old molds are sold to whomever, to hang off ships being dragged along under water. But, I forgot what was said to be the purpose.
@@ccggenius I feel I've seen some of the classics molds reused in origins so they aren't *ALL* gone. Like reusing Keldor's head sculpt as well as reusing the dragon from Dragon Blaster Skeletor in the Masters Of The WWE Universe line.
@@Psychof1st The "purpose" is that it's EXPENSIVE to store a hunk of steel the size of a sedan for an extended period of time, especially if there's no guarantee you'll ever use it again. It's the same reason cruise lines sold a ton of perfectly good ships for scrap at the start of the pandemic.
@SparkleWolf404 I imagine there's a cost/benefit analysis they use on a case by case basis. I'm just repeating what the guy who was brand manager for Classics says happens to the stuff, because he WOULD know.
Ah, man, when you first pulled out those MOC Motuc figures, my buttwallet clenched! This may be the most expensive video you've done!
I've been cherry picking Masterverse, and have about a dozen MOTUC figures, and I think this is a great alternative for those who can't/don't want to pay Classics prices. Paying $20 for an awesome Fisto vs. $500 is a no-brainer! As someone who missed out on the subscription (was living abroad at the time.) It's also been really fun to follow the line from the ground floor, as it were!
I'm most excited about what's coming: Battle Armor He-Man, Zodac, Hordak and She-Ra, NE Beast Man! Everything's coming up Masterverse, haha!
We're in the same boat. I had begun to grab up a Classics here or there on the secondary market, but anything Masterverse comes out with at this point will likely be my version on the shelf. They are good enough for the price point.
@@RisingBean That's great, man! I agree, and they seem to be improving with each wave with more paint detail and accessories.
Another benefit is that I can keep my more expensive MOTUC/200x figures MOC, and not feel guilty about opening these ones!
@@sdaeley17 Keep your eye out, I've managed to find almost all of the Masterverse figures on clearance for around $10 each, usually.
@@LastBastian Thanks!
@@sdaeley17 Indeed. I'm also really happy with the New Eternia reimagined designs..
Team Masterverse all day!
I think Masterverse has incredible potential. We're only four waves in and Mattel has made improvements in the hip joints and started to move away from Revelations (which apparently is stopping some people from picking these up). They're going with a beefier torso for 40th anniversary He-Man and actually use wired capes on regular retail figures. The New Eternia figs give you multiple display options right out of the box and we're getting a 9 inch tall Beast Man! I hope to see much more Masterverse, especially New Eternia, in the future.
You think it has incredible potential and we’re 4 waves in with only like, 3 good figures? This skeletor does look tight tho
Masterverse is the line for me. Classics were great and amazing that the community got behind it and made it what it was but the figures themselves are all the same Buck with it being a gross buck imo lol the ab crunch is bad the shoulder to bicep is gross and there were so many problems from weak ankles and others and I haven't found a problem with Masterverse yet. Articulation is key for me and Classics were trash imo when it came to that. Masterverse is offering soft goods and extra hands so everyone isn't giving a thumbs up... Masterverse is also hitting all areas of MOTU just like Classics. Packaging is great but we have Origins for that Classics look so I don't mind as well as Masterverse you can put back in the packaging and when you open a Classics figure the box is trash afterwards. Yeah I go with Masterverse
I disagree. Classics line is superior to the Masterverse line.
Origins has ETERNIA so best
@@badcommentbot8349 That's a mess and Overpriced also never wanted it to begin with. The figures are too childish
@@edstar83 Classics are disgusting lol I know I have em. Ugly buck ugly hands and just an ugly figure overall. Beasts are great and so are the castles. The rest is trash lol
@@hannibalking6366 Yeah well so do I. I have every single figure since I was collecting from the 2008. You're just saying that because you missed out on 90% of the collection because you're a late comer. Classic coping mechanism.
Classics are the definitive MOTU action figure line. The buck is a better proportioned version of the vintage buck with better articulation. If they were so "ugly" The fans wouldn't of kept that line alive for over a decade when Mattel kept threatening to cancel if they didn't sell enough subscriptions and didn't hesitate to cancel their other lines such as Ghostbusters classics, DC Universe Classics, Voltron Classics ect. But nice try dude.
Fxck The Classics! I’m all For The Masterverse series🤘🏼
A great combination would be if Masterverse had the bulk of Classics , they already beat Classics with Articulation! it would be the Best of both Worlds!
Agreed, they need to be bulkier but I think they have updated the buck which is coming on the 40th anniversary He-Man
Articulation to motuc ?? Huh?
The motuc Def has the better muscle arms and they have that sturdy feel but MV still pretty cool. Origins still my favorite. Tugs at the heart strings like in 82 when I was 6.
I have around 60 pieces of Motu classics toyline and I recently bought the Revelation figures.
I have to say, Masters of the universe Classics still the best over Masterverse.
We need to ask to Mattel to reprint classics again 🤣.
Joke a part I love Masterverse too, but I still thinking Motuc are superior although Masterverse are very good stuff too.
Yeah, they really captured lightning in a bottle with Classics, but it goes to show how different the production process is for a collector vs. retail line!
Great review! I’ll have to hunt for that Masterverse Skeletor. 💀
It has potential. Classics was amazing but that doesn’t mean it can’t be improved upon. I think Masterverse is finding its feet (this happens to all lines after the first few figures) Remember the issues which plagued Classics? Most were resolved over the years. I’m enjoying Masterverse so far, I love what they are doing, I do wish the 4HM were still on sculpting duties however that doesn’t mean there are not better sculptors out there. The sculpts on the MV figures are ok-to very good.
I’m optimistic !
I think this is a really solid take!
The 40th anniversary he-man figure box has the exploding red rocks.
MOTUC has the advantage so far because of longevity of the line and that the designs were pretty much the vintage line in 1/12 scale with added articulation and "proper" proportions. Masterverse is using the body bucks off of the Netflix Revelation series, so no matter what variation they do (aside from the CGI kids show figures) the proportions will be a bit weird. That being said the female bucks starting with the Vintage inspired Teela and upcoming Catra and She-Ra look way better than MOTUC. A better comparison will be the 40th anniversary He-Man that will release later this year because that does have some updated sculpting in the torso and the face is almost spot on to the vintage figure, so I would suggest you revisit this comparison when that figure comes out. .
Masterverse to me it is select figures that hit the mark and I use to fit in with my Classics collection. The main two being Scare Glow and Stinkor.
You and me both! They look great alongside my Classics and 200x figures!
New Eternia Skele looks cooler than Classics Skele. Sry... 🤷♂
You shouldve wait for 40 years special heman
That new skeletor is dope didn't even see the extra head till now
I see it as Classics came and went and many people didn't get any of them for whatever reason. So this is a second chance at a Modern and very articulated line. Masterverse figures look great and they are only getting better
Unfortunately yes, I only say that because before masterverse. I was paying secondary market for the classics I have. So I feel a lil shit on for how much I spent vs what is now on store shelves
Although many figures of Masterverse have surpassed their Classics counterparts yet, the Classics will always have something going on for themselfes. It's a reallly awesome line and it's cool if you have them.
For starters Masterverse will never last as long as Classics did to be as all inclusive with characters from all eras. I'd be surprised if Masterverse is still around in a year or so. Personally I'm not as keen on the design of Masterverse as much either. Proportions look a little off.
Masterverse is great for collectors who missed Classics. Not quite classics but good enough for anyone who missed out. And I agree, Masterverse will probably fade out at the end of 2023 (They have releases set up thought june 2023).
@@Bradman77 Couldn't agree more. Honestly, that's long enough for me, my wallet, and my available space!
my Walmart just got rid of all He-Man , origins & classics,
Did you collect classics when they came out? The masterverse will probably be people's go-to for those late to game.
Masterverse Two Bad and Grizzlor are already better than their Classics counterparts IMHO. And I just dig Dark Lyn. Hope they can continue this trend. In any case, it's definitely a quality and interesting step up from the Netflix cartoon Masterverse line.
You "really" needed to wait till later this year to do this specific video once the 40th line had released its first two figures. 40th Anniversary He-Man An the now leaked 40th Skeletor figure with the improved buck body parts an vintage packaging.
there may have to be a Part 2 to this!
Too big for my likes my local vintage toy store has all these at a good price but I like the original size so Origins is all I'm in for even though I wish I didn't because it's too difficult to get them all. I just paid $60 for a sealed Origins Roboto off Ebay.. which is RIDICULOUS..
Yeah, Origins availability has been pretty hit and miss, but Damn! $60!?! ...you know he's $20 on BBTS pre order right now?
Yep masterverse figures are definitely getting there for price can't complain, but I don't think they'll ever b as good as the Super7 Ultimates Figures in particular Ultimates Skeletor I mean that figure looks like it came straight from the cartoon into our hands
Yeah in general the Club Grayskull FILMATION looks great with the exception of Teela and She-Ra for obvious reasons. But this Revelation line is meh... look how cheap and Inaccurate look He-Man and Skeletor .. booth have a real downgrade about how they look at the new cartoon
That image of John, laughing, is what I picture whenever he comes up with another miraculous find on eBay or at Goodwill.
Hahah thats a good take!
The proportions of the Masterverse Viking He-Man are way better than the Classics, IMO. But the head sculpt on Masterverse is so bad. I don't mind the helmeted head as much but still just not there.
Have you checked out the 40th anniversary Masterverse He-Man? Man, I love that guy, such a great fig.
I'm glad to hear Masterverse can compete with Classics! Now I can pick up faves that I might've missed!
they can't
It will never happen. Classics were designed by The Four Horseman!!! 🤣 Some of those Masterverse figures look cool, like that Skeletor you featured here.... but that line will never come close to Classics... in particular character designs and quality of figure. Imo, Classics is the GREATEST toy line to ever exist and nothing will ever touch it. A very cool video and I enjoyed watching! 🙌🐀
Believe it or not, I have never opened a Motu Classics figure.
I have a few hundred figures still in their packages!
Time to let them things breath!! lol
I'm one of the few that already like some Masterverse figures more than their classics counterparts. Stinkor, Spikor, Savage Heman, this NE Skeletor and dare I say, even King Grayskull are better in masterverse than classics. Sure, Motuc still holds the edge but maybe not for long. It's really exciting to see where Masterverse is heading and they are outdoing themselves with every figure they release.
I can't disagree with you on these thoughts, they really do stack up better than I think most will give the line credit for.
I 100000 percent agree. And even some other figures such as man at arms and fisto, while not as good as classics....are still great figures..especially for the price point
@@raykincaid684 Some folks for some reason are holding on for dear life to the believe that no other motu toy line could ever be better than classics, to the point that they say masterverse are horrible, which is just silly and not very objective. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that they want to keep the value of their classics figures since they already invested so much money to get them, which is fine, but to not accept that masterverse is doing some great things is just crazy.
@@omisokaomisokas5095 Exactly!!
@@omisokaomisokas5095 bro I look at every masterverse figure when they come out. They’re peg warmers. I have 2 eyes that can see and I know what these characters are supposed to look like. They look like they’re made of cheap plastic. They’re shiny with little detail and the proportions are way off. The sculpts look bad in general, besides stinkor. Masterverse is stylized as well. Motuc is timeless because they respect the original toys or designs for the characters. Even these other replies are saying “yeah they’re not as good as classics, but...”
aaaand that’s why classics are expensive
Love it. Agree that the new Skeletor rocks. In my opinion though Masterverse He Man looks better. I think the shield is why you like MOTUC He Man better.
The Filmation “He-man” and “Skeletor “ from MATTEL are the ones that are truly worth having.
I got the Super 7 ones as soon as they were announced cause I knew they would be favorites. And I had them signed by Roger Sweet and Alan Oppenheimer!
@@sdaeley17 awww fancy!!! That’s what’s up. I saw SUPER7 version and that “he-man” plastic is too shiny. I’m not sure why they didn’t do a matte finish.
Yeah they’re great. I picked up duplicates of every animated version of the motuc he-man and skeletor. I love all those animated figures
Absolutely! It's baffling their existence wasn't even mentioned, unless I missed it. I mean they're definitely the best versions ever.
I’m curious why you bypassed reviewing articulation and gave it to MOTUC when Masterverse is double jointed and pinless?
New Skeleton is nice and New HeMan look good Nice good job love Dwight 👍
yep, that Masterverse Skelly rocks
ya um these new figures are pretty badass so far
I only started collecting a few years ago, I own a few of the filmation classics and they cost me a lot more than I would have like to have paid.
That said I can see why so many collectors covet them as the grail.
I’m not a fan of masterverse the proportions are way off faces ugly.
Loving the Origins figures based on variety, action features, price and vehicles. Unfortunately as they are cardback and I’ve opened them I don’t feel that they will hold any value.
I’ve ordered some of the 40th anniversary stuff which I’m hoping come out great.
It's been a while since nobody remembers Classics anymore because Masterverse has brought back new fans who have now fallen in love with the new figures and the series. It is ridiculous to read so many complain instead of moving forward and not staying in the past embracing their figures as if they were the perfection of design made by the gods of Olympus. Let's leave immaturity behind and let's all enjoy the return of the champion of Eternia!
What's funny is that some characters are better in each line. I picked up Classics Tri-Klops and Trap Jaw on the secondary market and also have the Masterverse versions. I like Classics Tri-Klops more based on his eyes being Green, Blue and Red as opposed to the same color on the Masterverse version. Trap Jaw on the other hand looks a bit better in the Masterverse (provided you keep his jaw shut.)
Interesting comparison! I collect mostly MOC, so I couldn't handle "Trap Kermit," haha. I would have loved if Tri-Klops had the multi-colored eyes, but his head seemed oversized to me. (Also, it was way easier to convince the fiance' to get me a $30 figure for Christmas than a $200 one!)
I kinda wish most of these figures were handled like Tri-klops and Trapjaw with multiple looks and accessories (especially Beast Man and Mer-Man) but Mattel'd prefer we buy multiple figures than spend a little more on ones that have everything we want.
@@sdaeley17 Boxes are resealable like Marvel Legends. You can "MOC" Trap Jaw by cutting one piece of scotch tape, closing his mouth and then the box. If you don't have him elsewhere, I'd recommend it. As far as Tri-Klops, I believe his head is a bit big, but the varied eyes still edges him out. As far as the ladies, Mine got me Cyborg Skeletor. She's a gem. I'm with you on the deluxe stuff. Since Mattel isn't doing that, I'm just using the lesser versions are army builders. I'm gonna have a ton of various Beast Men mauling Mekanek on the shelf, I guess.
@@RisingBean oh, no! Poor Mekanek, haha!
Regarding Trap Jaw, that's a real simple and elegant solution! (Crap! My wallet! ;)
That's great you have a supportive partner. It makes a world of difference with this hobby!
Is Cyborg Skeletor the New Adventures/Intergalactic version?
Really stoked for the next waves of NE figures like Zodac and Jitsu, and the last of the Revelation figures like Roboto and He-Ro. And I really wanna see what a Deluxe NE Mer Man would look like, cause the Mondo version is getting crazy expensive!
@@sdaeley17 I feel you. I just had a BBTS shipment come out and the taxes.....criminy. As far as supportive partners, I agree. I used to just store stuff now I have a room where I open it and enjoy it. Cyborg Skeletor is indeed the New Adventures version. I'm waiting on all that stuff too. Tomorrow I should be getting New Eternia He-Man, Skele, and Teela and MerMan from the same wave.
@@RisingBean That's awesome, man! Enjoy the haul! I picked up Barbarian Skelly and Teela myself!
Hmmm, I definitely prefer the New Eternia Skeletor over the Moe To Sea one. But still, you gotta love them Moe To Sea figures...they're what relaunched He-Man figures into the future.
Thanks Jay! Miss you guys!
Amazing work as always my friend! We need you back on soon!
That upcoming deluxe Beast Man is poised to redefine what a top tier MOTU figure is going to be. He looks absolutely amazing, easily beating MOTUC Beast-Man.
Right out of the gate though, you didn't knock the MOTUC He-Man for the reversed shoulders, and that's the Vizine version so that had the reversed shoulders. A ton of people got crap ankles on King Grayskull, which is why both of those figures eventually got re-releases to fix the problems, and to this day, I have the Green Goddess' limbs in a bin waiting for me to fix her exploded crotch.
My point being, shiny plastic or no, Masterverse has already proven itself better in the QC department, MOTUC struggled with weak ankles throughout the line, and the male figures didn't even get real side to side motion, they wobbled a bit breeches they weren't well constructed. The loin cloths were frequently too hard to show for forward leg poses, the hair on the girls was often too hard to enable head posing... which I'm not saying Masterverse has perfected, but so far, i think they're beating MOTUC in those considerations. There were absolutely things MOTUC did better, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as your summary suggested.
Its funny at the beginning of the video when you said I went out an bought some Classics, like they're easy to find and a person doesn't have to take out a small loan to buy some of them!!😱
In a word, yes.
Each Series gets better. The articulation is better. The paint apps would be the area it may not be AS good as, but they can hold their own. MOTUC are great for moc and vanilla posing. I had them all and loved each one, but the articulation even then was badly outdated. Masterverse has better articulation and things we sorely needed like more accessories, more alt heads and more alt hands.
I wish Mattel brings back the Motuc line
It's very subjective at this point, but I've already sold some of my Classics in favor of Masterverse. I haven't been able to bring myself to sell He-Man and Skeletor yet, but yeah, that New Eternia Skeletor might br able to sway me when I find it.
Original retail was 20.00 for classics right? Why would anybody compare aftermarket prices years and years after to current retail? The logic is missing on that comparison for sure.
Yeah I debated how much time I should spend on how much they cost originally. In the end I didn't want to dwell on it too much as it represents the comparisons "today" vs. if you bought them a decade ago. But I did mention how the weight of the cost swings dramatically if you bought them when they first came out.
@@GeekDadLife I think that's an easily overlooked point. People were spending $25-$30 when they first came out. Super 7 raised the price to $50 to give us essentially the same thing, maybe more accessories. I honestly feel that's the price Mattel would have to start at in order to give the same quality today, accounting for inflation. And no retailer would accept that!
Awesome video! Very helpful
Masterverse has newer pinless joints which look nicer.
That articulation point is a cop out, but I loved this video!
When i swallowed the giant pill of paying, what was it , $350 for Castle Grayskull, all i could think is "why didn't they just make these the same size as the original"...they heard me and made the 2020 line and now i'm going to have to buy them all over again. argh, mattel. you're wicked.
Can’t wait for the barbarian versions!
Great video! I just recently stopped collecting Masterverse. I was constantly comparing them to Classics, so I bit the bullet and started collecting MOTUC, such a great line.
The best he-man and the masters of the universe figures are the 1980's vintage he-man figures. The remakes from origins, revelations ect. are great but the best will always be the 1980's Vintage he-man figures. I have about 32 vintage he-man figures so far. I also have some origins and revelation figures as well.
I’m finding the Masterverse female faces are a lot better than classics so far
With rising prices of toys, poor quality, and the fact that lines just don't last as long as MOTU Classics, I don't think we will ever experience something like that for MOTU again.
MOTU Classics barely made it to retail and was overpriced for the time.
They will keep bringing out lines until an asteroid hits and these things are worthless
@@Clay3613 The line was never mrant to be retail. Online subscription based only. The line was around for over 10 years from 2008 until 2019 kept alive by the fans. Classics line has a huge Castle Grayskull and Snake Mountain.
Masters of the Universe Classics was fantastic. The impact is secure; it essentially set the stage for MOTU's arrival as a Legacy IP even though it wasn't retail based. And did so with quality figures. ... However it's not untouchable as far as making better figures - and I'd think anyone that is looking for anything further would welcome it being "outdone" in that regard. Masterverse ain't gonna be the line to do it though ( according to my taste anyway) with that current buck. It is cool to see some stronger figures coming out though; specifically on the New Eternia end. But picture New Eternia with the proportions of Vintage, the sculpt & detail of Classics, design elements from 200X, & the swapability of Origins/Masters of the WWE.
I've got to say that I agree about that Skeletor. He really does look fantastic. I'd like to see you compare the 40th Anniversary Multiverse He-Man (when it comes out) to the MOTUC He-Man to see if that one does better.
Yeah that skeletor does look good, I’m ashamed to admit. I picked up stinkor and that was it...but I might have to get that skeletor
Masterverse are great line for newer collectors or for people who missed on the classics run. These are decent figures for people on a budget. Origins is still my favorite of the three tho.
Once again, Glatfelter out here makin' me spend that *caish*! I definitely need a New Eternia Skeletor.
I'm sorry my friend! lol
@@GeekDadLife That's why I tune in, brother. That's why I tune in.
It looks like Target has been trying to get rid of the Masterverse line. They had Teela wave 4 for $10. I've picked up He-Man, Skeletor for $13, Faker for $18, Trapjaw for $20. It doesn't look like they're going to do anything with the wave 5 toys. You can nab them off of Amazon, BBTS, and EE for preorders at full price but I haven't seen any listings for the retail stores. I'm not sure what's going on but something is up. I'm also not a fan of how they're sneaking in a few accessories just to charge more for Hordak and She-Ra. It feels underhanded. They're doing the same thing with Dr. Mindbender. With inflation, things are bad as it is, I don't really want them squeezing an extra five or ten from me.
Masterverse looks so much better imo 🤷🏻♂️
not He Man tho
60th anniversary He Man is the best He Man now. Beats Classics.
This He-Man is really more like a Mark Taylor version homage. IMO, the 40th anniversary He-Man takes the win over the MOTU Classics He-Man.
It really isn’t about competition tho, the C line came and ended. Masterverse is just another attempt by Mattel to give newer and older fans these lovely characters.
I Think that the MOTU C are the best of the best in every MoTu toy lines figures, undoubtly , but, yeah the Masterverse Skeletor its an awesome piece that could compete with the Clsssic's Skeletor in a way, masterverse's Zodac its an awesome piece too and can compete with his MOTu C vertion, Buzzoff Masterverse is the only figure than can beat his classics counterpart.
Origins beats both... less expensive, great selection of characters, actually has vehicles.... and origins actually seem like toys that someone would play with not just collectibles that will be stuck on a shelf.
Origins will never be as all inclusive as classics was and the detailing is no where near as good.
@@JurassicRod I dunno... I don't think classics had the character and vehicle selection origins had when it was 2 years in.
And the origins toys are better because they are just that... toys... not some "adult collectible" that is only suitable for display.
@@maproomgaming6886 I do like the vehicle designs in Origins more than the Classics ones.
@@maproomgaming6886 Not in the first 2 years no but in the end it did. Origins will not last ten years to get the huge character selection Classics has. I've played around posing and fiddling with my Classics loads. Not sure how they are less capable of being played around with?
Those are all good points as I have almost all of them so far, but there is no comparison to the quality of classics. They’re beautiful
I had a habit during lockdown of drunk buying classics on ebay (in Australian dollars!). I wish there had been the cheaper masterverse alternative then!
Oh no! At least you got some sweet MOTUC figs?? lol
@@GeekDadLife Yup! Plus it was a reletivley small cost to survive 2 years of of the world's longest lockdown mentally intact lol (Melbourne, Australia).
@@jimmymanton85 Dude, my collection exploded during the pandemic. Then I watched Spector Creative's video on the psychology of Toy Collectors, how it's often an exertion of control, and was like, "ohhhhhhhhhh..." Hahaha!
@@sdaeley17 100% . It was more fun than hoarding toilet paper I guess lol
There are a lot of cool motu classics….I regretted not getting in on classics , but the masterverse is scratching that itch without the stupid prices….and now they are departing from revelations….even better!
I’m struggling every time I hear “MOTU-C” … “stop trying to make fetch happen”
I think some motu classic collectors don't like masterverse because they don't want to admit that after spending all their time money and energy on classics....there's a chance that a new line can come and be better. Masterverse versions of some figures are already better than classics...such as this skeletor....and it seems like they are getting better and better with every wave. Classics will always be an incredible line..but that doesn't mean masterverse won't give it a run. The fact that a retail line is competing with a premium collector line is proof enough that masterverse could be a potential threat
I don't understand why Mattel didnt keep the Masterverse line the same height as the classics line.
I might get the 40th masterverse He-Man and Skeletor.
i have almost all of the MOTUC, but I HATE the pinch-your-finger knees. Those things hurt!
For me Motu Classics is the best line and my favorite in every way over modern lines, I respect the opinions of others and whoever wants to buy them should do so, but with Motu Classics I finished collecting Motu because I don't need them.
That's fair, it is a incredible line.
if Mattel use a more classic head sculpt rather than the revelations heads, maybe
The N. E. Skeles head sculpt is more classics than classics. 😎
The issue of the new eternia line are these 2 first Heman releases, theyre horrible. But fixed now with the thunder punch Heman. But it would be nice to have a normal one
fast forward a year later and we now have the revolution heman... What say you of him? He is the 1st masterverse I have bought and am thrilled.
I tend to get what can afford if it's a good sculpt.
Thanks for the nice review! I actually have my MOTUC Ultimates displayed next to my very small selection of Masterverse figures. I don't hate them, but I also don't love them. Masterverse really got off on the wrong food by attaching itself to that miserable Nextflix show... Let alone that fact that both v1 He-man and Skeletor just look laughably bad. That said, they are slowly moving away from that, so I suspect I will get into that line just a little bit more moving forward. Still, Origins right now is the line to collect, imho. But if you absolutely have to have something in the 6-7" scale, I guess Masterverse are good enough.
nice review, thanks.
Has MattyCollector still got the power?
G.D.L., did u eventually kept the opened/loose/ re-bought Classics this time?? 😄😉
Yeah I've kept them, I dont know how im going to display them yet... but I've kept them lol
I think Mattel could have made these a lot better…they could have used the original classics buck adding the extra articulation and made them superior to classics. I am lucky enough to have a complete loose and MOC classics collection and I also collect the new line…but if I was starting off today and didn’t know how good classics are I would still be very happy with masterverse.
Classics are way superior IMO
Mondo he-man 2.0 is my favorite he man toy.
There is no way you can honestly give Articulation to Classics. Masterverse has more articulation and better range of motion at the joints and the joints are pinless. Therefore Masterverse wins Articulation and wins overall.
In my mind the "gummyness" of the articulation has been a problem for me and some of the figures get stuck in poses where they legs stick out or bow. But totally a fair point that the articulation is more modern, but in these examples the MOTUC figs where much more posable (again I wont argue too much against anyone who disagrees with this lol)
@@GeekDadLife I will admit there is some issues with the articulation of the wave 1 figures, but regardless on articulation count Masterverse still wins LOL.
Classics was a good line, but like DC Universe Classics hasn't aged well compared to modern lines. Other lines went to improvements like double jointed limbs, forward facing ankle pivot, and continue to evolve with new innovations. Things like painless joints. I don't really think they should be compared. To me it's like comparing the 2003 Ninja Turtles line to the 2012 Ninja Turtles line. But I get where people are coming from. They see it more like Toy Biz Marvel Legends to Hasbro Marvel Legends.
DCU Classics is still better than Toddy Macs offerings.
@@Clay3613 to each their own.
I feel the same. Love the skeletor but heman not so much.
In my opinion, sculpt and detail wise? No. Articulation wise? Oh, yes.
That stress mark is super easy to fix.
Teach me your ways!!
@@GeekDadLife I use this method and it's worked well for me.
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For smaller stuff I have used a regular lighter, but I hold it a few inches away from the plastic.
You didn’t compare articulation. Masterverse articulation is much better, plus painless joints.
I still have he-man skeleton and fisto still mint in box👍🏼🔥
Classics were made for adult collectors and this ones masterverse are more like a ordinary toy. We can't compare the quality of classics , I have around 40 figures from classics cause I started late but got the mains characters , I don't change them for nothing .
NGL the motuc packaging is terrible.