I primarily use my 56 degree wedge on shots within 40-60 yards of the green, except that I might occasionally use a 7-iron like a putter. I have kept the 60 degree wedge in my bag only for green side bunkers and flop shots over bunkers. Quite frankly, I don’t practice those shots as much as I should, but the 60 degree wedge gives me more confidence of at least getting the ball in the air, the alternative being to excessively open the face of my 56 and risk a miss hit. Great discussion that more people should be talking about. Thanks for this.
If it gives you confidence then go for it. I still keep my 60 degree in my bag because there are times, like you just said, when its the only thing that will work. But I have seen improvements in my scores when I limit how often I use it.
I have a high bounce cavity back 50° that hits eally well as an iron or pitching. I also have a 50° muscleback with near zero bounce that i can actually use for chipping, i can really get under that ball when opening up.
When I started playing at the age of 13-14, my most lofted club was a 9 iron. It taught me how to loft and de-loft clubs. I could get out of bunkers with it, pitch it, chip it, throw it high and far, hit a low stinger and play a flop shot. This was all without any coaching and long before TH-cam came along. Necessity was the mother of invention. I just how to figure out how to get the ball where I wanted with what I had to hand. I’m not saying everyone should do this but I think it gave me a great foundation in the short game. It’s where I’m still most confident on the course.
100 percent relate to this,,started at a local chip and putt and used a 7,8,9 all over the place hitting all kinds of shots alone. So much fun and what I'm best at today.
@@ragil09 I know you posted this last golf season, but I've been considering this andn have a serious question. So I have a Vokey 52 and 56 and a beautiful, shiny, and in almost perfect condition vintage forged Wilson 58° wedge, and i use it as my lob wedge. I found it at a garage sale when I first started golfing a few years ago, and this club is just is the best wedge I've ever used. I can rely on it for every single shot when I gave to get the ball in the air, even by the green, and it always lands close to the pin. It's the club I use when I want to show off and look like a short game pro. Idk why im so successful w/it. Maybe the club just happened to be the perfect length for me & the head of the club so goddamn heavy I sweep the ball up with a perfect shot every time I've even done it in tall weeded grass full of sticks and sht and the ground behind me was so impressed they cheered when it popped yo nxt to the flag. But for whatever reason club doesn't have the rounded club head a sand or new lob wedge normally would. So do you think it would stilk work for green side bunkers being regular iron shape? I'm successful with it in every other circumstance, and green side bunkers that are taller than my head are hell to get out of with a 56, & it's not as reliable as my 58. I was just wondering it the shape of the club head would inhibit a hit in the sand
I totally agree with you and have not carried a 60 degree for several years. You can open a sand wedge and flop the ball pretty well. I also don't play a ball that spins enough to take advantage of the 60 degree loft like the pros. I have found the same thing as you where the 60 degree causes more problems than fixes for myself and all of my playing partners. I'm always seeing them come up short or blading it across the green stating they don't practice enough with it. I find more benefit to carrying a 7 wood. I don't hit the ball far enough to play the bomb and gouge type of golf a lot of pros are playing now. Great thoughtful video!
Hey, I walked in at the start of this video and found this to be very much worth watching. I'm only about half way through and I decided to put this out there first. I am somewhat a rookie at the game but Im pretty good with the 60 degree, only because when I started I didnt know any better. I watched Phil and I perfected that high drop shot. Just recently people have compared me to phil in this regard. I like all that your saying about the clubs in the first half of this video as I have learned a lot of that just recently the hard way. Im sure the rest of this will be very informative. Thank you.
There's a stat in Arccos called "Chip/Pitch Down" which gives you a rough idea how you're doing around the greens. It's for shots under 50 yards. My best results come from 9i (42%), PW (56%), and Approach Wedge (45%). My chip/down numbers are pretty bad with 54º and 58º - 33% and 22.2%. But I think there are two reasons for that: I don't use them very much and when I do need to use them, it means something has gone very badly wrong and I'm facing an extremely difficult and low percentage shot anyway. Soft lob over a bunker to a tight pin on a fast green, etc. I see many, many weekend golfers who grab that 60º for every single shot inside 50 yards and it baffles me. They'll be just off the green or even on the fringe, chipping to a hole that's 50 feet away and try to flop it there. I don't get it. I guess, to them, it seems easier than trying to gauge the distance with putter or a 9 iron. I'll say this, though. Learning to bump and run the ball will cut strokes off your game. Fast. If you slightly mishit a long chip with a 60º wedge you're going to end up very far from the hole - short or way over the green oftentimes. On the other hand, you can mishit a 9 iron chip by QUITE A BIT and still end up with a makeable putt. I know! I do it all the time! Plus it teaches you to read the slope and speed of greens better, which, in turn, also improves your putting. A twofer!
you are smart!...ps guys with 4 or 5 wedges mention 4 or 5 distances they use them for..all they have to do is leave themselves a FAVOURITE(best) yardage to the hole .golf is not rocket science...ps2..95% of golfers are not really good enough for 4/5 wedges, but they think they are.
I´ve just bought a pack of 3 wedges Kirkland, 52, 56, 60 at Costco so I could have a 60 in my bag, but so far I´m losing confidence. This video has helped me understand the importance of get well informed before adquiring new clubs. Thanks
I totally agree: I stopped using my 58^ for full shots. Not only it randomly balloons, but also it doesn’t spin as much as my 54^. But I keep it for green side bunkers and when I’m really short sided and I have to get over an obstacle.
Like your take on this. Been doing fine with Pitch n Putter my whole life. Bump n run. The 60 is a tool I just added for the very short stopping shot that I could not do and I am hoping it doesn't complicate things. When you use fewer clubs you get to know them better.
So many instructors advise against a 60. There's exceptions. For reference I'm high handicap and golf a 90-100. A lob is my magic club. I'm so much more accurate and consistent with it that if I can place the ball 20-30 yards from the green I'm usually going to club down and try for 50-60 because my full lob swings going to do a better job than a pitch or a long chip. Try one out.
What would be great is to have conversations as a group and talk about different ideas with each other. Getting ideas or different prospective can lead to improvement with anyone...
Been golfing for 20 years. At best, as a weekend warriors, I was a 17 handicap. Just getting back into it after my kids travel softball and baseball weekends are done and now I'll break 100 half the time. I've learned a few things over this time. Long irons (3 & 4) and a lob wedge hurt the majority of us that play to have fun at golf. There is no need for them. Open up a sand wedge=lob wedge. Replace those long irons with hybrids or 7 n 9 woods. HIT EM STRAIGHT!
I'm almost 64 yrs old and have been playing golf pretty much all my life, but except for my teens, it has been sporadic. I was good enough at one time to be consistently in the mid-80s, whereas now, mostly because of inability to play often enough, my goal is break 100. I only carry 2 wedges, a PW and a 60° LW. Because I have more confidence in being able to control the PW, it's my go to almost 100% of the time. I use the LW for greenside bunkers and flop shots, usually pretty well. When I'm chipping, I rely on bump and run, depending in the circumstances with anything from a 5i to a 9i. Think I need to get a 54° wedge!
I have a lob wedge with a low bounce because different bounce is the only major difference between my SW and LW (of course loft also 55 to 60 degrees). I need two bounces so that I can play different surfaces and shots easily
My 60 is turned down to 57 with a 12* bounch, my 56 turned to 53 with 8* bounce which complements my A wedge at 48 with 8* bounce. I use all 3 wedges out of bunker depending on lie and distance control, also I use all 3 around the green depending on lie, type of shot I choose play with controland accuracy. My favorite is my 56* calloway Jaws, with 8 degree bounce turned down to 54*....If you practice with your wedges and get to know individual strength and weakness of each one, you'll find many different types of shots for each one, weather it be a high or low shot, opening those wedges up and creating lots of spin, or chock down to create less distance on full or semi full swing....Great video on wedges, now it's time to dile in wedges......18 handicapper.....
I use 50 and 54 for approach and 54 around the green. 60 to get around obstacles and approach when I need to stop the ball. 60 is fun to play when you get used to it but took lessons to master it. 54 is 12 bounce for fluffy sand and 60 is 8 bounce and I use it on packed sand. Most important thing that helped my game was making sure there isn’t a gap between 9 iron to lob and no more than 4-6degree gap between wedges. Also having a low bounce and high bounce in case of packed vs fluff lies.
I am a mid handicapper and I use my 56 from 100 to greenside. I do not take full swings with 9i, PW, AW or 56*. There have been times when I had to open the face excessively to play a flop shot and I blade the ball into narnia. I am 50/50 with my 56 and for this reason I am going to add a 60 to my bag. The rest of my bag is dialed on yardages and spin already so this is minor oversight I need to ammend.
Great analysis. Back in the day due to standard lofting, nobody really needed/used GAP wedges, Lob wedges...Pros did, but not your average player. They had the set, and a sand wedge at 56 degrees. Now? You probably need a GAP wedge with the stronger lofted irons and most guys would do well to skip the lob and stick to 54/56 10 degree bounce sand and just learn to hit it short/long/chip and run/etc.
This comment introduces a 2nd club we maybe don’t NEED. My general thought as a “high handicapper” is to have a 3 Wood and Lob Wedge in the bag, BUT then try to not have to ever use them. Sure I’ll practice them and experiment during some early bird back nine situations at my local course, BUT SIMPLIFY… Maybe learn how to use 10 clubs somewhat reliably over 14 clubs inconsistently. It leads to: Hit Driver off the tee Hit 5 or 7 wood off the deck Hit the 54 when not using the 46 or 50 (Cleveland CBX2) Hit the 58 (Cleveland Smart Sole 4) out of the sand or when you really think you need a little bump in height when inside 25-30 yards. My 54 has 12 degrees of bounce. I practice it and deploy it as my primary chip/pitch club. However I get in situations all over the course where I will lean on the 46, 50 over going the other direction by thinking everything needs to be “lobbed.” Loft is my friend on the long end of the bag (hit that 7W over line driving the 3W and killing gophers), but loft becomes my enemy when getting too cute on the short end. Obviously with great practice and course understanding anybody can make use of whatever club they like to get the job done. Any hybrid or a reliable short iron may get you where you want to go over both the “SW” and “LW” when it comes to certain short game antics.
Would love to see more of your ball comparisons. Your explanations in the Callaway comparison were great. As a newer golfer, I have no idea what to look for in a ball. (I know very early on that the ball isn't really the thing costing most strokes, but as I progress I'd like to learn more about the different balls and the implications on who might prefer them)
I carry 13 clubs and have both 55* (bent) and a 60* with the lowest bounce. I play on several conditions at different courses. Hard to fluffy sand. Soft to hard pan turf. Full to flop, low check to chip and runs. And pick up my ball to save my back lol
This should be interesting as I just picked up a new (used) club at Play It Again Sports for $12 It is a 60 deg lob wedge, with the most interesting area of he bounce area that is almost the size of a 5 iron and I saw this as a great Sand Wedge too I picked it up for that drop it on the green chipping over the trap and stopping it But I find it is almost impossible to hit it over 25 yrs even with a FULL SWING, I love it when used for the right shot Any shot I would think I could hit with a Sand Wedge I can hit with my Pitching Wedge
I’m a high handicapper but I got a 60 with 8 bounce early on and practiced with it a lot. I feel confident with it most of the time but on off days it can really kill my score. I’ve just picked up a 56 and a 52 both with 12 bounce hoping to try using them more than the 60. I do love finessing the 60 around the green, it feels great when it goes well but I think if I’m honest with myself my success rate Isn’t as high as I think it is. I’ll see how I go with the new wedges.
I play a local course with tiny domed greens that are really hard to hold. I often find myself 15-20 yds from the pin with zero chance of playing any kind of normal pitch shot. Needless to say...my flop shot has become an integral part of my game. I score in the low 80's and find my 60* wedge indispensable.
I had a 2i, SW, and LW made to match my set of Ping Zing2’s years ago. Lately, I’m getting back into golf after almost 2 decades off. I looked up the specs on my set and it turns out the LW is actually a 57° club. I don’t know that I’d gain short game control from a 60° wedge, but I’d like to see…although I’d have to drop the 2i & 3i and I hit them great
@@lifesaver3499 I’m going by a chart for the zing 2 irons. I don’t have a jig to check it physically. I’d upload the chart here but I don’t think I can add a photo
Same for me, I have found that a short shot with a short pin or shot over a bunker and lillte green the 58 is good. I really don't want to open the club face on my 54.
I can see both sides of it and why some people shouldn’t carry a lob and why others should. A better player will definitely want options in grind and bounce. For a newer player you’re probably better off carrying a 56 with 10 degrees bounce and a grind that is very versatile. I know this is an old video and I saw someone in the comments saying they got rid of their 52,56,60 and got a 58 to replace all 3. That’s a terrible idea imo. I could see dropping a 56 and 60 in favor of just the 58, but why on earth would you drop your gap wedge too? Now you go from your PW 45-46 degrees and then up to 58?! That’s a huge gap to deal with. You’re either trying to hammer your lob wedge or taking a lot off your pw.
Pros use lob wedges because the stimp on the greens they play are usually 10 or higher ..most courses pros dont play stimp is under 9 and actually when they roll them to 9 every non pro golfer talk about how fast they are. Lob wedges help cut down on the roll out on high stimp greens is only reason why pros use it. If you use a 60 degree on a 8stimp green or lower the ball will not roll at all
I primarily use my 56 degree wedge on shots within 40-60 yards of the green, except that I might occasionally use a 7-iron like a putter. I have kept the 60 degree wedge in my bag only for green side bunkers and flop shots over bunkers. Quite frankly, I don’t practice those shots as much as I should, but the 60 degree wedge gives me more confidence of at least getting the ball in the air, the alternative being to excessively open the face of my 56 and risk a miss hit. Great discussion that more people should be talking about. Thanks for this.
If it gives you confidence then go for it. I still keep my 60 degree in my bag because there are times, like you just said, when its the only thing that will work.
But I have seen improvements in my scores when I limit how often I use it.
I have a high bounce cavity back 50° that hits eally well as an iron or pitching. I also have a 50° muscleback with near zero bounce that i can actually use for chipping, i can really get under that ball when opening up.
do u know it is surprisingly easy to just chip over most bunkers with a 56 vs a lob with a 60?
When I started playing at the age of 13-14, my most lofted club was a 9 iron. It taught me how to loft and de-loft clubs. I could get out of bunkers with it, pitch it, chip it, throw it high and far, hit a low stinger and play a flop shot. This was all without any coaching and long before TH-cam came along. Necessity was the mother of invention. I just how to figure out how to get the ball where I wanted with what I had to hand.
I’m not saying everyone should do this but I think it gave me a great foundation in the short game. It’s where I’m still most confident on the course.
100 percent relate to this,,started at a local chip and putt and used a 7,8,9 all over the place hitting all kinds of shots alone. So much fun and what I'm best at today.
I sold my 52,56,60 wedges and got a 58 degree 🤗 my decision making and short game chipping has improved dramatically ✅
I agree with u,, 58 double function,for Sand and Lob wedge.no need 52,54,56,and 60.
@@ragil09 I know you posted this last golf season, but I've been considering this andn have a serious question. So I have a Vokey 52 and 56 and a beautiful, shiny, and in almost perfect condition vintage forged Wilson 58° wedge, and i use it as my lob wedge. I found it at a garage sale when I first started golfing a few years ago, and this club is just is the best wedge I've ever used. I can rely on it for every single shot when I gave to get the ball in the air, even by the green, and it always lands close to the pin. It's the club I use when I want to show off and look like a short game pro. Idk why im so successful w/it. Maybe the club just happened to be the perfect length for me & the head of the club so goddamn heavy I sweep the ball up with a perfect shot every time I've even done it in tall weeded grass full of sticks and sht and the ground behind me was so impressed they cheered when it popped yo nxt to the flag. But for whatever reason club doesn't have the rounded club head a sand or new lob wedge normally would. So do you think it would stilk work for green side bunkers being regular iron shape? I'm successful with it in every other circumstance, and green side bunkers that are taller than my head are hell to get out of with a 56, & it's not as reliable as my 58. I was just wondering it the shape of the club head would inhibit a hit in the sand
go old school with just the 58..bet your score will go down!...ps let me know when more than 10% of the guys with 4 or 5 wedges can break 90.
Lw 60 is my favorite club. Why I hear this thought so much blows my mind
I totally agree with you and have not carried a 60 degree for several years. You can open a sand wedge and flop the ball pretty well. I also don't play a ball that spins enough to take advantage of the 60 degree loft like the pros. I have found the same thing as you where the 60 degree causes more problems than fixes for myself and all of my playing partners. I'm always seeing them come up short or blading it across the green stating they don't practice enough with it. I find more benefit to carrying a 7 wood. I don't hit the ball far enough to play the bomb and gouge type of golf a lot of pros are playing now. Great thoughtful video!
Yep, I think a lot of weekend golfers would easily shave strokes off their game if they left the 60 degree at home.
Hey, I walked in at the start of this video and found this to be very much worth watching. I'm only about half way through and I decided to put this out there first. I am somewhat a rookie at the game but Im pretty good with the 60 degree, only because when I started I didnt know any better. I watched Phil and I perfected that high drop shot. Just recently people have compared me to phil in this regard. I like all that your saying about the clubs in the first half of this video as I have learned a lot of that just recently the hard way. Im sure the rest of this will be very informative. Thank you.
There's a stat in Arccos called "Chip/Pitch Down" which gives you a rough idea how you're doing around the greens. It's for shots under 50 yards. My best results come from 9i (42%), PW (56%), and Approach Wedge (45%). My chip/down numbers are pretty bad with 54º and 58º - 33% and 22.2%. But I think there are two reasons for that: I don't use them very much and when I do need to use them, it means something has gone very badly wrong and I'm facing an extremely difficult and low percentage shot anyway. Soft lob over a bunker to a tight pin on a fast green, etc.
I see many, many weekend golfers who grab that 60º for every single shot inside 50 yards and it baffles me. They'll be just off the green or even on the fringe, chipping to a hole that's 50 feet away and try to flop it there. I don't get it. I guess, to them, it seems easier than trying to gauge the distance with putter or a 9 iron. I'll say this, though. Learning to bump and run the ball will cut strokes off your game. Fast. If you slightly mishit a long chip with a 60º wedge you're going to end up very far from the hole - short or way over the green oftentimes. On the other hand, you can mishit a 9 iron chip by QUITE A BIT and still end up with a makeable putt. I know! I do it all the time! Plus it teaches you to read the slope and speed of greens better, which, in turn, also improves your putting. A twofer!
Yep, I am a huge fan of Arccos. I actually got in touch with them and they gave me the coupon code UNDERPAR to share here for 10% off!
you are smart!...ps guys with 4 or 5 wedges mention 4 or 5 distances they use them for..all they have to do is leave themselves a FAVOURITE(best) yardage to the hole .golf is not rocket science...ps2..95% of golfers are not really good enough for 4/5 wedges, but they think they are.
An old salty but masterful club fitter once told me….
Get the best 56* you can with the toe and heel relieved and master it.
I´ve just bought a pack of 3 wedges Kirkland, 52, 56, 60 at Costco so I could have a 60 in my bag, but so far I´m losing confidence. This video has helped me understand the importance of get well informed before adquiring new clubs. Thanks
I totally agree: I stopped using my 58^ for full shots. Not only it randomly balloons, but also it doesn’t spin as much as my 54^.
But I keep it for green side bunkers and when I’m really short sided and I have to get over an obstacle.
That was extremely helpful. And yep, I'm leaving my shots short since adding the 60° to my bag.
Quality channel! Happy I came across this. Hope to see this channel grow!
Like your take on this. Been doing fine with Pitch n Putter my whole life. Bump n run. The 60 is a tool I just added for the very short stopping shot that I could not do and I am hoping it doesn't complicate things. When you use fewer clubs you get to know them better.
appreciated the bounce discussion in layman’s terms.
So many instructors advise against a 60. There's exceptions. For reference I'm high handicap and golf a 90-100. A lob is my magic club. I'm so much more accurate and consistent with it that if I can place the ball 20-30 yards from the green I'm usually going to club down and try for 50-60 because my full lob swings going to do a better job than a pitch or a long chip. Try one out.
Great video
Awesome way to decide what clubs are helpful for your game
What would be great is to have conversations as a group and talk about different ideas with each other. Getting ideas or different prospective can lead to improvement with anyone...
This video needs to blow up
very well made video and had my full attention.
Been golfing for 20 years. At best, as a weekend warriors, I was a 17 handicap. Just getting back into it after my kids travel softball and baseball weekends are done and now I'll break 100 half the time. I've learned a few things over this time. Long irons (3 & 4) and a lob wedge hurt the majority of us that play to have fun at golf. There is no need for them. Open up a sand wedge=lob wedge. Replace those long irons with hybrids or 7 n 9 woods. HIT EM STRAIGHT!
I'm almost 64 yrs old and have been playing golf pretty much all my life, but except for my teens, it has been sporadic. I was good enough at one time to be consistently in the mid-80s, whereas now, mostly because of inability to play often enough, my goal is break 100. I only carry 2 wedges, a PW and a 60° LW. Because I have more confidence in being able to control the PW, it's my go to almost 100% of the time. I use the LW for greenside bunkers and flop shots, usually pretty well. When I'm chipping, I rely on bump and run, depending in the circumstances with anything from a 5i to a 9i. Think I need to get a 54° wedge!
I have a lob wedge with a low bounce because different bounce is the only major difference between my SW and LW (of course loft also 55 to 60 degrees). I need two bounces so that I can play different surfaces and shots easily
That's a good way to set up your wedges and also how I have mine. 60 degree with low bounce and 54 with medium bounce.
Took both out and use my gap wedge!
My 60 is turned down to 57 with a 12* bounch, my 56 turned to 53 with 8* bounce which complements my A wedge at 48 with 8* bounce. I use all 3 wedges out of bunker depending on lie and distance control, also I use all 3 around the green depending on lie, type of shot I choose play with controland accuracy. My favorite is my 56* calloway Jaws, with 8 degree bounce turned down to 54*....If you practice with your wedges and get to know individual strength and weakness of each one, you'll find many different types of shots for each one, weather it be a high or low shot, opening those wedges up and creating lots of spin, or chock down to create less distance on full or semi full swing....Great video on wedges, now it's time to dile in wedges......18 handicapper.....
I use 50 and 54 for approach and 54 around the green. 60 to get around obstacles and approach when I need to stop the ball. 60 is fun to play when you get used to it but took lessons to master it. 54 is 12 bounce for fluffy sand and 60 is 8 bounce and I use it on packed sand. Most important thing that helped my game was making sure there isn’t a gap between 9 iron to lob and no more than 4-6degree gap between wedges. Also having a low bounce and high bounce in case of packed vs fluff lies.
I am a mid handicapper and I use my 56 from 100 to greenside. I do not take full swings with 9i, PW, AW or 56*. There have been times when I had to open the face excessively to play a flop shot and I blade the ball into narnia. I am 50/50 with my 56 and for this reason I am going to add a 60 to my bag. The rest of my bag is dialed on yardages and spin already so this is minor oversight I need to ammend.
Great analysis. Back in the day due to standard lofting, nobody really needed/used GAP wedges, Lob wedges...Pros did, but not your average player. They had the set, and a sand wedge at 56 degrees. Now? You probably need a GAP wedge with the stronger lofted irons and most guys would do well to skip the lob and stick to 54/56 10 degree bounce sand and just learn to hit it short/long/chip and run/etc.
This comment introduces a 2nd club we maybe don’t NEED.
My general thought as a “high handicapper” is to have a 3 Wood and Lob Wedge in the bag, BUT then try to not have to ever use them. Sure I’ll practice them and experiment during some early bird back nine situations at my local course, BUT SIMPLIFY…
Maybe learn how to use 10 clubs somewhat reliably over 14 clubs inconsistently.
It leads to:
Hit Driver off the tee
Hit 5 or 7 wood off the deck
Hit the 54 when not using the 46 or 50 (Cleveland CBX2)
Hit the 58 (Cleveland Smart Sole 4) out of the sand or when you really think you need a little bump in height when inside 25-30 yards.
My 54 has 12 degrees of bounce. I practice it and deploy it as my primary chip/pitch club. However I get in situations all over the course where I will lean on the 46, 50 over going the other direction by thinking everything needs to be “lobbed.”
Loft is my friend on the long end of the bag (hit that 7W over line driving the 3W and killing gophers), but loft becomes my enemy when getting too cute on the short end.
Obviously with great practice and course understanding anybody can make use of whatever club they like to get the job done. Any hybrid or a reliable short iron may get you where you want to go over both the “SW” and “LW” when it comes to certain short game antics.
Would love to see more of your ball comparisons. Your explanations in the Callaway comparison were great. As a newer golfer, I have no idea what to look for in a ball. (I know very early on that the ball isn't really the thing costing most strokes, but as I progress I'd like to learn more about the different balls and the implications on who might prefer them)
I carry 13 clubs and have both 55* (bent) and a 60* with the lowest bounce. I play on several conditions at different courses. Hard to fluffy sand. Soft to hard pan turf. Full to flop, low check to chip and runs. And pick up my ball to save my back lol
This should be interesting as I just picked up a new (used) club at Play It Again Sports for $12
It is a 60 deg lob wedge, with the most interesting area of he bounce area that is almost the size of a 5 iron
and I saw this as a great Sand Wedge too
I picked it up for that drop it on the green chipping over the trap and stopping it
But I find it is almost impossible to hit it over 25 yrs even with a FULL SWING, I love it when used for the right shot
Any shot I would think I could hit with a Sand Wedge I can hit with my Pitching Wedge
reason it was $12
I’m a high handicapper but I got a 60 with 8 bounce early on and practiced with it a lot. I feel confident with it most of the time but on off days it can really kill my score. I’ve just picked up a 56 and a 52 both with 12 bounce hoping to try using them more than the 60. I do love finessing the 60 around the green, it feels great when it goes well but I think if I’m honest with myself my success rate Isn’t as high as I think it is. I’ll see how I go with the new wedges.
I play a local course with tiny domed greens that are really hard to hold. I often find myself 15-20 yds from the pin with zero chance of playing any kind of normal pitch shot. Needless to say...my flop shot has become an integral part of my game. I score in the low 80's and find my 60* wedge indispensable.
56 all the way. I just started using it and it definitely changed the game
That's awesome. Everyone just needs to find the setup that works for their game.
@@underpargoals9824 Yes it’s all about the sweet spot when it comes to tight game
My strategy is to learn to use both clubs properly. I’ve only just added the 60 to give me a solution to shots I can’t use the 55 on.
put a 1 iron in and learn to use it too.
Great video!
Very good video for beginner
I had a 2i, SW, and LW made to match my set of Ping Zing2’s years ago. Lately, I’m getting back into golf after almost 2 decades off. I looked up the specs on my set and it turns out the LW is actually a 57° club. I don’t know that I’d gain short game control from a 60° wedge, but I’d like to see…although I’d have to drop the 2i & 3i and I hit them great
you need to double check...my zing2 lob is 61...
@@lifesaver3499 I’m going by a chart for the zing 2 irons. I don’t have a jig to check it physically. I’d upload the chart here but I don’t think I can add a photo
This is an awesome video
Sorry, I can't give up the style points that come with a perfectly executed flop shot
Done! Next thing I wanna know now is what distance is acceptable when missing the flag on approach shots from 120m?
I deleted my 60
I carry PW 44
50
56
Works perfectly
My pw is a 45 so I have a 50-54 and 58
Same for me, I have found that a short shot with a short pin or shot over a bunker and lillte green the 58 is good. I really don't want to open the club face on my 54.
I can see both sides of it and why some people shouldn’t carry a lob and why others should. A better player will definitely want options in grind and bounce. For a newer player you’re probably better off carrying a 56 with 10 degrees bounce and a grind that is very versatile. I know this is an old video and I saw someone in the comments saying they got rid of their 52,56,60 and got a 58 to replace all 3. That’s a terrible idea imo. I could see dropping a 56 and 60 in favor of just the 58, but why on earth would you drop your gap wedge too? Now you go from your PW 45-46 degrees and then up to 58?! That’s a huge gap to deal with. You’re either trying to hammer your lob wedge or taking a lot off your pw.
Agree. I use my lob wedge too much with many poor results. Pros use it but I don't practice as much as they. I'm better just using it for tight lies.
55% of the time it works every time sounds good to me
Pros use lob wedges because the stimp on the greens they play are usually 10 or higher ..most courses pros dont play stimp is under 9 and actually when they roll them to 9 every non pro golfer talk about how fast they are. Lob wedges help cut down on the roll out on high stimp greens is only reason why pros use it. If you use a 60 degree on a 8stimp green or lower the ball will not roll at all
My Ping Zing 2 S wedge is 52
Lies below a very elevated green or a lie in a deep bunker where you need to lob the ball are where I might grab my 60 degree.
I've never owned more than 58 deg. Never felt like I needed more.. I use 52 and 58.
Same
58 is much better for me...
The only thing that hurting your score is not practice... just 5% of your score is about the equipment...