Wheelchair and security when flying
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Watch Brad get a very thorough pat down from security at the airport.
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Since becoming handicap myself I often wondered if I would be able to continue to travel if I became wheel chair bound I appreciate this video.
Flying in the US is stressful, nobody here in Europe touchs you or asks you any question. And as handicaped person you even preferential treatment. I dont understand how you can still have that TSA BS,
ibo beko all the Americans are complaining yet this is why 9/11 has only happened once so....
STELLA Washington the bitch holding the camera is pathetic. Let the man do his job in peace. 🤦♂️
The fact that I'm actually surprised that the person filming this is not getting threatened and his phone confiscated really says enough.
Probably because a TSA agent freak-out gets more views than a TSA agent doing their job.
TSA is part of the Department of Homeland Security, a federal institution, the passengers have the right to record at some point because they are exercising their first amendment rights
The last time I flew was a nightmare, when leaving Orlando the TSA screened my chair separately from me for about 20 minutes. I believe they removed a pair of screws from my backrest. When we arrived home they took forever to bring my chair up, when it finally arrived, the gate attendants were very apologetic because my backrest was completely separated from my chair. It took 15 minutes but I fixed it enough to get going and finally caught up with my family.
I think the guy did a great job and been respectful
I'm a first time flyer (in about a week) in a wheelchair so this is a huge help to know exactly what I can look forward to when the time comes.
IlichiRegiusReptiles Good luck! I hope your flight goes well!
I'm a wheelchair user and tbh there a lot of sick people out there pretend to be in a wheelchair to try smuggle drugs in it happens a lot so can see why it takes a while
@Bum Face look them up has happened before
They are T Security A, not Drug Enforcement Agency.
@@fw8465 they actually have the authority to search drugs
@@eoindarkside I sure they do. I am sure they are authorized in potential financial crimes, sex trafficking and copywriter infringement.
But that’s not not their mission. Anything else is a distraction for doing what they should be doing.
Baby powder on wheelchair from the user putting it on ti prevent chafing? Cocaine.
$3000 in a carryon bag? Drug dealer.
Stepdad traveling alone with stepdaughter? Sex trafficking.
These people are not sufficiently trained to do anything other than look at an X-ray machine and grab crotches.
I worked in management for one of the largest security companies in the US. We even assisted TSA because their turnover was so bad.
In the bottom levels of security, one of the biggest challenges was keeping the cowboys, Rambos and Reachers in check.
Some live in a dreamworld.
Oh man, some of the lawsuits…
2016 my friend who was in a wheelchair and I was pushing the chair went to get screened. They let her through without any screening but me they screened and patted down. And I asked why didn't she get screened because those tubes are hollow on a wheelchair and you can hide stuff in them. They just ignored me and kept doing the pat down
As if being wheelchair bound isn't enough.
I also saw a more recent video of the electric wheelchair check. Gotta say Veronica and Brad Morris you guys are good people for making these videos and your interactions with everyone are so polite and kind. I love seeing people use the golden rule!
Thank you, we appreciate it!
I have flown dozens of times in Canada and have never taken that long in sucurity.
At the end, the TSA personnel hands back the shoes but not the belt. :)
This video is so informative as it provides a visual view of how it's being done for handicapped people on wheelchairs ♿️. I'm aspiring to be an AvSo next time and this video does help me a lot on top of the lecture notes that I'm reading 📚 through. Thank you so much 💓.
tooo yaa all gotta understand one thing like they say can easily hidding something they just being precausion. incase something realy happen cant blame them. they just trying to keep it safe for everyone to have a safe fly. you all sitting there complaining. if some shyt realy come down den. IF THIS IF THAT. IF NOTHING. LET DEM DO THERE JOB. IT TAKE TIME BUT IT FOR EVERYONE SAFETY.
Be there
Been there
I don't get these videos. You're thankful? Thankful for what? Thankful he has to get groped every time he goes through an airport? Thankful that's he's being suspected of being guilty until proven innocent by the TSA? Thankful that TSA is allowing you to be subjected to having your freedoms and rights violated?
If you're talking about the audio, I am talking with other passengers and TSA agents about my service dog (off camera).
How dare this security officer do a pat down. Violating the man. Not like there were any type of terrorist that exists.
Airlines require this, private companies, dont like it, dont fly, pretty simple.
You have the freedom and the right to not fly.
Since I've become a wheelchair user, I've not flown. This is why.
stupid reason... IQ below 69
What a stupid fucking thing to say.
Glad you could make the decision for your self.
Waaaaaaaay too long for a checkover, ask for a supervisor! Thoroughness, sure, this, no way!
Supervisor would have done the same thing. This is all procedure.
you think the illegals and refugees get this kind of treatment?
Worse
@@faerefolke lol u must be a whiny liberal? ..u love the interlopers so much why don't u invite them to live with u?
Dude, illegals dont get a pat down, they come illegally :/
Heck no they prolly say go on through
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That’s crazy how long tsa took with this man in a wheelchair
Yes they dont miss a spot wow but guy seems really nice
just because he’s in a wheelchair shouldn’t give him the advantage to not have a pat down. these people are just doing it for the safety of others and are just doing there job.
Helpful video, thanks for sharing.
Dang that some intense searching.
His tight clothing with a wheelchair that has no hidden parts to it, sure could have hidden so many dangerous things. I am so glad to see that TSA decided to be so thorough with him, we can feel so much safer now.
not feeling for anything, its so they test their hands after
Brad had lots of patience then again what choice did he have. Seemed like it took a little too long. The guy seemed nice though so that was good.
It took over 7 minutes! That is a long time! When we were watching the video we just kept waiting and waiting and waiting for it to be over. But you are right, the man was very nice and obviously no one is going to put a thing past him!
I really had hoped this video was part of a training session for TSA - but the lengths that this guy was subjected was deplorable!
@@terrilucas8098 safety first
Wouldn't a Bomb/Explosive Material Sniffing Dog as part of the screening help catch Potential Terrorists better than treating every traveler like one? Then the TSA can be scaled back to deal only with the person(s) if the Dog gets a Positive Hit.
The TSA does use sniffing dogs. Unfortunately, bombs can be made of hundreds of different materials with different smells, and certain materials may not have been trained into the dogs. It is unrealistic to expect a dog to be able to discern every single possible type of explosive smell.
THIS FILM IS A GREAT TRAINING FILM FOR THE TSA SO THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO PROPERLY CHECK A WHEELCHAIR USER AND THEIR WEELCHAIR
Training film goes much more in-depth than this, as each disability often required a different screening procedure.
I'm so afraid to go though TSA in my wheelchair. Im thinking of transferring to a wheelchair owned by the airport just so they don't rub me over and over. I have Cauda Equine Syndrome so I have active nerves endings with extreme sensitivity to touch this will be so painful from the waist down.
I don't think who owns the wheelchair will make any difference to them. Contact TSA cares and talk with them about your condition. Can you walk at all? If so, you might wish to be wheeled up to the body scanner, walk through, and have a chair waiting on the other side. This way they don't have to touch you. We did that once, but it was so draining for Brad to get up and stand even for a few seconds that he was ruined for the rest of the day. But it would be an ideal way to avoid a pat down.
@@VeronicaAndBradMorris I'm with Brad getting up and walking is difficult and I can't stand on my own for more then a few seconds. I will contact TSA cares. Thank you for the video and advice.
Patted down his legs twice ..that's not right
That is procedure as they use swabs from gloves to detect different types of explosives.
Glad you filmed this
How many freaking times are they going to touch the man
Enough to clear him.
I understand being thorough, but this is discrimination .... Able-bodied people are not groped this long, and this detailed.... I could see IF the guard found something, then take to a private room .... TWO total check overs..... Just wrong
Chill Jill And a. feelee of his balls give me a break the queen tsa guy?? or.what ever got a cheep thrill
Chill Jill you need to just chill Jill. Even able bodied passengers are frisked long enough to make sure they are not carrying any contraband. Even the security staff don't enjoy touching 100s of people of the same sex every day but they're just doing their job. So stop being so negative
Chill Jill And this isn't groping.. This is frisking.. I don't think u understand the difference
The majority of wheel chair user don't care about the pat down as long as it's done professionally, it's their job.
Chill Jill I am a sept 11 responder and get molested each and every flight
I use a power wheel chair and they take as much time if not more. I love to fly so I'm use to it.
That guy doing the pat down is doing way too much feeling doing double feels and going over the same places a few times knowing good and damn well he didnt feel nothing tge first time and that is unnessaccy and a invation of disable people privacy!!!!!!
No Sorry but We Have the RIGHT to TRAVEL/FLY because Transportation is a RIGHT! Access is a RIGHT! This Bull-$hit of saying if you don't like it Don't Fly just says you like getting A$$-Raped & Probed because you are willing to let anyone do anything to you that they want and you are willing to Bend Over & $ay YE$!
@wulfgar3000 Driving a form of transportation is a "Privilege". This would mean you wouldn't have a right to walk anywhere what so ever.
@@adamguymon7096 Transportation is literally not a right though. Name anything in any form of law where transportation is a right. You may be thinking about the first amendment protecting the freedom of movement, which is a right - but the method in which you move is not protected anywhere. Feel free to stand still and wave your arms all you want, but flying is not a right protected by anything.
Thats straight up rediculous... :/
agree
He should be able to just roll in and call it a day. Not like a terrosit will ever be in a wheelchair.
He may have titanium in his back! He could pull that out and use it to his disadvantage!
Why didn't the tsa guy just provide an approved chair then dissemble the wheelchair and then drag this man thru the naked picture screening then reassemble the wheelchair then ask his mother how to reassemble said wheelchair? Then tell mom she so embarrassed her son.
How did the tsa agent know he didn’t have a gun under him?
They should check his beard!
Actually you're right
Which airport is it? Where are you at?
Unfortunately it is what it is. It's unfortunately a negative side to be in his position, but being checked correctly and safely ultimately is the best thing. It's not like they saw him in his chair and thought that because they feel like they're gonna torment him by taking their time?
I cant believe they took off his belt how hard is it to put back on
Belts can be used to hide things though.
Applying to Australia in four weeks to have open heart surgery I was thinking of getting a wheelchair assistance at the airport second thought I don’t think I will
If you can walk a few steps, you don't have to go through this screening. You can walk through the body scanner, and the wheelchair will be screened separately.
Muy bueno video saludos desde uruguay 🇺🇾
Gracias. Hola!
Im going to California too!☺
I like his wheelchair, thats a nice one.
Thanks! It is a Quickie LX. We bought it used for $100 and put about $100 into it to get it fixed up.
It's hell being in A chair going through security. Dude it's wrong. No one listened to the Olympic Gymnast either!
i dont get people getting mad.. if the wheelchair is reason to get not searched... the evil people would exploit that. thats how people are..
What if you were the 1 in the wheelchair, being touched all over for the fact criminals pull this shit? I'd be madder than a volcano .
@@maryanneryan9861 still the same.. I can be good or evil. Same as anyone else who ist not in a wheelchair. Does it make me better or worse than other people? I could have Bad intentions wheelchair or not. Could be any reason why I am in the wheelchair. You never know. I understand your point. Such things as getting searched are never pleasent. But I rather get searched than getting hurt im a plane ;) other people fucked it for us. Poor world hm?
It's a two hour flight. What can go wrong, right?
Jeeze. I'd rather get out of my chair onto the floor and let them wand me. I'd just scoot myself through the metal detector but I have a pacemaker so the want can't be avoided but laying on my back for them to wand the front of me then switching to my stomach for them to wand the back of me seems a lot faster
have u some information how many people u were catch wht tht prosecure in whole years?
Just last year they have caught 4 people sitting on firearms, one was loaded.
Ridiculous. Like you could hide anything under a really thin t shirt. And TWICEover his legs? Why?
I would understand if it was a power chair but this is a manual chair. This is kind of ridiculous. I hope the gentleman finally got his diagnosis and is doing well.
We have another video from when Brad got his power chair. It takes just as long! And still no diagnosis. Fighting with medicaid to see doctors in another state right now. Thanks for asking, though!
It can be frustrating to get a diagnosis as an adult. I am 36 years old and still no diagnosis. Just don't let that keep you from getting ahead and living a normal life.
Thanks! We're not.
Cp lube Ok
I Don't care if it is a Power or Manual Chair. Are TSA agents Trained with a Medical Degree & do they know to Properly Fix Wheelchairs? NO They Are NOT!!!!!
They do NOT Understand these fields the only thing they are trained to do is Shove a Camera Up your A$$ & Use their Authority to take your Rights AWAY. #FuckTSA!
Good effort.
SERIOUSLY ! ! ! DOES EVERY PASSENGER UNDERGO THIS KIND OF INTENSITY OF A SEARCH PRIOR FLYING ? OR IS THIS A CASE OF DISCRIMINATION.
Thank you for this video clip. I am a wheelchair user part time and need help walking (I will not be able to walk thru the scanner by myself) if I bring my wheelchair with me and decide to have my dad help me walk thru is that a possibility? Or will I have to be searched like this wonderful man did? I just dont like people touching my scars 😕
Not wanting people to touch your scars is totally understandable. I wish you could just avoid that! You can tell them about your sensitive areas so they're extra careful where you need them to be. If you're embarrassed to say it out loud, you can hand them a piece of paper that describes your needs. You can also call TSA Cares before you fly to have them help you get set up to go through security and with any related concerns. A lot of people like to do that. They've made fillable cards available, too, if you want your needs note to look more official and maybe more familiar to them.
Unfortunately, you can't have anyone (like your dad) touching you when you go through the scanner. You can't use a cane or anything either, it has to be unaided. Plus if you go through the body scanner, you have to stand there with your arms up for several seconds-Brad tried doing this one time and it was a disaster for his condition.
It can help to remind yourself that these people are well trained and professional. They aren't bothered by your disability, they aren't getting excited by touching you, they are just doing their job all day long. We try to be nice and understanding of that, communicate clearly with them, and then every TSA agent we've come across has returned our respect and courtesy.
If you prefer not to be patted down in public, just ask them to do it in an area away from the public-that's your right. Best of luck!
@@VeronicaAndBradMorris Thank you im learning so much as this is my new life. 27 years old had back surgery and became "paralyzed" i have to walk with something all the time, or hold my dads arm. I cant wait for this flight but I am nervous about 2 things... 1 the TSA and 2 the pain I may be in during the flight 😭
@@VeronicaAndBradMorris You can definitely use a cane to go through the metal detector (which is what a disabled person would use). The TSA has many pre-screened canes that passengers can use when walking through the metal detector or while waiting for the officer to screen their chair. They just need to give the cane back after.
Seems to be stupid to how far he is been searched sometimes double each area, and taking his time,
Did they do a pet-down aswell?
Yes, if you fly in a wheelchair your whole screening is one big 5-10 minute long pat down.
I always thought they wiped their hands with alcohol for sanitary reasons, but it seems they’re running the towelette through the machine. Are they checking for some kind of bomb residue on the latex gloves?
They run a towlette over your hands and parts of the wheelchair, then put it in the machine to check for explosive residue.
@@VeronicaAndBradMorris
Just bring in Dogs trained to detect explosives. It would eliminate all that
Groping/Swabbing and make the lines move faster. What do Cops do
when someone is suspected of having Drugs in their car? They bring in
a Drug Dog.
@@SouthernR0cker4Life There are hundreds of different materials with different scents that explosives can be made out of. It is unrealistic to expect a dog to be able to discern the scents of every single explosive. The police dogs that smell for drugs typically only discern between a few different drug smells - and that's why criminals still get away with smuggling ketamine because it's so uncommon of a drug that it would be a waste of time for the drug dogs to sniff out.
Pathetic. Seeing this indignity is maddening as he has to live with indignity every day of his life.
The TSA wasn't freaked that you're taking video?
Nope, they thought it was totally fine.
It's a trade-off, safety and security for freedom. Terrorists suck.
I'll be doing this flying home after surgery.
This made me miss flying
The wheelcair is made of hollow tubes.... This has to stop. Wil your, Donald?
How would the TSA agent know
Did he have TSA Pre-Check?
Nope
Wouldn't have made a difference if he did though.
Because of all the people in wheelchairs who have hijacked airplanes.....
Wow
what doe s a terrorist look like? what does someone who want smuggle on illegal items like drugs look like..?
those who try to do harm will go at no lengths to do so, like man dressing up like Muslim women, people using the kids to transport drugs...
no one likes these search, but they are a necessary.
STOP your complaining and understand, these procedure are in place for YOUR safety.
STOP playing the disability card.
Calling that guy a "poodle" is disrespectful.
I am talking about my service dog, who was a standard poodle. He is off camera, but standing next to me as I am filming. We got the usual service dog chit chat as we filmed.
This is over excessive, tsa guy must think there is a thermo nuclear bomb in the wheelnchair .
Why are you letting people pet and talk to your service dog? True service dogs are working and have to have their full attention on their handler at all times. I heard you say "he's friendly you can pet him", what's that about?
+Kristina Yori People with service dogs can decide how they want their dogs to interact with the public. Personally I let people pet my service dog if they ask, or they seem to be respectfully admiring him from a distance. He enjoys the interaction, and I only do it when I am doing OK. If I am having issues, I don't let people pet. But it is really an individual preference. With my current SDIT Hestia, I am working on her interactions with other people, so I even ask people who look like they have good dog sense to give her a treat (I provide the treat) and interact with her. Part of every service dog test I've seen involves the dog being pet by a stranger.
So you're saying you're preparing her to pass the CGC, CGCA, CGCU, and the Public Access Test?
+Kristina Yori Yup! She passed her CGC this weekend!
If this Service Animal is the person in the Wheelchairs Service Animal the Service Animal Should NOT be SEPARATED at ALL!
@@adamguymon7096 The service dog belongs to Veronica (the person filming), it is her psychiatric service dog.
Yes it is degrading, embarrassing, freaky and uncomfortable, but it must be done for everyone's safety.
Tbh, if he felt uneasy about it, he could have requested for a private room. There's nothing degrading. This measure is a protection for the safety of all air travellers
I think if you shave your beard you will not have any problem with TSA.
These jerks have never caught anyone, never will. Six dollars an hour and all the touchy feely up you want. What kind of a jerk can do this crap?
They get paid upwards of $20 an hour plus government benefits, and they actually have caught many people with firearms (loaded to). Just last year they caught over 3,000 loaded firearms, not to mention all the test the DHS does on them with fake bombs and all that. I am glad they protect me.
Security was not wearing a mask is it legal
Before COVID times bro....
Why the extra special attention?
Security people often aren't sure exactly what to do with wheelchair users, so they sometimes are extra cautious. Brad finds it easiest just to expect delays and ignorance, and to get there early and try to be kind. Mostly, like everyone, they're just doing their best to do their job. If they're confused, though, it can help to let them know what works for you (as long as it makes them feel they've been thorough enough!).
@@VeronicaAndBradMorris thank you. I have never flown before and now I am a full time walker user, that would be interesting if I do fly
They forgot to check him for hemroids.
I break down in tears everytime I watch one of these, as a fellow WC user and sexual assault survivor. I can't imagine being accosted that way and being so helpless to do anything about it. That, fear of loss/damage to my chair and all of my medical equipment/rx that I'd have to carry on is why I just refuse to fly since I've become worse. I hate it but don't see any other way around it. Not to mention, he cross contaminated your s/o hands by shaking them at the end after he already used those same gloves to wipe the soles of his shoes--smh--no concern for someone who may be immune compromised....
Yes, Brad doesn't fly anymore because of the treatment his wheelchair gets under the plane (it is always damaged) and because he cannot sit upright in the seats anymore. I am sorry you cannot fly, too.
They could just refuse to shake his hand, and immune-compromised people shouldn't be flying just due to the sheer amount of people they share the space with. I respect your decision to just not fly though, as that is a choice you can definitely make.
Why were his legs patted down twice??? Disgusting....
You Travel!!!!!!
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Tax dollars hard at work… ugh
Geez super over kill
My asmr 😍😍😍
This is insanity. Why do we allow this?
Because last year alone, 14 passengers tried to sneak a firearm on the plane by sitting on the weapon.
Pure nonsense, idiocy
Why is he in a wheelchair!? He looks relatively healthy!? Like wheelchair user's don't look healthy. The ignorance!!
Some people look physically well but arent. Not all wheelchair users look unhealthy
Wtf that is really offensive
Why is he is a wheelchair? He looks relativity healthy.
LOL, looks can be deceiving! We don't know yet what is wrong with Brad, but his legs don't work properly, he can't walk more than a few steps (while using crutches) at a time due to fatigue. We hopefully are getting a muscle biopsy soon and maybe that will give us some clue to what is going wrong.
Chase M I was replying to another comment and saw this one again. Figured I would give an update if anyone reads these comments. Brad's doctors say that he has Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, otherwise know as Myalgic Encephalitis. But they are not sure. Hopefully he will be getting MedicAid soon in South Carolina (we just moved), and then we can resume going back to more doctors and hopefully really pinning down a diagnosis.
+Veronica Morris when your god Jesus he himself is kinda disabled then those who worship him Christians will become like their master Jesus. quit worshiping the false God because God is never born out of woman's vagina so Jesus is not a God.
What does your comment have to do with the video or the guy in the wheelchair? Jesus was perfect, not disabled.
+Veronica Morris
I went through a very similar process.... for many years..... untill I got an MRI of my brain & a Lumber puncture.... which confirmed that it was in fact Multiple Sclerosis which I had been suffering from from the age of 14. They tried to give me the label of ME back then too.... I knew it was more!
Hope you have it all sorted out now.
Peace
so embarrassing