Mindscape 133 | Ziya Tong on Realities We Don't See

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  • @robertglass5678
    @robertglass5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is perfect. I'll be using this one in my Environmental Science class.

  • @czypauly07
    @czypauly07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This channel is going to explode. Please keep going Sean, it's one of the best on youtube.

    • @username-iz6el
      @username-iz6el 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not without giving us video no one on TH-cam is here to listen to audio podcasts. He needs to knock the pateron or whatever that shit is and realise people like me pay pay TH-cam I'm not going to pay for Spotify or pateron to see a video it can explode did rogan hide his videos behind a pay wall?

  • @meanderthal49
    @meanderthal49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My highest compliment.... I just bought the book... nice job Sean

  • @EricSpaete
    @EricSpaete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ziya is great. Systems thinking like this is really important I think. With our capacity to design we could do so much more in this space that really affects change.

  • @لقطاتمنالأنميالقديم
    @لقطاتمنالأنميالقديم 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sean Carroll
    I have three questions about the theory of the unification of forces of the physicist Dragan
    The first question is about the theory of the nine-dimensional space membranes and Dragan theory
    Will this theory help the development of M- theory to describe the high energy from the time of the Big Bang?
    The second question: How will Dragan theory explain that spark that ignited the Big Bang 14 billion years ago?
    The third question
    What are the predictions of Dragan theory for testing the theory?
    Please answer these three questions and also please post the answers
    On Wikipedia
    ‏Send the three questions to the physicists
    ‏This is the link to Dragan's theory
    ‏iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/ab76f7

  • @Cyrix642
    @Cyrix642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great conversation. Definitely going to read her book.

  • @user-sb3wh3dd4v
    @user-sb3wh3dd4v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FANTASTIC interview! GREAT GUEST! I just bought the book half-way through this episode!
    Love this important work. Love her candid yet cheerful approach to frankly disturbing facts.
    GREAT choice Sean!

    • @mamnoonji
      @mamnoonji 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      great learning process...re ealed horrors most of us would never see /realise otherwise.....thanks for candid talk with very thoughtful humanitarian...

  • @jennydeepable
    @jennydeepable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic chat, new big fan of Ziya

  • @ssshurley
    @ssshurley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing as usual

  • @andrear.berndt9504
    @andrear.berndt9504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank You for the new episode! Great Talk!

  • @savaloy666999
    @savaloy666999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks, Sean! Thanks, also, for the wonderful AIP Interview, it was fascinating to hear you talk about your early life, and the varied paths you have walked.
    Having said that, I think I would enjoy listening to you read the Phonebook! You are an exquisite orator, and put all other so-called "Science Communicators" to shame! (Mentioning no names...!).
    You are the true successor to the great Sagan, Sir.
    With love, from The UK.

  • @lukefidalgo8154
    @lukefidalgo8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for these! Very interesting!

  • @quinntalley1681
    @quinntalley1681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed it. Thanks.

  • @tommygrandefors9691
    @tommygrandefors9691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Kudos for good sound quality. Thanks. 👍

  • @Techadopter
    @Techadopter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds a great book and right up my street, I’ll add it to the list

  • @Tom-sx4tw
    @Tom-sx4tw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to bring up veganism in this conversation, but I fear badly about the negative reactions that come with the notion that we don't need to harm animals for food to live and be healthy.
    Considering the interests of other species is just another step of moral progress. Why shouldn't we investigate this idea further?

  • @milsantosvideos
    @milsantosvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great guest!

  • @frederickphilipp6391
    @frederickphilipp6391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    DON'T switch to Zoom. Takes more data

  • @DarkseedAlpha
    @DarkseedAlpha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! Very insightful

  • @neptunethemystic
    @neptunethemystic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ✨A m a z i n g✨
    Just gonna go wash some spiders out of my eye lashes 🕷 👀

  • @dougcope5437
    @dougcope5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m just trying to figure out which reality my wife sees in her head!

    • @austinharper1
      @austinharper1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vruh

    • @robertglass5678
      @robertglass5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An important part of the scientific process is asking the questions that have a reasonable chance of being answered.

  • @ChancellorMarko
    @ChancellorMarko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that these conversations are happening nowhere else in the universe right now.

  • @mjkluck
    @mjkluck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very, very good.

  • @garyraab9132
    @garyraab9132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having an agricultural background, and having been in chicken hatcheries and hog barns and feedlots, reading Animal Factory and rereading Animal Farm and 1984 and Brave New World, it is perfectly obvious that humans are in nahnahland regarding uncontrolled procreation. Boy Girl Toys for indiscriminate use! Oblivious to exponential world population growth. Talk about cultural blindness!
    As a long time supporter of Wildlife Federations and Greenpeace, i’m starting to question their effectiveness. Eco-green-board members, like politicians, like a plethora of charitable organizations, dare not say that the reproductive habits of human primates is bordering on being deranged. The emotional backlash would undoubtedly result in decreased donations to the cause. The cause being employment or saving the biosphere?
    How many top of the food chain predators are there? Grizzly bears, polar bears, lions, tigers?
    Compared to 7.8 billion humans and an estimated 1.6 billion domestic dogs and cats!
    Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst
    by Robert Sapolsky

  • @szilviabeylik4783
    @szilviabeylik4783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah. Love him. But I should really try listening not right before bed time. I’m very interested but his voice is so lulling, I always end up starting to fall asleep, then he says “let’s go!” and the intro music jolts me, but then I’ll fall asleep again anyways. Take 3….

  • @kibrika
    @kibrika 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She mentioned babies being born quite bacteria free, and that goes against what I learned in the book "10% human" (though not directly, but by the impression it gives); and Sally Le Page did a video on the vat grown meat in Singapore that indicated that the making of that chicken, at least at the start, was not as cruelty free... And now I'm wondering how much nuance I'm missing from things I hear all the time, just because I'm not omniscient and can't know all the truths... Also I'm lazy and am probably no good for future generations of humans. I don't want to give up listening to YT podcasts at night just so nature gets a break or smth.

  • @rotarolla1
    @rotarolla1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, can there be a Buddhist monk interview on their concept of reality?

  • @lovefeelsbest
    @lovefeelsbest ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this but too many advertisements now. Wish I could replace you but nobody matches this content.

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:17:00 if you're not doing something wrong then you're doing something wrong....

  • @dru4670
    @dru4670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Add a video component

  • @chasereeves7421
    @chasereeves7421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My goodness, that is a beautiful human! It would be hard to pay attention to her teachings in that class.

  • @tomatocan2502
    @tomatocan2502 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    aww, I miss the good ol days watching Discovery Channel

  • @platonicdescartes
    @platonicdescartes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love if they could fix the factory meat market to be more ethical and sustainable, and to promote biodiversity. However, if your solution is veganism, then no, I no longer support you. I am perfectly comfortable being an omnivore. I've killed many animals in my life for food, both as a hunter and as a rancher. And I'm quite in tune with the lifecycle and my place in it.

    • @Tom-sx4tw
      @Tom-sx4tw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean by your place in it?

  • @martinsoos
    @martinsoos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a proud supporter of the 1/4 mile vegan marathon. Even still, I'm having the hamburger, I raise cows, goats and sheep, sold $5,000 worth at auction last year for food and they were all grass fed, fat, and happy.

  • @jedidiahhenry6020
    @jedidiahhenry6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Her voice reminds me of Janna Levin, anybody else hearing it?

  • @sbhhdp
    @sbhhdp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is she someone to David Tong?

  • @TheOriginalRaster
    @TheOriginalRaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of Sean Carroll's videos that I've watched have been great so far, I've watched his videos since the formation of this channel, but in this one I was shocked by comments from Ziya Tong, near the end when she started spewing the most outrageous propaganda concerning China. I had to just shut off the video because her spew was just so outrageous (in my opinion).
    I am back now to comment because I found a TH-cam video from a trusted source that does a good job of expressing my concerns (videos from two now famous TH-cam bloggers who have been living in China for 15 years, exploring the country and putting out videos about actual life in China).
    In order to understand please consider viewing the videos of these channels: TH-cam channel "ADVChina" (covering their adventures in China), TH-cam channel "laowhy86" (from Matt, one of the pair of contributors to ADVChina, and TH-cam channel "serpentza" (from Winston, the other contributor of the pair).
    In order to understand this point I'm trying to make, for example, watch the latest episode from "laowhy86" titled: "The Death of Reality in China."
    If you go back and look at earlier episodes (the three channels I mentioned above) you will be able to see the full history of these two adventure travelers who used to ride small motorcycles all over China, showing the countryside and reporting on their life there. Both of these TH-cam authors lived there for over 10 years, working there and learning the language, they both can speak Mandarin fluently and they can read Chinese characters (they are fluent in reading the written language).
    If you watch the series of episodes you would get a comprehensive view of life in China and you would learn the inside view and learn all of the key issues of China and life in China.
    As intellectuals I think we should be motivated to learn more about the true state of things in China, not just relying on clichés repeated here in an otherwise worthwhile episode.
    I would challenge Ziya Tong to learn more about these current issues rather than just spew bits of CCP propaganda that has made it to her over the years.
    Also, please write back to me on any of these topics and we can discuss further. If you want, we can debate the topics, diving further in depth into some of the important issues.
    Cheers!

    • @TheOriginalRaster
      @TheOriginalRaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don't mind I would like to cite the TH-cam video that I mention. I'm not sure if giving a link to a video is allowed here in comments... here goes... I'll give it a try: "th-cam.com/video/Oo3ovqClut8/w-d-xo.html"

  • @desgreene2243
    @desgreene2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Afraid this podcast a bit too much on the popular book promotion side…

  • @thewiseturtle
    @thewiseturtle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a scientist, it makes me very uncomfortable that she talks about "proof" in science, as that's quite the opposite of what science is all about. Healthy science is fully aware that every model we make and every story we tell about reality is highly incomplete and beautifully fictional. We scientists generate novel maps for the world to use to explore reality, while knowing that the maps are not the territory. Our theories are simply options, not truths, and most definitely not "facts". The cool thing is, as her book aims to understand, that the more fictional stories we tell about our own deep exploration of some particular part of reality, especially those things that are normally invisible, and the more we share all of those stories, the more humanity as a whole can experience reality in an objective, multidimensional, philosophical way. Never fully complete or accurate, but always adding more information to our grand story of what it's like to exist.

  • @SamuelOrjiM
    @SamuelOrjiM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ziya Tong. You are looking for the causal continuity between the human umwelt and paracosm. I might be of help.

  • @DangerDave-e7u
    @DangerDave-e7u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reality bites.

  • @punkyroxx
    @punkyroxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know a stripper named bubbles

  • @josephturner6440
    @josephturner6440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you 😗

  • @writerblocks9553
    @writerblocks9553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing, I’m a Christian and this sounds exactly like finding Gods will for us

  • @kagannasuhbeyoglu
    @kagannasuhbeyoglu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the truth?
    I don't think anyone knows...

    • @tjthreadgood818
      @tjthreadgood818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sure you are right. I think we must continue to seek the truth. We are not smart enough to know all the truth, but I think we can know some truth and if we are humble then what we do know won’t get us into trouble.

    • @kagannasuhbeyoglu
      @kagannasuhbeyoglu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tjthreadgood818 What you say is worth thinking about 👏
      Thank you👍

  • @ycart_tech6726
    @ycart_tech6726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wake me up, when you catch up...

  • @madhavestark3173
    @madhavestark3173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so hard to listen to non scientists.

  • @epwlod777
    @epwlod777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Critical theory? ....Everything is a social construct? ... private property....I create something, I put my labor into building it, it is my property, not the groups whom didn't contribute labor towards it.
    But yes, made up laws...
    Liberalism is it's true enlightenment sense is about individual rights and responsibilities, it's a contract between the individual and society about the individuals natural right..
    But yes, post modernist critical theory is the 'cultural revolution'.... How'd that work out for the Chinese in the 40s and 50s ziya?
    But let's ignore the reality of history because it contradicts your agenda

    • @robertglass5678
      @robertglass5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're right, in fact I looked in my microscope the other day and saw a property deed in its natural habitat. It was beautiful.

    • @epwlod777
      @epwlod777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertglass5678 truly a brilliant conflation on concepts.
      Or rather en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
      I guess not much more could be expected.

    • @robertglass5678
      @robertglass5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@epwlod777 So, no sense of humor either? Sounds about right.
      I guess I am in need of enlightenment. Is property an idea we made up? Or isn't it?

    • @epwlod777
      @epwlod777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertglass5678 property includes possession over one's own person and bod which all else's stems from that inherent concept.
      My body is my property, my body produces labor, henceforth what my labor produces is my property to do with as I choose, whether thats to sell\trade or not,
      simply put-my body, MY CHOICE, my labor, my property.
      OR does one not possess their own person? Mind?
      I'd not, whom does?

    • @robertglass5678
      @robertglass5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@epwlod777 Yeah, I asked if we made it up, not if it was a useful idea.
      Here, I'll model a dialogue by answering your questions:
      1) I don't think you possess your body and mind, after all, what exactly is the thing doing that possessing. I would rather say that you are your body and mind.
      2) Considering that we have made up possession laws, ownership of you is contingent upon a society that is willing to back up said ownership with force if necessary. We, as a society, have come to more or less a consensus that people get own themselves and try to show up to protect people who have their sovereignty of themselves threatened; and good on that decision. Decision, as in we decided, being the important part.
      OK. Did we make up laws? Or are they metaphysical realities that we just discovered?

  • @HigashiBashi
    @HigashiBashi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @gregoryrollins59
    @gregoryrollins59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You talk about the chruch and traditionally science deniers? Galileo. Even Newton saw the church as his enemy. One reason he became a whigger. Was it the science or their beliefs? Just for a change up on the whole story, how about talk about what the church believes? Is the Nicene creed in the bible? Did Jesus die on a cross? Challenge that? Newton did not believe in the Nicene creed, why? I look at science not to prove God exist. That's a striving after the wind. I believe in the processes of creation. Science is trying to figure those processes out. We can learn them in fact we are supposed to know them. Genesis 1:26 says and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying of the heavens and domestic animals and all the earth and every creepy animal that is moving on the earth. Before you read the rest of the bible, chapter one tells you to be a scientist of some sort. Bio, zoo, ocean...ology. from the dirt to the ozone. God created us in his image? God's a scientist. That's a whole lotta science at 1:26. Instead we shit on it with greed and war for that greed. Its because the church teaches most to think like a reptile. Animals litter, it takes loyal love to take care of something. To make it beautiful in its time. Ecclesiastes 3:9-12.
    Peace and agap'e.

  • @robertredbeard1855
    @robertredbeard1855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lost my view the moment you mentioned politics and social activism.

  • @ycart_tech6726
    @ycart_tech6726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ehhh...
    This isn't really going anywhere, is it?

  • @لقطاتمنالأنميالقديم
    @لقطاتمنالأنميالقديم 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sean Carroll
    I have three questions about the theory of the unification of forces of the physicist Dragan
    The first question is about the theory of the nine-dimensional space membranes and Dragan theory
    Will this theory help the development of M- theory to describe the high energy from the time of the Big Bang?
    The second question: How will Dragan theory explain that spark that ignited the Big Bang 14 billion years ago?
    The third question
    What are the predictions of Dragan theory for testing the theory?
    Please answer these three questions and also please post the answers
    On Wikipedia
    ‏Send the three questions to the physicists
    ‏This is the link to Dragan's theory
    ‏iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/ab76f7