it was not unreasonable for jailor to think that maf threw and I was evil, but he could have found out by lynching one of us during the day instead of killing 3 townies in 1 night (me exed, vigi shot, vigi death) and losing his exes. The right call was to lynch either one of us the next day and see if maf was telling the truth. But then he DC'd which was pretty awful of him.
"It happens" Yeah to brand new players who have no idea what lying is in a game full of lying. Very deserving of a rage. That jailor and vigi threw REALLY hard
@@kentstopme yeah but as jailer and vigi, two of the most important town roles you have to understand people will try to manipulate you to kill an inno. It is massively important that as vigi and jailor you always make a move that gets town a more guaranteed win. There is no world jailor and vigi exe that night. They don't have to. Make sure you know who are maf then exe. When you are WAY ahead, play it safe
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It's a snapshot of the state of the game. People throw so often and blatantly that it is believable. There are people who join games and just spam 'I'M throwing and the mods do nothing' and you see them day after day.
Yeah I think town of salem mods are pretty much nonexistent, or at the very least, they refuse to do anything meaningful. I see people like Cake or Kyle in roughly a third of my lobbies. Both of them are notorious throwers in case you haven't had the displeasure of meeting them. And no matter how many times they get reported, they just keep doing the same thing, and on the off chance one account gets banned they just pay $5 and have a new one. I wish the devs had a way to ip ban them or something.
That did deserve a rage. The mafia person stayed after being lynched. I've never seen a maf actually throw like that and then stay in the game. It's also so frustrating how people are so fine with games being thrown. I've even had people saying not to report people for leaving because they "might have a legitimate reason" for leaving right after being converted into vampire and costing vamps the win.
This is made up numbers but I'd wager around... 49 of 50 people who leave games when they're 'it' (Mafia, Evil, Vamp, you name it) are simply privileged bitchasses who are sobbing ragequitters. I stuck out 6 evil / neutral evil games in a row today and it sometimes just makes me wonder why I bother. The system clearly doesn't punish spoilsports who leave as evils, I'm playing my line-up of evil games hoping for one Town game and when I finally get it they have a bitchass on their team who disconnects Day 1 and ruins the quality of *my* Town game, it's unfair as fuck. There's no worse feelings than playing by the rules and having privileged, shitty cheaters skipping their turns being evil without consequence.
Playing this game really just takes a toll on my braincells sometimes. Every single game town goes along with obvious exes and they NEVER listen to TIs and just do their own thing "VFRing" like I had a game where I was talking so much and trying to expose an evil I found and town was literally just ignoring me deciding to go with the exe and so on. Then they literally had the audacity to blame me for losing for "not sharing my will" when I was literally basically spamming it.
I love when people make a stupid play/ get tricked by maf and then pretend they’re just joking around and don’t care. You know for a fact they’re butt hurt they got played
This is why I feel people should not be able to leave ranked games if they're dead. It lets people intentionally throw a game, which is 100% what 11 did, and then just leave to queue up for the next one. If you leave a ranked game in progress, your account should be stuck in that game regardless and you cannot queue up for the next game until its done. All these "bored" people who throw games would be weeded out very quickly.
Weaponizing how bad the report system is and how nobody gets punished for gamethrowing is such a shitty way of playing Mafia, honestly. It's hard to call it cheating since Mafia needs deception to win, but it's a really cheap way to play the game. People would be less likely to believe these sorts of bogus "fuck this game im going to troll" plays if they knew that the system picks up on this behavior and permanently removes actual spoilsports.
Yeah I ran into a game like this, thankfully I was jailer and basically just grabbed him by the balls and forced them to not listen. But yeah it sucks I even actually did believe them since throwing like that is so unbelievably common I was just being cautious since it was smart and like he said there's no need if they're already outed take it slow.
Even I a complete numb nut at this game make sure to check before going after the "outed" mafs, since what's one more day anyway if all maf are outed just to be safe
I recently retrurned to ToS and noticed they removed sk and ww from ranked, this makes evil games x5 harder in my opinion, in 10 games I played the mafia won once, game is kinda broken
Sadly that's the Problem with a lot of the Players. (Or Humans in General) - they fuck up but somehow it's now everyone else. It's one of the Reasons i only can watch this game now in videos and can't play it anymore. - i got too much of that behavior at work xD
I've come back to this channel after a year and honestly I wanna try TOS again, but I'm scared to because how the community has changed. I tried a game a couple months ago and it was honestly annoying to play with how the community is now a days.
When I lose as evil I jokingly out people all the time like that. The disguiser didn’t play bad but by no means was that a crazy smart tactic. In fact, actually putting one maf and two town would be much better, but you’d have to play it in a way so evils gain majority afterwards. Either some townies die by trusting you or maf stays alive because they didn’t trust you
Ah yes, not only will I listen to a mafia's last words (it's not even a good play on 8's part it should just be common sense not to listen to outed evils like that) and execute the person Disguiser told me to, but they are also the only TP claim (idk what the people they jailed N1 and N2 said but no TP claims were public) in the game. I got bored.
who shoots just because they're bored??? and in _ranked_ of all places??? absolute mess of a town, i don't blame you for getting tilted, goodness gracious
Really wish the mods for TOS actually gave a damn anymore. Players like the Vigilante and Jailor 100% should be banned. Telling town to kill two random people because a mafia member told you to, and then your only reasoning for that being "I was bored"? That's either you acting like an idiot because you're embarrassed, or straight up admitting to throwing. Jailor 100% should be banned since he just straight up exe'd a TP claim, refused to listen, and then left the game in embarrassment. This is why I mostly play AA or Coven, since there aren't as many people who just blatantly throw.
Wow. I think your best bet in that scenario would've been to point out that 11 was shooting 3 that night, so there was no need to make the exe play. "If 3 turns out to be Mafia tomorrow, lynch me. Simple." Come to think of it, 3 probably should've roleblocked 11 to stay alive. They would've been revealed as town when you came up as Bodyguard the next day.
These are people who only care about their rank to feed their egos. They don't actually like the game. They just want to have a good rank in whatever game where their meager IQ can actually let them have it. That's really all it is. They don't play for the game, they play so they can show off their meaningless rank.
people seem to forget what it actually takes to get banned. as far as i know none of the players here broke any of the rules. first off there are only 2 ways to get banned for dcing, the first one is that if you *announce* that your going to leave. second if you get reported too many times for dcing. you can't really sus out if the dcing was intentional or not because you start to have a false positive rate. yes both the jailor and the vigi where fucken idoits. but being bad at the game can't get you banned. killing a tp claim when there they were the only one? not a bannable offense as that takes into account game knowledge.
I would argue that 11 straight up threw. Shot a townie, and when confronted their defense was "I' was bored, report me see if I care". That is basically them saying outright that they threw the game.
Yeah 11 I'm unsure of if that would be bannable, but jailor leaving I think could be. I tend to report people who dc in case they dc often. I agree people shouldn't be banned for occasionally disconnecting which can happen to anyone, but I report them in case they do it all the time.
You seem pretty slow.. upping 2 instead of 8 or 9 and then barely defended yourself in jail. Yes we get it, jailor did a bad play but I've never seen something more easily defendable. You didn't even paste will.. and then you exclaim "I WOULD'VE PROTECTED 9" LOL.
Yeah probably could have played better in jail but how fast he hit the exe made me think there was nothing that could be done. I tried to explain to him that exing me wasn't necessary either way.
I’ve watched so many of skims vids and I’ve never seen him this mad or heard him swear, I guess it just takes that incompetent of a town
I was thinking the same 😭
I've heard him swear. Not quite like that, but I have (unless I'm mistaken)
I was salty lol
Did the jailor just actually think the maf sold out their team mates, when that would be throwing and now he threw by killing you?
If the maf actually throws, they always leave immediately after. That maf stayed, so it should have been pretty obvious it was a fake throw.
tbf i've seen Maf throw a lot of times.
Apparently he is the guy who does this shit, so he believed them.
it was not unreasonable for jailor to think that maf threw and I was evil, but he could have found out by lynching one of us during the day instead of killing 3 townies in 1 night (me exed, vigi shot, vigi death) and losing his exes. The right call was to lynch either one of us the next day and see if maf was telling the truth.
But then he DC'd which was pretty awful of him.
"It happens"
Yeah to brand new players who have no idea what lying is in a game full of lying. Very deserving of a rage. That jailor and vigi threw REALLY hard
Well tbf 4 (escort) said that not jailor lol
@@kentstopme yeah but as jailer and vigi, two of the most important town roles you have to understand people will try to manipulate you to kill an inno. It is massively important that as vigi and jailor you always make a move that gets town a more guaranteed win. There is no world jailor and vigi exe that night. They don't have to. Make sure you know who are maf then exe. When you are WAY ahead, play it safe
Jailor didn't dc'd, he just died of guilt, like the vigi.
I did enjoy this video, seeing you rage felt good in the sense that I understood why you were feeling that way and so it just resonated within me.
Lol yeah I try to stay calm mostly in videos but this was rough!
That hard F dropped had me like "Oh he mad mad." Never heard skimm say that. I fw it lol savage skimm goes hard
Lolol Yup I don't normally curse!
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It's a snapshot of the state of the game. People throw so often and blatantly that it is believable. There are people who join games and just spam 'I'M throwing and the mods do nothing' and you see them day after day.
Yeah I think town of salem mods are pretty much nonexistent, or at the very least, they refuse to do anything meaningful. I see people like Cake or Kyle in roughly a third of my lobbies. Both of them are notorious throwers in case you haven't had the displeasure of meeting them. And no matter how many times they get reported, they just keep doing the same thing, and on the off chance one account gets banned they just pay $5 and have a new one. I wish the devs had a way to ip ban them or something.
It's also how d1 maf leavers happen so often, a forged mafia leaver is so easily believable.
That did deserve a rage. The mafia person stayed after being lynched. I've never seen a maf actually throw like that and then stay in the game.
It's also so frustrating how people are so fine with games being thrown. I've even had people saying not to report people for leaving because they "might have a legitimate reason" for leaving right after being converted into vampire and costing vamps the win.
This is made up numbers but I'd wager around... 49 of 50 people who leave games when they're 'it' (Mafia, Evil, Vamp, you name it) are simply privileged bitchasses who are sobbing ragequitters. I stuck out 6 evil / neutral evil games in a row today and it sometimes just makes me wonder why I bother.
The system clearly doesn't punish spoilsports who leave as evils, I'm playing my line-up of evil games hoping for one Town game and when I finally get it they have a bitchass on their team who disconnects Day 1 and ruins the quality of *my* Town game, it's unfair as fuck. There's no worse feelings than playing by the rules and having privileged, shitty cheaters skipping their turns being evil without consequence.
As Skimm has said before (I think)... if you don't think you can finish a game, don't queue at all
I love that you're back into this game and making videos, keep it up!
the sad counter argument of: I was bored anyways, its the weakest "i dont want to assume the consequences of my actions" ive ever read
Fake-throwing is the most dishonorable play a TOS player can make. Your rage was well deserved.
i hate to see people play so stupid, trusting evils, then claiming that "it happens".
Some people should stay out of ranked
Man, I raged with you. Hardest throw I’ve ever seen, holy town
Playing this game really just takes a toll on my braincells sometimes. Every single game town goes along with obvious exes and they NEVER listen to TIs and just do their own thing "VFRing" like I had a game where I was talking so much and trying to expose an evil I found and town was literally just ignoring me deciding to go with the exe and so on. Then they literally had the audacity to blame me for losing for "not sharing my will" when I was literally basically spamming it.
Skimm getting salty makes me so happy that I can find solidarity with other people who get angry playing TOS
I love when people make a stupid play/ get tricked by maf and then pretend they’re just joking around and don’t care. You know for a fact they’re butt hurt they got played
This is why I feel people should not be able to leave ranked games if they're dead. It lets people intentionally throw a game, which is 100% what 11 did, and then just leave to queue up for the next one. If you leave a ranked game in progress, your account should be stuck in that game regardless and you cannot queue up for the next game until its done. All these "bored" people who throw games would be weeded out very quickly.
Yeah I agree!
Weaponizing how bad the report system is and how nobody gets punished for gamethrowing is such a shitty way of playing Mafia, honestly.
It's hard to call it cheating since Mafia needs deception to win, but it's a really cheap way to play the game.
People would be less likely to believe these sorts of bogus "fuck this game im going to troll" plays if they knew that the system picks up on this behavior and permanently removes actual spoilsports.
Yeah I ran into a game like this, thankfully I was jailer and basically just grabbed him by the balls and forced them to not listen. But yeah it sucks I even actually did believe them since throwing like that is so unbelievably common I was just being cautious since it was smart and like he said there's no need if they're already outed take it slow.
It is a bit meta, but it's not hard to figure it out honestly, a slight amount of patience will tell you if they threw or not.
I’m gonna take a guess and say that town fell for that
Wow, that game was absolutely ridiculous. Imagine trusting maf last words.
Escort doesn't rb the vig who announces they are shooting them, lol.
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11 and 5 caused a bruh moment that game
Even I a complete numb nut at this game make sure to check before going after the "outed" mafs, since what's one more day anyway if all maf are outed just to be safe
Are you sure that was ranked?
I recently retrurned to ToS and noticed they removed sk and ww from ranked, this makes evil games x5 harder in my opinion, in 10 games I played the mafia won once, game is kinda broken
Stupidity should never be underestimated.
That Jailor threw big time, executing you.
Sadly that's the Problem with a lot of the Players. (Or Humans in General) - they fuck up but somehow it's now everyone else. It's one of the Reasons i only can watch this game now in videos and can't play it anymore. - i got too much of that behavior at work xD
Man I thought that, Just was lying because of how wordy that will was
Lol
I haven't even watched yet, but town most assuredly will fall for it
lol!
Rare to hear Skimm say Fuck, pretty cool though. Dumbest town ever lol
Forgot to add that 13 being fake sheriff was obvious when he had no actual info by D3 and then eventually stopped posting his finds
this is ranked, so why he "threw"??
I've come back to this channel after a year and honestly I wanna try TOS again, but I'm scared to because how the community has changed. I tried a game a couple months ago and it was honestly annoying to play with how the community is now a days.
Right, that's why I playing CAA when I play this game.
arent scrolls disabled on ranked?
Wait why did they get rid of NK
When I lose as evil I jokingly out people all the time like that. The disguiser didn’t play bad but by no means was that a crazy smart tactic. In fact, actually putting one maf and two town would be much better, but you’d have to play it in a way so evils gain majority afterwards. Either some townies die by trusting you or maf stays alive because they didn’t trust you
Homestly I wish consistent Smooth-brainedness was a bannable offense. That is the reason I stopped playing.
They are such Poptarts gee golly
Ah yes, not only will I listen to a mafia's last words (it's not even a good play on 8's part it should just be common sense not to listen to outed evils like that) and execute the person Disguiser told me to, but they are also the only TP claim (idk what the people they jailed N1 and N2 said but no TP claims were public) in the game. I got bored.
who shoots just because they're bored??? and in _ranked_ of all places??? absolute mess of a town, i don't blame you for getting tilted, goodness gracious
Really wish the mods for TOS actually gave a damn anymore. Players like the Vigilante and Jailor 100% should be banned. Telling town to kill two random people because a mafia member told you to, and then your only reasoning for that being "I was bored"? That's either you acting like an idiot because you're embarrassed, or straight up admitting to throwing. Jailor 100% should be banned since he just straight up exe'd a TP claim, refused to listen, and then left the game in embarrassment. This is why I mostly play AA or Coven, since there aren't as many people who just blatantly throw.
Him leaving is the bannable part I think, him exing me was bad strategy but prob not banable
@@TwoPercentSkimm I just think both players shouldn't be allowed anywhere near ranked lol
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Oh it was a tough one lol
Wow, im surprised you uploaded this. Town was dumb but you weren't paying attention and missed alot.
There was very little time to be paying attention since I was basically fake bus'd early in the game lol
Wow. I think your best bet in that scenario would've been to point out that 11 was shooting 3 that night, so there was no need to make the exe play.
"If 3 turns out to be Mafia tomorrow, lynch me. Simple."
Come to think of it, 3 probably should've roleblocked 11 to stay alive. They would've been revealed as town when you came up as Bodyguard the next day.
Yeah I should have but the jailor was so arrogant about it I only tried for half a second then was like whatever.
@@TwoPercentSkimm Yeah. He was dumb. As was the Vigilante... and the Escort to a lesser extent for the reason I pointed out.
Town of Salem is unplayable these days because of the amount of people that throw
And this is why skimm doesn't play anymore
Dude the game isn't fast paced.
I don't think people play it to end it quick
If he is not having fun why is he playing
These are people who only care about their rank to feed their egos. They don't actually like the game. They just want to have a good rank in whatever game where their meager IQ can actually let them have it. That's really all it is. They don't play for the game, they play so they can show off their meaningless rank.
people seem to forget what it actually takes to get banned. as far as i know none of the players here broke any of the rules. first off there are only 2 ways to get banned for dcing, the first one is that if you *announce* that your going to leave. second if you get reported too many times for dcing. you can't really sus out if the dcing was intentional or not because you start to have a false positive rate.
yes both the jailor and the vigi where fucken idoits. but being bad at the game can't get you banned. killing a tp claim when there they were the only one? not a bannable offense as that takes into account game knowledge.
I would argue that 11 straight up threw. Shot a townie, and when confronted their defense was "I' was bored, report me see if I care". That is basically them saying outright that they threw the game.
Yeah 11 I'm unsure of if that would be bannable, but jailor leaving I think could be. I tend to report people who dc in case they dc often. I agree people shouldn't be banned for occasionally disconnecting which can happen to anyone, but I report them in case they do it all the time.
Hope 11 and jailor get banned.
With how non-existent TOS mods have been lately, I wouldn't hold your breath.
Why do people believe evils? Just why...
Been a while since I've seen you this salty
Oh I was salty! And I think it was a reasonable salt lol
PLAY ALL ANY.
All Any are much more competent players. I stopped playing Ranked because how stupid the players are.
hi
This wasn't fun to watch. Way too much salt. Keep up the content tho.
It's understandable why he's so salty.
This was some of the most idiotic play by town ever
It was rough for sure lol
Town of Salem still trash. Haven’t played in years and I’m not sorry for it.
Horrible town. Like…wow. Absolutely horrible.
First
You seem pretty slow.. upping 2 instead of 8 or 9 and then barely defended yourself in jail. Yes we get it, jailor did a bad play but I've never seen something more easily defendable. You didn't even paste will.. and then you exclaim "I WOULD'VE PROTECTED 9" LOL.
Yeah probably could have played better in jail but how fast he hit the exe made me think there was nothing that could be done. I tried to explain to him that exing me wasn't necessary either way.