Years ago my doctor prescribed statins because I had very high cholesterol. I took them for a month and felt so bad I decided I'd rather die young than be miserable. I feel better about my decision all the time.
Hi there! There are other medications than statins you could try Zetia and repatha are two, which shouldn’t cause muscle aches (if that’s what you had) Or sometimes people have luck just trying a different statin Personally, I do think the evidence highly favors having ldl low - check out some other comment threads on this video for why I say fhis
@@N22883 I’m sorry to say, but you are wrong! Do you work for the pharmaceutical companies? Please 🙏 read Dr. Stephen Sinatra’s book The Great Cholesterol Myth, and see if you still feel the same. I had “high cholesterol” and was put on statins which resulted in me having to go to the hospital, so thankfully I stopped taking them against the advice of 3 cardiologists who said that I only had 5 years to live because of my “fatal cardiac markers. That was 23 years ago, and I’m still here without prescription blood thinners or statins thanks to the advice of Dr. Sinatra. There are plenty of supplements that work without all of the awful side effects. For instance, I use Nattokinase, garlic, Curcumin, and fish oil instead of blood thinners. And as far as cholesterol, I use Citrus Bergamot, fish oil, and organic liver supporting supplements. We need cholesterol, especially for our brains. So please 🙏 read his book, so you don’t end up wandering down a freeway.
@@cornstar1253 Governments around the world put money into such research because they want to reduce health care costs by preventing citizens from developing chronic diseases early on in their lives. Poor lipids have been cross-confirmed over and over again (in several high quality meta-studies including hundreds of thousands of participants) to increase cardiovascular disease.
Amazing. That is exactly what happened to me. I just got my cholesterol test results and it is higher. From 180 to 212 went up to 244 (total). This year, I decrease even more carbs, my intake of water increased, and I was able to decreased the stress. So, the number should be lower, but it is higher. And I feel better too. All my family members that got statins, or are getting... I watched their health declining, and dementia settling in slowly, but surely. SAD. SO FOLKS... BE CONSCIOUS. Cholesterol IS NOT THE ENEMY.
Look up the Korean Cholesterol Mortality Study published in 2019. More than 12 million subjects. No money from Adventist cult food industry or big pharma. People between 200 and 240 live the longest. Over 240 barely any increase in deaths until 300. Still not impressive. Under 200 and death for all causes increases hard and fast.
@@charliecam5716 Statins reduce your Testosterone levels and spike your A1C. If you were pre diabetic before, guessing it sent you full ham after beginning statins.
After studying this topic for a few years, I had a rather "heated" discussion with my doctor about she wanted to put me on statins due to high LDL cholesterol. I was on a very low carb diet at the time and felt like a "young" man again! I managed to stop the doctor in her track as she actually were lacking a lot of info about studies made the last ten years or so!! Damn! These doctors are dangerous as they do NOT always follow up on new info coming out of new studies. They should be forced to take a yearly course and catch up on the topic!! Now they are probably killing more people than saving!
Not i: I fired two physicians on the spot when they refused to review the materials (published papers) I tried to hand them. Keep in mind that they work for you. Research their findings, then you let them know the next step you want to take.
A old GP of my refused to see me anymore because my LDL was high and my HDL was high. Though high HDL is good. My triglycerides were mint and low. I said I don’t want to take medication and that I was carnivore and that’s why it’s up. He argued with me for like 10 minutes. Then said “I don’t want to help someone who doesn’t want to be helped”, then charged me for an extra long consultation. I walked out and didn’t pay, as the receptionist yelled at me I said take me to court. In Australia we go in blocks of time. I booked a quick appointment for results that’s 0-5 minutes. So fair enough is he charged me a standard, which is 5-10 minutes. I would’ve paid that. But she charged me for an extra comprehensive consult, which is like the longer most in-depth one. Absolute lemon. I was in there 10 minutes, and most of it was him arguing with me.
It is such an important learning point, and a dangerous one too, that just because someone has the job title and qualification of doctor, it doesn't mean that they are good. Below average doctors, relative to the entire population of doctors, must exist.
@@themekfrommarsMost doctors follow a script or standard of care. They don’t think for themselves. When you find a doc who thinks for himself and questions everything, you’ve found a keeper
I just got my cartoid doppler test results - I am 46 yo, cholesterol around or above 300 for at least last 25 years, am not taking statins, eating plenty of meat, 5 eggs a day, training regularly (weights and cardio) and I have 0 plaque.
Thank you for sharing. I just changed my diet to something similar and the worry of hurting my health in the long term is scary. It's hard to have confidence when for so long we have been told something different.
@@gurselakay thanks tor sharing! More an more doctors start to be open to facts and more resistant to marketing push coming from big pharma but it will take time…
Myelin sheath in our brain is composed with cholesterol. Manipulating cholesterol with drug would break this balance. Damaged myelin sheath cannot transmit nerve signals without degradation. It is not a surprise statins cause cognitive and muscular problems. It was know in early 2000s era.
Cholesterol doesn't cross the blood brain barrier and the brain actually makes it's own supply independently. Statins function hepatically so there's no effect there.
@@dh1147 Not really, its still meaningless. Non of them are the root cause, people with high normal and low cholesterol, regardless of the inner components, die (sometimes of heart disease). High LDL coincides with longevity .... how does that work? It's supposed to be as bad as smoking or whatever.
Unfortunately when I ask doctors to do these labs they say it’s not necessary and it will be the same as regular tests. Please keep telling us about LDL. It never gets old. Information is so important!! Thank you for these videos! ❤
For the person complaining that his doctor would not order certain tests, I recommend you order your own. Ulta lab is easy to set up and not expensive.
I get emails from Quest often with discounts and always reminding that a doctor's order is not required. Insurance might not cover it then but your HSA might still.
We order ours through ULTA labs too. The bloodwork draw we do at Quest. It’s been great as our lazy doctor couldn’t care less about us. He just wants us to take pills and go on a DASH diet. Not happening!😂
My doctor is willing to order all the tests I want, though I have to pay full price if he can't justify them as diagnostics for my insurance. I'm surprised others don't.
Is Quest a certain lab location for blood work to be done? And, is ULTA a mail order lab company? I've never heard of these before. What is the difference between these two? Thanks for any clarity!
I have high cholesterol, high HDL and ldl but low triglycerides and my primary care doc wants me on statins but I refuse. I workout and healthy plus cholesterol helps keep my hormones healthy and more youthful looking
How do you know your cholesterol "keeps your hormones healthy"...what does this even mean? Despite a plethora of empirical evidence high LDL (and more specifically apoB) causes ASCVD...
The cause of the paradox is the belief that LDL is a risk marker. It’s not. You can have high LDL due to high alcohol and fructose consumption; which can cause fatty liver, visceral adiposity and insulin resistance. You can have high LDL because you eat a lower carb diet and youe body needs to transport that fat in the blood to use it; that’s not a bad thing. The result of this is that treating LDL as a risk marker is garbage in garbage out. It matters why LDL is high. It matters if HDL is also high.
I believe that’s correct I got my blood work done last week, and my LDL was 401 but my triglycerides number and HDL were upstanding her words not mine , she said that higher number might had been because of a long fasting which I did like 4 days prior my blood work , but I feel great I do intermittent fasting , and low carb high protein good fats, way of eating I’m a 47 year young lady and feeling great, I used to have hypoglycemia but that was gone once’s I got into a low carb, I just used Stevia as sweetener or eritritol . My biggest problem is I love cakes and cookies and bread but I have manage to find alternatives like keto friendly recipes not the same but sometimes I just go for the real thing without excessive consumption, anyway balance is the key
The cause of the LDL paradox is that many diseases such as cancer decrease LDL. Therefore, a lot of unhealthy people in old age have low LDL. This skews the data and results in the J curve. It's cause and effect. I didn't see in the video where Mike said this. He should have included this info. He's either lying or lacks the knowledge of this. He's doing a disservice to the public.
My cholesterol has been high for years. 240 63 years old. I may be at risk I don’t know. What I do know is I don’t take medication for it and I rarely get sick. Never had Covid and can’t tell last time I had the flu. Blood pressure always good 120/80 or close to it, resting heart rate 57-58
@@AbdijalilAydid actually no! I eat a crappy diet and as of late not exercising as I should. Trying to do better. I do work outside do I do get some walking and physical activity. Maybe just good genetics.
Talk about Lipoprotein(a). "Remarkably, one-quarter of the centenarians had high Lp(a) serum levels even though they never suffered from atherosclerosis-related diseases." 1998 G. Baggio.
It’s very hard finding a cardiologist that doesn’t want to put you on a Stain drug. I’m sharing this study with a new doctor next month and will continue to fight being medicated. 66 year old male. 5/21 Total - 173 HDL - 53 LDL - 108 (high, less than
I always had high level of HDL and thought it was good, close to my 70s, I went on a vegan diet, my total cholesterol came down but to my dismay my HDL came down compared to my LDL that went up slightly, and I was consuming basically nuts and seeds and olive oil in addition to oats, vegetables, fruits, a little rice, some wheat products. Now, it is amazing to see that this is actually a good thing. What a surprise.
@Highintensityhealth, thanks Mike for your Work and effort you putt in this Videos. Its nearly a dayly habbit for me, listening to your video beside my morning routin. Regards from Germany
When I shifted to a low carb diet and doing more exercise, my LDL went up but low triglycerides. I compared my old blood test when I was partying and drinking, my LDL was low but high on triglycerides. I'm healthier now but my doctor is prescribing me statin.
absolutely no harm in ldl, the new lmhr study and the keto ldl group study should help them see your perspective, and absolutely dont take statins, keep eating bacon lol and enjoy your newfound health
Mutzel is not a doctor, but he has a physique many would love to have. Good that you are looking at research studies that reflect what many of us are experiencing in real life.
@mindfulperspective111 I was just answering someone's comment... He doesn't have a medical degree, and that's a fact. The person I replied thought he did.
Frankly after all the lying and gaslighting by mds, I don't care what Mike's formal education is. You can learn. Edison didn't have a degree,nor did Bell.
@@iss8504 Ok that's fine, and I agree. Blindly listening to a credential is an appeal to authority logical fallacy, but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have a medical degree and is not a doctor. To say he is would be incorrect, hence the correction I made replying to the person who thought he had a medical degree.
i don’t know what is or isn’t true but neither do doctors. used to have high ldl when i was very young and was told by the doctors to eat low fat, high carb diet which i was already doing. tried the exact opposite and started consuming lots of animal and higher fat food and to my surprise my ldl went down. in my case it might be related to thyroid, autoimmunity and inflammation, as it seems that when i eat less processed food and more meat, dairy, eggs and such both my thyroid and overall cholesterol (including ldl) seem to be doing better. other than that, i’m regular with exercise, do lots of weightlifting and tend to stay away from alcohol and sugar, so my best guess is that it’s my entire lifestyle combined. i find the obsession with the ldl and mortality to be ridiculous as if our entire life and health wasn’t a compounded result of everything we do.
I've never had high cholesterol. Not even during my high-carb days. I now eat plenty of raw or raw-isk kidney fat and my LDL cholesterol is still very low.
I just made a video about the importance of cholesterol, and brain health was one of the benefits. The brain requires about 25% of the total bodies cholesterol cholesterol
Studies show us high protein diet leads to lower lifespan unless you take cholesterol at the same time. Cholesterol is a rate limiter of protein metabolism and muscle production. We've known this for ten years.
I am 55 yo, 60 kg, on carnivorous diet and my triglycerides came at 63, HDL 57 and LDL 220. I m pretty sure tomorrow my doctor will prescribe statins. I d rather change diet habits to keto diet and increase exercise instead. Any opinions? Thanx in advance.
I am a 59 year young male. I have a 1,200 CAC score. I also have heart disease. Wearing a heart monitor for thirty days. I am also recovering from a brain stem stroke. Changing cardiologists to get another CAC score, angiogram or heart cath. Considering a statin for anti-inflammatory benefits, at least until I get the tests.
I just did labs after eating carnivore for 2 months. Total cholesterol was 406, up from 262. Triglycerides 91, down from 101. HDL 63, up from 59. LDL 325, up from 183. Vldl 18, down from 20. My trig/hdl ratio is 1.44, down from 1.7 on prior labs. I’m feeling a bit stressed with my high cholesterol as it seems higher than the average posters on carnivore channels. Additional info-I’m 50, and active (lift weights 2X or 3x a week and play pickleball at a 5.0+ level 5 or 6x a week). My body fat is 17%, muscle mass 29 lbs, and body mass index 25.2. I’m good with anyone weighing in with an opinion? I appreciate any feedback to alleviate my concerns. Thank you.
Please also tell your viewers that epidemiology studies also show a U Shaped paradox for Obesity, Blood Pressure, and A1C. So we should all try to be fat, hypertensive and diabetic to live longer. OK sure.
Just had this discussion with my doctor. My LDL was 123 and he wanted to put me on a statin to get me below 100. I told him I understood the recommended protocol, but that I felt the understanding of LDL seemed uncertain to me and that I didn't want the statin. My HDL was normal range, and my triglycerides were very good, so he said he was okay with it.
Hi, I’m Filipino that living in U.K. my cholesterol is a bit high can’t remember how much and my GP keep telling me to take statin but I refused because I’m doing fasting for 2 years now and my diabetes is gone. Currently I am taking high blood pressure tablet because I’m suffering with Graves’ disease.
And it’s definitely worth finding a functional medicine doctor. You do pay more but they’re so much better than a conventional medicine doctor. I do take 500 mg of niacin at night.
I have had very high LDL levels for decades, tried a statin way back and could not tolerate it, thankfully and then get educated. I got a decent life insurace police at age 68 - the insurance companies know better than anyone what groups of people are going to die when. If they get it wrong they go out of business. My wife has had "perfect" cholesterol levels and didnt get a policy. I bike 100 miles per week and am enjoying life.
Cholesterol is not the issue and there is no risk to your health regarding cholesterol. The issue is you consuming plants, fruits, and seed oils that oxidizing the lipoproteins. If you reader wants to optimize your health go outside get sun, grounding and start eating meat and the associated fats and don't combine it with sugars or fiber and add Cerule stamcelles supplement and there you go. Cheers!
Magic, this video came at the right time. I'm 64, my last blood test is done, in relation to a regular ordinary health check for older people and no surprise, my doctor is calling me to tell me, my Cholesterol is too high. I rejected statins in the first place, but I'm not sure, I do it right. My diet has changed, less meat, more plant based food and less butter more olive oil and avocado. Just yesterday seen Dr. Sten Ekbergs video where he made a self test, 100 tablespoon Olive oil in ten days. In a result, he had a significant increase in Cholesterol. So, it seems my diet needs to be adjusted. I take a lot of olive oil, depends on suggestion of some doctor, who says, it is healthy even in high dose. Thanks a million.✌
Extra virgin olive oil is 14% saturated fat. It's only good as a substitute for butter and other foods higher in saturated fat. I added olive oil to my diet to get extra calories to gain weight last year. My LDL went from 90s to 113. I got rid of olive oil and my LDL went back down to 93. This was the 2nd time this happened. Olive oil is often touted for its polyphenols. Those can be found in fruits and veggies.
@@IPMan-me6lo In the short-term, yes. Good luck with doing that for the long term. High LDL has no symptoms. The evidence of high LDL causing atherosclerosis is strong, especially the Mendelian randomization studies. If you want believe you know more than the experts and take that risk, that's on you (and the taxpayers who will have to pay for your medical care).
@@jakubchrobry3701 Sorry? I eat all my life butter, never margarine or any other processed fat and never ever had any problem with high cholesterol. Just mid 2022-2023 when switched to olive oil and less butter, my cholesterol raised and my GP running around with the bell to announce he will put me on statins.
Idk if this is true but YEARS ago i read that eating a grapefruit first thing in the morning helped people manage their bad cholesterol better than any drug without the side effects 🤷 idk
It may even be caused by cutting them out. I had flare-ups for a couple of years after going carnivore. All my arthritis and other issues cleared up though, so it was well worth dealing with. I would recommend they take mineral citrates during the day with plenty of water and supplement a high dose of inositol IP-6 at night.
Look up the Korean Cholesterol Mortality Study published in 2019. Over 12 million subjects. Between 200 and 240 live the longest. Over 200 barely any increase in death until 300. Still not impressive. Under 200 and deaths for all causes increases hard and fast. Includes suicide and violence.
Mine was too, 264, and my dr wants to put me on a statin, I said no way, told me to eat meat only twice a month. LDL was 167, HDL, 77, Triglycerides 85.
I think more and more people are understanding that it's the oxidized dense LDL (remnant cholesterol) that's the issue, and not *all* LDL. I'm surprised to see these studies studying *all* cholesterol.
It usually takes about 20 years for the medical profession to accept that they were wrong......tobacco, low fat/ high carb diet, eating eggs, telling older people not to do high intensity exercise and a long list of etcs.......
They (medical community) will sometimes (when the financial rewards dry up) stop pushing their nonsense and lies when enough of the population wakes up.
I’ve always had high cholesterol and have been advised to go on statins and I’ve always refused although I do have high ApoB and Lp(a). I started taking Niacin (B3) 100mg which has helped me lower them slowly, I’m in my 70s. What are you thoughts please.
Are lipoproteins the cause of atherosclerosis? Yes, but only if the following two criteria are concurrently satiaifed: 1. They are oxidized and 2. They reside in the endothelium. Optimizing for the reduction of lipoproteins in circulation pales in comparison to the results achievable by optimizing for confereing said lipoproteins with protection from oxidation. The highest leverage ways to prevent lipoprotein oxidation are to 1. Avoid industrial "vegetable" oils like the plague 2. Refrain from cigarette smoking 3. Increase your ratio of saturated to polyunsaturated fat intake and crucially, 4. Augment your antioxidant status (vitamin E, C, wild blueberries, 100% pomegranate juice, etc). If you follow these 4 action steps and, for example, your LDL levels happen to increase, keep pressing forward, because there is not a single lipoprotein in its native form in the human body that will result in plaque development, irrespective of the amount in circulation.
Ok so don’t smoke, don’t use oils, eat more saturated fat and not polyunsaturated fats and increase your antioxidants from eating fruit. Is this what you’re saying? Also what about increasing your nitric oxide?
@@Primetime_dads Yes to all of the above. Also, this often gets overlooked, but having excessive ferritin (stored iron) is pro oxidative as well, so it's prudent for men to periodically donate blood if, for example, their ferritin exceeds 250. Also, the plant-based crowd will point out the fact that there are cases of atherosclerosis in the Maasai people, but it has nothing to do with their saturated fat intake, but rather, the iron in the blood they drink. Also, this is absolutely pivotal: avoid ghee like the plague. Unfortunately nobody in the animal-based or keto/carnivore community is discussing this very disconcerting matter, which is that ghee is actually directly atherogenic because of its' oxysterol content. Ghee is clarified butter, and it's the clarification process that results in this. Just stick to butter, beef tallow or coconut oil for cooking.
@@JasonActualization so you would say a diet of red meat and fruits is the best diet: because that’s what I eat!!!! I’ve just come from being plant based for almost 9 years, been on an animal based diet for 3 months now…. I just can’t do low carb man, it’s just not in me. It’s either gonna be white rice or damn fruit, I just feel like I thrive off that
The doctors' willingness not to question the institutions that gave them the higherarchy they paid for in conjunction with their belief that people who aren't doctors can't know things too is absolutely their fault.
The solution to drs. not doing the tests is simple: you tell them to do it, that it's your health, you want it done, and the dr. is there for you, not the other way around.
Can you do a video about if you have high cholesterol (hdl, ldl) because you eat a whole food animal based diet but you have high inflammation markers like ox ldl and lp-pla2, what can be the causes and how to lower inflammation other than diet? because my diet is already good.
The vegan docs argue that people that are seriously ill often lose a lot of weight and can’t eat essentially lowering their cholesterol. So this distorts these types of findings. I just started watching the video so I will be listening to see if this is adjusted for.
My friend had at a CAC done at age 48. Scored over 200. Ldl was around 120. He was put on a low fat diet and of course, the statin. Kept eating breads, pastas, and lots of fruit. ldl dropped to 40. 2.5 years later, his new CAC score is well over 400. These numbers show a massive increase in calcium development rate. I see two possible reasons, neither of which is good for lipid theory. 1. Lowering the ldl and his fat intake had no good effect and actually increased his rate of plaque development. 2. The statin increased the rate of calcium deposit. If 1 is true, lipid theory is toast, at least for him. Probably more folks as well. If 2 is true, then the increased calcium provides an alternative mechanism for ALL STATIN SUCCESS DATA that has nothing to do with lowering ldl and that undermines every single study ever done where statins improved heart comes and lowering ldl was cited as the reason.
I took Pravastatin for a few days… I’m a diabetic. The day after I started taking it, I began to have severe vertigo. It continued… a few days after that, I lost my father. I was just devastated. I will never forget those days. Anyway, I told my endocrinologist that I will stop the statin and he was okay with it. He told me to buy flax seeds whole and grind them myself and take a tsp with every meal. So even they know it’s not necessary to take statins! And they still prescribe them. Why? Because big pharma! 😡😡
My mother was told she had high cholesterol in her 50's and continued to be treated for such until her death from dementia aged 93. 3 years before her death i gound out her cholesterol was very very low, the GP thought it was ok, but I am sure it contributed to her dementia and death.
So, I am a resident physician and I do primary care as part of my training, and I get that we (doctors) are not perfect, but I will say, I feel like this channel unfairly condemns us, and I see it in the comments as well, everyone looking for a reason to mistrust doctors. Listen, you are in charge of your life, and it is fair to question doctors and do your own research, but I will say the breakdown of studies on this podcast isn't the most robust even if it is better than other podcasts I've seen. All that to say, the guidelines are not to simply start a statin on anyone who has high lipids. It is made in the context of metabolic disease. I have never started a patient on a statin for isolated hyperlipidemia. It is always in the context of metabolic syndrome (high BP, overweight or obesity, diabetes). In cardiac health journals it is well established that patients who fall into a high risk for cardiometabolic disease have a reduced mortality with dropping lipid levels and being on statin. The life saving measure may be from lower lipids, but it may also be from anti-inflammatory as well as cardiac plaque stabilizing effects. Mike, I know you hedge that you aren't giving medical advice, and I think you are doing your audience a service about encouraging working out and getting into shape. This is not a study that could be generalized to the US or I assume most of your audience. The Swedish society has different food sources (less processed), different lifestyles (much more active), happier (meaning less stressed and less depressed), a more homogenous society, and lower rates of diabetes and metabolic syndrome. All this study tells me is that doctors in Sweden need to be careful lowering lipid levels to fit with where most of the data is collected and published which is with sick, overweight, less homogenous Western societies.
Don’t take it personally. We aren’t looking for reasons to mistrust doctors. Most of us have had doctors cause us to mistrust them. Sounds like you are a good doctor. They exist. Thankfully, I have found one. But the reality is that many are just shills for pharma and follow a flow chart to prescribe a medicine.
70 yo female ketovore for five years or so. LDL is 300 all other markers are very good. My dr is losing her mind and pushing for drugs. I’m asking for more advanced testing etc it’s a difficult place to be 😢
Is cardio exercise going to be better for heart health in general compare to strength training? How much weighting should one put between the two types of exercises.
I have tried to get your bloodwork sheet several times but I never get the confirmation email. I have also sent you an email asking for help with no reply.
What if you have high hdl, high ldl, low triglycerides, low lp(a) and feel good. But you have high oxidized ldl and high Lp-PLA2? Is that a problem or is it just someone to be expected when you have high cholesterol by relation?
Work out why you ldl is getting oxidised, coz that is definitely an issue... Start taking 10-20g vit c spread throughout the day, but watch your bowl tolerance, to start combating it while you find the cause.
MY NEIGHBOUR WEIGHS 170 POUNDS, SOME HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND A CHOLESTEROL OF 987 . HE IS A HIGH ANIMALS BASE DIET. HE WAS HOSPITALIZED AND PLACED ON STATIN DRUGS AND DIET OF SORTS
Mike, I have a friend who had a heart attack about 4 years ago. Her cholesterol numbers and her CRP were great which led me to wonder, why did she have a heart attack? So I started researching. I came across a study, sorry, but I can’t remember the name. The study was investigating why people with cholesterol in the “normal ranges,” according to their accepted ranges, were still having heart attacks. Do you know what their conclusion was? They decided after reviewing their data THAT THE CURRENT ACCEPTED RANGES USED NEEDED TO BE LOWERED!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 So once again, it’s so clear that doctors and researchers are so brainwashed and corrupted that we have to question everything we hear. All I could think of was if they lower the ranges again, we are just going to have more people wandering the streets and not knowing how to function anymore BECAUSE WE NEED CHOLESTEROL FOR OUR BRAINS!
It's worth noting that some heart attacks are electrical/neurological and no plaque is required to have one. Valve and chamber malformations can lead to complications as well.
All detractors are going to claim "reverse causality", however, there is actually no evidence for reverse causality, and "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
Because I already have a neurological disorder known as epilepsy I will never allow my doctor to force me to take the statin he prescribed especially when my triglycerides were as low as 0.7mmol.
MY APO B IS 155 AND REMNANT IS 23. ALL MY PARTICLE NUMBERS ARE WAY OUT OF RANGE. I HAVE HAD A CAC TEST TWICE AND IT CAME BACK ZERO BOTH TIMES. HAVE TOLD MY DOCTOR I WILL NOT TAKE STATINS. I AM BEGINNING TO TAKE RED YEAST RICE AND CINNAMON AND I TAKE BERBERINE. WITH MY APO B AND ALL OTHER OUT OF RANGE NUMBERS, SHOULD I CONSIDER STATINS?
Here's a ChatGPT summary: - Max and the host discuss the U-shaped association between elevated cholesterol levels and reduced all-cause and cardiovascular mortality. - They reference a study titled "U-shaped relationship with non-HDL cholesterol with all cause and cardiovascular mortality in men without statin therapy." - The host shares an image to illustrate the association and addresses why cholesterol is still a relevant topic. - Many people who improve their health by reducing carbohydrate and processed food intake see an increase in LDL cholesterol, which can concern healthcare practitioners. - The host aims to share evidence with clients, noting that it takes time for primary health professionals to implement new findings from peer-reviewed academic medical literature. - High non-HDL cholesterol levels are protective against all-cause mortality, severe COVID-19, and cardiovascular disease in individuals over 60, known as the cholesterol paradox. - The host mentions a Stanford University study comparing vegan and omnivorous diets and their effects on LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, and HDL levels. - The host plans to do a deep breakdown of the Stanford study and discusses the cholesterol paradox, citing studies that show high LDL cholesterol is protective in older individuals. - High LDL cholesterol is associated with lower mortality in people over 60 and is protective against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. - The host reviews a chart from a study showing survival probability in relation to non-HDL cholesterol levels, indicating that higher levels are associated with higher survival probability. - The Apolipoprotein Mortality Risk (AMORIS) cohort study is discussed, showing that high cholesterol is protective and associated with greater odds of becoming a centenarian. - The host recommends the myoscience berberine fasting accelerator as a natural way to support fasting and curb appetite. - Main message: Recent studies suggest a U-shaped association between cholesterol levels and mortality, with high non-HDL cholesterol levels being protective in older individuals, challenging the traditional view that lower cholesterol is always better.
@@elinino5275 the nature of the prompt for these summaries is such that I provide the entire transcript of the video and ask it to create a summary based on the given text. That reduces the risk of hallucinations to a minimum, as it will not write what it thinks it knows, but what I actually sees in the given context.
@mbrochh82 doesn't matter, chatgpt is programed by humans. It's not some magic know it all wizard. If it were it wouldn't respond by saying a man can get pregnant. That absurd at the history levels and an insult to real intellect
A Layman's Understanding: Cholesterol The Truth? Did you know the Brain signals the Liver each day to create a certain amount of Cholesterol and the Liver also stores about 5,000 Cholesterol Units for emergency repairs. Any leftover Cholesterol at the end of the day is taken back into the Liver to be stored. Cholesterol is a precursor for making over 200 Hormones and Hormone-like substances to keep our bodies healthy. People with High Cholesterol live longer than people with Low Cholesterol. Cholesterol is the First Thing we need to not block. There is no such thing as Bad Cholesterol. In fact, Cholesterol is a Natural Healing Substance of the body. Cholesterol is your friend and helper. The so-called Cholesterol Test does not actually measure Cholesterol but instead the Test measures a B Protein having nothing to do with Cholesterol. Cholesterol is the First Thing we need to create new Cells. If you take medication to prevent Cholesterol you are preventing yourself from being healthy. High LDL Cholesterol = Lower Risk of Death: NEW 22 Year Study th-cam.com/video/4nm-xIq7I2Q/w-d-xo.html Disclaimer: This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.
Long time subscriber, love your videos, BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO QUITE MESSING WITH YOUR MIC. it is very distracting almost un-watchable for me. PLEASE get a mic stand that does not have to be continually adjusted. Love Dave J
My problem is I have had a heart attack and inclusions from plaque to arteries in my heart. So having a high ldl 210 is driving my cardiologist crazy even though I never felt better after being on a carnival diet and quit all my statins
70 yr old, IF daily with eating window 4pm - 9pm, high protein with some veggies and limited fruit. High LDL over 300 - I think because measured during fasting phase and mostly keto metabolism. Dr wants me on statins but every other test is fine so I refuse.
In the 1970's an LDL of 300 was the acceptable standard. Today the standard is 200. This should tell you everything you need to know about the organizations that sell pharmaceuticals.
“As a non-physician”….yeah, no crap. I’ll choose to get my info from practicing physicians that actually see patients like Peter Attia and Thomas Dayspring.
The authors conclusion of this study: Conclusion From a population-based cohort study base on the national representative database, our study demonstrated that non-HDL-C was U-shaped and related to all-cause and cardiovascular mortality among men without statin therapy. The more clear risk stratification of non-HDL-C and comprehensive strategic management to deal with dyslipidemia deserves further investigation for confirmation. Notice the last sentence.
Yes how hard do you think it is for at doctors to admit that they have lied for 50 years! For Jobs, money and control. Taking advange of lesser intelligent people, that's about 85% of the worlds population. How the f..can a ensyme who the body have being finetuning for 100' thousends of years be the bad one! It's so stupid to even considerd it.
when I tried to discuss about Apo B and small dense LDL , my doctor just ignored me. I took statin and it really can help to lower my LDL. My doctor satisfied with my blood test numbers but to myself, I did not feel better rather I feel weaker, my legs became weaker and weaker not even to take a long walk, my eyesight got blurred images. I tried to discuss these with my doctor but he just simply ignored me. My doctor not seemed to believe me and I felt helpless and disappointed.
My own personal approach? If I don't understand the care regime, or the MD can't explain the WHY, I don't do it. You are the best judge, in partnership with your doctor, to judge if care is working.
Not sure why you keep saying there's nuance. Whether you cholesterol is high, Apob is high, remnant cholesterol is high or all low, it's all dependent on your metabolic health. If your metabolically sick it will mess with cholesterol no matter how high or low.
Also the higher cholesterol was not the only factor…other levels were decreased in the centenarians. Alone the cholesterol may not be the most important factor in this cohort.
As a 70 year old in perfect health going to 100 myself following this ------> Diet, Exercise, Sleep, Socializing, Learning New Things, Believe in Yourself, Turn Off the Effing TV
Years ago my doctor prescribed statins because I had very high cholesterol. I took them for a month and felt so bad I decided I'd rather die young than be miserable. I feel better about my decision all the time.
Hi there!
There are other medications than statins you could try
Zetia and repatha are two, which shouldn’t cause muscle aches (if that’s what you had)
Or sometimes people have luck just trying a different statin
Personally, I do think the evidence highly favors having ldl low - check out some other comment threads on this video for why I say fhis
@@N22883who paid for this evidence?
@@N22883
I’m sorry to say, but you are wrong! Do you work for the pharmaceutical companies? Please 🙏 read Dr. Stephen Sinatra’s book The Great Cholesterol Myth, and see if you still feel the same.
I had “high cholesterol” and was put on statins which resulted in me having to go to the hospital, so thankfully I stopped taking them against the advice of 3 cardiologists who said that I only had 5 years to live because of my “fatal cardiac markers. That was 23 years ago, and I’m still here without prescription blood thinners or statins thanks to the advice of Dr. Sinatra.
There are plenty of supplements that work without all of the awful side effects. For instance, I use Nattokinase, garlic, Curcumin, and fish oil instead of blood thinners. And as far as cholesterol, I use Citrus Bergamot, fish oil, and organic liver supporting supplements. We need cholesterol, especially for our brains. So please 🙏 read his book, so you don’t end up wandering down a freeway.
@@cornstar1253 Governments around the world put money into such research because they want to reduce health care costs by preventing citizens from developing chronic diseases early on in their lives.
Poor lipids have been cross-confirmed over and over again (in several high quality meta-studies including hundreds of thousands of participants) to increase cardiovascular disease.
Yes Sir.
Amazing. That is exactly what happened to me. I just got my cholesterol test results and it is higher. From 180 to 212 went up to 244 (total). This year, I decrease even more carbs, my intake of water increased, and I was able to decreased the stress. So, the number should be lower, but it is higher. And I feel better too. All my family members that got statins, or are getting... I watched their health declining, and dementia settling in slowly, but surely. SAD. SO FOLKS... BE CONSCIOUS. Cholesterol IS NOT THE ENEMY.
Look up the Korean Cholesterol Mortality Study published in 2019. More than 12 million subjects. No money from Adventist cult food industry or big pharma.
People between 200 and 240 live the longest. Over 240 barely any increase in deaths until 300. Still not impressive. Under 200 and death for all causes increases hard and fast.
When you restrict carbs your cholesterol will go up believe it or not. Look into lean mass hyper responders.
me too .. 221 !
I’m one of those LMHR types
I used Lipitor for years and developed diabetes...I am the only one in my family with diabetes, and I know that Crestol produces diabetes in the UK.
@@charliecam5716 Statins reduce your Testosterone levels and spike your A1C. If you were pre diabetic before, guessing it sent you full ham after beginning statins.
After studying this topic for a few years, I had a rather "heated" discussion with my doctor about she wanted to put me on statins due to high LDL cholesterol. I was on a very low carb diet at the time and felt like a "young" man again! I managed to stop the doctor in her track as she actually were lacking a lot of info about studies made the last ten years or so!! Damn! These doctors are dangerous as they do NOT always follow up on new info coming out of new studies. They should be forced to take a yearly course and catch up on the topic!! Now they are probably killing more people than saving!
In the history of mankind doctors have killed more people than they have saved.
There are millions and millions of doctors all over the world having the same case.
Not i: I fired two physicians on the spot when they refused to review the materials (published papers) I tried to hand them.
Keep in mind that they work for you. Research their findings, then you let them know the next step you want to take.
@@RRoocckkyy50 th-cam.com/video/CxX51n2Z0vc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=d_2vvTxgFtF4p0Md
Similar story for me
A old GP of my refused to see me anymore because my LDL was high and my HDL was high. Though high HDL is good. My triglycerides were mint and low. I said I don’t want to take medication and that I was carnivore and that’s why it’s up. He argued with me for like 10 minutes. Then said “I don’t want to help someone who doesn’t want to be helped”, then charged me for an extra long consultation.
I walked out and didn’t pay, as the receptionist yelled at me I said take me to court. In Australia we go in blocks of time. I booked a quick appointment for results that’s 0-5 minutes. So fair enough is he charged me a standard, which is 5-10 minutes. I would’ve paid that. But she charged me for an extra comprehensive consult, which is like the longer most in-depth one. Absolute lemon. I was in there 10 minutes, and most of it was him arguing with me.
It is such an important learning point, and a dangerous one too, that just because someone has the job title and qualification of doctor, it doesn't mean that they are good. Below average doctors, relative to the entire population of doctors, must exist.
I wouldn't have paid
@@themekfrommarsDoctors are like car mechanics. They read the manual and repair things. At least with car mechanics they know what they're doing.
Your numbers are a good exemple of a lean mass hyper responder..
@@themekfrommarsMost doctors follow a script or standard of care. They don’t think for themselves. When you find a doc who thinks for himself and questions everything, you’ve found a keeper
I just got my cartoid doppler test results - I am 46 yo, cholesterol around or above 300 for at least last 25 years, am not taking statins, eating plenty of meat, 5 eggs a day, training regularly (weights and cardio) and I have 0 plaque.
Awesome and my doctor gave me statins with total 201 of cholesterol. I’m not taking them though.
Thank you for sharing. I just changed my diet to something similar and the worry of hurting my health in the long term is scary. It's hard to have confidence when for so long we have been told something different.
I am 64 . On low carb/ keto with IF for 14 years. My CAC score is 0. Cardiologists shocked..😂
@@gurselakay thanks tor sharing! More an more doctors start to be open to facts and more resistant to marketing push coming from big pharma but it will take time…
How to cheque for plaque?
Myelin sheath in our brain is composed with cholesterol. Manipulating cholesterol with drug would break this balance. Damaged myelin sheath cannot transmit nerve signals without degradation. It is not a surprise statins cause cognitive and muscular problems. It was know in early 2000s era.
Cholesterol doesn't cross the blood brain barrier and the brain actually makes it's own supply independently. Statins function hepatically so there's no effect there.
The brain uses more cholesterol than any other organ of the body. We need it. Now with statins there is more dementia. It’s always about the money.
Many people can’t tolerate statins. It raises the liver enzymes.
@@brainstay8254assuming the brain is provided good quality building blocks.
That's why we have seen Alzheimer's and dementia go up-- Staten drug prescriptions!
I wish they would have shown more than just total cholesterol in the centenarian study. Would have been nice to see LDL, HDL, and Triglyceride levels.
LDL means nothing
So that we could have TG/HDL ratio which is much more interesting than total cholesterol alone..
@@bobdec6665 elevated LDL means look at apo b or particle size. It means nothing when those are normal but LDL is elevated.
@@dh1147 Not really, its still meaningless. Non of them are the root cause, people with high normal and low cholesterol, regardless of the inner components, die (sometimes of heart disease). High LDL coincides with longevity .... how does that work? It's supposed to be as bad as smoking or whatever.
Unfortunately when I ask doctors to do these labs they say it’s not necessary and it will be the same as regular tests.
Please keep telling us about LDL. It never gets old. Information is so important!! Thank you for these videos! ❤
For the person complaining that his doctor would not order certain tests, I recommend you order your own. Ulta lab is easy to set up and not expensive.
I've been ordering through them and getting tested at Quest for 4 years now. Works great!
I get emails from Quest often with discounts and always reminding that a doctor's order is not required. Insurance might not cover it then but your HSA might still.
We order ours through ULTA labs too. The bloodwork draw we do at Quest. It’s been great as our lazy doctor couldn’t care less about us. He just wants us to take pills and go on a DASH diet. Not happening!😂
My doctor is willing to order all the tests I want, though I have to pay full price if he can't justify them as diagnostics for my insurance. I'm surprised others don't.
Is Quest a certain lab location for blood work to be done?
And, is ULTA a mail order lab company? I've never heard of these before. What is the difference between these two? Thanks for any clarity!
I have high cholesterol, high HDL and ldl but low triglycerides and my primary care doc wants me on statins but I refuse. I workout and healthy plus cholesterol helps keep my hormones healthy and more youthful looking
How do you know your cholesterol "keeps your hormones healthy"...what does this even mean? Despite a plethora of empirical evidence high LDL (and more specifically apoB) causes ASCVD...
The cause of the paradox is the belief that LDL is a risk marker. It’s not. You can have high LDL due to high alcohol and fructose consumption; which can cause fatty liver, visceral adiposity and insulin resistance. You can have high LDL because you eat a lower carb diet and youe body needs to transport that fat in the blood to use it; that’s not a bad thing.
The result of this is that treating LDL as a risk marker is garbage in garbage out. It matters why LDL is high. It matters if HDL is also high.
I believe that’s correct I got my blood work done last week, and my LDL was 401 but my triglycerides number and HDL were upstanding her words not mine , she said that higher number might had been because of a long fasting which I did like 4 days prior my blood work , but I feel great I do intermittent fasting , and low carb high protein good fats, way of eating I’m a 47 year young lady and feeling great, I used to have hypoglycemia but that was gone once’s I got into a low carb, I just used Stevia as sweetener or eritritol . My biggest problem is I love cakes and cookies and bread but I have manage to find alternatives like keto friendly recipes not the same but sometimes I just go for the real thing without excessive consumption, anyway balance is the key
Definitely...lol is the titanic, not the iceberg
Ldl
The cause of the LDL paradox is that many diseases such as cancer decrease LDL. Therefore, a lot of unhealthy people in old age have low LDL. This skews the data and results in the J curve. It's cause and effect. I didn't see in the video where Mike said this. He should have included this info. He's either lying or lacks the knowledge of this. He's doing a disservice to the public.
It can't be a paradox when the initial hypothesis was flawed in the first place.
Was not flawed just straight out hijacked.
Yeah, it’s more like a “correction” than a paradox
Best book on this subject is "A statin-free life" from Aseem Malhotra
My cholesterol has been high for years. 240 63 years old. I may be at risk I don’t know. What I do know is I don’t take medication for it and I rarely get sick. Never had Covid and can’t tell last time I had the flu. Blood pressure always good 120/80 or close to it, resting heart rate 57-58
Good for you! Why try to fix something which isn't broke.
you seem great in for your age, do you run or do other type of exercise. and what is ur diet???
-im just curious
@@AbdijalilAydid actually no! I eat a crappy diet and as of late not exercising as I should. Trying to do better. I do work outside do I do get some walking and physical activity. Maybe just good genetics.
Talk about Lipoprotein(a). "Remarkably, one-quarter of the centenarians had high Lp(a) serum levels even though they never suffered from atherosclerosis-related diseases." 1998 G. Baggio.
Thanks for calling on who the founders are on these research studies. Context is key.
It’s very hard finding a cardiologist that doesn’t want to put you on a Stain drug. I’m sharing this study with a new doctor next month and will continue to fight being medicated. 66 year old male.
5/21
Total - 173
HDL - 53
LDL - 108 (high, less than
I always had high level of HDL and thought it was good, close to my 70s, I went on a vegan diet, my total cholesterol came down but to my dismay my HDL came down compared to my LDL that went up slightly, and I was consuming basically nuts and seeds and olive oil in addition to oats, vegetables, fruits, a little rice, some wheat products. Now, it is amazing to see that this is actually a good thing. What a surprise.
@Highintensityhealth, thanks Mike for your Work and effort you putt in this Videos. Its nearly a dayly habbit for me, listening to your video beside my morning routin. Regards from Germany
And from UK.
When I shifted to a low carb diet and doing more exercise, my LDL went up but low triglycerides. I compared my old blood test when I was partying and drinking, my LDL was low but high on triglycerides. I'm healthier now but my doctor is prescribing me statin.
Don’t listen to your doc
Welcome to the LMHR club. It comes with a red pill, lots of nerding out on lipids, and lots of arguments with your doctor. No tee.
Exact same thing for me! I told my doc no statins. I told her even if she did prescribe them, I won’t take them. She frowned and said “ok”.
absolutely no harm in ldl, the new lmhr study and the keto ldl group study should help them see your perspective, and absolutely dont take statins, keep eating bacon lol and enjoy your newfound health
I am „ borderline” LMHR, my BMI 20, want to „save” my brain 👍🏻
Perhaps it's time to completely overhaul the cholesterol lab result settings/limits. This is a new era! 🙂
There is no paradox, they have always been wrong about cholesterol and heart disease.
You’re wrong, statins increase life span by 15-20%
@@wread1982 maybe for men with heart disease, which is the only group it has been shown to have a positive effect.
That’s right. I love how they say it’s a paradox. No paradox, they were wrong all along. 😂 But notice he keeps saying it.
Exactly, there is no such thing as a paradox. It simply means the science is wrong.
Love you Mike, thanks for your extroadinary work. I never get tired of these video of yours.
So I should continue eating butter, meat, and eggs at alarming rates? Got it will do
Mutzel is not a doctor, but he has a physique many would love to have. Good that you are looking at research studies that reflect what many of us are experiencing in real life.
I think he has a medical degree?
@@kam0406
No he doesn't. He has a Master of Science in Human Nutrition (and a Bachelor of Science in Cell and Moleculer Biology). He's not a doctor.
@mindfulperspective111
I was just answering someone's comment...
He doesn't have a medical degree, and that's a fact. The person I replied thought he did.
Frankly after all the lying and gaslighting by mds, I don't care what Mike's formal education is. You can learn. Edison didn't have a degree,nor did Bell.
@@iss8504
Ok that's fine, and I agree. Blindly listening to a credential is an appeal to authority logical fallacy, but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have a medical degree and is not a doctor. To say he is would be incorrect, hence the correction I made replying to the person who thought he had a medical degree.
i don’t know what is or isn’t true but neither do doctors. used to have high ldl when i was very young and was told by the doctors to eat low fat, high carb diet which i was already doing. tried the exact opposite and started consuming lots of animal and higher fat food and to my surprise my ldl went down. in my case it might be related to thyroid, autoimmunity and inflammation, as it seems that when i eat less processed food and more meat, dairy, eggs and such both my thyroid and overall cholesterol (including ldl) seem to be doing better. other than that, i’m regular with exercise, do lots of weightlifting and tend to stay away from alcohol and sugar, so my best guess is that it’s my entire lifestyle combined. i find the obsession with the ldl and mortality to be ridiculous as if our entire life and health wasn’t a compounded result of everything we do.
I've never had high cholesterol. Not even during my high-carb days. I now eat plenty of raw or raw-isk kidney fat and my LDL cholesterol is still very low.
I just made a video about the importance of cholesterol, and brain health was one of the benefits. The brain requires about 25% of the total bodies cholesterol cholesterol
My doctor also recommended I take statins fûr to my LDL. I am slim fit and 67 yo. I ignored his recommendation.
I'm surprised you didnt mention the lean mass hyper responder study that has started releasing data
Studies show us high protein diet leads to lower lifespan unless you take cholesterol at the same time.
Cholesterol is a rate limiter of protein metabolism and muscle production.
We've known this for ten years.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you for this video, Mike.
Maybe you'll explain it later in the video... how does ApoA to B ratio fit into this picture? How do we combine Apo with the cholesterol levels?
I am 55 yo, 60 kg, on carnivorous diet and my triglycerides came at 63, HDL 57 and LDL 220. I m pretty sure tomorrow my doctor will prescribe statins. I d rather change diet habits to keto diet and increase exercise instead. Any opinions? Thanx in advance.
Truly stand your ground and live free of the hijacked science from the 50s.
I am a 59 year young male. I have a 1,200 CAC score. I also have heart disease. Wearing a heart monitor for thirty days. I am also recovering from a brain stem stroke. Changing cardiologists to get another CAC score, angiogram or heart cath. Considering a statin for anti-inflammatory benefits, at least until I get the tests.
I just did labs after eating carnivore for 2 months. Total cholesterol was 406, up from 262. Triglycerides 91, down from 101. HDL 63, up from 59. LDL 325, up from 183. Vldl 18, down from 20. My trig/hdl ratio is 1.44, down from 1.7 on prior labs. I’m feeling a bit stressed with my high cholesterol as it seems higher than the average posters on carnivore channels. Additional info-I’m 50, and active (lift weights 2X or 3x a week and play pickleball at a 5.0+ level 5 or 6x a week). My body fat is 17%, muscle mass 29 lbs, and body mass index 25.2. I’m good with anyone weighing in with an opinion? I appreciate any feedback to alleviate my concerns. Thank you.
Please also tell your viewers that epidemiology studies also show a U Shaped paradox for Obesity, Blood Pressure, and A1C. So we should all try to be fat, hypertensive and diabetic to live longer. OK sure.
Just had this discussion with my doctor. My LDL was 123 and he wanted to put me on a statin to get me below 100. I told him I understood the recommended protocol, but that I felt the understanding of LDL seemed uncertain to me and that I didn't want the statin. My HDL was normal range, and my triglycerides were very good, so he said he was okay with it.
Hi, I’m Filipino that living in U.K. my cholesterol is a bit high can’t remember how much and my GP keep telling me to take statin but I refused because I’m doing fasting for 2 years now and my diabetes is gone. Currently I am taking high blood pressure tablet because I’m suffering with Graves’ disease.
Good decision and im happy for you, intermittent fasting is one of the best things for the body.
@@moriderschowitz5020 thank you for the reply ❤️
It would be nice if you linked the studies in the description. I would often like to show them to some misinformed friends.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9300868/pdf/fcvm-09-903481.pdf
And it’s definitely worth finding a functional medicine doctor. You do pay more but they’re so much better than a conventional medicine doctor. I do take 500 mg of niacin at night.
I have had very high LDL levels for decades, tried a statin way back and could not tolerate it, thankfully and then get educated. I got a decent life insurace police at age 68 - the insurance companies know better than anyone what groups of people are going to die when. If they get it wrong they go out of business. My wife has had "perfect" cholesterol levels and didnt get a policy. I bike 100 miles per week and am enjoying life.
Cholesterol is not the issue and there is no risk to your health regarding cholesterol. The issue is you consuming plants, fruits, and seed oils that oxidizing the lipoproteins. If you reader wants to optimize your health go outside get sun, grounding and start eating meat and the associated fats and don't combine it with sugars or fiber and add Cerule stamcelles supplement and there you go. Cheers!
Magic, this video came at the right time. I'm 64, my last blood test is done, in relation to a regular ordinary health check for older people and no surprise, my doctor is calling me to tell me, my Cholesterol is too high. I rejected statins in the first place, but I'm not sure, I do it right. My diet has changed, less meat, more plant based food and less butter more olive oil and avocado. Just yesterday seen Dr. Sten Ekbergs video where he made a self test, 100 tablespoon Olive oil in ten days. In a result, he had a significant increase in Cholesterol. So, it seems my diet needs to be adjusted. I take a lot of olive oil, depends on suggestion of some doctor, who says, it is healthy even in high dose. Thanks a million.✌
Zero oil, even olive oil, avocados are fine. Can’t get rid of all fat when eating animal products.
Extra virgin olive oil is 14% saturated fat. It's only good as a substitute for butter and other foods higher in saturated fat. I added olive oil to my diet to get extra calories to gain weight last year. My LDL went from 90s to 113. I got rid of olive oil and my LDL went back down to 93. This was the 2nd time this happened.
Olive oil is often touted for its polyphenols. Those can be found in fruits and veggies.
@@jakubchrobry3701 I was well when eat butter and less olive oil.
@@IPMan-me6lo In the short-term, yes. Good luck with doing that for the long term. High LDL has no symptoms. The evidence of high LDL causing atherosclerosis is strong, especially the Mendelian randomization studies. If you want believe you know more than the experts and take that risk, that's on you (and the taxpayers who will have to pay for your medical care).
@@jakubchrobry3701 Sorry? I eat all my life butter, never margarine or any other processed fat and never ever had any problem with high cholesterol. Just mid 2022-2023 when switched to olive oil and less butter, my cholesterol raised and my GP running around with the bell to announce he will put me on statins.
Idk if this is true but YEARS ago i read that eating a grapefruit first thing in the morning helped people manage their bad cholesterol better than any drug without the side effects 🤷 idk
My grandpa ate a grapefruit half every day of his life. He died just short of 106.
@@bkf8166 very interesting
Regarding stones, try dramatically dropping your oxalate intake - look into Sally K. Norton's work on this.
It may even be caused by cutting them out. I had flare-ups for a couple of years after going carnivore. All my arthritis and other issues cleared up though, so it was well worth dealing with.
I would recommend they take mineral citrates during the day with plenty of water and supplement a high dose of inositol IP-6 at night.
This video came at perfect timing. Received bloodwork back today and my cholesterol was high.
Look up the Korean Cholesterol Mortality Study published in 2019. Over 12 million subjects.
Between 200 and 240 live the longest.
Over 200 barely any increase in death until 300. Still not impressive.
Under 200 and deaths for all causes increases hard and fast. Includes suicide and violence.
Mine was too, 264, and my dr wants to put me on a statin, I said no way, told me to eat meat only twice a month. LDL was 167, HDL, 77, Triglycerides 85.
I think more and more people are understanding that it's the oxidized dense LDL (remnant cholesterol) that's the issue, and not *all* LDL. I'm surprised to see these studies studying *all* cholesterol.
It usually takes about 20 years for the medical profession to accept that they were wrong......tobacco, low fat/ high carb diet, eating eggs, telling older people not to do high intensity exercise and a long list of etcs.......
They (medical community) will sometimes (when the financial rewards dry up) stop pushing their nonsense and lies when enough of the population wakes up.
When are you going to do a video on the recent ldl and Lmhr study?
I’ve always had high cholesterol and have been advised to go on statins and I’ve always refused although I do have high ApoB and Lp(a). I started taking Niacin (B3) 100mg which has helped me lower them slowly, I’m in my 70s. What are you thoughts please.
Are lipoproteins the cause of atherosclerosis? Yes, but only if the following two criteria are concurrently satiaifed: 1. They are oxidized and 2. They reside in the endothelium. Optimizing for the reduction of lipoproteins in circulation pales in comparison to the results achievable by optimizing for confereing said lipoproteins with protection from oxidation. The highest leverage ways to prevent lipoprotein oxidation are to 1. Avoid industrial "vegetable" oils like the plague 2. Refrain from cigarette smoking 3. Increase your ratio of saturated to polyunsaturated fat intake and crucially, 4. Augment your antioxidant status (vitamin E, C, wild blueberries, 100% pomegranate juice, etc). If you follow these 4 action steps and, for example, your LDL levels happen to increase, keep pressing forward, because there is not a single lipoprotein in its native form in the human body that will result in plaque development, irrespective of the amount in circulation.
Well said! 👏👏👏
Ok so don’t smoke, don’t use oils, eat more saturated fat and not polyunsaturated fats and increase your antioxidants from eating fruit.
Is this what you’re saying?
Also what about increasing your nitric oxide?
@@Primetime_dads Yes to all of the above. Also, this often gets overlooked, but having excessive ferritin (stored iron) is pro oxidative as well, so it's prudent for men to periodically donate blood if, for example, their ferritin exceeds 250. Also, the plant-based crowd will point out the fact that there are cases of atherosclerosis in the Maasai people, but it has nothing to do with their saturated fat intake, but rather, the iron in the blood they drink. Also, this is absolutely pivotal: avoid ghee like the plague. Unfortunately nobody in the animal-based or keto/carnivore community is discussing this very disconcerting matter, which is that ghee is actually directly atherogenic because of its' oxysterol content. Ghee is clarified butter, and it's the clarification process that results in this. Just stick to butter, beef tallow or coconut oil for cooking.
@@JasonActualization hahah damn ok, I literally been using ghee for a few weeks, ran out of tallow hahah
Ok cool man thanks!!!!
@@JasonActualization so you would say a diet of red meat and fruits is the best diet: because that’s what I eat!!!!
I’ve just come from being plant based for almost 9 years, been on an animal based diet for 3 months now…. I just can’t do low carb man, it’s just not in me.
It’s either gonna be white rice or damn fruit, I just feel like I thrive off that
The doctors' willingness not to question the institutions that gave them the higherarchy they paid for in conjunction with their belief that people who aren't doctors can't know things too is absolutely their fault.
The solution to drs. not doing the tests is simple: you tell them to do it, that it's your health, you want it done, and the dr. is there for you, not the other way around.
Can you do a video about if you have high cholesterol (hdl, ldl) because you eat a whole food animal based diet but you have high inflammation markers like ox ldl and lp-pla2, what can be the causes and how to lower inflammation other than diet? because my diet is already good.
Avocado, coconut oils and other health plant fats can falsely elevate LDLs
The vegan docs argue that people that are seriously ill often lose a lot of weight and can’t eat essentially lowering their cholesterol. So this distorts these types of findings. I just started watching the video so I will be listening to see if this is adjusted for.
My doctor said I had elevated ldl suggested taking a stat I said no I don't want it I'm fine he was shocked
Tried link for Cheat Sheet and input name and email. Checked inbox and spam and unable to locate your email with link. Not sure what the problem is.
My friend had at a CAC done at age 48. Scored over 200. Ldl was around 120. He was put on a low fat diet and of course, the statin. Kept eating breads, pastas, and lots of fruit. ldl dropped to 40. 2.5 years later, his new CAC score is well over 400. These numbers show a massive increase in calcium development rate. I see two possible reasons, neither of which is good for lipid theory. 1. Lowering the ldl and his fat intake had no good effect and actually increased his rate of plaque development. 2. The statin increased the rate of calcium deposit. If 1 is true, lipid theory is toast, at least for him. Probably more folks as well. If 2 is true, then the increased calcium provides an alternative mechanism for ALL STATIN SUCCESS DATA that has nothing to do with lowering ldl and that undermines every single study ever done where statins improved heart comes and lowering ldl was cited as the reason.
I took Pravastatin for a few days… I’m a diabetic. The day after I started taking it, I began to have severe vertigo. It continued… a few days after that, I lost my father. I was just devastated. I will never forget those days. Anyway, I told my endocrinologist that I will stop the statin and he was okay with it. He told me to buy flax seeds whole and grind them myself and take a tsp with every meal. So even they know it’s not necessary to take statins! And they still prescribe them. Why? Because big pharma! 😡😡
My mother was told she had high cholesterol in her 50's and continued to be treated for such until her death from dementia aged 93. 3 years before her death i gound out her cholesterol was very very low, the GP thought it was ok, but I am sure it contributed to her dementia and death.
So, I am a resident physician and I do primary care as part of my training, and I get that we (doctors) are not perfect, but I will say, I feel like this channel unfairly condemns us, and I see it in the comments as well, everyone looking for a reason to mistrust doctors. Listen, you are in charge of your life, and it is fair to question doctors and do your own research, but I will say the breakdown of studies on this podcast isn't the most robust even if it is better than other podcasts I've seen. All that to say, the guidelines are not to simply start a statin on anyone who has high lipids. It is made in the context of metabolic disease. I have never started a patient on a statin for isolated hyperlipidemia. It is always in the context of metabolic syndrome (high BP, overweight or obesity, diabetes). In cardiac health journals it is well established that patients who fall into a high risk for cardiometabolic disease have a reduced mortality with dropping lipid levels and being on statin. The life saving measure may be from lower lipids, but it may also be from anti-inflammatory as well as cardiac plaque stabilizing effects.
Mike, I know you hedge that you aren't giving medical advice, and I think you are doing your audience a service about encouraging working out and getting into shape. This is not a study that could be generalized to the US or I assume most of your audience. The Swedish society has different food sources (less processed), different lifestyles (much more active), happier (meaning less stressed and less depressed), a more homogenous society, and lower rates of diabetes and metabolic syndrome. All this study tells me is that doctors in Sweden need to be careful lowering lipid levels to fit with where most of the data is collected and published which is with sick, overweight, less homogenous Western societies.
Don’t take it personally. We aren’t looking for reasons to mistrust doctors. Most of us have had doctors cause us to mistrust them. Sounds like you are a good doctor. They exist. Thankfully, I have found one. But the reality is that many are just shills for pharma and follow a flow chart to prescribe a medicine.
Every doctor on Earth claimed that vaccines would stop Covid based on politics or did you forget?
It is hardly a paradox. High Cholesterol is not linked with early death, inflammation is. It was a lie all along.
My HDL is 96. Some pol in TH-cam said high hdl also not good. What is your thought?;
Where is the link to the 1 and only study that you base this video in? I can't find it.
70 yo female ketovore for five years or so. LDL is 300 all other markers are very good.
My dr is losing her mind and pushing for drugs. I’m asking for more advanced testing etc it’s a difficult place to be 😢
Can you post a link to the research?
Is cardio exercise going to be better for heart health in general compare to strength training? How much weighting should one put between the two types of exercises.
I have tried to get your bloodwork sheet several times but I never get the confirmation email. I have also sent you an email asking for help with no reply.
What if you have high hdl, high ldl, low triglycerides, low lp(a) and feel good. But you have high oxidized ldl and high Lp-PLA2? Is that a problem or is it just someone to be expected when you have high cholesterol by relation?
Work out why you ldl is getting oxidised, coz that is definitely an issue... Start taking 10-20g vit c spread throughout the day, but watch your bowl tolerance, to start combating it while you find the cause.
Peter Attia disagrees… can you share this study with him…
MY NEIGHBOUR WEIGHS 170 POUNDS, SOME HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND A CHOLESTEROL OF 987 . HE IS A HIGH ANIMALS BASE DIET. HE WAS HOSPITALIZED AND PLACED ON STATIN DRUGS AND DIET OF SORTS
I am missing something here.
Mike,
I have a friend who had a heart attack about 4 years ago. Her cholesterol numbers and her CRP were great which led me to wonder, why did she have a heart attack? So I started researching. I came across a study, sorry, but I can’t remember the name. The study was investigating why people with cholesterol in the “normal ranges,” according to their accepted ranges, were still having heart attacks. Do you know what their conclusion was? They decided after reviewing their data THAT THE CURRENT ACCEPTED RANGES USED NEEDED TO BE LOWERED!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
So once again, it’s so clear that doctors and researchers are so brainwashed and corrupted that we have to question everything we hear. All I could think of was if they lower the ranges again, we are just going to have more people wandering the streets and not knowing how to function anymore BECAUSE WE NEED CHOLESTEROL FOR OUR BRAINS!
It's worth noting that some heart attacks are electrical/neurological and no plaque is required to have one. Valve and chamber malformations can lead to complications as well.
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Thanks 🙏 I like to know more about this.
All detractors are going to claim "reverse causality", however, there is actually no evidence for reverse causality, and "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
Wow thanks for this
There are no paradoxes in healthcare, just things we don't understand yet.
It's truthful i believe, thank you
Because I already have a neurological disorder known as epilepsy I will never allow my doctor to force me to take the statin he prescribed especially when my triglycerides were as low as 0.7mmol.
Sitting here, drinking my coffee with cream…
Where is the link to the study?
MY APO B IS 155 AND REMNANT IS 23. ALL MY PARTICLE NUMBERS ARE WAY OUT OF RANGE. I HAVE HAD A CAC TEST TWICE AND IT CAME BACK ZERO BOTH TIMES. HAVE TOLD MY DOCTOR I WILL NOT TAKE STATINS. I AM BEGINNING TO TAKE RED YEAST RICE AND CINNAMON AND I TAKE BERBERINE. WITH MY APO B AND ALL OTHER OUT OF RANGE NUMBERS, SHOULD I CONSIDER STATINS?
This is old news to carnivores😁
Here's a ChatGPT summary:
- Max and the host discuss the U-shaped association between elevated cholesterol levels and reduced all-cause and cardiovascular mortality.
- They reference a study titled "U-shaped relationship with non-HDL cholesterol with all cause and cardiovascular mortality in men without statin therapy."
- The host shares an image to illustrate the association and addresses why cholesterol is still a relevant topic.
- Many people who improve their health by reducing carbohydrate and processed food intake see an increase in LDL cholesterol, which can concern healthcare practitioners.
- The host aims to share evidence with clients, noting that it takes time for primary health professionals to implement new findings from peer-reviewed academic medical literature.
- High non-HDL cholesterol levels are protective against all-cause mortality, severe COVID-19, and cardiovascular disease in individuals over 60, known as the cholesterol paradox.
- The host mentions a Stanford University study comparing vegan and omnivorous diets and their effects on LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, and HDL levels.
- The host plans to do a deep breakdown of the Stanford study and discusses the cholesterol paradox, citing studies that show high LDL cholesterol is protective in older individuals.
- High LDL cholesterol is associated with lower mortality in people over 60 and is protective against dementia and Alzheimer's disease.
- The host reviews a chart from a study showing survival probability in relation to non-HDL cholesterol levels, indicating that higher levels are associated with higher survival probability.
- The Apolipoprotein Mortality Risk (AMORIS) cohort study is discussed, showing that high cholesterol is protective and associated with greater odds of becoming a centenarian.
- The host recommends the myoscience berberine fasting accelerator as a natural way to support fasting and curb appetite.
- Main message: Recent studies suggest a U-shaped association between cholesterol levels and mortality, with high non-HDL cholesterol levels being protective in older individuals, challenging the traditional view that lower cholesterol is always better.
Chat GPT also says men can get pregnant. Why would you trust that?😂😂 lol
@@elinino5275 the nature of the prompt for these summaries is such that I provide the entire transcript of the video and ask it to create a summary based on the given text. That reduces the risk of hallucinations to a minimum, as it will not write what it thinks it knows, but what I actually sees in the given context.
@mbrochh82 doesn't matter, chatgpt is programed by humans. It's not some magic know it all wizard. If it were it wouldn't respond by saying a man can get pregnant. That absurd at the history levels and an insult to real intellect
A Layman's Understanding: Cholesterol The Truth?
Did you know the Brain signals the Liver each day to create a certain amount of Cholesterol and the Liver also stores about 5,000 Cholesterol Units for emergency repairs.
Any leftover Cholesterol at the end of the day is taken back into the Liver to be stored.
Cholesterol is a precursor for making over 200 Hormones and Hormone-like substances to keep our bodies healthy.
People with High Cholesterol live longer than people with Low Cholesterol.
Cholesterol is the First Thing we need to not block.
There is no such thing as Bad Cholesterol.
In fact, Cholesterol is a Natural Healing Substance of the body.
Cholesterol is your friend and helper.
The so-called Cholesterol Test does not actually measure Cholesterol but instead the Test measures a B Protein having nothing to do with Cholesterol.
Cholesterol is the First Thing we need to create new Cells.
If you take medication to prevent Cholesterol you are preventing yourself from being healthy.
High LDL Cholesterol = Lower Risk of Death: NEW 22 Year Study
th-cam.com/video/4nm-xIq7I2Q/w-d-xo.html
Disclaimer: This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.
Long time subscriber, love your videos, BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO QUITE MESSING WITH YOUR MIC. it is very distracting almost un-watchable for me. PLEASE get a mic stand that does not have to be continually adjusted.
Love Dave J
Just listen instead of watching then.
Good. I’m getting into “living foods” with good milk. Fun
My problem is I have had a heart attack and inclusions from plaque to arteries in my heart. So having a high ldl 210 is driving my cardiologist crazy even though I never felt better after being on a carnival diet and quit all my statins
It's not a paradox. It's reverse causation. For 1, some cancers lower ldl, meaning one could think having higher ldl is protective.
Endothelium. If you have atherosclerosis. Read "preventing and reversing heart disease" by Dr. Esselstyn.
70 yr old, IF daily with eating window 4pm - 9pm, high protein with some veggies and limited fruit. High LDL over 300 - I think because measured during fasting phase and mostly keto metabolism. Dr wants me on statins but every other test is fine so I refuse.
In the 1970's an LDL of 300 was the acceptable standard. Today the standard is 200. This should tell you everything you need to know about the organizations that sell pharmaceuticals.
“As a non-physician”….yeah, no crap. I’ll choose to get my info from practicing physicians that actually see patients like Peter Attia and Thomas Dayspring.
It is no longer a paradox if it happens all the time😂
What kind of cholesterol? There's a couple.
The authors conclusion of this study: Conclusion
From a population-based cohort study base on the national representative database, our study demonstrated that non-HDL-C was U-shaped and related to all-cause and cardiovascular mortality among men without statin therapy. The more clear risk stratification of non-HDL-C and comprehensive strategic management to deal with dyslipidemia deserves further investigation for confirmation. Notice the last sentence.
_Every_ study ever published contains a _"deserves further investigation"_ clause toward the end.
How about if one has ldl particles at over 1600 with normal apo, normal triglycerides and HDL.
Dr. Peter Attia may disagree ❤
Yes how hard do you think it is for at doctors to admit that they have lied for 50 years! For Jobs, money and control. Taking advange of lesser intelligent people, that's about 85% of the worlds population. How the f..can a ensyme who the body have being finetuning for 100' thousends of years be the bad one! It's so stupid to even considerd it.
“May disagree” or “Does disagree”. Do you have a link so we can get full information?
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"Personalized medicine" is a euphemism for gene therapy, that is, transfection. It is not simply more labs.
when I tried to discuss about Apo B and small dense LDL , my doctor just ignored me. I took statin and it really can help to lower my LDL. My doctor satisfied with my blood test numbers but to myself, I did not feel better rather I feel weaker, my legs became weaker and weaker not even to take a long walk, my eyesight got blurred images. I tried to discuss these with my doctor but he just simply ignored me. My doctor not seemed to believe me and I felt helpless and disappointed.
My own personal approach? If I don't understand the care regime, or the MD can't explain the WHY, I don't do it. You are the best judge, in partnership with your doctor, to judge if care is working.
Ditch this doctor. He's hurting you.
Not sure why you keep saying there's nuance. Whether you cholesterol is high, Apob is high, remnant cholesterol is high or all low, it's all dependent on your metabolic health. If your metabolically sick it will mess with cholesterol no matter how high or low.
Also the higher cholesterol was not the only factor…other levels were decreased in the centenarians. Alone the cholesterol may not be the most important factor in this cohort.
As a 70 year old in perfect health going to 100 myself following this ------> Diet, Exercise, Sleep, Socializing, Learning New Things, Believe in Yourself, Turn Off the Effing TV