Duncan was correct though. And he owns gyms and employs 300 personal trainers who will say the same .... The young man's argument about Ab stretchers equipment had been well prepared to exactly counter Duncan's point and he admitted to it being a scam. There is NO NEED to have an Ab exercising machine to exercise your abs ....
His ego is so fragile that he had to get the last word in at the end about being out. Yeah, I don't think this guy would have taken investment from you even if you'd have done a complete turnaround.
Damn, this guy was very impressive. Assertive but polite. You see others defend their product and all it amounts to is talking over the dragons who've already lost interest. This guy really dressed them down in a logical way while remaining professional. Genuinely the best pitcher I've seen just in terms of handling the criticism and addressing it well.
How can you say that Duncan wasn't right when no one invested, and the product didn't do well for over 10 years? Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I love Duncan, he's one of my favourite dragons for sure, but in this episode? He got schooled. The guy pitching did a superb job, stood on his own two feet and held his own. Respect.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Wow. It’s the First time that I’ve actually liked something Doug Richards has said or done, telling Duncan to STFU. That was actually painful and cringeworthy listening to Duncan on this one. That bloke, was obviously an academic and an intellectual and the way he articulates and holds his own without being flustered, without condescending in the slightest, was a very impressive display
The product looks like a scam actually (not enough evidence to work for anything), and Duncan didn't want to let the guy get away with promoting something that has not enough evidence of efficacy, while asking for £100,000 for a small percentage of a Company that doesn't have any sales... Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan telling a PhD in his field that they're talking rubbish??!! Wow, a millionaires audacity! Well done to him for telling him off politely and intelligently.
Duncan telling the truth to someone selling something. ‘Argument from authority’ only works if you’re factually correct in the field you are educated in.
Everyone has self respect, right wrong expert PhD no degree, doesnt matter - Duncan woudnt dare unless he was encouraged by producers -- thats what they did in Dragons den then - compare it with 2021 and see the difference
Actually looking into this, I believe Duncan was 100% correct. It has been many years now, I don't see elite athletes using this or the big companies buying it. Seems like a load of rubbish. The difference between someone in the classroom spending their life convincing themselves that a circle can be a square....and the real world.
What an utterly depressing take lmao. "BUT HE HAS A PHD!" Fml. That the PHD bloke was deluded, wrong and still broke, doesn't matter because over credentialised thickos online bow to the letters after names. Deary me lmao.
Latest accounts show that the company (Progressive Sports Technologies) has half a mill. in the bank. He's also become Associate Pro Vice-Chancellor at Loughborough University. Not bad for someone that Duncan thought was full of hot air.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620 The creator didn't need to invest his time 100%, he puts a team in place etc and oversees that. Academics do that, I know because I've been part of 1 of 3 different teams a Prof was overseeing on three different applications (not apps). It is a bit disingenuous to say "....not even the creator wanted to invest his time...." and if you think it is courageous to be a rude horrible disrespectful scumbg like Duncan was in this case, then that says a lot about you that isn't good.
Great pitch and effective defense of the invention. I'm honestly surprised he didn't mentioned or thought of therapeutic use of his invention, there's huge population of people that could benefit from this clinically.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
10:58 Great question; Even though, Duncan was technically wrong, his answer 11:11 shows a very valid angle and reason for his behavior… regardless if you agree or not with that point of view.
It is nice to see Duncan get a taste of this own medicine for a change 😂. I like it when people on dragons den defend themselves if they know what they are talking about. I feel sometimes the dragons get a bit big for there boots.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@gerardford9706 I had to post this to everyone that was "deceived" by the guy's sweet talk and fancy words. Many people are scammed every day by people using the same tactics used by this guy. None of the Dragons invested because it was a bad product, bad business (non-existing actually) and bad founder.
So basically this "Respivest" is no different to wearing a vest which is 3 times too small for you; well I'm sure I've already got a few of those somewhere. But I can't see the benefit of wearing a vest that restricts your breathing (sounds unhealthy, even dangerous).
When dealing with people, especially when you are trying to attract an investment from them, avoid unnecessary arguments and contradicting your potential investor, yes, you may 'win' the debate by displaying your superior knowedge and credentials and bla bla bla, but you sure won't be getting their investment.
I think the interesting thing about Peter's question is that there's also a mirror concern the dragons have about this debate. Peter basically wanted to hear that he was going to focus on this, concentrate on it and devote his all to it until Peter received his return. This guy provided an answer that basically was meant to respond to another question altogether. That question being: "Say you walk out of here tomorrow and get struck by lightning, what happens to the company?" Very often entrepreneurs come on who are brilliant, but the dragon has a fear that: "This whole business is you, and I can't mass produce you. If something happens to you, this idea is dead in the water. So I wish you all the best, but I can't get involved." His answer basically was one prepared for that question. He essentially said: "No matter what happens to me, this product can continue to thrive and succeed with the right team behind it. I'm not indispensable to the product. I don't need to be personally involved and physically present at every stage to keep this going forward. With the right team in place, this product will do well." It's the kind of answer you can give to reassure an investor that 'if something happens to me, your money is still safe, invested in a great product that is in the right hands of a solid team moving it forward." But I feel like the more emotionally gripping answer would have been: "If you invest in me, I'll not rest until you get your return." and because that wasn't his first instinct answer, Peter opted not to invest.
Not sure, but it seems like there’s something called respibelt, which has been somewhat successful! Basically it’s the same, but not sure he had a patent on it…
Lol love Duncan. "why did you question his expertise?" "Because it's a load of sh***! It doesn't work. If it did, Reebok and Nike would have bought it."
Exactly! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I thought it was odd that he said we all breath in all the time, what about breathing out , but on a serious note valuing his company at one million is crazy . Especially when he works in a university.
I ain't never seen a bodybuilder flexing his breathing muscles just like I've never heard anyone say "my breathing muscles are too weak to breath this air", but gimmicky gimmicks gonna gimmick I guess.....
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan was actually right here, looks like the Biologist guy wanted to behave like a Karen and Duncan didn't want to continue with the argument. Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
That is absolutely the best episode ever! Thank you for standing up for your knowledge and schooled Duncan (never liked him). Even Peter had to defeat! I often wondered if I'd had to chose between Peter and other dragons. would I chose Peter who is always greedy and very persuasive about his contacts and business success - but aren't all of the dragons just at successful?
How can you say that Duncan wasn't right when no one invested, and the product didn't do well for over 10 years? Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
The fact that the product doesn't currently exist doesn't necessarily mean that the principle behind it is scientifically incorrect. There are plenty of other explanations. The diaphragm is a muscle like any other; of course it can be exercised and strengthened.
@@hughm1383 Pitching for £100,000 for a small percentage of a business that has £0 sales, and the product doesn't have enough evidence of efficacy, sounds like a very bad deal to me. Some people would even call this a scam (remember not enough evidence of efficacy, while asking for money for it..).
Duncan was ultimately correct. Not only did this doctor's business fail, but the product and similar ones in the market aren't that successful nor used by professional athletes.
Dragon: Do you have intrinsic data? Guy: We have some intrinsic data Duncan: the product is rubbish Guy: no it’s not I have a phd and “some intrinsic data”. 😂😂😂
while duncan made a very poor argument, he was right. all these "ab vests" and stuff are people looking for a shortcut, if you did general cardio you would improve your "breathing muscles" far more However, for people that can't do that due to disability, I could see this.
He slipped up when he said there's a market "for people who believe it will work"...he knows it doesn't work...having a PhD doesn't conder ethics or honesty... he's proof of that.
I doubt that! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I think the interesting thing about Peter's question is that there's also a mirror concern the dragons have about this debate. Peter basically wanted to hear that he was going to focus on this, concentrate on it and devote his all to it until Peter received his return. This guy provided an answer that basically was meant to respond to another question altogether. That question being: "Say you walk out of here tomorrow and get struck by lightning, what happens to the company?" Very often entrepreneurs come on who are brilliant, but the dragon has a fear that: "This whole business is you, and I can't mass produce you. If something happens to you, this idea is dead in the water. So I wish you all the best, but I can't get involved." His answer basically was one prepared for that question. He essentially said: "No matter what happens to me, this product can continue to thrive and succeed with the right team behind it. I'm not indispensable to the product. I don't need to be personally involved and physically present at every stage to keep this going forward. With the right team in place, this product will do well." It's the kind of answer you can give to reassure an investor that 'if something happens to me, your money is still safe, invested in a great product that is in the right hands of a solid team moving it forward." But I feel like the more emotionally gripping answer would have been: "If you invest in me, I'll not rest until you get your return." and because that wasn't his first instinct answer, Peter opted not to invest.
@@Jessica7318 yea many of his answers felt over prepared and therefore he slipped at the end there and gave a slightly different answer your totally right. Peter saying ‘none of us can challenge you intellectually’ should have calmed down this whole rant about how he goes to Loughborough uni which in this video seemed a bit pompous but we don’t get the full 3-4 hour interview so we will never know
Peter too longer to understand that the product was ineffective (not enough evidence of efficacy), and that the Biologist researcher was just there to promote an ineffective product that Nike didn't want to back up. The creator didn't want to commit to it also, and only Duncan pointed out that the product doesn't work. The researcher would commit 100% of his time to an effective product, but even he didn't believe enough to commit to launching the product. Rule number 1 in investment, don't lose your money to scams or products that don't have enough evidence of efficacy. Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan was right, pointless product. Anyone in sports can see that. Just use an O2 trainer. Or for average people just do yoga or Pilates where they focus on breathing.
Dragons' Den is always live, smart move. The channels shows up in the top of the subscriptions and the video listings draw more attention with the red live labels.
When you look back at this episode you will probably change your mind. Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Impressive intelligent man, admire him in many ways, but missing business acumen and personal skills which illustrates why he’s an academic and not an entrepreneur
This entrepreneur got too excited by the game and argued too much. He accidentally argued his way out of a deal. He probably would have got Peter's investment had he not been so combative.
If he's a doctor, maybe he shouldn't talk about a "breathing muscle" that doesn't exist. What's that supposed to be? The intercostals? The diaphragm? If you belly breathe, which you should, the ribcage doesn't really expand anyway.
Exactly! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
That’s not how breathing works! The main breathing muscle is the diaphragm, and it expands downwards. It’s the main working muscle. That’s why it’s the one that gets tired and hurts. The other muscles are much less powerful and significant. Squeezing the chest is not going to do much of what they’re claiming. Lame and scammy.
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"It's an informed opinion, but it's not an expert opinion." I'm going to use that in every argument for the rest of my life.
What happens when you get into an argument with an expert.
@@Sam-qh1sh I know better than to argue with an expert.
6:41
Never seen Duncan dressed down like that…fair play.
Duncan was correct though. And he owns gyms and employs 300 personal trainers who will say the same ....
The young man's argument about Ab stretchers equipment had been well prepared to exactly counter Duncan's point and he admitted to it being a scam.
There is NO NEED to have an Ab exercising machine to exercise your abs ....
Yeah it's a thing of beauty
I dunno, I’ve seen Duncan wearing a business suit all the time 🤔
@@bash547 Damn Fashionista's. They're everywhere.
His ego is so fragile that he had to get the last word in at the end about being out. Yeah, I don't think this guy would have taken investment from you even if you'd have done a complete turnaround.
Damn, this guy was very impressive. Assertive but polite. You see others defend their product and all it amounts to is talking over the dragons who've already lost interest. This guy really dressed them down in a logical way while remaining professional. Genuinely the best pitcher I've seen just in terms of handling the criticism and addressing it well.
He is a doctor at a leading university. He is smart
the guy can handle himself & was positively licking his lips to rip into Duncan(or anyone else).
I think the dragons were quite intimidated by him.
Condescending and deluded I’d say.
How can you say that Duncan wasn't right when no one invested, and the product didn't do well for over 10 years?
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I love Duncan, he's one of my favourite dragons for sure, but in this episode? He got schooled. The guy pitching did a superb job, stood on his own two feet and held his own. Respect.
💯💯
Duncan is clueless most of the time
He's your favorite? 😂
@@someoneanyone884 no chance 😂
I agree. I have a crush on the Dunk but yeah, he got well schooled.
Bannatyne's ego struggled with the fact it got destroyed.
Holy crap this is beyond impressive. The guy was so brilliant with his answers. One of the best pitches ever.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Wow. It’s the First time that I’ve actually liked something Doug Richards has said or done, telling Duncan to STFU. That was actually painful and cringeworthy listening to Duncan on this one. That bloke, was obviously an academic and an intellectual and the way he articulates and holds his own without being flustered, without condescending in the slightest, was a very impressive display
The product looks like a scam actually (not enough evidence to work for anything), and Duncan didn't want to let the guy get away with promoting something that has not enough evidence of efficacy, while asking for £100,000 for a small percentage of a Company that doesn't have any sales...
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Duncan telling a PhD in his field that they're talking rubbish??!! Wow, a millionaires audacity! Well done to him for telling him off politely and intelligently.
Duncan telling the truth to someone selling something. ‘Argument from authority’ only works if you’re factually correct in the field you are educated in.
Everyone has self respect, right wrong expert PhD no degree, doesnt matter -
Duncan woudnt dare unless he was encouraged by producers --
thats what they did in Dragons den then - compare it with 2021 and see the difference
Duncan calling a bs product for the bs it was and has since proved to be lmfao
Actually looking into this, I believe Duncan was 100% correct. It has been many years now, I don't see elite athletes using this or the big companies buying it. Seems like a load of rubbish. The difference between someone in the classroom spending their life convincing themselves that a circle can be a square....and the real world.
What an utterly depressing take lmao. "BUT HE HAS A PHD!" Fml. That the PHD bloke was deluded, wrong and still broke, doesn't matter because over credentialised thickos online bow to the letters after names. Deary me lmao.
Though he said recipe vest. Expected him to pull out a chicken or something.
Lmfao!
Latest accounts show that the company (Progressive Sports Technologies) has half a mill. in the bank. He's also become Associate Pro Vice-Chancellor at Loughborough University. Not bad for someone that Duncan thought was full of hot air.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
That’s terrible given how long it’s been in business now - guess it’s not a great product!
Love how Peter came in and came to Mike's defence.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620 The creator didn't need to invest his time 100%, he puts a team in place etc and oversees that. Academics do that, I know because I've been part of 1 of 3 different teams a Prof was overseeing on three different applications (not apps). It is a bit disingenuous to say "....not even the creator wanted to invest his time...." and if you think it is courageous to be a rude horrible disrespectful scumbg like Duncan was in this case, then that says a lot about you that isn't good.
@@googleuser3620stop spamming the same comment
Precisely what I thought!
Great pitch and effective defense of the invention. I'm honestly surprised he didn't mentioned or thought of therapeutic use of his invention, there's huge population of people that could benefit from this clinically.
I could be wrong, but I'm thinking a weightlifting belt would provide the same function with greater resistance.
I think he did mention its therapeutic use - elderly people with ephysema.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
You missed that part???? Play the video again.
@@Niall404 Not up high enough on your torso to accomplish what it's supposed to accomplish.
6:18~ "Before Doug comes in and gives you the money. . ."
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10:58 Great question; Even though, Duncan was technically wrong, his answer 11:11 shows a very valid angle and reason for his behavior… regardless if you agree or not with that point of view.
It is nice to see Duncan get a taste of this own medicine for a change 😂. I like it when people on dragons den defend themselves if they know what they are talking about. I feel sometimes the dragons get a bit big for there boots.
or maybe this guy was too big for his boots.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620 you really went under every comment and copy pasted this bs. Careful not to choke on Duncan's raisins
@@gerardford9706 I had to post this to everyone that was "deceived" by the guy's sweet talk and fancy words. Many people are scammed every day by people using the same tactics used by this guy. None of the Dragons invested because it was a bad product, bad business (non-existing actually) and bad founder.
@@gerardford9706 LMAO 😂
So basically this "Respivest" is no different to wearing a vest which is 3 times too small for you; well I'm sure I've already got a few of those somewhere. But I can't see the benefit of wearing a vest that restricts your breathing (sounds unhealthy, even dangerous).
“I’m an academic at Loughborough University”
“I’m out”
When dealing with people, especially when you are trying to attract an investment from them, avoid unnecessary arguments and contradicting your potential investor, yes, you may 'win' the debate by displaying your superior knowedge and credentials and bla bla bla, but you sure won't be getting their investment.
Duncan is very intuitive.
Only because in this case he’s seen endless types of these products through his fitness business.
Mr Barrow from Downton finally found a new direction in life.
I was thinking David Walliams!
little big headed,, hence no one including Brands did not take his product.
I'm with Duncan on this one. Also, he messed up severely when he told Peter he wasn't going to be 100% on the product
I know right, he would have had the whole investment
Should have said "and we can re-invest on the other ideas I am working on"
I think the interesting thing about Peter's question is that there's also a mirror concern the dragons have about this debate. Peter basically wanted to hear that he was going to focus on this, concentrate on it and devote his all to it until Peter received his return. This guy provided an answer that basically was meant to respond to another question altogether. That question being: "Say you walk out of here tomorrow and get struck by lightning, what happens to the company?"
Very often entrepreneurs come on who are brilliant, but the dragon has a fear that: "This whole business is you, and I can't mass produce you. If something happens to you, this idea is dead in the water. So I wish you all the best, but I can't get involved."
His answer basically was one prepared for that question. He essentially said: "No matter what happens to me, this product can continue to thrive and succeed with the right team behind it. I'm not indispensable to the product. I don't need to be personally involved and physically present at every stage to keep this going forward. With the right team in place, this product will do well." It's the kind of answer you can give to reassure an investor that 'if something happens to me, your money is still safe, invested in a great product that is in the right hands of a solid team moving it forward."
But I feel like the more emotionally gripping answer would have been: "If you invest in me, I'll not rest until you get your return." and because that wasn't his first instinct answer, Peter opted not to invest.
To give 100% to the product he would have to resign his university post. He is not going to do that.
To give 100% to the product he would have to resign his university post. He is not going to do that.
The Guy held his own against Duncan but he was not good enough or attractive enough to secure a deal.
Thanks mate, didn’t realise that until your comment
@@patmustard8795 Always please to help people like yourself...
dude this is cope
What happened to the product?
Did Doug ever invest in anything???
Not sure, but it seems like there’s something called respibelt, which has been somewhat successful! Basically it’s the same, but not sure he had a patent on it…
Lol love Duncan. "why did you question his expertise?"
"Because it's a load of sh***! It doesn't work. If it did, Reebok and Nike would have bought it."
Exactly! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Such a way with words.
Duncan had a good point at the end, if it was so good why didn’t Nike invest?
Duncan was absolutely raging after getting verbally obliterated. So much respect for this guy.
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I thought it was odd that he said we all breath in all the time, what about breathing out , but on a serious note valuing his company at one million is crazy . Especially when he works in a university.
Can’t remember the last time I heard him say ‘Hi. I’m Peter.’
Loved Duncan getting one final dig in right at the end 🤣🤣
I hate that smirk the entrepreneur gave when he responded to Duncan’s question. So childish.
I ain't never seen a bodybuilder flexing his breathing muscles just like I've never heard anyone say "my breathing muscles are too weak to breath this air", but gimmicky gimmicks gonna gimmick I guess.....
This product became the opro360 respibelt and sold for 10 years but now seems to have died down or is used only on the backend
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620ma'am are you gonna copy and paste that on every single comment on this video for the rest of your life? 😂
I just love that he put Duncan in his place, worth the time of watching an episode in it's own right!
Duncan was actually right here, looks like the Biologist guy wanted to behave like a Karen and Duncan didn't want to continue with the argument.
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
I thought Theo might ask about clinical trials or endorsement from a sports star.
The guy was so classy in defence of his product,fair play to him.
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Seeing this guy having a rant after Duncan's criticism was pure pleasure. Well delivered.
well delivered but completely wrong
@@prizma45 I have no clue I'm no expert on breathing.
@@5950ziel don't worry, prizma45 is 😉
That is absolutely the best episode ever! Thank you for standing up for your knowledge and schooled Duncan (never liked him). Even Peter had to defeat! I often wondered if I'd had to chose between Peter and other dragons. would I chose Peter who is always greedy and very persuasive about his contacts and business success - but aren't all of the dragons just at successful?
Duncan couldn’t wait for him to shut up!😂
I really like when people put Duncan in his place. I like Duncan from time to time but sometimes he acts like a know it all.
How can you say that Duncan wasn't right when no one invested, and the product didn't do well for over 10 years?
Duncan was right, everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
The fact that the product doesn't currently exist doesn't necessarily mean that the principle behind it is scientifically incorrect. There are plenty of other explanations. The diaphragm is a muscle like any other; of course it can be exercised and strengthened.
@@hughm1383 Pitching for £100,000 for a small percentage of a business that has £0 sales, and the product doesn't have enough evidence of efficacy, sounds like a very bad deal to me. Some people would even call this a scam (remember not enough evidence of efficacy, while asking for money for it..).
Duncan was ultimately correct. Not only did this doctor's business fail, but the product and similar ones in the market aren't that successful nor used by professional athletes.
Well said, Duncan needed to be told, he waffled so much crap.
Dragon: Do you have intrinsic data?
Guy: We have some intrinsic data
Duncan: the product is rubbish
Guy: no it’s not I have a phd and “some intrinsic data”.
😂😂😂
Duncan got it well 😂😂😅😅
Typical Phd....thinks he's too good for reality...he's not a businessman.
In the end.. Duncan was right 🤣😂
while duncan made a very poor argument, he was right.
all these "ab vests" and stuff are people looking for a shortcut, if you did general cardio you would improve your "breathing muscles" far more
However, for people that can't do that due to disability, I could see this.
He slipped up when he said there's a market "for people who believe it will work"...he knows it doesn't work...having a PhD doesn't conder ethics or honesty... he's proof of that.
This guy asked me if I 'wanted fries with that?' last week. The respi obviously didnt work out
Mike can breathe easy when his product gets the big tick from Nike 🍻
Dude, this was season 2, like more than 15 years ago. The product didn't take off
@@PabloHoney19 wooosh?
@@elitealex8985 Yep, whoosh!
That’s a bit “pedanwhoosh “ 😉🍻
I doubt that! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Man, these older episodes are spicy!
Peter gave him a lifeline I feel, tried to calm him down but he ultimately wasn’t able to relax toward the end. Shame.
I think the interesting thing about Peter's question is that there's also a mirror concern the dragons have about this debate. Peter basically wanted to hear that he was going to focus on this, concentrate on it and devote his all to it until Peter received his return. This guy provided an answer that basically was meant to respond to another question altogether. That question being: "Say you walk out of here tomorrow and get struck by lightning, what happens to the company?"
Very often entrepreneurs come on who are brilliant, but the dragon has a fear that: "This whole business is you, and I can't mass produce you. If something happens to you, this idea is dead in the water. So I wish you all the best, but I can't get involved."
His answer basically was one prepared for that question. He essentially said: "No matter what happens to me, this product can continue to thrive and succeed with the right team behind it. I'm not indispensable to the product. I don't need to be personally involved and physically present at every stage to keep this going forward. With the right team in place, this product will do well." It's the kind of answer you can give to reassure an investor that 'if something happens to me, your money is still safe, invested in a great product that is in the right hands of a solid team moving it forward."
But I feel like the more emotionally gripping answer would have been: "If you invest in me, I'll not rest until you get your return." and because that wasn't his first instinct answer, Peter opted not to invest.
@@Jessica7318 yea many of his answers felt over prepared and therefore he slipped at the end there and gave a slightly different answer your totally right.
Peter saying ‘none of us can challenge you intellectually’ should have calmed down this whole rant about how he goes to Loughborough uni which in this video seemed a bit pompous but we don’t get the full 3-4 hour interview so we will never know
Peter too longer to understand that the product was ineffective (not enough evidence of efficacy), and that the Biologist researcher was just there to promote an ineffective product that Nike didn't want to back up. The creator didn't want to commit to it also, and only Duncan pointed out that the product doesn't work.
The researcher would commit 100% of his time to an effective product, but even he didn't believe enough to commit to launching the product.
Rule number 1 in investment, don't lose your money to scams or products that don't have enough evidence of efficacy.
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
It is 'just' a tight vest?
the arrogance of duncan .. lol... he got owned
Duncan was right, pointless product. Anyone in sports can see that. Just use an O2 trainer. Or for average people just do yoga or Pilates where they focus on breathing.
Duncan cracked me up on this episode
He showed up to Nike without a prototype and didn't get a 2nd chance from them when he had one. Says all you need to know about the product.
Dragons' Den is always live, smart move. The channels shows up in the top of the subscriptions and the video listings draw more attention with the red live labels.
The company is called progressive sports technology for anyone interested. They have a pretty extensive client list nowadays
Hilarious. Duncan totally got owned.
When you look back at this episode you will probably change your mind.
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
Dude knows exactly what he needs and wants. What a man.
Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620 dude shut up you comment this on everyone’s post
@@JCRoberts97 I had to open peoples eyes, otherwise they will keep falling for scams
Duncan the brave.
Just buy a T shirt that's two sizes too small.
Gosh all the dragons look so young esp’ Duncan
Impressive intelligent man, admire him in many ways, but missing business acumen and personal skills which illustrates why he’s an academic and not an entrepreneur
Great pitch
Wow this guy was extremely good at handling Duncan there
Duncan at core is good old snub britisher who is full of themselves
that's one big jacket
Duncan got the wooden spoon haha
Get back in your box jock !
Fair play mate .
Fair play indeed 👏
what a muppet getting schooled by duncan like that
Change your food to combat breathlessness
opera singers don't use a rubber band.
Thorax? Isnt that what bugs have?
I think this guy is good.
put Duncan in his place!
The Doctor seemed like he would be fly by night and belligerent in the long term.
Is this a Lycra corset? If he’d used whalebone, Deborah would’ve loved it on account of it not being plastic. 😁
This entrepreneur got too excited by the game and argued too much. He accidentally argued his way out of a deal. He probably would have got Peter's investment had he not been so combative.
Wow, Duncan is arguing like a Karen.
He always has in these early seasons. He’s terrible to watch.
Just cause you got millions in the bank doesn’t mean you know everything. Well done for that boy putting Duncan in his place!
you got scammed by this gimmick
Wear your tightest vest. Your welcome.
This guy looks and speaks exactly like that guy from Numberphile.
Lee Evans first appearance of comedy
If you think Duncan was belligerent here you should have seen him when I asked for extra sprinkles one day on my ice cream ! Bloody raging he was !
Hahaha
"I don't invest in anything that doesn't turn me on" 👀
Respi vest would be difficult to retail
If he's a doctor, maybe he shouldn't talk about a "breathing muscle" that doesn't exist. What's that supposed to be? The intercostals? The diaphragm? If you belly breathe, which you should, the ribcage doesn't really expand anyway.
MY NAME...IS MICHAEL CAINE.
He blew it…
Gotta love Duncan. Can beat common sense
Its like saying a corset will improve your breathing lol
Exactly! Everything points towards a weak product and delusional creator, no prototype, no sales, no investment from Nike, no dragon wanted to invest, not even the creator wanted to invest his time when asked by Pete, the answers from the PhD guy sound good to the viewers but investors would never fall for it, they all gave polite excuses not to invest, and Duncan was the only person with enough courage to pointed out the obvious (the pitch sounds like a loads of nonsense, using fancy words)
@@googleuser3620 Thanks for ruining this comment section
That’s not how breathing works!
The main breathing muscle is the diaphragm, and it expands downwards. It’s the main working muscle. That’s why it’s the one that gets tired and hurts. The other muscles are much less powerful and significant. Squeezing the chest is not going to do much of what they’re claiming. Lame and scammy.
It's what happens when people go to school instead of the real world.
"The 2 dragons that are yet to invest are out". Doug Richard never invested. Waste of a chair
So its a science project and he wants €100k.
Do you mean to say that scientific advances are unprofitable?
Duncan is funny!😂
his cocky smile after his speech at 5:45
im out
Looks like Jenny's OUT...
Looks like Barbara's OUT...
Looks like Naomi's OUT...
He's got Freddie Mercury teeth.