I appreciate these videos cause im a big anime fan and love video games and i listen to these videos/theories while playing so i dont get too bored xD. But honestly the amount of thinking/researching goes into this is insane. So keep up the good work!
An interesting alternative to this would be, what if Nagato and Konan weren’t broken by Yahiko’s death. Basically what if they held true to his ideals, and didn’t go down the path they did.
I don't think it's possible, Yahiko meant too much to them, they just can't help but break over his death. Especially Nagato. Perhaps without Obito's influence, he would have chosen a different path, but it would still have been a villainous one.
Hidan wouldn't have been old enough for the 3rd ninja was, He's around Itachi's age. I always found it unique when people don't think yahiko was powerful or perhaps versatile. I always kind of viewed him as the Jiraiya of his group. I believe he was the strongest in his crew until his death. As always great video and concept
Honestly I thought the what if videos were a little bit corny at first but you've done them so well that I'm genuinely intrigued when they pop up thank you for doing what you do man you're still amazing!!
What if Tobirama miraculously _survived_ his final battle with the Gold and Silver Brothers, and the Kinkaku Squad? I mean, he _already_ passed his title as Hokage down to Hiruzen... but ex-Kage's have an outsized influence on their Villages. What would change with Tobirama still hanging around in the background?
@@kaceycat3661 Nah with Danzo and potentially other village elders being weakened and having less influence the Uchia will have a bit more freedoms and plus Itachi would not be manipulated by Danzo.
@@baseupp12 We're taalking about Tobirama, those swirlyeyed Uchiggers would have been gone even sooner. Just kidding, he would have been a positive influnence and probably would have kept Danzo in check.
There are so many different takes and alternative routes that could be taken from Yahiko not dying. There are probably 10's - 100's of Fanfictions about this in specific. It is impossible to know exactly what would've happened if he didn't die, but there are probably great theories that are realistic somewhere out there. You can also say in canon that Yahiko never died, as Nagato never forgot about him, and never gave up on his dream. (Even if he was manipulated into doing a bastardized version of it)
Momoshiki watching all these inferior creatures just being like “Alright time to be space cop again. Because this planet looking mighty tasty and mighty easy”
Whatever happened to Itachi's Yata mirror and Totsuka Blade? Nagato's soul is still trapped within the blade in an eternal drunken dream. Sealing jutsu are incredibly scary because ninja heaven is a real place and having your soul sealed when you are alive robs you of your afterlife aswell. Where did Itachi's weapons go after his death and who had them before him? Orochimaru new of their existence which implies someone else owned them before Itachi. What if Nagato is brought back during the Boruto era with Kaguya (remember Kaguya isn't dead, she's sealed within another dimension inside a big moon rock).
I just love this channel and the discussions these videos spawn. Not only are the videos high quality and make a lot of sense taking in a ton of factors, but the comments can be just as knowledgeable some times. I love this series so much, but I rarely see this side of the fandom.
Is really like to see a continuation of this one and how you think Naruto and sasukes lives would play out considering the cycle of reincarnation never ended
Technically the only requirement for the cycle to end is for both reincarnations to lose the will to hate the other when they die, its called the cycle of hate for a reason
@@ericwalsh2954 yeah but peace wasn’t really established worldwide yet there was just a precedent between the Leaf and Rain so as they grow up they could have differing opinions on how to bring peace. Just like how madara and Hashirama didn’t always hate each other. Also I’m pretty sure the cycle of hate is considered the duality of man by madara so I don’t think it has anything to do with Indra and ashura. I could be wrong though
I thought Fugaku becoming the 4th was my favorite What If but this is contending with it. A chance for peace to be achieved without Naruto ever getting involved.
IMO. Obito is a good counter to Hanzo. Like I get your poison dust argument, which is valid. But Obito would just look at the Salamander and take the control over it and use it to fight Hanzo. Who, as we saw, a close range fighter with that weapon he has. And Kamui counters that too. So honestly, it's either Obito genjutsues the Salamander or he can genjutsu Hanzo too and GG, tbh. I know Obito isn't really a genjutsu focused fighter, like Itachi. But I mean he totally could do it, IMO.
I feel the way you talk about naruto story lines that you could make your own anime and it would be the most interesting thing ever with all the twist and turns you give us on a day to day basis.
Hm, when Danzo met Hanzo, he had his eye covered. If Danzo had Shisui's eye already, it could be possible that he manipulated Hanzo, as he tried to manipulate Mifune with his eye. It can explain why Hanzo who initially fought for peace became more selfish. It is not him, its just Kotoamatsukami, from which he could never break. If it is real, then in the war arc Hanzo and Mifune were the two, who experienced Kotoamatsukami xD
He had a different sharingan not Shisuis. This was before the nine tailed fox, which is what lead to the Uchiha planning the coup, which is what lead Shisui to Say he was going to use Koto of Fugaku to stop it. Then Danzo took his eye
Incorrect, This seems to be around the time of the 3GNW, as Danzo has not 'injured' his arm. (He had his arm hidden when he 'fought' Shisui as well, so we can presume it was injured during/around the 3GNW) He also appears to have a much more youthful appearance (He seems to look 45 - 55, and when Danzo fought Shisui he appears to be in his mid 60's) He also used a Sharingan against Shisui, so we know that he had one before the Massacre, this confirms this event happens before/around Naruto's birth
@@Edited_Comment canonically, Danzo never used a sharingan against Shisui (something we know thanks to Itachi Shinden, the scene in the anime where Danzo uses Izanagi against Shisui and proceeds to humiliate him is filler), so we can't tell if he already had a sharingan or not in that moment
I love your what ifs because others are like what if naruto was half Denny half uchiha but yours actually make sense and aren’t all about making a broken main character as always good video so well done
I had been wanting you to do one on this! Another idea for a video is to tell us what all happened while kakashi was hokage because not many people know it! Love the content
I got one for you (what if kakuzu took hidan's heart) -Would kakuzu be unable to die? Would kakuzu gain the curse jutsu? Would hidan still function without his heart?
this was fuckin awesome, man. especially the very end, nice imagery, poetic resolution, & overall a cool creative endeavor. especially the very end with nagato's 2 friends each holding back one of his hands to stop black zetsu...that would've been dope to see, bro! nice writing.
This is great! I have always wondered what might have happened in this scenario. I have a video idea: What if Might Guy became Hokage instead of Kakashi? Or maybe instead of Danzo but that seems less likely
This video made me realize just how many things had to go just right for the Uchiha Massacre to take place and for the Naruto to being who we see him has in the base Naruto timeline
Ahem. I think you're 100% accurate, and I love the way you talk and the way you look lmao. Hope you're having a great day/night if you see this, love the content
I would love to hear about what is happening on the leaf village side during and after these events. Especially since despite these events, Sasuke and Naruto are still the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura. Even without the presence of Black Zetsu, his past actions will still affect other events as well. Also, Tanari and the Otsotsuki still exist and will come into play eventually. Then again, coming up with a lot of the story on the leaf side would probably be more speculation than anything at that point, especially as the storyline progressed further along the timeline.
Dude your what if really made me happy cry! 😍😍😍 You are the positive what if while the amagi is always the dark ending. That is why u r one of my faves
I think a cool video idea would be a filler arc tier list. Discussing some of the filler that either truly accented/explained the story in a positive way vs some that were just useless series extenders.
Orochimaru in the 4th great ninja war said himself to Hiruzen that madara's eye of the moon plan was something he did not support. His research experiments would stop.
Naruto character idea (credits: made by me) so u know in the final ems+Rinnegan Sasuke vs SO6P naruto when Sasuke hit one of narutos truthseeker orbs into the bottom of a lake? Well basically this new character finds this one truthseeker orb and there’s this whole arc where the character and the orb become friends and bond and all the abilities are like the orb becoming shields and weapons and projectiles and stuff so it’s just this random cool guy with a truthseeker orb and he’s a good guy as well? Lemme know what u think
Very solid. Gives me similar vibes to how another what if story about the Ame trio, on the homie Pickled Dills Podcast channel where Jiraiya takes the 3 to Konoha. Not gonna lie would love to see a Collab with you two on a what if of some kind.
You know what I think we never got a answer to. Is why the people who were the pains was people who Jariya had fought. Was it just a coincidence or was it supposed to mean something. Confused with that
I always read the Propchey as Nagato and Naruto were both the Child of Propchey because it says that ethier the child will lead the world to ruin what Nagato was heading towards and the other option was lead the world to peace what Naruto wanted.
If Yahiko had survived, then the World would've never knew Pain.
They would know happiness
With Orochimaru in the world anybody with a powerful bloodline or whoever met him would of known pain.
This word shall know happiness all mighty counter of depression
Madara's earlier existence would teach the world pain, his plan would change ofc but it would still have the same end goal
I got you.
Yahiko played a big part in Naruto, despite being already dead.
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If Yahiko survived then he wouldn't have died
Way to state the obvious 🙄 lol
Damn, I never thought of that.
YOUR RIGHT ILL BE DAMNED.
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Kinda want Nick to do a series where he just tells us his ultimate version of naruto 🤔
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I appreciate these videos cause im a big anime fan and love video games and i listen to these videos/theories while playing so i dont get too bored xD. But honestly the amount of thinking/researching goes into this is insane. So keep up the good work!
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I listen to all his vids while gaming or working since I’ve found his channels lol
An interesting alternative to this would be, what if Nagato and Konan weren’t broken by Yahiko’s death.
Basically what if they held true to his ideals, and didn’t go down the path they did.
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Then obitos either solo , or the only teammate he gets on his side potentially is kisame at the most
@@meetthemoo225zetsu would have joined as well
I don't think it's possible, Yahiko meant too much to them, they just can't help but break over his death. Especially Nagato. Perhaps without Obito's influence, he would have chosen a different path, but it would still have been a villainous one.
Hidan wouldn't have been old enough for the 3rd ninja was, He's around Itachi's age. I always found it unique when people don't think yahiko was powerful or perhaps versatile. I always kind of viewed him as the Jiraiya of his group. I believe he was the strongest in his crew until his death. As always great video and concept
Danzo played a vital role in Naruto. I mean we wouldn't have had the great Itachi and Pain it it wasn't of him.
The most vital piece of shit in the whole show. Like Hitler combined with Bush
Honestly I thought the what if videos were a little bit corny at first but you've done them so well that I'm genuinely intrigued when they pop up thank you for doing what you do man you're still amazing!!
What if Tobirama miraculously _survived_ his final battle with the Gold and Silver Brothers, and the Kinkaku Squad? I mean, he _already_ passed his title as Hokage down to Hiruzen... but ex-Kage's have an outsized influence on their Villages. What would change with Tobirama still hanging around in the background?
Hiruzen will grow balls. Damzo will be more tamed but Uchiha will still die.
@@kaceycat3661 Nah with Danzo and potentially other village elders being weakened and having less influence the Uchia will have a bit more freedoms and plus Itachi would not be manipulated by Danzo.
@@baseupp12 We're taalking about Tobirama, those swirlyeyed Uchiggers would have been gone even sooner.
Just kidding, he would have been a positive influnence and probably would have kept Danzo in check.
There are so many different takes and alternative routes that could be taken from Yahiko not dying. There are probably 10's - 100's of Fanfictions about this in specific. It is impossible to know exactly what would've happened if he didn't die, but there are probably great theories that are realistic somewhere out there.
You can also say in canon that Yahiko never died, as Nagato never forgot about him, and never gave up on his dream. (Even if he was manipulated into doing a bastardized version of it)
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Great comment
Unfortunately he dishonored his memory but yes
Nagato is my favorite Naruto character, so I'm glad that he finally did something good. He achieved his goal
Momoshiki watching all these inferior creatures just being like “Alright time to be space cop again. Because this planet looking mighty tasty and mighty easy”
Actually, I think that as soon as Obito sees that he's gonna lose, he would just Kamui himself out of there.
Whatever happened to Itachi's Yata mirror and Totsuka Blade? Nagato's soul is still trapped within the blade in an eternal drunken dream. Sealing jutsu are incredibly scary because ninja heaven is a real place and having your soul sealed when you are alive robs you of your afterlife aswell. Where did Itachi's weapons go after his death and who had them before him? Orochimaru new of their existence which implies someone else owned them before Itachi. What if Nagato is brought back during the Boruto era with Kaguya (remember Kaguya isn't dead, she's sealed within another dimension inside a big moon rock).
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@@daniflorin5350 bro stop it it’s not funny anymore,it was for a second but now its just annoying people
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@@nickyblue4866 he’s said that reply at least 20 times
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I just love this channel and the discussions these videos spawn. Not only are the videos high quality and make a lot of sense taking in a ton of factors, but the comments can be just as knowledgeable some times. I love this series so much, but I rarely see this side of the fandom.
Yahiko was like to Nagato like Shmi Skywalker was to Anakin, someone to keep his head straight
Is really like to see a continuation of this one and how you think Naruto and sasukes lives would play out considering the cycle of reincarnation never ended
Technically the only requirement for the cycle to end is for both reincarnations to lose the will to hate the other when they die, its called the cycle of hate for a reason
@@ericwalsh2954 yeah but peace wasn’t really established worldwide yet there was just a precedent between the Leaf and Rain so as they grow up they could have differing opinions on how to bring peace. Just like how madara and Hashirama didn’t always hate each other. Also I’m pretty sure the cycle of hate is considered the duality of man by madara so I don’t think it has anything to do with Indra and ashura. I could be wrong though
Danzo was the cause of so many issues in the series so if he just didn’t exist things would have been so much more peaceful lol
And then everyone dies when the otsutsukis arrive on earth 30 years later
I thought Fugaku becoming the 4th was my favorite What If but this is contending with it. A chance for peace to be achieved without Naruto ever getting involved.
IMO. Obito is a good counter to Hanzo. Like I get your poison dust argument, which is valid. But Obito would just look at the Salamander and take the control over it and use it to fight Hanzo. Who, as we saw, a close range fighter with that weapon he has. And Kamui counters that too.
So honestly, it's either Obito genjutsues the Salamander or he can genjutsu Hanzo too and GG, tbh. I know Obito isn't really a genjutsu focused fighter, like Itachi. But I mean he totally could do it, IMO.
I feel the way you talk about naruto story lines that you could make your own anime and it would be the most interesting thing ever with all the twist and turns you give us on a day to day basis.
If Yahiko had survived, then Obito's Akatsuki would've never been what it was.
Hm, when Danzo met Hanzo, he had his eye covered. If Danzo had Shisui's eye already, it could be possible that he manipulated Hanzo, as he tried to manipulate Mifune with his eye. It can explain why Hanzo who initially fought for peace became more selfish. It is not him, its just Kotoamatsukami, from which he could never break. If it is real, then in the war arc Hanzo and Mifune were the two, who experienced Kotoamatsukami xD
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No man,not possible. He gets Shisui's eye around just a little bit before the Uchiha massacre while Yahiko died during the 3rd Great Ninja War.
He had a different sharingan not Shisuis.
This was before the nine tailed fox, which is what lead to the Uchiha planning the coup, which is what lead Shisui to Say he was going to use Koto of Fugaku to stop it.
Then Danzo took his eye
Incorrect, This seems to be around the time of the 3GNW, as Danzo has not 'injured' his arm. (He had his arm hidden when he 'fought' Shisui as well, so we can presume it was injured during/around the 3GNW) He also appears to have a much more youthful appearance (He seems to look 45 - 55, and when Danzo fought Shisui he appears to be in his mid 60's) He also used a Sharingan against Shisui, so we know that he had one before the Massacre, this confirms this event happens before/around Naruto's birth
@@Edited_Comment canonically, Danzo never used a sharingan against Shisui (something we know thanks to Itachi Shinden, the scene in the anime where Danzo uses Izanagi against Shisui and proceeds to humiliate him is filler), so we can't tell if he already had a sharingan or not in that moment
Damn you right , your timeline is better
Imagine orochimaru just walking around Konoha after he summoned himself from anko and he just sees jiraiya.
honestly, looking at stuff like this Danzo did as much to further Black Zetsu's goals as anyone else did
I love your what ifs because others are like what if naruto was half Denny half uchiha but yours actually make sense and aren’t all about making a broken main character as always good video so well done
9:41 Hidan would still be a kid, he was in his early 20s when he joined the Akatsuki.
This has been one of my favorite hypotheticals. Absolutely love this timeline
Im a big fan of Salad saiyan and masakoX what if and always thought naruto what if stories would be fun glad i found a channel doing them!
for me salad shadiyan best dragon ball what if yt
Yahiko committed suicide and it didn't even make sense.🤦
“I made a mistake.” Pretty true, we are GOING to get that channel to 50k
I had been wanting you to do one on this! Another idea for a video is to tell us what all happened while kakashi was hokage because not many people know it! Love the content
Dont usual cry on these but found myself shedding a tear when yahiko and konan help nagato defend black zetsu lol
You are the GOAT of naruto content on TH-cam. Keep it up boss 👍
All in hearing is that everything is the third hokages fault for not getting rid of a clearly corrupt Danzo
He did but the root kept him in power even thought he was stripped of all his village given power so he couldn't take more
@@thejinxedcat3616 the dude was running a separate anbu, imprison or kill him. He is actively undermining the hokage
I guess Konan finally get to lose her virginity to Yahiko, then.
I got one for you (what if kakuzu took hidan's heart)
-Would kakuzu be unable to die? Would kakuzu gain the curse jutsu? Would hidan still function without his heart?
Bro explained the plot of Nagato: Shippuden
this was fuckin awesome, man. especially the very end, nice imagery, poetic resolution, & overall a cool creative endeavor. especially the very end with nagato's 2 friends each holding back one of his hands to stop black zetsu...that would've been dope to see, bro! nice writing.
This whole video (especially the end) was like listening to a bedtime story, a mature one
Less go I was hoping for this video for so long!
This is great! I have always wondered what might have happened in this scenario.
I have a video idea: What if Might Guy became Hokage instead of Kakashi? Or maybe instead of Danzo but that seems less likely
You’re 100% accurate and I love the way you talk and the way you look
Thanks for doing my idea nchammer ! Man u r gr8
Love coming to work on a Sunday and seeing a video to listen to while working!
oh my god, that's an insane idea, I have to cover this myself sometime, good job on your end tho
literally pumped my fist when u saw u uploaded, boutta go smoke n ur vids always make the vibe better🙏
Next “What If” idea, what if Itachi allowed the Uchiha Coup to happen??
I just love doggo walking by in the beginning
Bro this is good, keep up the good work! 😁
You're 100% accurate and I love the way you talk and I love the way you look Nick.
Orochimaru: "GIVE ME YOUR RINNEGAN OR JIRAYA DIES!"
The universal pull in Nagato's hand:
I think you're one hundred percent right and I love the way you talk and the way you look.
Just commenting for support! Love the page💙
Love the video and keep up the great work nick
This video made me realize just how many things had to go just right for the Uchiha Massacre to take place and for the Naruto to being who we see him has in the base Naruto timeline
Nick lifted that hundred pound box like a champ
bro i love your videos so much, these are my favourites things to watch. Keep up the good work man ❤️
i think you’re 100% accurate and I like the way you talk and the way you look!
Ahem. I think you're 100% accurate, and I love the way you talk and the way you look lmao. Hope you're having a great day/night if you see this, love the content
I would love to hear about what is happening on the leaf village side during and after these events. Especially since despite these events, Sasuke and Naruto are still the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura. Even without the presence of Black Zetsu, his past actions will still affect other events as well. Also, Tanari and the Otsotsuki still exist and will come into play eventually. Then again, coming up with a lot of the story on the leaf side would probably be more speculation than anything at that point, especially as the storyline progressed further along the timeline.
Sounds good! Can't wait to see the other page's growth, if anything like this!!! Then I can't wait to hit the comments!!💯🥰🔥💪🏾
That was beautifully done!
Dude your what if really made me happy cry! 😍😍😍
You are the positive what if while the amagi is always the dark ending. That is why u r one of my faves
I think a cool video idea would be a filler arc tier list. Discussing some of the filler that either truly accented/explained the story in a positive way vs some that were just useless series extenders.
I came across weeb commander and thought someone was ripping your videos, it's great content I can't wait to see more!
I am so glad I found this channel. Keep up the amazing content
Orochimaru in the 4th great ninja war said himself to Hiruzen that madara's eye of the moon plan was something he did not support. His research experiments would stop.
the first 30 seconds is a summary why fanfics and what ifs from long series or ones with books are the best ones
I was kinda lost a bit but I got back lol
Naruto character idea (credits: made by me) so u know in the final ems+Rinnegan Sasuke vs SO6P naruto when Sasuke hit one of narutos truthseeker orbs into the bottom of a lake? Well basically this new character finds this one truthseeker orb and there’s this whole arc where the character and the orb become friends and bond and all the abilities are like the orb becoming shields and weapons and projectiles and stuff so it’s just this random cool guy with a truthseeker orb and he’s a good guy as well? Lemme know what u think
Another Good Video. I always wondered if Yahiko never died
Damn that was great and well though out!
This would have been one of those dream episodes! Great vid
I feel Orochimaru is smart enough to out-manipulate Black Zetsu
I agree
Bro you supply so much great content for me it helps me through hard time so just thank you
Yahkio nagato Naruto Sasuke Sai & Itachi are my favorite characters From Naruto anime
And then Momoshiki kills everyone when he pulls up 40ish years later
Had to laugh when he said Sakura is a better medical mind than Orichimaru. Sakura is playing checkers while Orichimaru is playing 4D chess.
i never realized how much yahiko’s death caused
YOU ARE THE GOD OF WHAT IFS.
This was baddass!
0:12 Yahiko just respawned
This has to have been one of the best what ifs 🔥🔥 The fact that the story ends without even involving Naruto is crazy.
Question? What would be the best 4 man team? 1 sensei 3 ninjas ? Not including boruto timeline. Good or evil.
I love how he was struggling
"JUZO's not cannon" killed me
I like your spin on the story, I would love seeing this animated in a alternate timeline.
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This one was a sick what if. Would make a great movie lol
He didn't just think nagato and naruto were the child of prophecy he also thought minato was as well
Happy birthday Yahiko.🎂🎁
Very solid. Gives me similar vibes to how another what if story about the Ame trio, on the homie Pickled Dills Podcast channel where Jiraiya takes the 3 to Konoha. Not gonna lie would love to see a Collab with you two on a what if of some kind.
You know what I think we never got a answer to. Is why the people who were the pains was people who Jariya had fought. Was it just a coincidence or was it supposed to mean something. Confused with that
I always read the Propchey as Nagato and Naruto were both the Child of Propchey because it says that ethier the child will lead the world to ruin what Nagato was heading towards and the other option was lead the world to peace what Naruto wanted.
It was inevitable for both versions, destiny made plotarmor real. Rewatch it. Contemplate it. Come back and attack me
Ngl Brodie while u was pushing that cardboard thing it sounded brazyyy
Yeah but that just stops kaguya. The cycle of hate is the two reincarnates fighting.
So we still need a plot for naruto and sasuke to brawl it out.