Unless you have lived it, you may not believe it. But there are indeed some mothers like that out there. Not just movie stars. Christina Crawford may sound too polished at times, almost mechanical. But what she says makes perfect sense. Being raised to model your parents, seeing a reflection of yourself in their eyes, that is completely out of sync with the person you really are, and being terrorized by their every desire and whim and obsession. The child may still love their parent in spite of this and can survive, but there is terrible trauma, and it may take a lifetime to make sense of what happened and find a sense of inner peace.
@@NJG0516 The Logic of Christina Crawford Believers: I believe Christina Crawford! I was abused as a child, and despite that abuse occurring in a totally 'different' household, by totally 'different' people and in a totally 'different' decade, my story PROVES Joan Crawford abused her children! Joan Crawford's other children(Cathy and Cindy)'s stories DO NOT count! It doesn't matter that they were raised by the 'same' mother, in the 'same' household, and during the 'same' era! I know the truth because I was abused. **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
The only reason some people defend Joan Crawford is because she was famous. If she wasn't, no one would be complaining about her "image" being tarnished or say that Christina should be "grateful" to have been adopted. It's the parent's responsibility to provide food, shelter, clothing, education and love for a child - basic human rights. If this involved ordinary citizens, guaranteed no one would be defending the abuser.
I agree. I always believed Christina. No one will ever know what happened or how much was exaggerated. But people tend to have this mindset that certain people (especially the rich and famous ) are beyond criticism and can't do any wrong. You see this type of attitude even among "ordinary " people ; someone that is well -educated and financially well off is more likely to be put on a pedestal. I get some of what Christina's detractors are saying , such as asking why Christina wrote the book after Joan's death . There are legitimate questions . On at least 2 or 3 occasions Christiana has appeared to contradict herself a little , but I've always believed her. But , had it been someone other than Joan Crawford who had been written about and accused of abuse , no one would've cared or defended the person.
@@michellee2990 feelings change as we deal with the terror inflicted upon us. So, I don't think she contradicted herself at any time. It is so very confusing to feel love and fear for and about a person that we should have trusted to keep us safe. Mind- boggling. That is why so many victims cannot accurately articulate thought and feelings without the right guidance. Some suffer all their lives. The lucky ones do get past it and understand and forgive. Oh but the road is rough
People defend Joan Crawford due to the fact that Christine’s version of events is hotly disputed by people that actually knew Joan Crawford, including Joan’s youngest children , who denied that there was any abuse and were extremely upset at the smearing of their mother.
@@thefairhairedboywiththered2951 Abusers don't necessarily mistreat everyone they come into contact with. That cannot be stressed enough. It's not uncommon for them to target certain people and not others. You can't disregard abuse just because other people had a different experience. There also tends to be a high level of denial where abuse is concerned, especially in families. Gaslighting and Stockholm Syndrome is common as well. Christopher, in the only interview that he ever granted in his lifetime, confirmed that he was also abused.
@@Muirmaiden In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident. In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.” Above is an excerpt from the ChristinaCrawfordLied facebook.
She is well spoken, intelligent and very perceptive. I thank her for her strength, courage and bringing attention to parental abuse, God Bless you Christina Crawford!
solemandd67 She is extremely intelligent and well spoken. I've watched interviews with her simply because I like hearing her talk. She's articulate and spontaneous as hell. See interview with Larry King live. Above all else, she is an overcomer.
@@dianeallen6330 Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Good job on this interview. I remember way back when when I attended a conference on PTSD for a psychology credit in college. I believe Christina Crawford helped organize the whole event--gosh, I hate to admit how long ago that was...I think I might not have survived without her. I hope she sticks around for a while, because given the political climate in America, it's clear we still need her to educate people about narcissism, bullying, and thinking for oneself (especially when it comes to speaking out against child abuse). Thanks again for this interview.
What an excellent interview and an incredible woman!! The only reason I would not give it 5 stars would be the annoying soundtrack!! Why is there bouncy jazz playing in the background? It is so incredibly distracting...had to rewind more than once to focus on what she was saying because of it. Otherwise, the interviewer and guest were superb.
Christina Crawford is an incredible soul, woman whom I have tremendous respect for and gratitude to her. She opened the door, awakened the world to a serious problem that needed to be "outed" and addressed. She paved the way and because of her, all her work, efforts and perseverance the world is and continues to be a better place, not only for children but for adults who need help, need to get help. I have such respect, admiration and gratitude for this incredible woman.
I hope Nelson has nightmares every night of Mommie Dearest waking him up in the middle of the night beating him screaming.. "NO...BACKGROUND......MUSIC.....EVERRR!!!!!
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident. In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.” *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I 100% believe her. My mom was a drunk and I experienced these "night raids" as well. I'll never forget the time I had just cleaned my room and my mom came in to check after me and she started throwing everything from my desk and dressers onto the floor while telling me to clean it up. It was the most confusing thing, and it part of the reason I have cptsd.
@@dickiegreenleaf750 this is what all of her supporters do. Well never know how much of Christina’s story is true but the fact that she takes zero responsibility for any of her life is a big tell for me. She even blames Joan for the stroke she had a few years ago. Now it’s fashionable to be a perpetual victim and boy do these folks like to project.
I am so much in love with Christina Crawford. She is so well mannered, so articulate, so inspirational. She is such a class act. I absolutely love her.
Christina had the right to tell her story of abuse regardless of who her mother was. She maintains that her mother was a brilliant actress. She always has. And that she loved her mother. Joan Crawford doesn't deserve to get away with abusing her children. Oh, so many people hate it that her image has been tarnished. Get over it. She abused those children behind closed doors. It was high time someone said NO MORE SECRETS!
She has changed her story one too many times. She took a lot of content out for the re release of her novel. It's a different book now compared to the 1978 version. She's basically a fiction writer. My aunt went to one of her xmas parties that she holds in Idaho and she was handing out decorated wire hangers to everyone who came. I was disgusted when my aunt told me. Making fun of her abuse? Who does that..as a victim myself, I would advocate for the cause if i was in her positions instead of acting the way she is and hanging out with drag queens at parties. She's living off her dead mother. Her husband even left her because he couldn't stand it.
665kk Is there any victim who hasn't found out more from their story as time goes on? I don't agree with what she did at that Christmas party. I think she has a lot of anger that she won't admit to. But after a childhood of abuse, which can seem like a life time of prison, I'm sure there are times when you want to shout it from the roofs! Again, I don't care who her mother is. And yes, Christina has profited from telling her story and she has used a lot of this money to help other victims. I don't mind that Joan is paying for what she did. She should have when she was alive. There are a lot of "Hollywood" people who claim the abuse to be true but even if only Christina did, I would still believe her.
Rachel A. A. She didn't find any more from her story..She actually took a lot of the bad things out for the recent re release and added some things about her going to university (which Joan paid for btw) and how her career was. It doesn't even focuses on the alleged abuse anymore. What "Hollywood" people saw it happen? Because the "Hollywood" people who were actually close to Joan say the abuse never happened. People like Myrna Loy, who knew Joan from 1925-1977, and actually worked with Christina in a production of "Barefoot in the Park" had this to say (if there’s someone with the cleanest moral integrity, decency, and kind heart that was Myrna Loy. And she was completely shocked by Tina’s claims. She knew pre-fame Joan (that’s the closest you can get to the truth). She doesn’t romanticize Joan either she admitted Joan was an alcoholic and an ambitious woman.): "I can tell you that when you made a friend in Joan you had a friend for life. She never forgot your birthday, and you'd get a congratulatory note from her when good things happened in your life. She cared about people and her friends, no matter what anybody says. I liked her, and I miss her, and her daughter's stories are pure bunk. Even if they were true, If ever there was a girl who needed a good whack it was spoiled, horrible Christina. Believe me, there were many times I wanted to smack her myself." | "We didn't have any problems in "Barefoot" until Christina Crawford appeared. I've never known anybody else like her--ever. Her stubbornness was really unbelievable. She would not do a single thing that anybody told her to do. You'd go out there on the stage and you couldn't find her. One thing an actor needs to know is exactly where people are on the stage. Christina completely disregarded her blocking, throwing the rest of us off....She was going to do it her way. It was self-defeating and sad, because the girl had potential". | "She wanted to be Joan Crawford. I think that's the basis of the book she wrote afterward and everything else. I saw what her mind created, the fantasy world she lived in. She envied her mother, grew to hate her, and wanted to destroy her." |
665kk Oh I get it. This is personal. You knew the other face of Joan so you don't want to believe this was possible. Do you know the statistics of how many people are wonderful to everyone else and then behind closed doors abuse their children? And just because Christina wasn't perfect you act as though it couldn't have happened. Maybe she behaved that way because she was acting out. Abuse victims can have bad behavior sometimes, just like everybody else. I am through with people like you! Maybe child abuse would stop if the ignorance and blindness would!
Rachel A. A. I don't think an abuse victim such as myself would defend an abuser if I didn't have a strong idea that the "victim" in the situation was lying. Joan wasn't a perfect parent; she said so herself. But strict doesn't mean abusive. Joan said she wasn't there for her kids enough because of work. Lucille Ball said the exact same, so did Barbara Stanwyck about her own parenting. But I don't go attacking them because they say those things. And I don't go attacking a deceased person over a book that her daughter was too cowardly to release when her mother was alive. I don't believe the things Dion has said about Barbara Stanwyck either because it's so one sided and cowardly too. It's not like BD Hyman with Bette Davis. Oh well, call me ignorant but if I ever meet Christina i'll let her know what abuse really is.
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident. In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.” *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. What's the issue? Oh right its because there couldn't be the slightest possibility whatsoever that Christina lied about certain details like being strangled could there? And I'm not doubting there wasn't an issue between the two women at all.
I believe her. There is a channel Christina Crawford Lied that posts videos accusing Christina of lying, deletes comments who have a different opinion. Stay AWAY from them. I personally believe Christina. I believe most of what she said is true - she was ABUSED imo the twins weren't. I have a Mother who was much like Joan. Bipolar Narcissistic crazy. You'd be surprised but there are MANY Mothers out there that are are exactly like this.
I love Christina for all she has done for speaking up.I feel so sad for Christopher and wish his side was known though it's understandable.People don't know how debilitating abuse ruins lives and some people have a harder time functioning.
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident. In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.” *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I think it's so wonderful how she's turned her life into something positive and fun and all the strength that must have taken to do that. I think she's lovely. Thank you Christina for being so brave through all the hardships. You're a wonderful example of healing through transparency and sharing your story. Lovely 💕🌼🍃
This was another great episode! A lot of insight into the story. Nelson is a brilliant interviewer! Watch @Nelson's! every Friday. All episodes have been great! :)
@@jermainejones6149 In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident. In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.” *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
@@jermainejones6149 Following Joan Crawford’s death in May 1977, her will bequeathed a large portion of her assets to several worthy charities. Among them were: The Muscular Dystrophy Association, the American Cancer Society and the Motion Picture Country Home, which is a nursing home that provides care to the indigent who could not afford care. Christina was infamously disinherited in Joan Crawford’s will. As a result, Christina attempted to void Crawford’s will, and thereby STRIP these charities of the MUCH-NEEDED financial resources that Joan Crawford had bequeathed to them. Christina did this in the interest of her own GREEDY benefit. As a result of Christina’s actions against Joan Crawford’s estate, these charities had to PAY for legal representation during the two-year court battle, thus draining funds from the charities' budgets. In the end, Joan Crawford’s estate settled with Christina Crawford, and her brother, Christopher, in the amount of $55,000, which was to be divided between both siblings. Christina Crawford later claimed she only contested Joan Crawford’s will for her brother’s financial benefit. However, here are some FACTS regarding Christina’s TRUE interest in her brother’s financial well-being: Of the $55,000 estate settlement, Christina claims to have given all of it to her brother. This is FALSE. More than HALF of the $55,000 was first paid to Christina’s attorney, who was representing her interest in the publication of her book “Mommie Dearest.” Therefore, LESS than half of the funds were actual given to Christopher. The LARGER bulk was paid to Christina’s attorney for HER benefit. Christina Crawford’s “Mommie Dearest” was a best-selling book. From the MILLIONS of dollars she made in proceeds from the book's sells, she gave her brother, Christopher, only $10,000 for his rights. Christina sold the film rights for $280,000 (according to Christina). Other sources cite the sell of the film rights for $500,000. From this sell, Christina gave her brother NOTHING. Christina NEVER contributed any proceeds from the sell of her book to ANY child abuse organization, or other charity. Nor has Christina Crawford EVER volunteered her time or resources to ANY such organization or charity. Any connection Christina had with such charity was a PAID spokesperson position. Christina later admitted that she and her husband, David Koontz, spent all of this money within only SIX years, and she was BROKE by 1985. THIS is who Christina Crawford is. She is NOT a victim. She is NOT a survivor. She is a DISGUSTING, GREEDY, LIAR. A child with muscular dystrophy IS a survivor. A person battling cancer IS a survivor. An elderly person struggling IS a survivor. Christina Crawford attempted to, wrongly, obtain the needed resources of these TRUE survivors. *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I had a Dad who did to me some of what happened to her. And I wondered how she coped with all this criscoam and victim blaming. I thought, that cannot have always been easy. Takes some courage and maturity and wherewithal to handle that.
Wow suuch a different more vibrant, *happier, secure person than the interviews she did in the 70s and 80s. Like SHE admitted herself was still in a LOT of pain/trauma during those interviews (while promoting book and years after) actually into the 90s/early 50s! :/. She said wasn't until around the mid 90s did she FULLY feel spiritually complete. Before that was a 'facade of strength' when she truly wasn't there yet :(. Again, the before/after in her demeanor from early interviews-this soo much better and HAPPY to see the contrast!
@@sailingaeolus Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I want to hear what she's saying dammit! That mock jazz playing in the background is hideous! Love love love Christina Crawford, she's shed such positive exposure for child abuse survivors.
I believe every word she wrote. I am thankful she was able to put Joan in the ground. It is the best closure. This kind of abuse tears the children apart. Speaking from experience. When people ask me to recall one happy memory. I do not indulge them. I had to live it . They can’t even survive hearing about it with out some soothing.
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I have read every book Christina wrote, and I reviewed one of them. I think Joan was jealous of her beautiful daughter and couldn’t stand she was getting more attention. That she didn’t care about her daughter being in the hospital is typical of people of NPD. I went through cancer alone because of that same reason. I wonder how her brother died so young, and I am disappointed to hear that. Christina must have been a great comfort to him. All that childhood stress could not have helped.
Celisar1 You clearly have never spoken to Christina, you have clearly never read her books. Nor have you spoken to any of the people that have corroborated her story. Nor have you watched any of the interviews with her about the abuse. Child abuse does exist, and I do volunteer work with abused kids. There is always someone to do deny the abuse happened that knows nothing about the case. If you want to claim that she was jealous of her mother, you should look at some pictures of what Tina look like when she was younger, because she was gorgeous, far better looking than Joan. It is odd that you want to troll someone for feeling compassion for Christina being abused as a child.
Celisar1 It has nothing to do with misogyny. It is about child abuse, and both male and female children are abused. Maybe you should get educated, and volunteered to help some of these kids instead of just trolling people like me.
Celisar1 As far as your asinine question comment about it being “too late,” do you know how many people that are abused by their parents and grow up to need therapy in adulthood, because they are so tragically damaged by the abuse? I get you think it is just hilarious, which Just adds to the problem.
@@Garsons-oq4lh lol I know. I can’t see how or why people don’t question some of the claims after seeing how Christina operates for 45 years. I think people like being victims and not taking any responsibility for their problems.
Giulia De Santis - People disregard her due to the fact that she has changed her story multiple times and a lot of people who actually knew Joan have came out to say that the abuse allegations are rubbish. Joans youngest children have denied that their Mother was ever abusive and were very hurt at the smearing of her name. It is also not disgusting to be sceptical when there are so many others that tell a different story to the narrative that Christine is painting. I
@@thefairhairedboywiththered2951 it's a bit of non sense your comment... the other 2 adopted sisters weren't adopted when Christina and Christopher were abused, there's a significant age gap...and there are proofs of the abuse. It's boring to reply to cliché comments as yours
She used to say in older interviews there were many happy times. Now she is saying people want there to be happy times but when there aren’t life has to go on. The accounts change too often for me to find anything to find consistency in
I was a child the first time I watched Mommy Dearest. As a teen I watched a talk show where an audience member attacked you for shaming your mother publicly. I remember feeling so awful and sad for you. I remembered thinking adults just can't remember the pain and helplessness of being hurt as a child. It must have been so hard to be abused all over again. By bringing this attention to child abuse you've saved so many children and gave them a way out of their situations. You've actually changed the world for the better. It's heartwarming to know you've lead a good life and healed. I know you didn't speak up for revenge but it must be nice to know you surpassed anything your mother ever did with her life. Big hugs
My dear Christina i really feel for you i was emotionality abused so I can relate to the case i admire you you stand for the real thing and want to bring knowledge to the issue and you like to help people you are some survivor you're a strong person God bless you for that
How about explaining this: Christina made the accusation in her book that Joan nearly strangled her to death if not for someone (a woman employee of Joan's) in the house with them that day to stop it. Christina put a name to this woman in her 20th anniversary edition as Billie. At what point on any of Christina's many television interviews did she offer this woman (in person on stage, as a call-in, or even a signed written anything from her) as a witness to corroborate her claim? The answer is not once. There was also not one solo print or television interview from this woman corroborating Christina's claim either. Christina also made no accusation of violence in her court documents contesting Joan's will or in 1960 interviews with Redbook magazine and Mike Wallace.
If I had my mom treat me like that I would of run away from home. Split personality. Your Life is lot's better now had to see two world's glad you found your peace.
Cristina is a hero , after all she has been through she is a happy, beautiful lady inside and out. The presentator seems to be a good hearted person, really seems to be a joy to be around them both!!
I hope that's true! We carry this hurt subconsciously to our deathbed. We can put up a facade but the sheer fact she didn't have children or successful marriages speaks volumes. I PRAY for her full recovery and to learn to trust, because I'm unable to trust.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980 “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina.” **Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@@Garsons-oq4lh There was no "unpublished Interview". Billie Green gave no such interview. it was all made up by that crazy guy who has a jc website. The one who says he talks to Christina everyday! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆
joan was crazy no question about it....all you have to do is think about why she left all her money to charity as opposed to her children...is that the act of a loving parent?
No! you leave your money to your children. Not to charity. I once read when someone leaves money to charity, the people that work for the charity get 1/2 the money and the other 1/2 goes to the charity.
People argue that Christina was disinherited because Joan knew about the book but in fact , Joan disinherited Christopher and Catherine , too . She cared more about her causes than she did the children for sure
She had given both Christina and Christopher considerable help and Christina also received considerable financial help. Joan finally told her she needed to grow up and pay her own way.... Christina didn't like that.... Christina promised Christopher a share of the book earnings if he went along with her exaggerated stories...out of all the money she made she gave him only $10,000. Joan left the twins money and her belongings. Christina was out for herself and the easy money grab...she is still and she was jealous of her mother
Love Christina Crawford....I see that she has done so much with her life and she seem so happy! that's nice to see.. I watched a documentary on Joan Crawford..I read that back in the 40's 50's , that most of MGM actors and actress was not allow to get involved in scandal so they were told if you get involved in personal issues etc..that they could be fire..the studios controlled these actors and actresses..I think they could have helped her..MGM controlled everything..basically any actor who reported Joan Crawford of child abuse. or anything for that matter...could basically be blacklisted from any studio...its terrible ...
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
The movie Mommie Dearest is definitely entitled to a remake. The movie would have to have Christina as the centering character and have Joan almost as a secondary character, but not necessarily a supporting character, and It would have to be played through the eyes of Christina. I think Sofia Vassilieva would be a good contender to play the older Christina and Amy Adams or Anne Hathaway would be good contenders for the role of Joan Crawford.
That is so true Christine yes I have a father who was good to everyone else but too our family not the same abuse, so only people that knew him personally what is the truth so I can understand your pain a lot
Yes. Most likely her mother was a pathological narcissist. I know because mine is, still alive and STILL causing life struggle for anyone within her radar.
In my opinion, the only people who know what really happened between Joan and Christina, are Joan, Christina and God. But many of Joan's friends and co-workers, including Van Johnson, Ann Blyth, Marlene Dietrich, Myrna Loy, Katharine Hepburn, Cesar Romero, Gary Gray, Betty Barker (Joan's secretary for nearly fifty years), Douglas Fairbanks Jr. (Crawford's first husband), and Crawford's other daughters - Cathy and Cindy denounced Christina and the book and categorically denying any abuse. However others including, Betty Hutton, Helen Hayes, James MacArthur (Hayes' son),June Allyson, Liz Smith, Rex Reed, Barbara Stanwyck and Vincent Sherman, the director, stated that they had witnessed abuse. Joan Crawford's secretary, Jeri Binder Smith, confirmed Christina's account. Also Eve Arden who never seemed to have anything negative to say about anyone wrote in her autobiography that Joan was extremely strict and treated her children badly. As I said in my opening sentence, only the ones involved really know what happened.
For those bitching about joan leaving HER MONEY to charity it's was her money to do with it as she pleased. Warren buffet stated he's leaving HIS MONEY to charity - it's his money . The kids didn't earn it... She did in fact leave money to her twin daughters. I have no problem with someone calling somebody out on being an abuser but do it while they are here so you can deal with it. Bette Davis' daughter wrote her book while her mother was still alive. Christina wrote this book after joan was dead. If Christina has gotten over this then why is she still bitching and making money about mommie dearest.
@@eugenekozma2697 I don’t think a lot of people understand just how difficult of a person Christina Crawford was and likely still is to this day -even at 83. She wanted Joans beauty, Joans fame and Joans impact on the American culture. Say what you will about JC and her talent but you cannot deny that she is one of the top five movie stars of the 30s, 40s and even the early 1950s. Just listen to what Myrna Loy has to say about barefoot in the park being put on in Chicago… Christina was so stubborn she would not even follow simple blocking… This is not someone that would succeed in show business and sure enough she did not. The twin girls have confirmed over and over again and that Joan was very strict and not above spanking the children but Christina has really gone out of her way to exaggerate just how violent Joan was. She started writing mommie dearest a year before Joanne passed away. Right when she found out that she would not be included in the will. That’s a very big red flag to me. Joan was even offered a very early draft and refused to spend her last days reading it. Good for her.
I watched a few of BD humans videos. She comes off as very mean and not truthful. I don't find Christine to be mean I just think she's telling her story.
My favourite line in the book was her equating the so called beatings Joan give her with Joan's alcoholism and the "homosexuals Joan surrounded herself with". She's a piece of work.
Don't be so touchy. I am gay myself and that was how we were referred to back then. Trust me, the rude ones would just call us the f word without any hesitation whatsoever.
I’m sure half is exaggerated. My sister made up all this stories still to this day that has some truth but exaggerated completely. Not sure why she had to tell the world about her personal life just to ruin her mothers image. Then again if she didn’t the world would have forgot Joan long ago. Don’t speak bad about the dead is my motto. They can’t defend themselves. Evil.
She keeps milking the Mommie cash cow. There were 3 other children in that household and she kept them conveniently, out of the story. Cindy and Cathy both denied all of Christina's horror stories and said she wrote the book to make money off Joan and to destroy her image. The Twins - they were the ones who Joan kept by her side and on friendly terms with - wonder why!
@@ben_jamin4529 Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980 “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied** **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Y’all should research the anatomy of a pathologically narcissistic mother. There’s the “Golden” child, “Invisible” and “Scapegoat.” A narc mom is highly manipulative.
What I find so shocking are comments under her interview with Larry King , supporting Joan , just because the twins were not as abused like Christina & her brother , THEY WERE BOUGHT.
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.” **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I'm so glad to beat this from most of you. I have a friend who lives not to far from her.. and oh my. .. the things she had said are horrible at bast!!
What Christina is implying that all mothers are abusive. Notice that she is not a mother herself. Her speech is always over analyzing and constantly repeating the same words to get the audiences to believe her story by the movie "Mommy Dearest". It seems that Christina and her mother Joan Crawford didn't get along behind closed doors and the camera. Christina is playing the role of a victim and creates a case scenario that everyone is a victim. That is not always true, in most instances.
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It´s about time for Christina to come to terms with the past... forgiveness is the cure
SHE FORGAVE BACK WHEN SHE WROTE IT , IN FACT EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS EVER DONE WAS FORGIVING HER BECAUSE SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU THINK YOU JUST FOUND OUT . EDUCATE YOURSELF AND WATCH DONAHUE FROM 1978 , WHEN SHE WAS FIRST OUT THERE WITH THE BOOK . SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN INCREDIBLE HEALTHY ABOUT IT . GLAD THAT YOU HAD NICE PARENTS , WHEN YOU HAVE A "MOMMY DEAREST" IT AFFECTS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND YES WE LOVE OUR MOTHERS BECAUSE THATS HOW KIDS FEEL EVEN WHEN THEY ARE TERRBLE ABUSED .
Miguel Mósca I don't care how much soul searching you do or therapy you have - you never forgive. You might sweep it under the carpet and move on - but you never forgive and you certainly never forget. "Oh well they were a sick person." I'm sorry, that doesn't excuse or erase bad behavior. You are responsible for your actions and directly responsible for the other person's feelings or outcome due to your actions. As a child in those days you had no recourse. Now, fortunately, there are laws in place to remove children from abusive homes. But UNfortunately not so much on the mental abuse and that's just as bad if not worse than physical abuse. And I know of what I speak as I am a survivor as well. When you come to terms with the past you realize your past was destroyed and there's no way to ever get it back and it affects your future. It affects your life for many decades until you have lived long enough and secured your own life before you take action. So don't tell me forgiveness is the cure. The cure is being able to have the means to sever those abusive ties and stand up for yourself without the fear of recourse or to be able to handle the recourse. And that only comes with experience. No therapist can teach you that. Once you take charge of your own life - physically, financially, emotionally and mentally - then you can tackle the beast but not until then. We don't get to choose our parents but once we are independent we don't have to accept their bad behavior. Unfortunately a lot of damage is already done by that time. One of Joan's major ailments was Narcissistic Syndrome and a whopper case. Been there - done that - lived it - breathed it - had the t-shirt - didn't like it - burned it.
I have heard/read Christina's interviews before and after her Mother passed away! I do think Joan Crawford was strict ..but she admitted herself she was a bad kid!! Spit on her mother, disrespectful, wanted her own way and refused to listen! Joan Crawford is the one who refused to see her at a certain point later! Not Christina walking away from Joan Crawford! Plus Joan paid her an allowance until she quit a job at MCA that Joan helped her get in the first place, to expand her opportunities to be an actress! So I don't believe she is being completely honest and pretty mean spirited herself!!!
I loved the movie Mommie Dearest with Joan Crawford. I must have seen it over 100 times. I was 9 yrs old when it first came out. I never got to hear why Christina Crawford hated the movie that she wrote about other then the choice of the character that should have played her mother.
What a difference a decade(s) make. In this interview Christina is relaxed and in good humor where viewers see the fully rounded person. It is possible to be a Joan Crawford obsessive and not call Christina a liar. No-one is doing that here. People are multi-faceted and complex. Joan Crawford could be exercising her demons with her daughter one moment and graciously answering her fan mail the next. It has always troubled me that Joan Crawford fans coulld be so single minded as to discredit her daughter with her speaking the truth.What child would make up stories for money or publicity? Grounded is the word for Christina Crawford.
Ugh. How about explaining this: Christina made the accusation in her book that Joan nearly strangled her to death if not for someone (a woman employee of Joan's) in the house with them that day to stop it. Christina put a name to this woman in her 20th anniversary edition as Billie. At what point on any of Christina's many television interviews did she offer this woman (in person on stage, as a call-in, or even a signed written anything from her) as a witness to corroborate her claim? The answer is not once. There was also not one solo print or television interview from this woman corroborating Christina's claim either. Christina also made no accusation of violence in her court documents contesting Joan's will or in 1960 interviews with Redbook magazine and Mike Wallace.
I can't believe I am going to say this, but I actually find this lady quite endearing. I don't know if it is because she has gotten older or the fact that she is so incredibly well-spoken. I am a huge Joan Crawford fan, so I clicked on this interview with a bit of trepidation. In the end, I found that I enjoyed Christina's honesty and well-adjusted, down-to-earth approach to life. However, what most impressed me is the way she does not come off as being bitter in the slightest and even suggests that celebrities ought to be judged on two completely separate planes: their public life and career and their private behavior. Joan was undoubtedly the biggest Hollywood movie star of the twentieth century and her enduring star status is the stuff of legend. However, she was also a highly complicated and conflicted woman. I totally accept that view and indeed embrace it. Christina does not seem to be suggesting that her mother's artistic achievements should be discarded. She is simply saying that there was a highly 'troubled' side to her mother's extremely driven and competitive personal/private life. At this point in time, I think the rational thing to do is to accept that Joan Crawford's iconic legacy includes her daughter Christina's experience and that those two things can coexist side by side. This approach ultimately serves to humanize both perspectives without the need for demonization in either direction. After all, life with any of these Hollywood divas can never be expected to have been easy for anyone involved in either their private or public lives.
A letter from JOAN CRAWFORD to her daughter, CHRISTINA: “Christina dear …I see I cannot trust you any more than I ever could, all of your enthusiasm, your loving attention is surface and as false as ever, you pour it on only to get what you want, and if you think I haven’t recognized that all during our Christmas holiday then you have another thought coming. Your Dad and I both saw it constantly and remarked on it. I really feel sorry for you, you are cheating yourself because you are so artificial, you will never be a warm real human being. You promised if you could come home for Christmas I would see “a new you” you would prove to me you have changed; you haven’t changed one iota Tina; you are as artificial as all that make-up you constantly wear. Obviously, I’m not the only one who thinks so, as Mrs. Chadwick’s letter tells you, all the compliments you received in New York were to make you happy, but you should have heard what people really said-about your temper-your too much make-up-your sophisticated snobbish manners. After you graduate, I’ll have something planned for you till college opens, you are not bringing your qualities into our home again. I will not have the babies subjected to them, and don’t try to tell me you will change because I won’t believe it." This letter was written in early 1956, and demonstrates Christina’s true nature and the actual issues at hand between Joan and Christina. This letter perfectly demonstrates that the real problem wasn’t Joan - it was CHRISTINA. Since the publication of "Mommie Dearest," countless people who knew Christina personally have came forward to describe the exact same person Joan describes in this 1956 letter - including Christina's friends and business associates. *Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied facebook* #ChristinaCrawfordLied
@@Garsons-oq4lh Thanks for sharing that insightful bit of communication between mother and daughter. I often wonder whether in fact the daughter is perhaps playing a bit of a "martyr" in these interviews, or to quote Joan 'pouring it on' for the sake of gaining the audience's sympathy. In the end, to be honest, nothing Christina has ever said has undermined my admiration of Joan in the slightest.
@@Muirmaiden All I said is that there are two sides to every conflict. As Garsons2059 pointed out, there is enough evidence to suggest perhaps the daughter wasn't quite the innocent victim she would have us believe. There are two sides to every conflict, and so far we have only heard Christina's. As I said earlier, my fascination with Joan Crawford has not suffered one bit. Besides, the notion of expecting these stars to be perfect model citizens is silly at best.
@@valsainking The child has no power in those situations, and often this extends to adulthood. Like it or not, parents do have a large part in shaping their children. No child deserves to be mistreated, and no amount of excuses changes that. If you're referring to adult conflicts about people not seeing eye to eye, that's one thing. But when a parent gaslights their children, puts them down, and sabotages them, that is abuse. It doesn't have to be physical. If someone takes accountability for hurting others and makes an effort to change that, of course, that is good, but many abusive people don't ask for help and repeat the same pattern over and over. No one is stopping you from admiring her talent or her work. I enjoy many of her films. There will never be a perfect human being, but there is such a thing as a decent human being, and/or one who makes an effort to change for the better.
"I WASN'T THERE ON THE SCENE DURING THE LIFE OF JOAN AND CHRISTINA, HOWEVER I AM SURE THAT THERE ARE GRAINS IF NOT BUSHELS OF TRUTH IN CHRISTINA'S BOOK! NO ONE CAN BE AS A PERFECT PERSON AS JOAN CRAWFORD WAS!
Elvis’ road manager and friend Joe Esposito told this story about Christina Crawford and why Elvis threw her out of his home: Christina Crawford, who had a bit part in "Wild in the Country," came up to the house one night, She's Joan Crawford's adopted daughter, Elvis was smoking cigars that night, and every time he'd take one out, I would start to light it for him, and Christina would reach out and grab it and break it, Elvis said, "Don't do that, that's not funny." and he picked up another one, but when I went to light it…again..she broke it. Elvis said, "I've asked you nicely." She said, "Well, he shouldn't have to light your cigars" and Elvis said, "Look he works for me goddammit” But she did it a third time, and boy Elvis got mad. They got into a barrage of words. Elvis said, "Look you bitch--" and Christina threw a drink in his face. He stopped a minute and then he said "I'm going to eliminate this problem." He got up and stepped on the top of this five by six marble coffee table we had and grabbed her by her ponytail and dragged her across the damn table out of the room to the door and threw her out. Elvis said “ never let her back in here!” Christina was dating one of the security guards at that time too and at some point Christina was able to come back so she could apologize to Elvis. ~ Is it true? You be the judge.
I have no doubt that Christina suffered in her childhood under Joan Crawford but she's said a few things here and in previous interviews that are utter, self-aggrandizing bullshit. She claims that there were no therapy modalities for treatment of childhood abuse until she helped to create them-really?? That's ridiculous. Also claims that there was no awareness of child abuse until her book came out-simply preposterous claims. She's a bit of a nut job.
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NEVER play music while you're interviewing someone. It's SO distracting.
you said it
VERRRRRY good point!
Absolutely. It was so distracting!!
It’s awful.
Yes, it is. Thank you, for saying that!
Unless you have lived it, you may not believe it. But there are indeed some mothers like that out there. Not just movie stars.
Christina Crawford may sound too polished at times, almost mechanical. But what she says makes perfect sense. Being raised to model your parents, seeing a reflection of yourself in their eyes, that is completely out of sync with the person you really are, and being terrorized by their every desire and whim and obsession. The child may still love their parent in spite of this and can survive, but there is terrible trauma, and it may take a lifetime to make sense of what happened and find a sense of inner peace.
Exactly! I lived it so I have always believed her.
@@NJG0516 The Logic of Christina Crawford Believers:
I believe Christina Crawford!
I was abused as a child, and despite that abuse occurring in a totally 'different' household, by totally 'different' people and in a totally 'different' decade, my story PROVES Joan Crawford abused her children!
Joan Crawford's other children(Cathy and Cindy)'s stories DO NOT count! It doesn't matter that they were raised by the 'same' mother, in the 'same' household, and during the 'same' era! I know the truth because I was abused.
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Plus she has explained this a million times.
Very articulate.
People who go through what she did are very polished and mechanical because they’ve had so much time to reflect and process their life.
And fathers too!
The only reason some people defend Joan Crawford is because she was famous. If she wasn't, no one would be complaining about her "image" being tarnished or say that Christina should be "grateful" to have been adopted. It's the parent's responsibility to provide food, shelter, clothing, education and love for a child - basic human rights. If this involved ordinary citizens, guaranteed no one would be defending the abuser.
I agree. I always believed Christina. No one will ever know what happened or how much was exaggerated. But people tend to have this mindset that certain people (especially the rich and famous ) are beyond criticism and can't do any wrong. You see this type of attitude even among "ordinary " people ; someone that is well -educated and financially well off is more likely to be put on a pedestal. I get some of what Christina's detractors are saying , such as asking why Christina wrote the book after Joan's death .
There are legitimate questions . On at least 2 or 3 occasions Christiana has appeared to contradict herself a little , but I've always believed her. But , had it been someone other than Joan Crawford who had been written about and accused of abuse , no one would've cared or defended the person.
@@michellee2990 feelings change as we deal with the terror inflicted upon us. So, I don't think she contradicted herself at any time. It is so very confusing to feel love and fear for and about a person that we should have trusted to keep us safe. Mind- boggling. That is why so many victims cannot accurately articulate thought and feelings without the right guidance. Some suffer all their lives. The lucky ones do get past it and understand and forgive. Oh but the road is rough
People defend Joan Crawford due to the fact that Christine’s version of events is hotly disputed by people that actually knew Joan Crawford, including Joan’s youngest children , who denied that there was any abuse and were extremely upset at the smearing of their mother.
@@thefairhairedboywiththered2951 Abusers don't necessarily mistreat everyone they come into contact with. That cannot be stressed enough. It's not uncommon for them to target certain people and not others. You can't disregard abuse just because other people had a different experience. There also tends to be a high level of denial where abuse is concerned, especially in families. Gaslighting and Stockholm Syndrome is common as well. Christopher, in the only interview that he ever granted in his lifetime, confirmed that he was also abused.
@@Muirmaiden In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953.
When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school.
Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978.
During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident.
In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book.
That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time.
Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.”
Above is an excerpt from the ChristinaCrawfordLied facebook.
She is well spoken, intelligent and very perceptive. I thank her for her strength, courage and bringing attention to parental abuse, God Bless you Christina Crawford!
+solemandd67 The lady seems sincere enough. I liked the interview. The background music was surprisingly pleasant as well.
solemandd67 She is extremely intelligent and well spoken. I've watched interviews with her simply because I like hearing her talk. She's articulate and spontaneous as hell. See interview with Larry King live. Above all else, she is an overcomer.
Agree! The hell she went through!!
@@dianeallen6330 Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Good job on this interview. I remember way back when when I attended a conference on PTSD for a psychology credit in college. I believe Christina Crawford helped organize the whole event--gosh, I hate to admit how long ago that was...I think I might not have survived without her. I hope she sticks around for a while, because given the political climate in America, it's clear we still need her to educate people about narcissism, bullying, and thinking for oneself (especially when it comes to speaking out against child abuse). Thanks again for this interview.
What an excellent interview and an incredible woman!! The only reason I would not give it 5 stars would be the annoying soundtrack!! Why is there bouncy jazz playing in the background? It is so incredibly distracting...had to rewind more than once to focus on what she was saying because of it. Otherwise, the interviewer and guest were superb.
The music is so intrusive. The interview would be so much better without.
Christina Crawford is an incredible soul, woman whom I have tremendous respect for and gratitude to her. She opened the door, awakened the world to a serious problem that needed to be "outed" and addressed. She paved the way and because of her, all her work, efforts and perseverance the world is and continues to be a better place, not only for children but for adults who need help, need to get help. I have such respect, admiration and gratitude for this incredible woman.
Totally agree!
Yet today in 2022 there are MORE HORRIFIC reporting's of ABUSE BY PARENTS, now murdering their own children.
I agree.
God bless her!!
@@dianeallen6330 yes God bless her.
I hope Nelson has nightmares every night of Mommie Dearest waking him up in the middle of the night beating him screaming.. "NO...BACKGROUND......MUSIC.....EVERRR!!!!!
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I have a narcissistic mother!! I believe everything she's saying.
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953.
When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school.
Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978.
During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident.
In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book.
That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time.
Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.”
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I 100% believe her. My mom was a drunk and I experienced these "night raids" as well. I'll never forget the time I had just cleaned my room and my mom came in to check after me and she started throwing everything from my desk and dressers onto the floor while telling me to clean it up. It was the most confusing thing, and it part of the reason I have cptsd.
#ChristinaCrawfordLied
Why are you making this about you?
@@dickiegreenleaf750 because I relate to her story you fucking jerk. Fuck off
@@dickiegreenleaf750 this is what all of her supporters do. Well never know how much of Christina’s story is true but the fact that she takes zero responsibility for any of her life is a big tell for me. She even blames Joan for the stroke she had a few years ago.
Now it’s fashionable to be a perpetual victim and boy do these folks like to project.
@@calebcostigan2561 please seek psychological help ASAP. Take care
This shitty background music wakes up the Joan in me!
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Tell me about it!! 😠
I'm gonna take a wire hanger to that groove😂😂
I am so much in love with Christina Crawford. She is so well mannered, so articulate, so inspirational. She is such a class act. I absolutely love her.
Me too.
Christina had the right to tell her story of abuse regardless of who her mother was. She maintains that her mother was a brilliant actress. She always has. And that she loved her mother. Joan Crawford doesn't deserve to get away with abusing her children. Oh, so many people hate it that her image has been tarnished. Get over it. She abused those children behind closed doors. It was high time someone said NO MORE SECRETS!
She has changed her story one too many times. She took a lot of content out for the re release of her novel. It's a different book now compared to the 1978 version. She's basically a fiction writer. My aunt went to one of her xmas parties that she holds in Idaho and she was handing out decorated wire hangers to everyone who came. I was disgusted when my aunt told me. Making fun of her abuse? Who does that..as a victim myself, I would advocate for the cause if i was in her positions instead of acting the way she is and hanging out with drag queens at parties. She's living off her dead mother. Her husband even left her because he couldn't stand it.
665kk Is there any victim who hasn't found out more from their story as time goes on?
I don't agree with what she did at that Christmas party. I think she has a lot of anger that she won't admit to. But after a childhood of abuse, which can seem like a life time of prison, I'm sure there are times when you want to shout it from the roofs! Again, I don't care who her mother is. And yes, Christina has profited from telling her story and she has used a lot of this money to help other victims. I don't mind that Joan is paying for what she did. She should have when she was alive. There are a lot of "Hollywood" people who claim the abuse to be true but even if only Christina did, I would still believe her.
Rachel A. A.
She didn't find any more from her story..She actually took a lot of the bad things out for the recent re release and added some things about her going to university (which Joan paid for btw) and how her career was. It doesn't even focuses on the alleged abuse anymore. What "Hollywood" people saw it happen? Because the "Hollywood" people who were actually close to Joan say the abuse never happened. People like Myrna Loy, who knew Joan from 1925-1977, and actually worked with Christina in a production of "Barefoot in the Park" had this to say (if there’s someone with the cleanest moral integrity, decency, and kind heart that was Myrna Loy. And she was completely shocked by Tina’s claims. She knew pre-fame Joan (that’s the closest you can get to the truth). She doesn’t romanticize Joan either she admitted Joan was an alcoholic and an ambitious woman.): "I can tell you that when you made a friend in Joan you had a friend for life. She never forgot your birthday, and you'd get a congratulatory note from her when good things happened in your life. She cared about people and her friends, no matter what anybody says. I liked her, and I miss her, and her daughter's stories are pure bunk. Even if they were true, If ever there was a girl who needed a good whack it was spoiled, horrible Christina. Believe me, there were many times I wanted to smack her myself." | "We didn't have any problems in "Barefoot" until Christina Crawford appeared. I've never known anybody else like her--ever. Her stubbornness was really unbelievable. She would not do a single thing that anybody told her to do. You'd go out there on the stage and you couldn't find her. One thing an actor needs to know is exactly where people are on the stage. Christina completely disregarded her blocking, throwing the rest of us off....She was going to do it her way. It was self-defeating and sad, because the girl had potential". | "She wanted to be Joan Crawford. I think that's the basis of the book she wrote afterward and everything else. I saw what her mind created, the fantasy world she lived in. She envied her mother, grew to hate her, and wanted to destroy her." |
665kk Oh I get it. This is personal. You knew the other face of Joan so you don't want to believe this was possible. Do you know the statistics of how many people are wonderful to everyone else and then behind closed doors abuse their children? And just because Christina wasn't perfect you act as though it couldn't have happened. Maybe she behaved that way because she was acting out. Abuse victims can have bad behavior sometimes, just like everybody else. I am through with people like you! Maybe child abuse would stop if the ignorance and blindness would!
Rachel A. A.
I don't think an abuse victim such as myself would defend an abuser if I didn't have a strong idea that the "victim" in the situation was lying. Joan wasn't a perfect parent; she said so herself. But strict doesn't mean abusive. Joan said she wasn't there for her kids enough because of work. Lucille Ball said the exact same, so did Barbara Stanwyck about her own parenting. But I don't go attacking them because they say those things. And I don't go attacking a deceased person over a book that her daughter was too cowardly to release when her mother was alive. I don't believe the things Dion has said about Barbara Stanwyck either because it's so one sided and cowardly too. It's not like BD Hyman with Bette Davis. Oh well, call me ignorant but if I ever meet Christina i'll let her know what abuse really is.
I believe you, Christina.
Wonderful interview by a kind and empathetic man.
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953.
When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school.
Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978.
During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident.
In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book.
That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time.
Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.”
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. What's the issue? Oh right its because there couldn't be the slightest possibility whatsoever that Christina lied about certain details like being strangled could there? And I'm not doubting there wasn't an issue between the two women at all.
I agree kingofgrace
@@Garsons-oq4lh no one believes you. 🙊
I always enjoy watching Christina Crawford's interviews and I do believe her.
Me too.
She is a witty and corageous woman! I believe her too!
@@Darrigrande 😂😂😂
I believe her. There is a channel Christina Crawford Lied that posts videos accusing Christina of lying, deletes comments who have a different opinion.
Stay AWAY from them.
I personally believe Christina. I believe most of what she said is true - she was ABUSED imo the twins weren't. I have a Mother who was much like Joan.
Bipolar Narcissistic crazy. You'd be surprised but there are MANY Mothers out there that are are exactly like this.
There are LOTS of abusive parents that exist unfortunately. Many many of them
STOP THAT MUSIC
1212matt YOU MUST HAVE COPD
This was so very insightful. Incredible Nelson. You asked everything I wanted to know the answer to.
Yes this was a delightful interview.
I love Christina for all she has done for speaking up.I feel so sad for Christopher and wish his side was known though it's understandable.People don't know how debilitating abuse ruins lives and some people have a harder time functioning.
In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953.
When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school.
Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978.
During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident.
In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book.
That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time.
Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.”
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I agree Denise.
I think it's so wonderful how she's turned her life into something positive and fun and all the strength that must have taken to do that. I think she's lovely. Thank you Christina for being so brave through all the hardships. You're a wonderful example of healing through transparency and sharing your story. Lovely 💕🌼🍃
this music sucks makes me want to hurl my computer across the room
This was another great episode! A lot of insight into the story. Nelson is a brilliant interviewer! Watch @Nelson's! every Friday. All episodes have been great! :)
I believe her.
I do to it makes me so when when everyone agrees with Joan why
@@jermainejones6149 In Christina Crawford’s memoir Mommie Dearest she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953.
When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had “a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory.” After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school.
Christina published Mommie Dearest in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford’s estate in February 1978.
During her UNDER-OATH, court ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: “I don’t know what you are referring to,” and continues to evade the questions regarding the incident.
In addition to Christina’s complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book.
That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, she was Joan’s assistant at the time.
Greene stated in her unpublished interview: “I believe I’m quoted as saying ‘Stop, you’ll kill her.” I can tell you that I’ve never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night.”
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I believe her to I bet u if Joan was black they would not be taking up for her
@@jermainejones6149 Following Joan Crawford’s death in May 1977, her will bequeathed a large portion of her assets to several worthy charities. Among them were: The Muscular Dystrophy Association, the American Cancer Society and the Motion Picture Country Home, which is a nursing home that provides care to the indigent who could not afford care.
Christina was infamously disinherited in Joan Crawford’s will. As a result, Christina attempted to void Crawford’s will, and thereby STRIP these charities of the MUCH-NEEDED financial resources that Joan Crawford had bequeathed to them. Christina did this in the interest of her own GREEDY benefit.
As a result of Christina’s actions against Joan Crawford’s estate, these charities had to PAY for legal representation during the two-year court battle, thus draining funds from the charities' budgets.
In the end, Joan Crawford’s estate settled with Christina Crawford, and her brother, Christopher, in the amount of $55,000, which was to be divided between both siblings.
Christina Crawford later claimed she only contested Joan Crawford’s will for her brother’s financial benefit. However, here are some FACTS regarding Christina’s TRUE interest in her brother’s financial well-being:
Of the $55,000 estate settlement, Christina claims to have given all of it to her brother. This is FALSE. More than HALF of the $55,000 was first paid to Christina’s attorney, who was representing her interest in the publication of her book “Mommie Dearest.” Therefore, LESS than half of the funds were actual given to Christopher. The LARGER bulk was paid to Christina’s attorney for HER benefit.
Christina Crawford’s “Mommie Dearest” was a best-selling book. From the MILLIONS of dollars she made in proceeds from the book's sells, she gave her brother, Christopher, only $10,000 for his rights.
Christina sold the film rights for $280,000 (according to Christina). Other sources cite the sell of the film rights for $500,000. From this sell, Christina gave her brother NOTHING.
Christina NEVER contributed any proceeds from the sell of her book to ANY child abuse organization, or other charity. Nor has Christina Crawford EVER volunteered her time or resources to ANY such organization or charity. Any connection Christina had with such charity was a PAID spokesperson position.
Christina later admitted that she and her husband, David Koontz, spent all of this money within only SIX years, and she was BROKE by 1985.
THIS is who Christina Crawford is. She is NOT a victim. She is NOT a survivor. She is a DISGUSTING, GREEDY, LIAR.
A child with muscular dystrophy IS a survivor. A person battling cancer IS a survivor. An elderly person struggling IS a survivor. Christina Crawford attempted to, wrongly, obtain the needed resources of these TRUE survivors.
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied on facebook.*
I don’t.
Actually this is a more refreshing interview: no junk and just speaking of the reality of a bad parent yet magnificent movie star
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I had a Dad who did to me some of what happened to her. And I wondered how she coped with all this criscoam and victim blaming. I thought, that cannot have always been easy. Takes some courage and maturity and wherewithal to handle that.
Wow suuch a different more vibrant, *happier, secure person than the interviews she did in the 70s and 80s. Like SHE admitted herself was still in a LOT of pain/trauma during those interviews (while promoting book and years after) actually into the 90s/early 50s! :/. She said wasn't until around the mid 90s did she FULLY feel spiritually complete. Before that was a 'facade of strength' when she truly wasn't there yet :(. Again, the before/after in her demeanor from early interviews-this soo much better and HAPPY to see the contrast!
YES. It really is obvious she was abused and is recovering.
@@sailingaeolus Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
I am so happy that she looks happy that she was able to overcome child abuse
She looks so happy because of the money she made out of the caracass of that poor woman
She deserved to earn it , Joan Crawford was a nasty vindictive woman. @@anearthlinganecdotes6098
WONDERFUL INTERVIEW!! WELL DONE!!!
I agree.
I want to hear what she's saying dammit! That mock jazz playing in the background is hideous! Love love love Christina Crawford, she's shed such positive exposure for child abuse survivors.
I believe every word she wrote. I am thankful she was able to put Joan in the ground. It is the best closure. This kind of abuse tears the children apart. Speaking from experience. When people ask me to recall one happy memory. I do not indulge them. I had to live it . They can’t even survive hearing about it with out some soothing.
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Thank you for sharing skidmark
And what happened with Christina’s brother?
I simply cannot watch it because of the most annoying music.
It's hard to imagine the rigid, robotic lady in the 1978 Phil Donahue interview laughing. I'm glad she's happy, success is the best revenge.
Success is a relative term. Joan Crawford died with 2 million in the bank. Christina is still out there hustling off stories from her childhood.
@@calebcostigan2561 not at all. She's retired and worth
$4 million. Not bad.😍😍😍
I have read every book Christina wrote, and I reviewed one of them.
I think Joan was jealous of her beautiful daughter and couldn’t stand she was getting more attention.
That she didn’t care about her daughter being in the hospital is typical of people of NPD.
I went through cancer alone because of that same reason.
I wonder how her brother died so young, and I am disappointed to hear that.
Christina must have been a great comfort to him.
All that childhood stress could not have helped.
Phyllis Pollack
It’s the old misogynistic cliche of female jealousy....
Doesn’t fit at all but keep trying 🙄
Celisar1 You clearly have never spoken to Christina, you have clearly never read her books.
Nor have you spoken to any of the people that have corroborated her story.
Nor have you watched any of the interviews with her about the abuse.
Child abuse does exist, and I do volunteer work with abused kids. There is always someone to do deny the abuse happened that knows nothing about the case.
If you want to claim that she was jealous of her mother, you should look at some pictures of what Tina look like when she was younger, because she was gorgeous, far better looking than Joan.
It is odd that you want to troll someone for feeling compassion for Christina being abused as a child.
Phyllis Pollack
Don’t be ridiculous.
Ehm,.... too late.
Celisar1 It has nothing to do with misogyny. It is about child abuse, and both male and female children are abused.
Maybe you should get educated, and volunteered to help some of these kids instead of just trolling people like me.
Celisar1
As far as your asinine question comment about it being “too late,” do you know how many people that are abused by their parents and grow up to need therapy in adulthood, because they are so tragically damaged by the abuse?
I get you think it is just hilarious, which Just adds to the problem.
Her articulation proves truth
Yes she is articulate and truthful.
@@eugenekozma2697 truthful...ok😂
@@Garsons-oq4lh lol I know. I can’t see how or why people don’t question some of the claims after seeing how Christina operates for 45 years. I think people like being victims and not taking any responsibility for their problems.
@@calebcostigan2561 your anger and frustration is misdirected . Find out what your trauma is and who did it to you and begin there. I wish you well
LOVE HER . SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO LOVELY .
I agree.
Yes and I believe every damn word she says as I went thru similar
It's disgusting that there are still people who disregard her, and don't believe the truth of abuse...
Giulia De Santis - People disregard her due to the fact that she has changed her story multiple times and a lot of people who actually knew Joan have came out to say that the abuse allegations are rubbish. Joans youngest children have denied that their Mother was ever abusive and were very hurt at the smearing of her name. It is also not disgusting to be sceptical when there are so many others that tell a different story to the narrative that Christine is painting. I
@@thefairhairedboywiththered2951 it's a bit of non sense your comment... the other 2 adopted sisters weren't adopted when Christina and Christopher were abused, there's a significant age gap...and there are proofs of the abuse. It's boring to reply to cliché comments as yours
She used to say in older interviews there were many happy times. Now she is saying people want there to be happy times but when there aren’t life has to go on. The accounts change too often for me to find anything to find consistency in
This was my life at the hands of my stepmother the evil stepmother..it haunts me..this movie bothered me so much I can relate.
Exactly the same for me with my Mum. Horrible upbringing and shocking how common it is. I hope you found your happy since.
I was a child the first time I watched Mommy Dearest. As a teen I watched a talk show where an audience member attacked you for shaming your mother publicly. I remember feeling so awful and sad for you. I remembered thinking adults just can't remember the pain and helplessness of being hurt as a child. It must have been so hard to be abused all over again. By bringing this attention to child abuse you've saved so many children and gave them a way out of their situations. You've actually changed the world for the better. It's heartwarming to know you've lead a good life and healed. I know you didn't speak up for revenge but it must be nice to know you surpassed anything your mother ever did with her life. Big hugs
My dear Christina i really feel for you i was emotionality abused so I can relate to the case i admire you you stand for the real thing and want to bring knowledge to the issue and you like to help people you are some survivor you're a strong person God bless you for that
Well said.
How about explaining this:
Christina made the accusation in her book that Joan nearly strangled her to death if not for someone (a woman employee of Joan's) in the house with them that day to stop it. Christina put a name to this woman in her 20th anniversary edition as Billie. At what point on any of Christina's many television interviews did she offer this woman (in person on stage, as a call-in, or even a signed written anything from her) as a witness to corroborate her claim? The answer is not once.
There was also not one solo print or television interview from this woman corroborating Christina's claim either.
Christina also made no accusation of violence in her court documents contesting Joan's will or in 1960 interviews with Redbook magazine and Mike Wallace.
If I had my mom treat me like that I would of run away from home. Split personality. Your Life is lot's better now had to see two world's glad you found your peace.
This woman knows what she's talking about
I agree.
Ohhhhh brother on that damn music playing in the background... It is just not fitting... WTH OR WTF lol
Cristina is a hero , after all she has been through she is a happy, beautiful lady inside and out. The presentator seems to be a good hearted person, really seems to be a joy to be around them both!!
I hope that's true! We carry this hurt subconsciously to our deathbed. We can put up a facade but the sheer fact she didn't have children or successful marriages speaks volumes. I PRAY for her full recovery and to learn to trust, because I'm unable to trust.
I believe Christina because I had a daddy Dearest I know exactly what she went through
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980
“I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina.”
**Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@@Garsons-oq4lh There was no "unpublished Interview". Billie Green gave no such interview. it was all made up by that crazy guy who has a jc website. The one who says he talks to Christina everyday! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆
@@SunsetBoulevard111Show where he made it up?
joan was crazy no question about it....all you have to do is think about why she left all her money to charity as opposed to her children...is that the act of a loving parent?
No! you leave your money to your children. Not to charity. I once read when someone leaves money to charity, the people that work for the charity get 1/2 the money and the other 1/2 goes to the charity.
Iwanta Fennec
And nothing to her elder children.
People argue that Christina was disinherited because Joan knew about the book but in fact , Joan disinherited Christopher and Catherine , too .
She cared more about her causes than she did the children for sure
@@lindaeasley4336
You've missed the plot. Joan cared about socking it to her children.
She had given both Christina and Christopher considerable help and Christina also received considerable financial help. Joan finally told her she needed to grow up and pay her own way.... Christina didn't like that.... Christina promised Christopher a share of the book earnings if he went along with her exaggerated stories...out of all the money she made she gave him only $10,000.
Joan left the twins money and her belongings. Christina was out for herself and the easy money grab...she is still and she was jealous of her mother
She went through hell. I wish her well.❣️
she still is in hell cäuse she still ride the horse insteäd jumping up änd set herself free.
Omg! She’s 80 now.... get over it
You just said it, she through Hell and she will not do well! Through her eyes.
I enjoyed this interview.
Love Christina Crawford....I see that she has done so much with her life and she seem so happy! that's nice to see.. I watched a documentary on Joan Crawford..I read that back in the 40's 50's , that most of MGM actors and actress was not allow to get involved in scandal so they were told if you get involved in personal issues etc..that they could be fire..the studios controlled these actors and actresses..I think they could have helped her..MGM controlled everything..basically any actor who reported Joan Crawford of child abuse. or anything for that matter...could basically be blacklisted from any studio...its terrible ...
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Oh yes! I love "@Nelson's!"
Great interview man!!
Tell me this is an ongoing series
I believe her because I had a daddy Dearest
Loved Christina interview!
What a lovely women. thanks for this.
She is lovely christina crawford.i enjoyed the interview.
The movie Mommie Dearest is definitely entitled to a remake. The movie would have to have Christina as the centering character and have Joan almost as a secondary character, but not necessarily a supporting character, and It would have to be played through the eyes of Christina. I think Sofia Vassilieva would be a good contender to play the older Christina and Amy Adams or Anne Hathaway would be good contenders for the role of Joan Crawford.
That would have been so weird and scary seeing a middle aged Joan playing her young TV character from her hospital bed, how bizarre 😳
Love Christina!
That is so true Christine yes I have a father who was good to everyone else but too our family not the same abuse, so only people that knew him personally what is the truth so I can understand your pain a lot
Yes. Most likely her mother was a pathological narcissist. I know because mine is, still alive and STILL causing life struggle for anyone within her radar.
I love this woman!
I love christina crawford too.
Ah man! The background music made this virtually unwatchable, the competing sound scrambled everything. What a gem of an interview!
Great interview but the music in the background is just awful
Love Christina! Love her laugh! She is indeed a survivor!
Great interview . . . but why play background music throughout the interview? Super distracting.
In my opinion, the only people who know what really happened between Joan and Christina, are Joan, Christina and God. But many of Joan's friends and co-workers, including Van Johnson, Ann Blyth, Marlene Dietrich, Myrna Loy, Katharine Hepburn, Cesar Romero, Gary Gray, Betty Barker (Joan's secretary for nearly fifty years), Douglas Fairbanks Jr. (Crawford's first husband), and Crawford's other daughters - Cathy and Cindy denounced Christina and the book and categorically denying any abuse. However others including, Betty Hutton, Helen Hayes, James MacArthur (Hayes' son),June Allyson, Liz Smith, Rex Reed, Barbara Stanwyck and Vincent Sherman, the director, stated that they had witnessed abuse. Joan Crawford's secretary, Jeri Binder Smith, confirmed Christina's account. Also Eve Arden who never seemed to have anything negative to say about anyone wrote in her autobiography that Joan was extremely strict and treated her children badly. As I said in my opening sentence, only the ones involved really know what happened.
For those bitching about joan leaving HER MONEY to charity it's was her money to do with it as she pleased. Warren buffet stated he's leaving HIS MONEY to charity - it's his money . The kids didn't earn it... She did in fact leave money to her twin daughters. I have no problem with someone calling somebody out on being an abuser but do it while they are here so you can deal with it. Bette Davis' daughter wrote her book while her mother was still alive. Christina wrote this book after joan was dead. If Christina has gotten over this then why is she still bitching and making money about mommie dearest.
+countess77 Exactly.She was jealous of her own adopted mother.This is obvious.She is obsessed with Joan.
how us it obvious? Do elaborate!
I have never heard anything from Christina to even remotely suggest she was jealous of Joan Crawford.
Oh please. There were just as many that said they witnessed it first hand.
I love Christina Crawford so much.
I love christina crawford too.
I love Joan Crawford and think she should have sent Christina back.
@@calebcostigan2561 she bought christina.joan crawford was a dirty lawbreaker.christina deserved better.
@@eugenekozma2697 I don’t think a lot of people understand just how difficult of a person Christina Crawford was and likely still is to this day -even at 83.
She wanted Joans beauty, Joans fame and Joans impact on the American culture. Say what you will about JC and her talent but you cannot deny that she is one of the top five movie stars of the 30s, 40s and even the early 1950s.
Just listen to what Myrna Loy has to say about barefoot in the park being put on in Chicago… Christina was so stubborn she would not even follow simple blocking… This is not someone that would succeed in show business and sure enough she did not.
The twin girls have confirmed over and over again and that Joan was very strict and not above spanking the children but Christina has really gone out of her way to exaggerate just how violent Joan was.
She started writing mommie dearest a year before Joanne passed away. Right when she found out that she would not be included in the will. That’s a very big red flag to me.
Joan was even offered a very early draft and refused to spend her last days reading it. Good for her.
@@eugenekozma2697 Joan Crawford a dirty lawbreaker? What do you mean… Abuse, alcoholism, drugs…?
I like her better than Bette's daughter, B.D. Hyman.
I watched a few of BD humans videos. She comes off as very mean and not truthful. I don't find Christine to be mean I just think she's telling her story.
Drop the music because it took alot from the interview.
The Lindsey Lohan comment was cheap not sassy.
Love Christina 🥰
So sorry, Christina.
Something very unsettling about CC going on stage and making fun of JC with wire hangers, etc.
That background music is annoying!
The music has the go .
Wow father Time sure caught up with Christina! Bless her tho .she is an icon for sure.
Cool interview. I do want to comment on the background music, it is really unnecessary for such a great interview. Regards and keep up the good work!
The music in the background is very irritating and takes your attention from what's being said. I gave up long before the end for this reason.
My favourite line in the book was her equating the so called beatings Joan give her with Joan's alcoholism and the "homosexuals Joan surrounded herself with". She's a piece of work.
Don't be so touchy. I am gay myself and that was how we were referred to back then. Trust me, the rude ones would just call us the f word without any hesitation whatsoever.
@@ashashraa6579 well
The background music is competing with the interview.
Just the fact they were required to refer to Joan as Mommy dearest is rather odd
Something makes me doubt her one sided story.
A great lady! I hope she's ok now. Where is she these days?
I’m sure half is exaggerated. My sister made up all this stories still to this day that has some truth but exaggerated completely. Not sure why she had to tell the world about her personal life just to ruin her mothers image. Then again if she didn’t the world would have forgot Joan long ago. Don’t speak bad about the dead is my motto. They can’t defend themselves. Evil.
She's so serious here ... I liked her much better when she played Seinfeld's mother.
why would there be background music during this interview? It's horrible and almost impossible to listen to the interview
She keeps milking the Mommie cash cow. There were 3 other children in that household and she kept them conveniently, out of the story. Cindy and Cathy both denied all of Christina's horror stories and said she wrote the book to make money off Joan and to destroy her image. The Twins - they were the ones who Joan kept by her side and on friendly terms with - wonder why!
Probably because Joan was more stable during that period? I think it's really gross when people defend well know abusers...
@@ben_jamin4529 Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980
“I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
Y’all should research the anatomy of a pathologically narcissistic mother. There’s the “Golden” child, “Invisible” and “Scapegoat.”
A narc mom is highly manipulative.
What I find so shocking are comments under her interview with Larry King , supporting Joan , just because the twins were not as abused like Christina & her brother , THEY WERE BOUGHT.
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953.
Here is how she describes this incident in her book:
"The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness."
This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days."
This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation:
"I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal."
This claim is medically impossible. Busies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks.
By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation.
In "Survivor" Christina writes:
"In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke"
This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a unpublished at the time interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina.
Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview: “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina. When Christina was at Chadwicks, she would tell some lies. Like the lengths Joan would go through to see that she had everything to get back to school. Shoes, dresses, etc. I don’t know what Christina would do with them between Brentwood and school, but she would arrive with a couple of beat up, old dresses and the call would come from Chadwicks. “Couldn’t you send this girl one decent thing to wear?” I got Christina in my office one day and said, “Christina, what did you do? All those things we picked out and packed and got ready for you that you chose?” She said, “I gave them to my friends,” and I said, “What does this do? Make you a hero with your friends?” and she said, “No, I just wanted to.” I said, “Don’t you know what you do to your mother when you make her look cruel and evil and selfish?” and she said, “No, it’s just something I like to do. I like to give my clothes away.” On more than one occasion I found Christina to be an opportunist, dishonest and distorting everything, every single actions of her mother.”
**ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@@Garsons-oq4lh yawn ZZZZZzzzz
I'm so glad to beat this from most of you. I have a friend who lives not to far from her.. and oh my. .. the things she had said are horrible at bast!!
Diana Wilson
Sure, sure... 🤦♂️
I remembered watching the episode with Joan Crawford it was ridiculous because she was so much older than Christina
She wanted children but what she really wanted were two dolls. What an ego driving control freak JC was.
#ChristinaCrawfordLied
Happy birthday christina crawford.
What Christina is implying that all mothers are abusive. Notice that she is not a mother herself. Her speech is always over analyzing and constantly repeating the same words to get the audiences to believe her story by the movie "Mommy Dearest". It seems that
Christina and her mother Joan Crawford didn't get along behind closed doors and the camera. Christina is playing the role of a victim and creates a case scenario that everyone is a victim. That is not always true, in most instances.
It´s about time for Christina to come to terms with the past... forgiveness is the cure
SHE FORGAVE BACK WHEN SHE WROTE IT , IN FACT EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS EVER DONE WAS FORGIVING HER BECAUSE SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU THINK YOU JUST FOUND OUT . EDUCATE YOURSELF AND WATCH DONAHUE FROM 1978 , WHEN SHE WAS FIRST OUT THERE WITH THE BOOK . SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN INCREDIBLE HEALTHY ABOUT IT . GLAD THAT YOU HAD NICE PARENTS , WHEN YOU HAVE A "MOMMY DEAREST" IT AFFECTS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND YES WE LOVE OUR MOTHERS BECAUSE THATS HOW KIDS FEEL EVEN WHEN THEY ARE TERRBLE ABUSED .
Miguel Mósca I don't care how much soul searching you do or therapy you have - you never forgive. You might sweep it under the carpet and move on - but you never forgive and you certainly never forget. "Oh well they were a sick person." I'm sorry, that doesn't excuse or erase bad behavior. You are responsible for your actions and directly responsible for the other person's feelings or outcome due to your actions. As a child in those days you had no recourse. Now, fortunately, there are laws in place to remove children from abusive homes. But UNfortunately not so much on the mental abuse and that's just as bad if not worse than physical abuse. And I know of what I speak as I am a survivor as well. When you come to terms with the past you realize your past was destroyed and there's no way to ever get it back and it affects your future. It affects your life for many decades until you have lived long enough and secured your own life before you take action. So don't tell me forgiveness is the cure. The cure is being able to have the means to sever those abusive ties and stand up for yourself without the fear of recourse or to be able to handle the recourse. And that only comes with experience. No therapist can teach you that. Once you take charge of your own life - physically, financially, emotionally and mentally - then you can tackle the beast but not until then. We don't get to choose our parents but once we are independent we don't have to accept their bad behavior. Unfortunately a lot of damage is already done by that time. One of Joan's major ailments was Narcissistic Syndrome and a whopper case. Been there - done that - lived it - breathed it - had the t-shirt - didn't like it - burned it.
seywhut2985 your right forgiveness is a walk. I know that for sure and forgiving is for you it's not excusing what the perpetrator did to you.
I have heard/read Christina's interviews before and after her Mother passed away! I do think Joan Crawford was strict ..but she admitted herself she was a bad kid!! Spit on her mother, disrespectful, wanted her own way and refused to listen! Joan Crawford is the one who refused to see her at a certain point later! Not Christina walking away from Joan Crawford! Plus Joan paid her an allowance until she quit a job at MCA that Joan helped her get in the first place, to expand her opportunities to be an actress! So I don't believe she is being completely honest and pretty mean spirited herself!!!
What's with the elevator music ?
Go, Christina! Well done.
I cheer for christina crawford too.
I loved the movie Mommie Dearest with Joan Crawford. I must have seen it over 100 times. I was 9 yrs old when it first came out. I never got to hear why Christina Crawford hated the movie that she wrote about other then the choice of the character that should have played her mother.
Stop the mucic!!!!!!!!
What a difference a decade(s) make. In this interview Christina is relaxed and in good humor where viewers see the fully rounded person. It is possible to be a Joan Crawford obsessive and not call Christina a liar. No-one is doing that here. People are multi-faceted and complex. Joan Crawford could be exercising her demons with her daughter one moment and graciously answering her fan mail the next. It has always troubled me that Joan Crawford fans coulld be so single minded as to discredit her daughter with her speaking the truth.What child would make up stories for money or publicity? Grounded is the word for Christina Crawford.
Ugh.
How about explaining this:
Christina made the accusation in her book that Joan nearly strangled her to death if not for someone (a woman employee of Joan's) in the house with them that day to stop it. Christina put a name to this woman in her 20th anniversary edition as Billie. At what point on any of Christina's many television interviews did she offer this woman (in person on stage, as a call-in, or even a signed written anything from her) as a witness to corroborate her claim? The answer is not once.
There was also not one solo print or television interview from this woman corroborating Christina's claim either.
Christina also made no accusation of violence in her court documents contesting Joan's will or in 1960 interviews with Redbook magazine and Mike Wallace.
Why they playin New Orleans music in the background? Doesn't fit the topic.
I can't believe I am going to say this, but I actually find this lady quite endearing. I don't know if it is because she has gotten older or the fact that she is so incredibly well-spoken. I am a huge Joan Crawford fan, so I clicked on this interview with a bit of trepidation. In the end, I found that I enjoyed Christina's honesty and well-adjusted, down-to-earth approach to life. However, what most impressed me is the way she does not come off as being bitter in the slightest and even suggests that celebrities ought to be judged on two completely separate planes: their public life and career and their private behavior. Joan was undoubtedly the biggest Hollywood movie star of the twentieth century and her enduring star status is the stuff of legend. However, she was also a highly complicated and conflicted woman. I totally accept that view and indeed embrace it. Christina does not seem to be suggesting that her mother's artistic achievements should be discarded. She is simply saying that there was a highly 'troubled' side to her mother's extremely driven and competitive personal/private life. At this point in time, I think the rational thing to do is to accept that Joan Crawford's iconic legacy includes her daughter Christina's experience and that those two things can coexist side by side. This approach ultimately serves to humanize both perspectives without the need for demonization in either direction. After all, life with any of these Hollywood divas can never be expected to have been easy for anyone involved in either their private or public lives.
A letter from JOAN CRAWFORD to her daughter, CHRISTINA:
“Christina dear
…I see I cannot trust you any more than I ever could, all of your enthusiasm, your loving attention is surface and as false as ever, you pour it on only to get what you want, and if you think I haven’t recognized that all during our Christmas holiday then you have another thought coming. Your Dad and I both saw it constantly and remarked on it. I really feel sorry for you, you are cheating yourself because you are so artificial, you will never be a warm real human being. You promised if you could come home for Christmas I would see “a new you” you would prove to me you have changed; you haven’t changed one iota Tina; you are as artificial as all that make-up you constantly wear. Obviously, I’m not the only one who thinks so, as Mrs. Chadwick’s letter tells you, all the compliments you received in New York were to make you happy, but you should have heard what people really said-about your temper-your too much make-up-your sophisticated snobbish manners.
After you graduate, I’ll have something planned for you till college opens, you are not bringing your qualities into our home again. I will not have the babies subjected to them, and don’t try to tell me you will change because I won’t believe it."
This letter was written in early 1956, and demonstrates Christina’s true nature and the actual issues at hand between Joan and Christina. This letter perfectly demonstrates that the real problem wasn’t Joan - it was CHRISTINA.
Since the publication of "Mommie Dearest," countless people who knew Christina personally have came forward to describe the exact same person Joan describes in this 1956 letter - including Christina's friends and business associates.
*Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied facebook* #ChristinaCrawfordLied
@@Garsons-oq4lh Thanks for sharing that insightful bit of communication between mother and daughter. I often wonder whether in fact the daughter is perhaps playing a bit of a "martyr" in these interviews, or to quote Joan 'pouring it on' for the sake of gaining the audience's sympathy. In the end, to be honest, nothing Christina has ever said has undermined my admiration of Joan in the slightest.
@@valsainking You're okay with a mother gaslighting and emotionally abusing her daughter? Because nothing warrants that.
@@Muirmaiden All I said is that there are two sides to every conflict. As Garsons2059 pointed out, there is enough evidence to suggest perhaps the daughter wasn't quite the innocent victim she would have us believe. There are two sides to every conflict, and so far we have only heard Christina's. As I said earlier, my fascination with Joan Crawford has not suffered one bit. Besides, the notion of expecting these stars to be perfect model citizens is silly at best.
@@valsainking The child has no power in those situations, and often this extends to adulthood. Like it or not, parents do have a large part in shaping their children. No child deserves to be mistreated, and no amount of excuses changes that. If you're referring to adult conflicts about people not seeing eye to eye, that's one thing. But when a parent gaslights their children, puts them down, and sabotages them, that is abuse. It doesn't have to be physical. If someone takes accountability for hurting others and makes an effort to change that, of course, that is good, but many abusive people don't ask for help and repeat the same pattern over and over. No one is stopping you from admiring her talent or her work. I enjoy many of her films. There will never be a perfect human being, but there is such a thing as a decent human being, and/or one who makes an effort to change for the better.
"I WASN'T THERE ON THE SCENE DURING THE LIFE OF JOAN AND CHRISTINA, HOWEVER I AM SURE THAT THERE ARE GRAINS IF NOT BUSHELS OF TRUTH IN CHRISTINA'S BOOK! NO ONE CAN BE AS A PERFECT PERSON AS JOAN CRAWFORD WAS!
Elvis’ road manager and friend Joe Esposito told this story about Christina Crawford and why Elvis threw her out of his home:
Christina Crawford, who had a bit part in "Wild in the Country," came up to the house one night,
She's Joan Crawford's adopted daughter,
Elvis was smoking cigars that night, and every time he'd take one out, I would start to light it for him, and Christina would reach out and grab it and break it,
Elvis said, "Don't do that, that's not funny." and he picked up another one, but when I went to light it…again..she broke it.
Elvis said, "I've asked you nicely." She said, "Well, he shouldn't have to light your cigars" and Elvis said, "Look he works for me goddammit”
But she did it a third time, and boy Elvis got mad. They got into a barrage of words. Elvis said, "Look you bitch--" and Christina threw a drink in his face. He stopped a minute and then he said "I'm going to eliminate this problem." He got up and stepped on the top of this five by six marble coffee table we had and grabbed her by her ponytail and dragged her across the damn table out of the room to the door and threw her out. Elvis said “ never let her back in here!” Christina was dating one of the security guards at that time too and at some point Christina was able to come back so she could apologize to Elvis.
~ Is it true?
You be the judge.
I have no doubt that Christina suffered in her childhood under Joan Crawford but she's said a few things here and in previous interviews that are utter, self-aggrandizing bullshit. She claims that there were no therapy modalities for treatment of childhood abuse until she helped to create them-really?? That's ridiculous. Also claims that there was no awareness of child abuse until her book came out-simply preposterous claims. She's a bit of a nut job.
The fuckin' background music, why???
Get rid of that music! I had to stop watching.