For those that are asking, I have the 36" F&P Induction. Got it a few months ago, and the oven is now non-functional. The knob controlling the oven in particular broke, the electronics behind it. It felt flimsy. The knobs are not as comfortable as other gas ranges I'm familiar with like Viking and Thermador. The cooktop itself has a perfect design, which was why I got it. They have a service rep coming and have been responsive in that way, so we'll hope they fix it with no fuss. Besides this oven problem, I love the design and will likely bring it with me when I move.
Really appreciate your videos- thanks! The 36" induction range market looks like a disaster, so much so that I'm considering 30" for our full kitchen remodel. Is that crazy? I cook all the time, and all that matters to me are: reliability, knobs, bridge element, solid oven and broiler, and a unit that isn't overly noisy (I keep reading about "cooldown fans"). What would you advise? I was sold on fisher and paykel until I found out it vents out of the front- that's sounds awful! Thanks again.
The Bosch 800 Series HII8057U slide-in drops down onto the counter so the glass top sits against the countertop and should prevent spilled liquid from going down the crack between the stove and the cabinet. But look beyond the back of that overlapping-width glass top, there's the less wide metal vent that goes across the back of the stove. That vent is only as wide as the counter cutout, not as wide as the glass. That leaves a gap between the vent and the edge of the countertop at the very back of the counter cutout. Unless you plug that gap with, say, chewing gum, surely something is going to go down there, and it will be quite an operation to get in there and clean it up. Is there some installation technique that is supposed to take care of that gap? Has this ever come up with any of your customers?
Curious if you could do a series on emerging induction range companies? I realize you probably don’t have them in stock, but even a features comparison would be super helpful
@@YaleAppliance1 Perhaps you could talk about Fulgor Milano? I wouldn't even put them in the "emerging" company realm anymore as they've been around for a while. I've looked at them in person and they seem well made, solid frame and knobs, good burner wattage, nice oven features and adequate size (comparable to Bosch, Wolf, Miele size). For me right now it's a toss-up between Miele (checks all the boxes but the most expensive), Wolf (smallest size cooking surface but awesome oven) or Fulgor Milano. The local dealer who does sell them did confirm they have very few service calls on their induction ranges, but it remains a bit of an obscure brand. Any insights on Fulgor Milano would be most welcome
Count me in as another person disappointed you didn't include a Fisher and Paykel, I just had to make this decision and ordered their 36'' contemporary model. I don't live in a huge metro so there's not a lot of places selling higher end appliances like this and they mostly focus on gas here, the result is while there's a good variety I can buy the only model on display I found was that Thermador. After my online research I was leaning towards the F&P and getting hands on with the Thermador didn't change it, the top seemed unimpressive to me, less power than the F&P or Bosch, far to much real estate taken up by the controls on top, and being touch-only is a complete deal killer for me, when I need to fine tune the power I want a knob not capacitive touch. You can't redo the video but I'd still be interested in hearing where you'd rank the F&P.
Maybe you guys have already done a video on this, and if so, would you be able to guide me there? I'm starting the research for a new induction stove. I am in Canada, but not sure if that matters. I had an older Samsung induction, which when cooking on two of the burners on one side, it would split the power between the burners. I often cook with 3 or more pans, boiling in one, frying in the other two, and the Samsung I had, was a struggle to manage the power available at times. Would you guys be able to explain how each stove top works? You mention the twin burners, does that mean there's only two? Not 4? And the Thermador having the best top, but what if I need to cook with 3 pans? Great video, and content. Learned a lot here! Thanks for putting these up!
Hi. Great video as all the others. However, I’m interested in the Beko PRIR34452SS but I can’t find it anywhere for the $2499 price. Did it go back up to $3500+ ?
We're looking for a 48 inch full induction range. Seems like options are limited to AGA and Fisher and Paykel (coming soon). Do you know of any other full induction ranges coming this year or next in the 48 inch size?
Also, would appreciate an update on 48" induction ranges... supposedly Blue Star and others they were coming to KBIS this year but I kept an eye out for news around it and it was crickets as best I could tell
7:50 nice reviews and comparisons! I really like the innovations that Miele appliances have amongst some are ahead of other brands. MasterChef is definitely a big help for cooking with a lot less hassles. However I couldn’t find the MasterChef program on the M Tough screen of the recent HR16223I unit. Instead there are some automated programs which look similar. Is Miele taken away the MasterChef on the newer units or just renamed the program? Thanks.
I own the AGA. I wouldn't call it flimsy. I am worried about the reliability of the induction top. I have seen reviews from UK where it fails after a few years and AGA won't repair it.
Man, i was about to order that AGA 48" range...sad to hear that it is flimsy...I even managed to justify to myself the smaller ovens as a positive feature, 😆 The only other 48" induction range i could find was the one by Fulgor-Milano...do they suffer from the reliability issues of the other Italian brands? Since I am looking for a 48" would you advise is to wait for the bluestar, F&P, and others to release their 48" instead of going Fulgor?
@@YaleAppliance1 thanks. Who all are coming out with a 48" range and do we know when we can expect it to be out? I know you mentioned Bluestar and F&P - anyone else? Say Wolf or Miele? I have already started the addition and renovations...I could just do a 30" temporary range and ask my designer for a filler solution for the rest of the space till a 48" I want is available I guess...not ideal and won't go over well with the Family but that is future me's problems, 😆
Bertazzoni wins hands-down in terms of aesthetics. All the others are DRAB with their ubiquitous stainless steel, white, or black finishes. WHY is it so difficult for manufacturers of ANY appliances to think and see in color?
I love this format, thanks to your videos I went with Cafe induction, and no regrets. Look so beautiful in my kitchen
For those that are asking, I have the 36" F&P Induction. Got it a few months ago, and the oven is now non-functional. The knob controlling the oven in particular broke, the electronics behind it. It felt flimsy. The knobs are not as comfortable as other gas ranges I'm familiar with like Viking and Thermador. The cooktop itself has a perfect design, which was why I got it. They have a service rep coming and have been responsive in that way, so we'll hope they fix it with no fuss. Besides this oven problem, I love the design and will likely bring it with me when I move.
I love this format of video, awesome job!
Really appreciate your videos- thanks! The 36" induction range market looks like a disaster, so much so that I'm considering 30" for our full kitchen remodel. Is that crazy? I cook all the time, and all that matters to me are: reliability, knobs, bridge element, solid oven and broiler, and a unit that isn't overly noisy (I keep reading about "cooldown fans"). What would you advise? I was sold on fisher and paykel until I found out it vents out of the front- that's sounds awful! Thanks again.
Another great comparison video!
The Bosch 800 Series HII8057U slide-in drops down onto the counter so the glass top sits against the countertop and should prevent spilled liquid from going down the crack between the stove and the cabinet. But look beyond the back of that overlapping-width glass top, there's the less wide metal vent that goes across the back of the stove. That vent is only as wide as the counter cutout, not as wide as the glass. That leaves a gap between the vent and the edge of the countertop at the very back of the counter cutout. Unless you plug that gap with, say, chewing gum, surely something is going to go down there, and it will be quite an operation to get in there and clean it up. Is there some installation technique that is supposed to take care of that gap? Has this ever come up with any of your customers?
again...excellent format...love it
Curious if you could do a series on emerging induction range companies? I realize you probably don’t have them in stock, but even a features comparison would be super helpful
Sure...which ones?
@@YaleAppliance1 Perhaps you could talk about Fulgor Milano? I wouldn't even put them in the "emerging" company realm anymore as they've been around for a while. I've looked at them in person and they seem well made, solid frame and knobs, good burner wattage, nice oven features and adequate size (comparable to Bosch, Wolf, Miele size).
For me right now it's a toss-up between Miele (checks all the boxes but the most expensive), Wolf (smallest size cooking surface but awesome oven) or Fulgor Milano. The local dealer who does sell them did confirm they have very few service calls on their induction ranges, but it remains a bit of an obscure brand. Any insights on Fulgor Milano would be most welcome
Count me in as another person disappointed you didn't include a Fisher and Paykel, I just had to make this decision and ordered their 36'' contemporary model. I don't live in a huge metro so there's not a lot of places selling higher end appliances like this and they mostly focus on gas here, the result is while there's a good variety I can buy the only model on display I found was that Thermador. After my online research I was leaning towards the F&P and getting hands on with the Thermador didn't change it, the top seemed unimpressive to me, less power than the F&P or Bosch, far to much real estate taken up by the controls on top, and being touch-only is a complete deal killer for me, when I need to fine tune the power I want a knob not capacitive touch. You can't redo the video but I'd still be interested in hearing where you'd rank the F&P.
I know...My bad. That said, I have published videos recently JUST on F&P.
Maybe you guys have already done a video on this, and if so, would you be able to guide me there? I'm starting the research for a new induction stove. I am in Canada, but not sure if that matters. I had an older Samsung induction, which when cooking on two of the burners on one side, it would split the power between the burners. I often cook with 3 or more pans, boiling in one, frying in the other two, and the Samsung I had, was a struggle to manage the power available at times. Would you guys be able to explain how each stove top works? You mention the twin burners, does that mean there's only two? Not 4? And the Thermador having the best top, but what if I need to cook with 3 pans?
Great video, and content. Learned a lot here! Thanks for putting these up!
Power share/power boost....The burners will share power for that boost.
So helpful! Thanks!
You're welcome!
Hi. Great video as all the others. However, I’m interested in the Beko PRIR34452SS but I can’t find it anywhere for the $2499 price. Did it go back up to $3500+ ?
What is your opinion of KitchenAid KSIS730PSS?
Will you be doing a review soon on the Monogram induction range?
Not sure
We're looking for a 48 inch full induction range. Seems like options are limited to AGA and Fisher and Paykel (coming soon). Do you know of any other full induction ranges coming this year or next in the 48 inch size?
Thats all for this year..I think. There will be more in the next few years.
Where would you put the 36" Fisher Paykel on this list?
36 an A....30 inch low B
Can you do a video on in wall coffee maker
Are yoy guys doing an induction cooktop tier list soon?
good idea
Also, would appreciate an update on 48" induction ranges... supposedly Blue Star and others they were coming to KBIS this year but I kept an eye out for news around it and it was crickets as best I could tell
I am mid demo and using very minute my contractor will give me to delay the 36 vs 48 decision... induction is a must so options are limited for both
"If you dont use it, its a very good looking range..." hahahahaaha
7:50 nice reviews and comparisons! I really like the innovations that Miele appliances have amongst some are ahead of other brands. MasterChef is definitely a big help for cooking with a lot less hassles. However I couldn’t find the MasterChef program on the M Tough screen of the recent HR16223I unit. Instead there are some automated programs which look similar. Is Miele taken away the MasterChef on the newer units or just renamed the program? Thanks.
They arent taking MasterChef out...I hope
I own the AGA. I wouldn't call it flimsy. I am worried about the reliability of the induction top. I have seen reviews from UK where it fails after a few years and AGA won't repair it.
I just saw it again yester...its better, but not as solid as the others
Man, i was about to order that AGA 48" range...sad to hear that it is flimsy...I even managed to justify to myself the smaller ovens as a positive feature, 😆
The only other 48" induction range i could find was the one by Fulgor-Milano...do they suffer from the reliability issues of the other Italian brands?
Since I am looking for a 48" would you advise is to wait for the bluestar, F&P, and others to release their 48" instead of going Fulgor?
Dont know about Fulgor Milano.....You may want to wait when you have other choices
@@YaleAppliance1 thanks. Who all are coming out with a 48" range and do we know when we can expect it to be out? I know you mentioned Bluestar and F&P - anyone else? Say Wolf or Miele?
I have already started the addition and renovations...I could just do a 30" temporary range and ask my designer for a filler solution for the rest of the space till a 48" I want is available I guess...not ideal and won't go over well with the Family but that is future me's problems, 😆
So any these come with scratch free surface?
No
@@YaleAppliance1 thanks! I hope they are striving towards a scratch free cooktop!
Why do most of the 36 inch ranges have smaller ovens then the 30 inchers? Hard to figure.
I have no idea....
Why no Frigidaire?
What about Monogram??
Just introduced.....didnt get a chance to look at it much.
How come the F&P ranges weren't included in this list?
Probably because I forgot...I have other F&P videos....sorry about that
@@YaleAppliance1I'd be curious to know what tier they fall in, if you get around to seeing this comment...
Aga 48 is a lot cheaper too
Bertazzoni wins hands-down in terms of aesthetics. All the others are DRAB with their ubiquitous stainless steel, white, or black finishes. WHY is it so difficult for manufacturers of ANY appliances to think and see in color?
No question...F&P, Cafe, and Smeg have colors as well.
Are you guys nuts Beko has a 97% dissatisfaction rating on line CS is nonexistent
So true...for everyone else. We service what we sell.
Miele most overrated application manufacture in the world. My Humble Opinion
Care to share the basis for your opinion? A bare statement is not very helpful.