Why I Quit Java (as a Java Developer)

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  • @alecclews
    @alecclews 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I've developed in multiple languages over the years (e.g. COBOL, Assembler, C, Java, Python, Perl, ...) Developers should change

  • @coderkinime
    @coderkinime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    As one of your subscribers and a customer to your Gradle Hero course and Gradle Bible book, this is a very sad news. I cannot tell you how much the content you created has helped me in my career to understand Gradle and become confident about it. But I fully understand what it takes to keep content coming especially when you don't have a full-time job. I will stay subscribed to your channel and look forward to your next big idea. Thanks a ton for your efforts and contributions and all the best wishes on your next bright idea. 👍🏼

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's great. Thanks for the encouragement!

    • @schiesseisen
      @schiesseisen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can only completely agree with coderkinime! Thanks a ton, Tom!

  • @iseeflowers
    @iseeflowers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ok, that is a relief. It is a personal preference and not a lack of demand in tech industry or trend.

  • @algorithm.vibes._
    @algorithm.vibes._ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Java is cool language I switched from js to Java I faced many problems and always thought to leave but I learned it

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Good luck in your new plans. I've been using Java for so many use cases now. Web apps (Micronaut+HTMX/JStachio), CLIs (Micronaut/PicoCLI + native), Massive data loading, AWS Lambda (60ms cold startup), Cyber security analysis (STIX) with graph dbs (CYPHER), wrapping C libs with the new FFM api. Matrix processing with the new Vector API (AVX2/AVX512) which is going to be HUGE in AI/ML (NO external libs). Running Python inside Java with Truffle. Yeah that last one is mad ;) I started out with 6502 assembler, BASIC, COBOL, Pascal, RPG, C, C++, Python etc. Being able to run the same Java app (unchanged) on an IBM mainframe, midrange (AS/400) and on a PC was great for me. Now being able to natively compile (GraalVM) and get insane speeds (1BRC), is just icing.

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's cool. Java is a very versatile language.

  • @petersburgh78
    @petersburgh78 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I used Java for most of my entire career. But staying with that language feels like staying in the comfort zone and too much on many frameworks. So I start my next journey into either Go or Rust.

  • @Karnikhil91
    @Karnikhil91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Very painful.....when u say I'm leaving java

  • @jay-j6l
    @jay-j6l 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Java + Spring Boot for backend server development, and Angular + Typescript on the frontend. Since Spring Boot and Angular share similar concepts with annotation, it's really easy to move from frontend to backend. I start coding in C++ and got sick of it and left it several years ago.

    • @kaffeetasse2461
      @kaffeetasse2461 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i also have angular+springboot in my job. and it is from hell. most evil combination. we use it for a simple crud web app. most idiotic decision. but that is the typical java enterprise thinking. make simple things most complicated complex. it is satanic thinking. jee is evil. and angular is the same complex evil shit like jee.

  • @sadiulhakim7814
    @sadiulhakim7814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am still with Java, Java 21+ and spring boot.

  • @kanybekmomukeev4116
    @kanybekmomukeev4116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So om which Stack you changed?
    Golang or C++?

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Any stack to deliver a full web app as a solo developer. I've chosen Vue.js (TypeScript & HTML), Tailwind CSS, & AWS Lambda (JavaScript).

    • @himankshu
      @himankshu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TomGregoryTechwhy not go? I decided to go with Golang! Whats your opinion?

    • @andresgomez5592
      @andresgomez5592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jesy1732your English sucks haha

    • @shankar7435
      @shankar7435 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TomGregoryTechThanks for the details.

  • @chillbro2275
    @chillbro2275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely understand Tom. Sounds like it was time.

  • @guyomen8253
    @guyomen8253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a C dev, i totally agree to leave Java.

  • @la-dev
    @la-dev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is wise decision to learn Java in 2024 or something else makes more sense? Please guide.

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out my latest video for an answer to this.

    • @la-dev
      @la-dev หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TomGregoryTech Thanks.

  • @vedisoft_in
    @vedisoft_in 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, good and true video. Even I have over 2 decades of experience in Java. Personally even I feel like quitting it. But, I am scared of my future and finance. One question, would be thankful if you will answer it. HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR FINANCE NOW

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes I have the same fear. I'm living off a tiny income but mostly savings. Staying motivated to keep building stuff is how I plan to turn that around. I'll explain more in the next video.

    • @vedisoft_in
      @vedisoft_in 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TomGregoryTech thanks for the next reply. Waiting eagerly for your next Video :-)

  • @duartemarco
    @duartemarco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it safe to assume that you have enough money not to need a full-time job?

    • @louisant1817
      @louisant1817 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      who cares about that, don't look into other people's pockets

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Forr now, yes. But I need to start other potentially money making projects that I'll talk about in future videos.

  • @MrXQ-n3y
    @MrXQ-n3y 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh No! Anyway.. good luck for what ever your next plans are!!

  • @iseeflowers
    @iseeflowers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, it is just a personal preference and not the language itself or the lack of demand in the tech industry or trend.

  • @MrsAp425
    @MrsAp425 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are 100s millions of lines of java, there will always be work. But, also learn borrow checker languages such as rust, if you want to spice it up

  • @rolandringgenberg8501
    @rolandringgenberg8501 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool and honest video, congratz! I'm afraid this is the first video of you the youtube algo made me aware of. Therefore I'm afraid I'm not a regular of your videos, but as I program on our stack since the 90 (JVM and Web) I thought I leave a comment anyway. :) If you after a while will come back into programming, as a Java/Gradle crack while still of courese enjoying the client stuff very much, take a look at Kotlin in combination with 3D. It could bring everything together that you where talking about in your short video. Success and see you in the cloud!

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Glad the algo reached you for this one.

  • @jryanhale6037
    @jryanhale6037 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can someone help with a Java project for school?

    • @rohangoud2572
      @rohangoud2572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you got?

    • @TheEmperor5000
      @TheEmperor5000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you still need someone?

  • @JoseDevCoding
    @JoseDevCoding หลายเดือนก่อน

    SUBBED! Great channel!

  • @johnmoe2806
    @johnmoe2806 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pffft. I have developed java since 97. No turning back. I never gonna get better or more effective with anything else worth trying for what I do for a living. I say this after 34 seconds of your video. Will never change....never! Okay...lets see the rest.

    • @johnmoe2806
      @johnmoe2806 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Okay seen the rest now. Your reason is legit. Different setting from my own completely and understandable from you angle. Good luck with your choice and good luck with your future content.

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks

  • @hongmosung5045
    @hongmosung5045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    자바 공화국에서 자바로 일하고 있는데 슬프네요 😢

  • @tiagoorcall.
    @tiagoorcall. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I'm Brazilian and I'm looking for content to study in JAVA, I'm just starting out and from your video, I understood a little about what you meant, should I continue with my studies in JAVA or look for new paths too?

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greetings! By documenting my decision to quit Java I hope to offer an alternate perspective. Everyone has a different situation though, so you'll have to take from it what's useful to make your own decision.
      Do you have any more specific questions about Java and industry in general? I might be able to cover in another video.

    • @tiagoorcall.
      @tiagoorcall. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TomGregoryTech Nice! About JAVA, is it worth investing time in this language nowadays?

    • @Kazama47
      @Kazama47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiagoorcall. hey im also learning java. But the problem many people are saying it isnt worth it, since company dont hire fresher java dev, whats your view on this

    • @tiagoorcall.
      @tiagoorcall. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kazama47 I think that one day the old java developers will die and thus vacancies will open up for us, faith, brother

    • @Kazama47
      @Kazama47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiagoorcall. lol thats gonna take lot of years haha, but are you still learning java ?

  • @elvis8180
    @elvis8180 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are you planning to create a course?

    • @TomGregoryTech
      @TomGregoryTech  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What goal would the course help you achieve?

  • @tuanbipa
    @tuanbipa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey i'm leaving java too, a little sad but gotta move on

  • @WebDevJapan
    @WebDevJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Welcome to the JavaScript family

  • @kaidaluck648
    @kaidaluck648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    You either die with Java or live long enough to use Javascript 😂

    • @tiagoorcall.
      @tiagoorcall. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      JAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJa

    • @WebDevJapan
      @WebDevJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol
      What am I doing? I started with JavaScript and haven't done anything else.

    • @blzrL
      @blzrL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@WebDevJapanyoure coding, not programming

    • @WebDevJapan
      @WebDevJapan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blzrL oh dang it guess chat gpt is gonna replace me

    • @ManuBharadwajBN
      @ManuBharadwajBN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both : We live with Java & Javascript!

  • @ForChiddlers
    @ForChiddlers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Java + 25 years ! Now flutter... its about the same🎉

  • @dralex-yp1ib
    @dralex-yp1ib 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is sad. You course "Monitoring A Spring Boot Application" is really awesome! It helped me a lot!

  • @hamzasalihu
    @hamzasalihu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You became a full stack software engineer but misunderstood your new privileged status to mean weaning yourself of java. I think this is the case because most java engineers like to play in the back end/devops world.

  • @murph1329
    @murph1329 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    microsoft killed java....and this is a good thing. a very very very good thing. All those years of java developers hating on MS stack guys. I guess we get the last laugh

  • @arghyamitra3281
    @arghyamitra3281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Long live the king

  • @jacklo2012
    @jacklo2012 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometime who those quit java, is they cannot pay

  • @chadlunders4898
    @chadlunders4898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His OnlyFans really took off 😂

  • @jjovanw
    @jjovanw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro got lost in the sauce 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @peacemakerle
    @peacemakerle หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you feel it would be liberating to change from Java to JavaScript then you have to have some serious mental problems. 😁
    Seriously - I think JavaScript is the root of all evil today, burning money for armies of developers you wouldn't need if there would be a proper technology for web development.

  • @admk2500
    @admk2500 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Java is hell

  • @onlinewatcher1000
    @onlinewatcher1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    worthless videos if author is no longer developer