Super Smash Bros Intro Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo Wii Virtual Console
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2017
- Left Video N64, Right Video Wii VC
Goes to show how inaccurate emulation is. Wear headphones for the full effect. I put the N64 sound on the left and Wii Sound on the right. Both were recorded the same exact way, same DVD Recorder. I can notice these differences even without looking at them side by side. I synced the audio for both from the beginning of the song just to show how off everything can get, even in the beginning you can tell that it's off.
NOTE THAT THE CHARACTER THAT IT SHOWS AT THE BEGINNING IS RANDOMLY CHOSEN AND DOESN"T AFFECT ANYTHING.
I will try some other games that I have on original hardware and Wii, as well as comparing them to the Homebrew emulators. - เกม
Left N64, Right Wii VC, I will be comparing some other games i have both the original and VC version of, as well as trying it on a homebrew emulator. Goes to show how innacurate emulation is.
Can you do a N64 VS PC Emu VS VC?
Fancy Second Channel I'll try. Should I do it w/ this game again? or a different one like Super Mario 64.
JUSXTREME96 It depends on system.
NES already has a 100% accurate emulator in terms of specs (not peripherals), and the SNES has a cycle accurate emulator called higan which maintains a known 100% compatibility with all licensed games.
The N64 has good emulation with the right plugins on Project64 (PareLLEl on Retroarch), and the PS1 has Mednafen or Beetle PSX which has high compatibility with games (it will never beat old PS2s and real hardware though, at least for now). After that, it becomes a mixed bag with Dolphin being an excellent GameCube and Wii emulator despite being HLE rendered, and PCSX2 being a plug-in filled mess with bad coding, x86, and relying on hacks to fix bugs in games instead of improving their accuracy in emulation. The Xbox original doesn’t even have a emulator that is amazing.
You actually did your homework on emulators. That's more than can be said than most emulator users.
#liek
Interesting how the Wii and N64 music tracks remain synced but their visuals and sound effects don’t. Wii gradually gets a bit too far ahead of the music.
Yeah I think the Wii N64 emulator doesn't have the speed limitations that a real N64 has so it probably doesn't cap the speed, causing the video to be ahead. It's weird. lol.
A lot of the effects are missing like at 0:22.
Fate For Windows N64 can never be emulated properly. Real hardware is always the way to go imo
JUSXTREME96 but this is the Wii not pc
SmashyPlays Yeah, it's running on an emulator though.
JUSXTREME96
We're still a long way from perfect N64 emulation, but that doesn't mean it would never be emulated properly.
TheSmashbros45 Yeah, but either way, I pretty much have all the good N64 games I want, except a few expensive games like Mario Party 2 & 3, and Paper Mario. I plan on getting an ED64 too. I just really hate configuring things, It's annoying.
arent the characters randomly chosen in the beginning of the opening?
KidofModding of MCPE yes thats why its different on both
That's one of the things that makes this the best Smash opening ever.
JUSXTREME96 Yeah
I was haved the same question Xd
The holiest of Smash Bros intros.
Allplussomeminus Eggzactly
Idk man, as much as i think melee is overrated, its intro fucking slaps
0:32 after this point the Wii VC takes longer time to load 3D scenes but takes less time to load between black screens.
Seems to me that the main difference is with clockspeed (or something like that). A similar problem happened with the Super Game Boy, which failed to account for the SNES/SFC's higher clockspeed, and as a result, games and music played about 2.4 percent faster on the SGB. This was fixed with the Japan-only SGB2, which also added a link cable port.And yes, some visual effects are missing, but the only one I noticed was the frame when the figure comes to life.
MrQuirkyKirk This emulator on the VC has some kind of frameskip. It seems the music is in sync real well though. I'm aware of the Super Game Boy speed differences but the Super Game Boy actually has hardware while the VC is an emulator.
JUSXTREME96 It’s similar to PS3 emulation of the PS2 (NON CECHA01/CECHC01 MODELS) where while the emulator lags for shit, all the audio is properly synced with no time stretching unlike the PS4 emulator.
It’s called Async. This means that audio will always play at full speed. Looking at PCSX2, using Async means that all sound effects play at the same speed instead of stretching or skipping. However, the sound effects play as they are called.
0:22 some effects were missing
It's simply Emulation Issues. The same goes for the Project 64...
[You didn't Unlock Captain Falcon. What a sinner! xD]
Emishimaru - Sama Yup, that's why I hate Emulators
I had just got that copy of Smash when I made the video. So it came like that without C. Falcon.
[How weird, Capt. Falcon Is naturally the second or third character to unlock, and Ness Is the last xD]
I didn't think the nintendo consoles would fall to use an emulator tbh..
Emishimaru - Sama The ebay seller didn't seem like a gamer so I don't know how they played it. I got it for $25 when it normally goes for $50+, the listing simply said Super Smash Bro, so spelling it wrong helps you get games cheaper sometimes. The seller mainly had beauty products. I usually unlock either C. Falcon or Ness last.
JUSXTREME96 project 64 is improving though. There's a plugin that you could use to add the red thing from the intro back in as well as fix up other roms that had problems.
RoboyZHunter I haven't used Pj64 in over 4 years, since I was regularly using Windows 2000/XP & 7 actually. I'll check it out at some point though I dont use N64 Emulators due to owning all the games I want for it, i.e. all the good 1st party & rare titles, plus a few others.
One of the best Smash Bros openings!!
Virtual Console version can be played in progressive scan and with the GameCube controller. Everybody who owns a Wii should have it on their system.
furballbear Yes it can, though for this video the only recording option i had was AV as that's what my DVD Recorder supports. I honestly prefer the GC Controller anyway.
Intro is Amazing
Thank you! :)
This video proves why Nintendo hasn't made an N64 Classic yet. Because even on the Virtual Console, N64 emulation is far from perfect and has very noticeable bugs.
Yup, and thankfully they didn't rush an N64 classic out yet like the way Sony rushed out the PS1 classic.
I wouldn't say "noticeable" but yeah it definitely runs a tad slower
Super Smash Bros Intro Nintendo 64 vs Nintendo Wii Virtual Console 0:00 Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird & Marie Chaboyea
From what I know, the Wii is rendering the game at 480p instead of the 64’s 240i
Both are scaled up to 480i because that's the standard that Composite video puts out on my DVD recorder and my TV's.
JUSXTREME96 I know that they are upscaled, but what I’m talking about is the Native Resolution, what the graphics are rendering at.
Then yes, you are correct.
JUSXTREME96 How come you aren’t using Component for the Wii?
Blank Blank Cause the N64 also uses composite. Plus I have no way on my DVD Recorder to even plug Component.
Kirby did an adorable pose on 0:27 and, I pick the wii
Just cuz you are a kirby fan doesn't mean everything that includes kirby is the next best thing
nobody cares boi just shut up if he is a kirby fan just let him be
Well, actually yes, Kirby is a pure boy
reminder that he does that in the 64 version too.
Just a reminder the characters are random in the intro
Hopefully the Switch Online version's audio is more in sync.
There is no switch online smash 64.
Well not yet anyway
It is way too far-fetched for Nintendo standards. It is like putting the original Mario RPG on Switch Online.
@@laser90 No it’s not. It’s not like that at all. They’re completely different games. And it’s not too far-fetched.
Ok. And I didn't compare Mario RPG and Smash 64 as games, I compared their possibility to be in Switch Online (which is still kinda wrong). I still don't wait for either to show up on Switch Online tbh.
Although, something tells me Smash 64 is going to make a surprise appearance some day on Switch Online.
Hey i got the smash on the wii yesterday but since am using emulator i want to knw if it works on b4 buying thanks
Super smash bros intro N64 vs Wii virtual console
Sucks this game wasn’t on the Wii U
Hmm I think you're gonna need a component cable for the wii one to get a better comparison.
It wouldn't be a fair comparison because the N64 does not have a component option. I do have Wii Component cables though and they look amazing. I don't know how I can capture with them anyway since I use a DVD recorder
this is a case where the n64 one is better by how fast it plays and with the better colours
The only difference I saw was at 0:22
N64 Controller is easy to use ^_^
Yeah, I know, but I think the Gamecube controller was a big step up in terms of Nintendo's controllers for their 3D Based Game systems. Why do you think it is a must have for Smash players and they make adapters to allow it whereas the N64 controller is more or less not acknowledged by Nintendo anymore?
N64 is hard to emulate
N64 is the best
Wii is missing everything
At least the Wii u didn't get melee
Note that I used a Wii in this video.
nintendont exists, although its unofficial
The only real difference I see is that Master Hand pulls out Kirby instead of Samus in the Wii U Virtual Console version.
That's randomized. It pulls a different character everytime you turn it on
@@JUSXTREME96 Thank you for letting me know of that.
Can you tell me what’s the price for buying the game on eshop
I never bought Wii U VC games but on Wii it was $10 so i assume wii u is the same?
You unlocked Ness, but not Captain Falcon? I’m having real problems trying to get Ness. Captain Falcon is a breeze to unlock.
That copy of Smash i had just recently bought at the time of the video. Normally i unlock Ness last.
JUSXTREME96 oh ok.
Dk or donkey KONG
or even D. KONG
Is that NTSC and PAL? I only ask because the VC version is a bit slower!
Both are NTSC, I live in the US. The VC Version is slower due to it being emulation, so sometimes frames skip and lag.
@@JUSXTREME96 ahh yeah thanks I live in Australia thats why I thought it was PAL! Thats how it is for me...........I'm pretty sure though!
@@JUSXTREME96 you're subscribe to many TH-camrs I watch too the Nintendo/gaming and [as] ones!
@@KirisunaOnline Yeah you definitely have PAL Versions which is unfortunate. And the PAL Wii VC still ran at 50 HZ sadly.
And lol I also briefly looked at your channel and noticed that as well. That's cool to know.
@@JUSXTREME96 your welcome to watch my channel if ya want!
Also,we can get NTSC versions of any games! I get emulators and also my NES,SNES classics have the NTSC versions I know the difference between the two!
I cant tell the difference because i thought there was gonna be new characters in 64 style
Its easy to tell the difference. Wii version is laggy. plus theres graphical glitches
I didnt see lag though or glitches
@@tj.henderson
If you actually pay attention, the Wii side (left) takes slightly longer to load each scene. Because its a port and SSB64 didn't originate on the Wii it makes sense and the graphics are slightly polished but you really have to look
Off topic but how did you not unlock captain falcon hes as easy as gettin jigglypuff
Lol, someone asked me the same thing already. I had just got this copy of the game on ebay when i made the video. It was sold by a lady who seems to definitely not be a gamer (she was mostly selling makeup products, this was the only game she had) also why i got it for cheap, only $25 whereas most copies were going for $40 - $50 or more.
@@JUSXTREME96
Yeah, Ness and Luigi are harder to get 😂
@@ChrisJohnson-ib5fp Ness being the hardest haha!!
0:21 wait a minute
for dumb: where is transition
😮 0:39
0:08 Minecraft?
What about minecraft?
JUSXTREME96 The chest is a literal block, like Minecraft’s chest model.
Specifically it looks like the Chest model used between 0.31 and Beta 1.7.3. Later versions had a 3D lock and such. SSB64’s chest looks exactly like the old versions of Minecraft
Just shut up about minecraft
@@succccccccccccccccc2328 Minecraft got it from this lol.
@@JUSXTREME96 yeah i know that you didn't need to reply 3 months later
What was the frame rate of the one on the left??
Fab Bo I don't know, the videos were both around 30 fps. The left of course is from a real N64.
why do they desynk?
Yagavitch Because the Wii VC emulator framerate can't match the awesomeness of real hardware.
JUSXTREME96 To be fair if you don't even pay attention when actually playing there's not really much of a change in famerate
JUSXTREME96 Doesn’t the Wii U fix that issue?
@@ItsLeavee Yeah it doesnt seem that bad.
next time: Original, Wii VC, NSO+
when arrives the last
@@zanok7796 I dont have the switch online expansion unfortunately.
@@JUSXTREME96 I'm not saying that you "have to" load it
I think that the one on the left is 20fps and the VC one is 60 fps
Fab Bo The game itself is 60fps, like all smash games, even on the n64, but the intro like shown here might be running in 30 or 24fps.
Benjamin 30 FPS Videos.
N64 is much better
Porygon777 I just hate the controller.
JUSXTREME96 yeah the controller isn't that good
Porygon777 When I go back to my n64 every now & then,I think how the hell did i used to play it all the time lol.
JUSXTREME96 lol I got mine 2 years ago at a game store with super smash bros and it had everything unlocked with it
Porygon777 Oh, I am 3 days younger than the N64 release day in Japan. (6/23/96) It's that day today. Happy Birthday N64, your controllers aged like milk. The N64, SNES, PS1, GB, and Genesis were my first systems.
There look same
tac cat Look closely
p
There is no diference. :/
You weren't watching clearly were you?