Definitely good stuff! I had occasion to use a wide variety of aftermarket engine parts/assemblies while in business - and there are very VERY few products that are consistently made correctly, fit correctly, assembled correctly, are ready to install out of the box, and perform as advertised, and one of those few companies that deliver as promised is EDELBROCK! Well done ETCG!
We installed the other version of this unit on a 67 Chevelle SS. 496 ci 13.5:1 compression. System has the tunnel ram style manifold, and absolutely doesn't miss a beat. Very nice kit. Well thought out design and does exactly what it is meant to do. The Chevelle is also an E85 fuel so, no issues at all. Only needed to increase the injector size a bit to compensate.
Edelbrock seriously needs to rethink their packaging within the box. I was so surprised that you didnt have any damage to the fuel rails during shipping when you pulled the box top off. Some dense foam or something that would would keep the intake from moving around inside the box. I ordered rotors last week and UPS had to send them back due to damage during shipping before I even received them. Seriously, damaged rotors?
@@ericthecarguy weird. The order of videos is all out whack and it’s messing with my head. I can’t believe I’m so late to the ETCG party. Glad I finally found you though.
$1800 is just the start, You need a fuel system for efi, regulator, pump relay, 10 micron filter, wires, -6 fittings, and the list goes on and on. So far Im into it $3500! There is a lot they don't mention
Edelbrock make nice quality stuff, back in the day ive seen more than a few of their Carter clone 4 barrel carbs and they were so easy to set up and tune especially with the electric choke. Holley on the other hand seemed to be way more finicky and always seemed to require re-jetting and lots of playing around to get them running right. Far as I know these Edelbrock intake setups are easy to get going and are virtually trouble free once set up. What a well thought out nicely engineered setup.
I'm concerned that there was no packing material whatsoever around the intake. There' was LOTS of room for that thing to bounce around inside that box. That's probably why the plastic ripped off the one side. I hope everything is 100% ok Eric.
I went with the fitech power adder 600 to save a few hundred bucks. It has fought me left and right since day one. It either randomly doesn't want to start, or won't run after it initially fires. Without touching the settings, its behavior changes from day to day. I'm afraid I'll have to take the hit and pick one of these edelbrocks up soon.
Hey Eric, what are you using the control your 4L60E transmission? Maybe I have missed in a video where you mention this but unless I am mistaken the Pro Flo 4 systems do not have transmission management built in. MSD module maybe?
My thoughts exactly, getting vortec heads for my tbi 350 and was thinking about going this route. Was going to go with a Holley Sniper or Terminator but this seems much simpler and more cost effective. But idk how the transmission is going to work if there is no place to hook it up, unless the ECU or harness have a place to plug it up.
@@iDrive4fun93 I noticed after I asked the question, but in the video he has an MSD transmission controller mounted in the engine bay. Standalone transmission controller.
TripleTapHK awesome, thanks. Guess he would have needed that in the first place if he was running a 4l60e on a carbureted engine, idk why I didn’t think of that before lol
TripleTapHK for the price of the Edelbrock and MSD transmission controller, you could get a Holley Terminator which has its own ECU, TCM, and programmer all in one system. But then you would need a compatible intake manifold I guess.
$1800. What does everyone think of the price? Of the top of my head that doesn't seem like a bad price. Plus the convenience factor of knowing it's all new and it works together.
Now we're talking! Proper PFI. Even the dizzy doesn't look too bad, although obviously a trigger wheel and coil pack for wasted or even sequential spark would be nice.
At some point yes. The LS makes stupid power cheap. It's time I embrace that. However, I have sooooo many projects I want to do. It's hard to decide what direction to take. It'd be a lot easier if I had an editor. That way I could focus more on shop work rather than spending a bunch of time editing stuff. It takes forever. Thanks for the comment.
That manifold setup looks f*cking sweet! I want this system for my 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS5 but I am not sure if it will clear the cowl induction hood with that single plane manifold. Maybe a smaller air cleaner? I really enjoy your videos Eric, great job.
Great unboxing/unbagging video! Question...what is the measurement from the bottom of the manifold (where it meets the china-rail) to the top of the throttle body (where the air cleaner mounts)? Just want to make sure I have enough room under my stock hood. Thanks!!
Hey Ik this comments a lil late, hoping someone will see it and be able to help me out, I was looking at getting this and putting it in my 89 350 only thing is it’s says it’s only for pre 1986 obviously you made it work I was just wondering how much wiring you had to do and how hard it was thanks
There’s an App for that! The tablet can be used as a phone if it has wifi and or a cell connection by installing an appropriate application such as Skype
I put this system on my ford 445 FE, the fuel pressure sending unit is about useless, cause on the tablet it reads 138 psi, I called and they told me that it’s not the correct pressure and not to be concerned about it if it was running correctly, I had a few issues getting the idle right, I’m thinking it was probably due to the radical cam,also I used their self contained fuel slump system, nice system, but i had to run a vent line to the fuel tank. Also the distributor gear is composite so it’s compatible with roller cam or non roller cam
Wondering could I ditch my spider injection, restrictive intake, and weak mini injectors for one of these setups and wake up my 97 Vortec 2 door tahoe a bit🤔? Definitely looks like a nice piece.
The issue would be that our system would not work with your stock dash or anything. Why we recommend this for later model vehicles but it would work on a 97 Vortec.
Understood. So I’d need a separate trans controller, would a Dakota digital fix my dash issue? You guys products are the best!!! Are there plans In the works for a similar system that would be compatible with my truck.
Thanks for the video, Eric! I'd really really love to hear your thoughts on how well this system worked. What did you like? What did you not like? Any recommendations for other people who might use this system? Even just a quick few minutes of you sitting and talking to the camera about your thoughts on this system would be great. Thanks again! I love the Dad's Truck project.
I plan to make a follow up video about all the parts I've installed on the truck at the end of the series. I will be going over my experiences with this system in that video. Thanks for your comment.
the progressive linkage may have been an effort to replicate the intake honk of a four barrel perhaps? that is quite thw signature sound for a rod engine. average retail numbers... all in one kits are like 7-11's being convenience stores with the wallet hit at 3am. good morning.
eric im lost and i need help 99 accord 5 spd 4cyl clutch pedal was soft and would stay on the ground here and there. never saw any leaks just assumed it had to be my clutch master replaced clutch master cyl which was a pain. now i cant get it to bleed. i used a hose and bottle and theres pure fluid coming out. all air has to be out makes no sense. i think i may have gotten a defective part. i dont know what to do anymore
This and the auto trans control box have me hoping there is something for my Jeep. '05 and '06 Wranglers can have major issues with there ECU/TCU combo.
mine didn't work right out of the box and edelbrock wasn't any help. before you think i did something wrong after a week of jumping through their techs hoops it started working like it should. it worked great for about a 100 miles now its back to running rough. again they dont seem to want to stand by their product
I like that your using MPI and it looks nice. But this might sound crazy but I’m not really a fan of the 4 barrel look on the throttle body. To me it doesn’t go with the era of that truck because none of them were carb. Nice setup though.
Unless I’m building a long term daily driver ( which may happen at some point) I could never justify the cost of this. Of course I’ve daily driven carb engines for years with no problem. I don’t get why people think they can’t daily drive them. But today’s gas prices and the potential mpg gain is the only reason I would buy this EFI. I’ve considered for a long time building a Chevy C10 or Ford F100 daily driver instead of buying a new modern truck. In that case I could justify this EFI system. On the other hand the extra 2,000 bucks could just go torward a LS or Coyote engine in the first place instead of EFI equipping a old engine. Also money spent on a 6 speed transmission, whether auto or manual, goes a long way in increasing fuel mileage. Without a modern transmission the EFI will only go so far in regard to mpg. On second thought a tremec 6 speed would be on my list first and perhaps EFI later.
I got the xt and it doesnt come with everything needed I had to get a water sensor plug because they have two areas for the water sensor and I had a list of little things needed like their gaskasinch thing totally spelling that wrong to lazy to use google and such But it runs great till after 4 hours the o2 sensor stopped working and for some reason theirs cost 250$ to replace I got them to do it this time put they had a tantrum about how their is no way it could of been defective.
Hey Eric I have a question I recently bought my dream car on offer up a 1960 ford Thunderbird but it has a toasted 352 but I also have a 1984 Mercury cougar with 76,000 original miles on a 302 5.0 would it be worth it for me to use the the 302 in the Thunderbird depending on minimal modifications or would the 302 not be powerful enough to pull the weight the Thunderbird is about 400 lbs heavier but the 352 is 250 lbs heavier than the 302 I'm hoping to use everything I can out if the cougar if I can if not then I'll have to shop for a 390fe
@@ericthecarguy Thanks I have seen both. I meant the video you hopefully shot in actually changing out the carb... taking it off. Putting the TBI on, wiring it, etc. With preferably dynoing it before and after, but that's me being picky.
Not likely. No cellular connection. However, you can use any tablet, you just need to load the Edelbrock software onto it. In fact, I'd recommend it. The Acer tablet is very slow. They make kits that don't come with a tablet that are less expensive.
The Edelbrock app, is just that, an app. You can load it onto any Apple or Android device. You don't need the tablet shown in the video. In fact, I'd recommend a better one as this one is very slow.
Hey Eric.... Thank you. You are one of the creators that inspired me to start my channel. I am grateful. For everything you do, thank you.
Thanks! Good luck with the channel.
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@@anthonyroller8175 Thank you!
Definitely good stuff!
I had occasion to use a wide variety of aftermarket engine parts/assemblies while in business - and there are very VERY few products that are consistently made correctly, fit correctly, assembled correctly, are ready to install out of the box, and perform as advertised, and one of those few companies that deliver as promised is EDELBROCK!
Well done ETCG!
We installed the other version of this unit on a 67 Chevelle SS. 496 ci 13.5:1 compression. System has the tunnel ram style manifold, and absolutely doesn't miss a beat. Very nice kit. Well thought out design and does exactly what it is meant to do. The Chevelle is also an E85 fuel so, no issues at all. Only needed to increase the injector size a bit to compensate.
Looks like a great system. I was considering the Holley MPFI system for my SBC but at half the cost I am now considering the Edelbrock system.
Edelbrock seriously needs to rethink their packaging within the box. I was so surprised that you didnt have any damage to the fuel rails during shipping when you pulled the box top off. Some dense foam or something that would would keep the intake from moving around inside the box.
I ordered rotors last week and UPS had to send them back due to damage during shipping before I even received them. Seriously, damaged rotors?
What a kit!! Thanks for the video.
I’m falling in love with this EFI. I think I can go for it in a near future.
Great video!!!! Now to watch the install on your Dads truck!!! 👍🏻as always!!!
Looks pretty sweet there Eric!
Cool video. Ive always wanted one of those for my mid 70s small block chevy.
I do like these unboxing videos.
Looking forward to the installation!
In a way it's already been installed. th-cam.com/video/h7qowMqZXRA/w-d-xo.html
@@ericthecarguy weird. The order of videos is all out whack and it’s messing with my head. I can’t believe I’m so late to the ETCG party. Glad I finally found you though.
$1800 is just the start, You need a fuel system for efi, regulator, pump relay, 10 micron filter, wires, -6 fittings, and the list goes on and on. So far Im into it $3500! There is a lot they don't mention
Unless your vehicle is already equipped with it
That would be nice under the Christmas tree.
Edelbrock make nice quality stuff, back in the day ive seen more than a few of their Carter clone 4 barrel carbs and they were so easy to set up and tune especially with the electric choke. Holley on the other hand seemed to be way more finicky and always seemed to require re-jetting and lots of playing around to get them running right. Far as I know these Edelbrock intake setups are easy to get going and are virtually trouble free once set up. What a well thought out nicely engineered setup.
the distributor , the olympic flame for petrol heads
Nice intake Eric cant wait to see the performance of that that when all said and done one the ETCGDads Truck ....
I'm concerned that there was no packing material whatsoever around the intake. There' was LOTS of room for that thing to bounce around inside that box. That's probably why the plastic ripped off the one side. I hope everything is 100% ok Eric.
I went with the fitech power adder 600 to save a few hundred bucks.
It has fought me left and right since day one.
It either randomly doesn't want to start, or won't run after it initially fires. Without touching the settings, its behavior changes from day to day.
I'm afraid I'll have to take the hit and pick one of these edelbrocks up soon.
Another EFI project!
Hi Eric. I can’t find the video where you has installed the EFI System. Can you you put a link here please ❤🎉
Hey Eric, what are you using the control your 4L60E transmission? Maybe I have missed in a video where you mention this but unless I am mistaken the Pro Flo 4 systems do not have transmission management built in. MSD module maybe?
My thoughts exactly, getting vortec heads for my tbi 350 and was thinking about going this route. Was going to go with a Holley Sniper or Terminator but this seems much simpler and more cost effective. But idk how the transmission is going to work if there is no place to hook it up, unless the ECU or harness have a place to plug it up.
@@iDrive4fun93 I noticed after I asked the question, but in the video he has an MSD transmission controller mounted in the engine bay. Standalone transmission controller.
TripleTapHK awesome, thanks. Guess he would have needed that in the first place if he was running a 4l60e on a carbureted engine, idk why I didn’t think of that before lol
TripleTapHK for the price of the Edelbrock and MSD transmission controller, you could get a Holley Terminator which has its own ECU, TCM, and programmer all in one system. But then you would need a compatible intake manifold I guess.
@ericthecarguy hey just seen your picture on the entrepreneur wall at rosedale. Im in Engines now .. Love the channel man.. #respect
Rosedale helped get me where I am today. Great school. Good luck with your career.
@ericthecarguy definitely man thanks
I miss your videos Eric. I hope you start back up soon.
Very nice unboxing Eric
$1800. What does everyone think of the price? Of the top of my head that doesn't seem like a bad price. Plus the convenience factor of knowing it's all new and it works together.
I thought it’s more expensive after watching this video, considering the amount of stuff and the quality.
Price is 100% on point for what you get.
1/2 the cost of a similar Holley system 👍🏼
I bet your dad fell in love with this truck again
Now we're talking! Proper PFI. Even the dizzy doesn't look too bad, although obviously a trigger wheel and coil pack for wasted or even sequential spark would be nice.
If it were all 100% Made in USA, the price would be $3k without a tablet
Hey Erik, planning on doing any LS swaps soon?
At some point yes. The LS makes stupid power cheap. It's time I embrace that. However, I have sooooo many projects I want to do. It's hard to decide what direction to take. It'd be a lot easier if I had an editor. That way I could focus more on shop work rather than spending a bunch of time editing stuff. It takes forever. Thanks for the comment.
just ordered the same kit for myself
Perfect 🎉
But wait, put that check book away!
Also included, zip ties!
Eric, Dad’s Truck is cool as F*ck. Fine build and you should be proud.
Thanks!
A caixa super gigante parabéns pelo vídeo canal cada vez mais crescendo cada vez mais
What?! no Edelbrock sticker for the back window?
🤷♂️
Ed Poisson i5 comes with stickers lol
I can’t wait to see how it performs.
That manifold setup looks f*cking sweet! I want this system for my 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS5 but I am not sure if it will clear the cowl induction hood with that single plane manifold. Maybe a smaller air cleaner? I really enjoy your videos Eric, great job.
Is only one o2 sensor enough?
So it's been a year how is this thing holding up? I'm interested in getting one.
Very impressive purchase Eric..... I love the looks of that intake. What mpg do you get in the truck with all this? Super Awesome!!
Dad said he was getting about 16mpg when driving on the Power Tour.
@@ericthecarguy I was hoping this would offer 25 mpg.
Nice product by Edelbrock so lets see it installed .....
th-cam.com/video/h7qowMqZXRA/w-d-xo.html
Nice Acer Tablet they provided
Eric,any updates on this system?
Would appreciate your opinion
Great video! Did you have to change out existing camshaft?
Great unboxing/unbagging video!
Question...what is the measurement from the bottom of the manifold (where it meets the china-rail) to the top of the throttle body (where the air cleaner mounts)? Just want to make sure I have enough room under my stock hood. Thanks!!
Het Eric good video on your dads truck. How is this system doing after some time of using it? Thanks for any feed back.
Just ordered mine
Wow , I like it 😢❤
Thanks Eric for including the links for the fuel pump and fuel pressure PSI regulator. Is the fuel pump external I hope?
I'd also be worried about the workbench scratching the intake manifold or messing with the clean shiny part...
Great video! Would you mind posting which fuel filter and sparkplug wires you used for this Pro Flo4 build?
Hey Ik this comments a lil late, hoping someone will see it and be able to help me out, I was looking at getting this and putting it in my 89 350 only thing is it’s says it’s only for pre 1986 obviously you made it work I was just wondering how much wiring you had to do and how hard it was thanks
There’s an App for that!
The tablet can be used as a phone if it has wifi and or a cell connection by installing an appropriate application such as Skype
Definitely get one of these with my stimulus 😂 do you think it will fit under a c3 corvette hood? (Non L88)
Very nice kit
Lol at the ECU being in bottom of box instead of in the tray
That looks nice, currently fighting with '85 Mercury's 302 CFI system
my condolences
I put this system on my ford 445 FE, the fuel pressure sending unit is about useless, cause on the tablet it reads 138 psi, I called and they told me that it’s not the correct pressure and not to be concerned about it if it was running correctly, I had a few issues getting the idle right, I’m thinking it was probably due to the radical cam,also I used their self contained fuel slump system, nice system, but i had to run a vent line to the fuel tank. Also the distributor gear is composite so it’s compatible with roller cam or non roller cam
Thank you for that info and input. As you'll see in Fridays video, set up wasn't so easy for me either.
That distributor is nice
Wondering could I ditch my spider injection, restrictive intake, and weak mini injectors for one of these setups and wake up my 97 Vortec 2 door tahoe a bit🤔? Definitely looks like a nice piece.
The issue would be that our system would not work with your stock dash or anything. Why we recommend this for later model vehicles but it would work on a 97 Vortec.
Understood. So I’d need a separate trans controller, would a Dakota digital fix my dash issue? You guys products are the best!!! Are there plans In the works for a similar system that would be compatible with my truck.
Just ls swap it
So this doesn't come with a monitor like the Holley does? Also is that an air gap intake they provide in the kit?
I have got to get one for my 78 Lincoln
Thanks for the video, Eric! I'd really really love to hear your thoughts on how well this system worked. What did you like? What did you not like? Any recommendations for other people who might use this system? Even just a quick few minutes of you sitting and talking to the camera about your thoughts on this system would be great. Thanks again! I love the Dad's Truck project.
I plan to make a follow up video about all the parts I've installed on the truck at the end of the series. I will be going over my experiences with this system in that video. Thanks for your comment.
Do they make a black distributor cap for this unit? My engine compartment is blacked out, no red at all.
Very nice manifold
Very nice edelbrock
the progressive linkage may have been an effort to replicate the intake honk of a four barrel perhaps? that is quite thw signature sound for a rod engine. average retail numbers... all in one kits are like 7-11's being convenience stores with the wallet hit at 3am. good morning.
Gizmo Thewytchdoktor actually the SBC only needs the secondaries for WOT conditions.
ok thnks just wondered so how the truck coming along...
would this be something better for the fairmount,Eric?
I have a 89 chevy c1500 with a 350 would it be hard to make everything work with it Dakota gauges ?
eric im lost and i need help 99 accord 5 spd 4cyl clutch pedal was soft and would stay on the ground here and there. never saw any leaks just assumed it had to be my clutch master
replaced clutch master cyl which was a pain. now i cant get it to bleed. i used a hose and bottle and theres pure fluid coming out. all air has to be out makes no sense.
i think i may have gotten a defective part. i dont know what to do anymore
This and the auto trans control box have me hoping there is something for my Jeep. '05 and '06 Wranglers can have major issues with there ECU/TCU combo.
mine didn't work right out of the box and edelbrock wasn't any help. before you think i did something wrong after a week of jumping through their techs hoops it started working like it should. it worked great for about a 100 miles now its back to running
rough. again they dont seem to want to stand by their product
@ericthecarguy Did it come with intake manifold bolts?
I thought you went with the Holley EFI system again... I done did watch every #ETCGDadsTruck... at least 2-4 times
the one for vortec heads is even sexier
sweet googaly moogaly; pretty cool looking Eric; thanks for sharing.
I like that your using MPI and it looks nice. But this might sound crazy but I’m not really a fan of the 4 barrel look on the throttle body. To me it doesn’t go with the era of that truck because none of them were carb. Nice setup though.
They were TBI which looks very similar to a carburetor. See the episode where I pulled the engine.
This intake could help an lt1 guy put a overhead supercharger on top huh?
Unless I’m building a long term daily driver ( which may happen at some point) I could never justify the cost of this. Of course I’ve daily driven carb engines for years with no problem. I don’t get why people think they can’t daily drive them. But today’s gas prices and the potential mpg gain is the only reason I would buy this EFI. I’ve considered for a long time building a Chevy C10 or Ford F100 daily driver instead of buying a new modern truck. In that case I could justify this EFI system. On the other hand the extra 2,000 bucks could just go torward a LS or Coyote engine in the first place instead of EFI equipping a old engine. Also money spent on a 6 speed transmission, whether auto or manual, goes a long way in increasing fuel mileage. Without a modern transmission the EFI will only go so far in regard to mpg. On second thought a tremec 6 speed would be on my list first and perhaps EFI later.
I wonder if you can get this for a 1970 Pontiac 400?
Ermahgod you say it wrong Eric!!! It’s not elderbrock. Edelbrock!!!!
lol, chalk it up to major sleep deprivation. A t-shirt that looks like an Edelbrock logo but says Elderbrock would be funny.
SWEET !
how wad turning your engine with this system
I got the xt and it doesnt come with everything needed I had to get a water sensor plug because they have two areas for the water sensor and I had a list of little things needed like their gaskasinch thing totally spelling that wrong to lazy to use google and such
But it runs great till after 4 hours the o2 sensor stopped working and for some reason theirs cost 250$ to replace I got them to do it this time put they had a tantrum about how their is no way it could of been defective.
Seems edelbrook sent this to every youtuber
„from foreign and domestic parts“ ...Is guess that tablet is a foreign „part“
Hey Eric I have a question I recently bought my dream car on offer up a 1960 ford Thunderbird but it has a toasted 352 but I also have a 1984 Mercury cougar with 76,000 original miles on a 302 5.0 would it be worth it for me to use the the 302 in the Thunderbird depending on minimal modifications or would the 302 not be powerful enough to pull the weight the Thunderbird is about 400 lbs heavier but the 352 is 250 lbs heavier than the 302 I'm hoping to use everything I can out if the cougar if I can if not then I'll have to shop for a 390fe
All that was meant to be one sentence?
Naveen Kumar was I talking to you
Like it, but would prefer to see the Fairmont video changing out the Carb to EFI...
th-cam.com/video/zf48bgB88IY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ssC0Ku1IJVY/w-d-xo.html
@@ericthecarguy Thanks I have seen both. I meant the video you hopefully shot in actually changing out the carb... taking it off. Putting the TBI on, wiring it, etc. With preferably dynoing it before and after, but that's me being picky.
Didn't have time for the Dyno, but the first video shows exactly what you're asking for. th-cam.com/video/zf48bgB88IY/w-d-xo.html
Sorry, wrong video. This is the one you're looking for. th-cam.com/video/Pr-93jijuVo/w-d-xo.html
Man you get the best toys lol
The look in his eyes says he had been cut before😏
Didn't that truck already have an EFI installed?
Yes, but it was a weak sauce TBI system.
Me too on the staples. Me too.
What kind of fuel pump did you upgrade to?
Link in the description.
Can you run duel o2 sensor for a true dual exhaust?
To be perfect, they should sell a kit with fuel pump, hoses and clamps.
sir eric are these more better than stock chevy fuel injection on my stock turd truck...
can runing a eletric fan on your rad give u more cooling in a stock truck or car jusa wondering sir .....
You can adjust this system on the fly. You can't do that with your stock system.
IDK about cooling better, it’s probably about the same, but it may increase fuel economy.
@@ericthecarguy kool thnks for lettin me know laters...
Can use the tablet as a GPS unit for the vehicle?
Not likely. No cellular connection. However, you can use any tablet, you just need to load the Edelbrock software onto it. In fact, I'd recommend it. The Acer tablet is very slow. They make kits that don't come with a tablet that are less expensive.
@@ericthecarguy is it possible to load it on your phone so you can still use the GPS?
The Edelbrock app, is just that, an app. You can load it onto any Apple or Android device. You don't need the tablet shown in the video. In fact, I'd recommend a better one as this one is very slow.
What is better that one or a tunnel ram?
Depends on the application. Tunnel ram is good for bottom end torque.
Could I run this on a truck and still maintain 4x4?
I don't see why not.
Yes you can.
Nice