The devs can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we want stuff for the kids when we get these packs. They could have a lot of Shirley Temple inspired outfits and looks for toddlers along with wallpaper and floors. There was actually a lot of interesting style choices for bassinets and cribs that look vary ornate back in the day
Yeah I struggled to make a child’s outfit to match their parents. I ended up using the school uniform and a lot of cottage living stuff which worked for my game because my kid was active and a tomboy but it would have been nice to have something for kids and toddlers.
In their promotion, butler is an adult. In actual game, job for elders only. In my play, since I've C&D EP, my butler literally chose home made pet food to eat beside other human food.
I remember I bought this pack specifically for the Get Famous pack, I wanted my celebrities to have butlers and a vanity table. I immediately tried to give Judith Ward a butler and it did not go well. The butler did not arrive to the house because, just like any other sim in sims 4, he was too busy talking to the crowd outside her house to be able to get inside!!
I got this pack for the aesthetic. I absolutely love it. Oddly enough where Get Famous feels over the top to me, Vintage Glamour looks perfect. And the clothes that it does have are wonderful. Don’t care much one way or the other about the butler, so to me that’s just a fun bonus, even if problematic at times.
I probably use this pack more than any other stuff pack. The similarities to Get Famous is something I actually appreciate, since I like a few things from one pack but not the other, and I can mix and match.
This pack could’ve been so good 😩 I love the build/buy items but the butler is so glitchy - so tired of EA releasing packs that only half work, I won’t be purchasing any new ones this year.
SatchOnSims - Agree that there are some nice pieces in CAS like the smoking jacket - and peignoir (00:53), which we're probably using for next episode. The build/buy is indeed (03:02) very similar to 'Get Famous' pack. Agree with everything you say about the (04:14) butler npc (great on paper, buggy execution), which is a shame. On a sort-of side note, would be interested in more retro packs, like fashion and objects and gameplay from 1930s, 1940s, and so on. Some 'simmers' put a lot of effort into designing plausible outfits or objects fom different periods of history. It'd be nice to have at least a few packs with this theme.
I agree with everything you pointed out, as far as the butler not working, this is like the nanny, some are good and some are bad, if you get a bad one fire them and hire a different one, if the same one comes to your home kill them off so the game will have to replace them, I hired a nanny that told my sim she didn't clean diapers or messes, she was gone in the blink of an eye.
For a Stuff pack, this is one of the best with the most items/gameplay. Only paranormal stuff is better... If you need more help with the kids, hire a nanny together with a butler. Also praise the butler for better work results... 😉
That room at 2:49 When i first got the Sims 4, bought it along with this pack and a couple others. One of my first houses used was this house and remember remodelling that exact bedroom using all the pink I could find in the VG pack. Before I upgraded to a PC that could handle CC, was obsessed with this pack. So nostalgic 😅😅
I guess, I'll just make a butler in CAS then. I was really looking to play a Bruce-raised-by-Alfred scenario but I should have known EA would drop the ball. Again. My only hope is that a simmer will make a mod to make this pack works, like someone did with Dine Out. 🙃
I absolutely love the CAS and Build/Buy. I'm iffy on getting Get Famous instead because I don't like the World, I'm not interested in the career, and I don't want the reputation system interfering with my regular gameplay.
I remember getting a butler and giving him a tiny house on my lot. But he never used the bed, nothing. Kind of defeats the purpose of giving the butler his own little part of the estate. I never got a butler again.
This is one of the packs I quite like, but would like to see a bit more to it. I like how it plays well together with moschino and get famous - and the butler is something I really enjoy having for my more expensive households. I tend to find that the butler's personality is important - a neat butler will clean up more often than average, for example. I also love that the butler can tell ALL the visitors to go home at the same time. Great especially with parties, where people can linger for too long. I also like the vanity for the kid gameplay since they can get a makeup look wrong! It's also great for photoshoots for weddings or other important times, as well as historical gameplay.
omg i've never had any issues with butlers and it's one of my fave gameplay options. most of my big households, or even single household "supersims" always employ a butler, becaus I find the game unbearable without them.especially with the autonomous leaving of plates and glasses all around the house. with a butler i don't have to look for what is stinking up the place, they'll do it for me, next to gardening, fixing things, cooking etc. i saw someone mention that they always get elder sims, i am playing now with a butler who's a young adult, so i guess it's not always elders. i just... love butlers ok. wish i had one irl.
I have no issues with the Butler.. I had no idea it was bugged for so many people. My Butler is always on top of things .... looking after kids, cooking , cleaning 🤷♀️
Mine apparently can't do anything. They can't cook because there's no room. They can't clean because there's no room. They can't sleep because there's no room. I think you get the point
Not to say the devs are stupid or don’t care at all. It’s just the “more stuff for kids” is something everyone has been asking for. And it also feels like even when they make something nice it feels like the Sims 4 packs make just enough to make the pack valid rather then make it worth it and it’s a bit frustrating
I do agree with you and I wish we had more stuff for kids, but this kit already features cas items as well as gameplay for children. Children can play with the vanity mirror and apply messy make up. They can also spin the mini bar and examine the globe. And also the butler can interact with them and act like a nanny. But in most other packs we get almost nothing for children, specially in occult or career packs. Which makes no sense, I don't know how we are able to have children with magic abilities if they cannot use them. It reminds me of the sims 2 where only adults and older could be occults (and also toddlers could be plantsims but they immediately aged up to adults). They also added nothing for children in get to work which is a pity because they could have added a baked good stand since they added baking and retail stores in the packs.
yeah i really hate to say this, but seems like the organization in Maxis is disorganized and lazy (didn't really put good packs - disregard gameplay). i really hate to say this but it's too obvious. People always blame EA, but i think Maxis staff needs to be responsible too. But if i'm in their shoes i also dont wanna do things outside of my job scope and working hours, but they produced buggy packs and still not suggesting reduction of the price and took the money anyway..
For a butler or housekeeper I just make a sim that's not related live in the household that way I have total control over them. I wonder if there is a mod to fix the butlers in the game. It's sad when the community needs to mod to fix basic DLC functions of a game EA is still working on.
Love this series! Not to state the obvious, but I can’t help noticing a pattern in these reviews… cas and build/buy always ranges from alright to excellent, whereas gameplay and performance are super bad! It’s so sad that the sims team always focus on the superficial stuff rather than giving us an in-depth gameplay experience
CaS stuff is nice, but very small compared to any CaS kit. 5/10 is pretty generous. I'd score it at 2/10. Agree for the build-buy score. Gorgeous... But, I already have most of it from Get Famous. About game play... What you say made me guess that your score would be about 4/10, 5/10 if generous.
A bug I've had with butlers has prevented me from telling them not to do certain things. The option to do so is available, but even when the butler tasks are turned off, the butler will still do those things.
I've had an idea in the back of my head for a while of renovating the Judith Ward house with Vintage Glamour, and also making over her wardrobe. She's very old Hollywood.
Butler should be base game, but I think the build/buy items are great and very worth the price. Use with Decor to the Max and Blooming Rooms for maximum effect.
I don't believe butlers ever were in the basegame since the very first game. I think they always came with expansions. I would rather much have a burglar added to a basegame...
i don't care for make up (although when you say it like that, it do sounds fun), but i thought it was really interesting to have a butler (imagine the one hell of a butler Sebastian). but after seeing other people's gameplays where the butlers didn't do their job, i scratch the idea of buying this pack. thanks for reviewing this.
Basically this pack sums up the Sims 4 situation entirely. Build/Buy mode is promising, Cas is pretty good, gameplay is problematic, and performance is quite concerning and kinda broken. Yup, sounds like a common Sims 4 analysis.
My S4 butler does very little unless given a directive and is almost completely useless. He never eats, bathes or uses the bathroom and only acts on orders to sleep. If he was an alcoholic like in S3 it would be more interesting but S4 removed that. I was especially disappointed that he didn't at least spontaneously do laundry and there is no option to assign that task. However I still added him to my fav family because he's no trouble really and my vampire now has convenient food without hunting every other day and the family's elder mother-in-law has a handy whoohoo diversion when she chooses. Haven't had a party yet but I'd be surprised if he proved himself an asset.
I honestly even tried the butler mod, by lil miss Sam, but I didn’t notice much difference? I might also not be utilizing the mod fully, as my ADHD brain can be apt to do.
I really hope EA would do a vintage glamour refresh and fix the damn butler. But who are we kidding, it's not going to happen. Also all my butlers so far have had the evil trait - like what the hell? so they're randomly mean to their supposed employers. I also found if i fire the butler and request another - they will send the same damn butler! Come on EA....
Ugh love the vanity mirror definitely wish that was base game! Otherwise I agree the pack is a little too close to Get Famous for me to add it to my game.
Checked the reviews on my Xbox, Apparently someone got it to somewhat work recently. I have 11$ on my Microsoft account, and I wanted to get vintage glamor, but I don't really think I want to anymore
My butler doesnt do what I ask him to do, like cooking, he just ignores the interaction or says that he is busy, but he isn’t doing anything, what should I do??? Porfa ayuda
"The buttler doesnt work and the vanity table is a just a mirror" gameplay score 6/10 while home decorator gampley score 1/10. You are really controversial satch lol. I think the buy itens from this pack complement very well Get famous. This pack itens are more 20s century while Get famous is renascence.
It did not come with enough vintage clothes which pissed me off. The butler is a nice idea if they were not so stupid that they start to use their spray bottle on wood.
Butlers should've came with Get Famous. Honestly, this whole pack could've just came in Get Famous. But that would make too much sense. Why create fully fleshed out Expansions when you can take parts out and create smaller packs and make more money? 👍🏽Typical EA.🤦🏽♀
Note, Vintage Glamour came out before Get Famous so technically the comparison should go the opposite way (GF's style is too similar to VGL) 😆 I also think maybe the gameplay section should count for less (or more in the GP and EP reviews), since the focus is supposedly on the "stuff"... Might bring the score down but I mean, that's why I have the SPs that I have - for the stuff 😅 Like dine out, I fix VGL's gameplay with mods. Specifically the control any sim mod for butlers because autonomously, they're just a hassle and being able to direct them when really needed is a lifesaver during gameplay -even if it's simply to make time appropriate meals like breakfast at...breakfast lol
It’s sad that the actual gameplay portions of literally all add on/DLC has been broken since release….even in the smaller packs smh
because fuck people who pay for the game they take your money happily
Honestly, Id love to buy this pack, dine out and my wedding stories but knowing the gameplay is so buggy is what keeps me from getting them!
The devs can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that we want stuff for the kids when we get these packs. They could have a lot of Shirley Temple inspired outfits and looks for toddlers along with wallpaper and floors. There was actually a lot of interesting style choices for bassinets and cribs that look vary ornate back in the day
Random simmers' comments make so much sense, I KNOW EA is being as lazy as possible while raking as much money they can. Exhausting and disgusting.
That is true but this pack came out before toddlers did.
Yeah I struggled to make a child’s outfit to match their parents. I ended up using the school uniform and a lot of cottage living stuff which worked for my game because my kid was active and a tomboy but it would have been nice to have something for kids and toddlers.
In their promotion, butler is an adult. In actual game, job for elders only.
In my play, since I've C&D EP, my butler literally chose home made pet food to eat beside other human food.
Oh my god that’s tragic HAHAHAHA
I remember I bought this pack specifically for the Get Famous pack, I wanted my celebrities to have butlers and a vanity table. I immediately tried to give Judith Ward a butler and it did not go well. The butler did not arrive to the house because, just like any other sim in sims 4, he was too busy talking to the crowd outside her house to be able to get inside!!
I got this pack for the aesthetic. I absolutely love it. Oddly enough where Get Famous feels over the top to me, Vintage Glamour looks perfect. And the clothes that it does have are wonderful. Don’t care much one way or the other about the butler, so to me that’s just a fun bonus, even if problematic at times.
The over the top stuff and gold toilets would only be good for a "Better Call Saul" final season Jimmy sim or Trump sim 🤣
I probably use this pack more than any other stuff pack. The similarities to Get Famous is something I actually appreciate, since I like a few things from one pack but not the other, and I can mix and match.
This pack could’ve been so good 😩 I love the build/buy items but the butler is so glitchy - so tired of EA releasing packs that only half work, I won’t be purchasing any new ones this year.
SatchOnSims - Agree that there are some nice pieces in CAS like the smoking jacket - and peignoir (00:53), which we're probably using for next episode.
The build/buy is indeed (03:02) very similar to 'Get Famous' pack.
Agree with everything you say about the (04:14) butler npc (great on paper, buggy execution), which is a shame.
On a sort-of side note, would be interested in more retro packs, like fashion and objects and gameplay from 1930s, 1940s, and so on.
Some 'simmers' put a lot of effort into designing plausible outfits or objects fom different periods of history. It'd be nice to have at least a few packs with this theme.
i love the review vids, theyre so addicting
I agree with everything you pointed out, as far as the butler not working, this is like the nanny, some are good and some are bad, if you get a bad one fire them and hire a different one, if the same one comes to your home kill them off so the game will have to replace them, I hired a nanny that told my sim she didn't clean diapers or messes, she was gone in the blink of an eye.
For a Stuff pack, this is one of the best with the most items/gameplay. Only paranormal stuff is better... If you need more help with the kids, hire a nanny together with a butler. Also praise the butler for better work results... 😉
That room at 2:49
When i first got the Sims 4, bought it along with this pack and a couple others. One of my first houses used was this house and remember remodelling that exact bedroom using all the pink I could find in the VG pack. Before I upgraded to a PC that could handle CC, was obsessed with this pack. So nostalgic 😅😅
Your review on paranormal stuff made me buy it. Not disappointed
I guess, I'll just make a butler in CAS then. I was really looking to play a Bruce-raised-by-Alfred scenario but I should have known EA would drop the ball. Again. My only hope is that a simmer will make a mod to make this pack works, like someone did with Dine Out.
🙃
Dear Carl…
I absolutely love the CAS and Build/Buy. I'm iffy on getting Get Famous instead because I don't like the World, I'm not interested in the career, and I don't want the reputation system interfering with my regular gameplay.
I bought the pack for the CAS, and I'm absolutely with you. This is very much my go-to pack for wealthy sims and formal wear.
Get Famous and Bowling Night stuff are the two that work best together. You can make GF work with VG but it almost clashes
i own this pack and didnt even know about the vanity use. this is why i love these reviews, i always learn something new
I remember getting a butler and giving him a tiny house on my lot. But he never used the bed, nothing. Kind of defeats the purpose of giving the butler his own little part of the estate. I never got a butler again.
This is one of the packs I quite like, but would like to see a bit more to it. I like how it plays well together with moschino and get famous - and the butler is something I really enjoy having for my more expensive households. I tend to find that the butler's personality is important - a neat butler will clean up more often than average, for example. I also love that the butler can tell ALL the visitors to go home at the same time. Great especially with parties, where people can linger for too long.
I also like the vanity for the kid gameplay since they can get a makeup look wrong! It's also great for photoshoots for weddings or other important times, as well as historical gameplay.
Agree, same applies to the nannies you hire some are bad so you have to fire them, not sure he knows this.
omg i've never had any issues with butlers and it's one of my fave gameplay options. most of my big households, or even single household "supersims" always employ a butler, becaus I find the game unbearable without them.especially with the autonomous leaving of plates and glasses all around the house. with a butler i don't have to look for what is stinking up the place, they'll do it for me, next to gardening, fixing things, cooking etc. i saw someone mention that they always get elder sims, i am playing now with a butler who's a young adult, so i guess it's not always elders.
i just... love butlers ok. wish i had one irl.
I have no issues with the Butler.. I had no idea it was bugged for so many people. My Butler is always on top of things .... looking after kids, cooking , cleaning 🤷♀️
My butler always finds a way to get underneath my stairs. Very annoying.
Mine apparently can't do anything. They can't cook because there's no room. They can't clean because there's no room. They can't sleep because there's no room.
I think you get the point
@@Pressbutan oh my goodness ! My toddlers have the tendancy to do that
@@evie-mae8923 flippin' heck 🫨
@@missdukette2168 yeah. At least the build stuff is good tho
Not to say the devs are stupid or don’t care at all.
It’s just the “more stuff for kids” is something everyone has been asking for. And it also feels like even when they make something nice it feels like the Sims 4 packs make just enough to make the pack valid rather then make it worth it and it’s a bit frustrating
I do agree with you and I wish we had more stuff for kids, but this kit already features cas items as well as gameplay for children. Children can play with the vanity mirror and apply messy make up. They can also spin the mini bar and examine the globe. And also the butler can interact with them and act like a nanny.
But in most other packs we get almost nothing for children, specially in occult or career packs. Which makes no sense, I don't know how we are able to have children with magic abilities if they cannot use them. It reminds me of the sims 2 where only adults and older could be occults (and also toddlers could be plantsims but they immediately aged up to adults). They also added nothing for children in get to work which is a pity because they could have added a baked good stand since they added baking and retail stores in the packs.
yeah i really hate to say this, but seems like the organization in Maxis is disorganized and lazy (didn't really put good packs - disregard gameplay). i really hate to say this but it's too obvious. People always blame EA, but i think Maxis staff needs to be responsible too. But if i'm in their shoes i also dont wanna do things outside of my job scope and working hours, but they produced buggy packs and still not suggesting reduction of the price and took the money anyway..
For a butler or housekeeper I just make a sim that's not related live in the household that way I have total control over them. I wonder if there is a mod to fix the butlers in the game. It's sad when the community needs to mod to fix basic DLC functions of a game EA is still working on.
Love this series! Not to state the obvious, but I can’t help noticing a pattern in these reviews… cas and build/buy always ranges from alright to excellent, whereas gameplay and performance are super bad! It’s so sad that the sims team always focus on the superficial stuff rather than giving us an in-depth gameplay experience
CaS stuff is nice, but very small compared to any CaS kit. 5/10 is pretty generous. I'd score it at 2/10.
Agree for the build-buy score. Gorgeous... But, I already have most of it from Get Famous.
About game play... What you say made me guess that your score would be about 4/10, 5/10 if generous.
A bug I've had with butlers has prevented me from telling them not to do certain things. The option to do so is available, but even when the butler tasks are turned off, the butler will still do those things.
I've had an idea in the back of my head for a while of renovating the Judith Ward house with Vintage Glamour, and also making over her wardrobe. She's very old Hollywood.
Butler should be base game, but I think the build/buy items are great and very worth the price. Use with Decor to the Max and Blooming Rooms for maximum effect.
I mean… maids are base game. And nannies. And caterers. Are butlers so common we need that base game too?
I don't believe butlers ever were in the basegame since the very first game. I think they always came with expansions. I would rather much have a burglar added to a basegame...
@@bookcat123 Yes
Nice review and I agree in lots of points of it but toddlers weren't a thing when Vintage Glamour Stuff came out, just by a month...
Haven't had a problem with this one! I honestly really love it.
i don't care for make up (although when you say it like that, it do sounds fun), but i thought it was really interesting to have a butler (imagine the one hell of a butler Sebastian). but after seeing other people's gameplays where the butlers didn't do their job, i scratch the idea of buying this pack. thanks for reviewing this.
Basically this pack sums up the Sims 4 situation entirely. Build/Buy mode is promising, Cas is pretty good, gameplay is problematic, and performance is quite concerning and kinda broken. Yup, sounds like a common Sims 4 analysis.
My S4 butler does very little unless given a directive and is almost completely useless. He never eats, bathes or uses the bathroom and only acts on orders to sleep. If he was an alcoholic like in S3 it would be more interesting but S4 removed that. I was especially disappointed that he didn't at least spontaneously do laundry and there is no option to assign that task. However I still added him to my fav family because he's no trouble really and my vampire now has convenient food without hunting every other day and the family's elder mother-in-law has a handy whoohoo diversion when she chooses. Haven't had a party yet but I'd be surprised if he proved himself an asset.
Love your Sims content man
I just read your guidelines and what's wrong with Eliza? She's a good townie 🤭
I honestly even tried the butler mod, by lil miss Sam, but I didn’t notice much difference? I might also not be utilizing the mod fully, as my ADHD brain can be apt to do.
Half of my Sims have the Vintage Glamor glasses 👓
my favourite simstuber :D
you should make a patreon so simps like me can don8
not me wanting this just for the globe bar (for tiny home builds) and the makeup/vanity mirror lol
I really hope EA would do a vintage glamour refresh and fix the damn butler. But who are we kidding, it's not going to happen. Also all my butlers so far have had the evil trait - like what the hell? so they're randomly mean to their supposed employers. I also found if i fire the butler and request another - they will send the same damn butler! Come on EA....
Ugh love the vanity mirror definitely wish that was base game! Otherwise I agree the pack is a little too close to Get Famous for me to add it to my game.
Checked the reviews on my Xbox, Apparently someone got it to somewhat work recently. I have 11$ on my Microsoft account, and I wanted to get vintage glamor, but I don't really think I want to anymore
I got this pack for my bougie Sims who insisted on a butler
HELP CARL!!! We need you again! 🤣🤣
Take a shot every time Satch says "Really Really" 😊😅
My butler doesnt do what I ask him to do, like cooking, he just ignores the interaction or says that he is busy, but he isn’t doing anything, what should I do??? Porfa ayuda
"The buttler doesnt work and the vanity table is a just a mirror" gameplay score 6/10 while home decorator gampley score 1/10. You are really controversial satch lol.
I think the buy itens from this pack complement very well Get famous. This pack itens are more 20s century while Get famous is renascence.
hi, do the butlers only clean up messes? or do they also do laundry etc?
It did not come with enough vintage clothes which pissed me off. The butler is a nice idea if they were not so stupid that they start to use their spray bottle on wood.
The CAS in this pack looks very empty..
I love the build buy for this black, but the swatches kill me. It’s either too tacky and bright or just a bright white :(
Is there a mod to fix the butler? Such a good feature lost.
You do have to tell the butler to go to sleep
Butlers should've came with Get Famous. Honestly, this whole pack could've just came in Get Famous. But that would make too much sense. Why create fully fleshed out Expansions when you can take parts out and create smaller packs and make more money? 👍🏽Typical EA.🤦🏽♀
My butler gets drunk all day long
That sounds very annoying to play with but it’s also hilarious
The stuff packs need...more stuff. It's a con to pay £4.99 for such few items. It's not right! lol But we do it anyway.
Pretty sure you’re thinking of kits, not stuff packs?
Wow this pack has always worked perfectly for me. Maybe you got a bug
I have no idea that globe bar existed 😅
make a video review of LittleMsSam's Better Butler mod pls < 3
DO REALM OF MAGIC
Every time I want to cry when I remember that someone actually paid money for this...
I have to say I do quite like this pack, also I don't have get famous
I fkn luv your default male sim, he has that 1000 yard married stare.
Note, Vintage Glamour came out before Get Famous so technically the comparison should go the opposite way (GF's style is too similar to VGL) 😆 I also think maybe the gameplay section should count for less (or more in the GP and EP reviews), since the focus is supposedly on the "stuff"... Might bring the score down but I mean, that's why I have the SPs that I have - for the stuff 😅
Like dine out, I fix VGL's gameplay with mods. Specifically the control any sim mod for butlers because autonomously, they're just a hassle and being able to direct them when really needed is a lifesaver during gameplay -even if it's simply to make time appropriate meals like breakfast at...breakfast lol
hmm i do agree, but stuff pack supposedly includes all three CAS, bb, and gameplay..? otherwise it'll just be two kits