Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader, 2 DVD set | eBay These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader.
Excellent information and presentation for an old lady new to muzzleloading. You are the best! I echo all the positive comments from previous subscribers. Thank you.
I am looking to get into muzzelloader for fun...possibly hunting but I am not that into it anymore. I found your video and even though it is 5 years old, I have to say this is one of the best TH-cam videos ever.. Seriously man, you are a great talker and you really take your time and actually help without adding a bunch of fluff...thank you for that! Idk who the heck you are but I subbed and will be checking out more of your videos!
Very excellent presentation for all levels of Muzzle Loader owners. You provided a very detailed presentation and I appreciate it. The only thing I'd add is the issue of UNLOADING AFTER THE HUNT. There will be times when you'll need to unload a fully charged MZ. This is were that breech plug removed comes in handy. When I first started , you had to shoot it to clear the MZ. MZ's like yours are excellent for the issue of unloading after the hunt. Again, not nicpicking just adding some additional information. You earn my Sub!!!! Semper Fi
I inherited a inline muzzle loader and was told its been loaded for 5 years what steps should I take to make this safe? I have no experience with them at all
albuquerque firing range! Got a muzzleloader hunt in unit 13 in a couple weeks for elk. Been scouting for 2 years. Super excited. Great video, helped a lot.
Does elk taste good looks like cow beef I would like to try some but in NJ we don't have elk we have Crack heads. I saw some dude on TH-cam cooking elk on the grill and man it looked so good. I asked at the meat market and some dude told me people don't eat elk again nj lots of tree huggers in Bergen County you can't even kill deer.
Very nicely done. I've not yet used an inline but it certainly looks easy enough. I really appreciate the calm and easy manner you teach with. I find it rare in younger folks, you my friend are a rare breed. Good work. Hope this year's(2019) season is good for you. Happy hunting from an old timer.
William J. Stilianessis much appreciated, William! I am honored by the words of an “old timer” such as yourself. I just posted a new video kicking off the new muzzleloader series. Let me know how that one looks, Will, when you have some time. I appreciate it! -Gregg Flores
Hey man, great job. After many, many years of enjoying firearms and most things that go with it I am finally interested in blackpowder. Your video was very informative and well put together. I originally was considering going with the build kits of the older style black powder rifles but after seeing your video I may go with an in-line muzzleloader. The in-line firearms seem like a mix of modern rifles and older styled black powder muzzleloaders. I'll be sure to check out some more of your videos. Well done. Stay safe, thanks again and God bless.
Great video. Had to sub right after it finished. Been looking at getting this exact muzzleloader and this was most helpful. That cleaning video sounds like a good idea
Good video, saw you mention that every two shots you swab, as someone who target shoots civil war era muzzleloaders I think they have an advantage for days at the range, not having to swab every few shots. Thanks for the info!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns You can either get reproductions or actual civil war rifles, at the current stage most of them are made in Italy so they’re in short supply at the moment as they’re still recovering from lockdowns. I’ve found a few actual ones in gunshops and there’s plenty online (at least there was) though I’d advise taking it to a gunsmith if you buy online. They’re great fun and incredibly accurate I’d highly recommend trying it out, on TH-cam there’s a video of some guys nailing targets at 500 yards with a P1853 Enfield and an Enfield Whitworth without a scope!
I saw there was a muzzleloading season and wondered if people were really out there hunting with muskets. I should never underestimate the modern sportsman! lol
Actually, I have seen a video recently that got out to 300+ yds. no problem! Muzzleloaders are legendary. It's the shooter that also needs to become legendary.
The Creedmore (started as a competition between the Sharp's Rifle Company breechloaders and John Rigby & Co. muzzleloaders) and Bisley (started as a competition for the British Volunteer Rifle Corps (which unfortunately devolved into the almost worthless British NRA, no direct relation to the US one)) matches were 400, 800 and 1000 yards, with muzzleloaders in the 1860's and 70's. Actually the world record groups set by those rifles at those distances stood until the 1980's or 90's. Accuracy with firearms is all in the ammunition and the loading, with muzzleloaders, you do it all there on the firing line, basically. Most people just don't put the time, effort, and attention to detail into them to take them to their full potential.
Well, buck season is over for rifles, my son bought me a black power gun just like the one you have. Fixing to go to the lease and give it a work out.. Man, what a slog this thing throws out there, Thanks for all your help ?? Dave, Texas
Eric Newman my pleasure Eric! Good luck out there. Check out the new muzzleloader series on our channel as well. Part 1 just released! Thanks for watching! -Gregg
Yep, can't use sabots on your bullets, or pelletized powder charges (as shown in the video) either. For an outdoors/hunting/fishing focused state, we sure do come up with some stupid rules..... *insert eye roll here Oh well, muzzleloader antelope tag in my pocket, season 3 weeks away!
I had one of those in a Northwest ignition and I had no problem shooting patch round ball with it I had no idea what I did with it though I still can't find it to this day
@@WhereTheRiverRuns I was living in New Jersey at the time and it wasn't registered so therefore I really couldn't have reported it missing I bought it in Pennsylvania I wasn't going to wait 6 months to buy a non-firearm
Eliseo Aleman thanks for watching my friend! This is a CVA Accura. We justa posted a new muzzleloader video. We got a lot of questions from this video so we decided to launch a full 3 part series on muzzleloaders.
Looking to get back into deer hunting ( live in minnesota) . Just saw a buck stalker 50 cal muzzle loader. You video is very in formitive. Would you point me to all your videos on this muzzle loader; so I can get the most information on everything about it. I think I will be picking up up because saw a camouflage one a Runnings Store and under $300.00 to me is a good value. I had a Marlin 30-30 years ago from K- Mart and my dad only paid $200.00. So any good deer rifle under $300.00 is a rifle for me. Thank you Dave Chatelle
Hey Dave. Here are some other videos I’ve created on this subject: th-cam.com/video/ewrXZJ6Jyus/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/VpAj2yBcqCs/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching! I’ll be producing a shooting segment soon. So stay tuned! Gregg Flores
Here’s what I suggest. Decide on a budget. Then pick 3 muzzleloaders in that range and start doing research on them. Read a lot of reviews. Ask a lot of questions. This will give you an idea of what you should expect if and when you actually buy it. No surprises. That’s kind of how I do it!
Thank you sir! You have no idea how helpful this was. I bought one off of a friend but had no idea as to how to use it. I got it because it sounded fun and now I’m excited to shoot it. Where are you from?
Kelly Ruiz Hi, Kelly! Glad this helped! We’re working on a shooting and cleaning video too! We are based in Albuquerque, New Mexico. How about you? -Gregg Flores
thanks for the vid, beginning to learn muzzle loaders, sorry if i missed it- you said you like that muzzleloader a few times, particualrly when mentioning that it comes apart to clean, but i what is it?
I’m new to muzzle loading, I was told by a veteran muzzle loader, never to ever use bore butter in the barrel with a sabot bullet it’s met for the old style ball and cloth type black powders. I dunno if that’s true, like I say I’m new to it
Earl Karow I’m going to cover the sighting in on Part 2 of our new inline muzzleloader series, Earl. The first part is now available. It’s a different video than this one here. We plan to shoot parts 2 and 3 within the next 2 weeks. Here’s a quick recap if you need the info now though. Be consistent with the amount of powder you use. Whether that’s 100 or 150 grains of powder. Keep your powder dry and your barrel clean. Load your muzzleloader. Take a shot. Every 2 shots go ahead and clean it out. Just get the majority of the powder cleaned out of the barrel. If you can’t load your muzzleloader, it needs to be cleaned. Look for part two of the new inline muzzleloader series this month, Earl, and thanks for watching! -Gregg Flores
for sighting in a scope make sure; 1) that your scopes' vertical reticle matches a known 100% vertical line such as a plumb bob line or as I have done, to drawn a line against a 4 ft level on a wall. 1a) during the lining up of the scope's reticle make sure that the rifle itself is PLUMB!. 2) set a target with a good bulls eye @ 25 yds approximately the same level as your rifle is on it's rest and the barrel close to level horizontally as possible...this bullseyes is your point of aim. 3) remove breech plug from MZ and set up on a stable rest, and look through the bore to see the bulls eye centering it closely within the bore. 4) DO NOT MOVE the MZ and adjust both windage & elevations turrets to align the crosshairs on the bulls eye (point of aim). 5) now fire the gun at 50 yds with a large target to see where the bullets impact the target and adjust accordlingly!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns I am too. Was out at the range yesterday sighting in my muzzleloader. I have the traditions peep sight (fiber optic front sight). Did good at 100yds. Can hit the paper at 200 yds but it’s a guessing game…I’ll have to try to find that globe sight.
Hey I never got into muzzleloaders but now I'm liking it. Can you tell me if they are louder than a .22 pistol? People say that black powder guns have a quieter but longer "bang". Do you think that a homemade supressor can help? Thanks
@@WhereTheRiverRuns Yes there's one from SilencerCo Maxim 50 and if I'm not mistaken it costs 1000 so I forgot it instantly (btw I don't understand that fully, it's not classified as a supressor so no nfa regulations since it's permanently connected to the barrel)
If you want this to go subsonic how many grains of powder do you use? I would be interested in how quiet this thing would be if you used a subsonic load and a suppressor? I bet this could be a really silent hunting tool
paulrun111 hey Paul! A safe way to do it is, once you’re sure you have a true misfire and the weapon isn’t going to shoot, remove your primer and open the action. Remove the breach plug entirely (another reason an easily removable breach plug is a great feature to have). With the breach plug removed, you can then push your load out with your ramrod. With everything out, wouldn’t be a bad idea to make sure your barrel is clean and dry before loading another round and taking the next shot. Great question! -Gregg
Well. Every state has their own laws. In NM, a muzzleloader is not considered a high powered rifle, and, last I heard, even a felon could own and hunt with a muzzleoader here. There are no background checks, for example, for anyone purchasing a muzzleloader in NM.
So a friend of mine's been using this gun but he's been loading it with 70 grains of smokeless powder. So far it's been going okay but, should I be worried?
The horror stories I’ve heard associated with smokeless powder have been enough to keep me far away from it. I have no personal experience with it. Seems unsafe but I couldn’t speak from personal experience.
What is a cheap bullet you can shoot out of these I tried patch round ball and it's only accurate to about 50 yards with a 50 grain powder charge which is probably not enough for anyting I'm thinking about going with the Hornady Great Plains bullet or maybe casting some Lee real molds
hey man awesome video! Do you clean your barrel every time you take a shot? I noticed we live in the same area, I haven't been to that gun range in awhile. Good luck on your hunts.
Probably every 2 shots I’ll use the brush to clear fouling. When I’m at the range. I’ve noticed any less than that and it becomes really hard to load a round.
Avery Black In states that offer “draw hunts”, where people have to basically put their name into a hat and draw a lottery ticket to hunt, you have better odds by applying for a muzzleloader hunt. Rifle hunts are by far the most popular so you can likely draw more hunts if you put in for a muzzleloader hunt. That’s really the only edge. Rifles have a longer reach and are much easier to reload. Thanks for watching! -Gregg
For here in NC. Muzzle load opens a month before rifle. So that means you get a head start of hunting white tail deer before everyone else. Reason why I'm here trying to see if its something I want to do.
Every time I see or read about smokeless, I hear about someone’s head being accidentally blown up. Smokeless powder is not safe. At least, according to the videos and articles I’ve seen. Smokeless powder and in-line muzzleoaders can’t safely be used together from what I’ve seen/read/heard.
@@gregmcb5305 okay, Greg. Good to know. They’ve definitely got me scared. Haha! But it’s more a lack of experience. I have no experience with it. So every time I hear smokeless I hear “death”. Hahaha!!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns haha no worries, you should look into it. A 50cal muzzle loader running slow burn smokeless powder at subsonic speeds ie 950fps with a good twist rate would be a dream for hunting!(but that’s just me I like shooting subsonic)
I own the Acurra and it’s been great. Harvested my first mule deer with it. My brother owns the Optima. Also likes it. Seems like they’re a fairly decent muzzleloader for the price.
PANDURO 80 thanks for watching, my friend. To my knowledge, NM requires background checks for all new firearm purchases. Muzzleloaders included. You might call Sportsmans Warehouse to verify.
just bought one last night and no there was no background check , the gun I bought before Christmas took around 15 minutes and last night I was in and out
@@WhereTheRiverRuns muzzle loading Black powder guns don't require any paperwork in most states. That includes cap n' ball revolvers. Considered "Non-guns" lol!
Serge Ducharme right on the money, Serge. I too see a lot of folks getting misfires and blaming the weapon. All the while, the Bullet wasn’t properly seated! Or the powder was wet!
warning: If you have a misfire, these instructions say to wait one minute but you have to wait two minutes not one minute. You should change this video immediately before somebody gets hurt or killed.
09 Honda It seems like they did it to offer a season between archery and rifle. The muzzleloader season offers the benefits of a rifle combined with rutting elk. It’s a good hunt if you can draw it!
It's a good habit..if your loading outdoors during winter or very damp air or hot sweaty hands it can over time sometimes if the weather is crappy too while still hunting and if you touch your pellet it can make hard spots or clump spots and cause an uneven or even a delay in fire.. anyways doing small things like taking pellet care are small things that add up to one being and I feel taking all necessary steps into safety and care while handling a dangerous weapon ( not firearm lol) so although I've heard others say it's ok to touch them and heard many say don't so I'm gonna choose to keep the habit just to keep that extra amount of structure in discipline ☺️ imo..
Of Course Americans will use English rules to pronounce foreign words but Sabot is French for "shoe". It is part of the word "sabotage" coined when a disgruntled factory worker tossed a shoe into a machine to deliberately foul it up. It's pronounced "sa-bo'" not "sabbit". So it literally means a shoe for the bullet.
Every state has many different laws for muzzle hunting. A few do not have a specific season. Some like Colorado are complicated. So be sure to do your homework maybe even before you get into it. Colorado doesn’t allow pellets, or sabots, or scope sights. Like I said homework.
I don't like it, the rifle I mean. I'll wager a bet that I can load my old fashioned ball and cap muzzleloader faster than that in-line. Oh, and be just as successful in the hunt. As far as cleaning, I swab out my barrel about every 3rd shot and haven't lost any accuracy or had a misfire. I have a cleaning jig that screws into the end of my ramrod, and I just put a pre-moistened cleaning patch in the jig and swab away. Then, at the end of the day, I throughly clean the rifle at home.
@@WhereTheRiverRuns - What I have is a Lyman Great Plains rifle that I purchased 30 years ago. I have since replaced the barrel with a Green Mountain 1:70 twist barrel that gives much better accuracy using round ball. This was back when Green Mountain offered a drop in barrel for this particular rifle. However, Lyman still offers a Great Plains rifle in 1:66 twist for round ball which is still really good. I replaced the barrel because I accidentally purchased my rifle with a 1:32 twist (I believe) which sucks for round ball accuracy, but okay for mini ball. I prefer shooting round ball myself. That's just the old timer in me, LOL...
WOW - first time I've even see an inline muzzle loader. Very interesting, thanks a bunch for posting so much info in one clip!
Thanks for watching my friend! -Gregg Flores
Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader, 2 DVD set | eBay
These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader.
Thank you sir for this video, this is by far the best step by step video regarding how to operate a muzzleloader!
Wow! Thanks for the kind words! Glad I could help! -Gregg Flores
Excellent information and presentation for an old lady new to muzzleloading. You are the best! I echo all the positive comments from previous subscribers. Thank you.
Well thank you so much, my friend. That means the world to me. -Gregg Flores
I am looking to get into muzzelloader for fun...possibly hunting but I am not that into it anymore. I found your video and even though it is 5 years old, I have to say this is one of the best TH-cam videos ever.. Seriously man, you are a great talker and you really take your time and actually help without adding a bunch of fluff...thank you for that! Idk who the heck you are but I subbed and will be checking out more of your videos!
Thanks Johnathan! I really appreciate the kind words. I’m glad I was able to help a little. Let me know how it all goes for you. -Gregg Flores
Very excellent presentation for all levels of Muzzle Loader owners. You provided a very detailed presentation and I appreciate it.
The only thing I'd add is the issue of UNLOADING AFTER THE HUNT. There will be times when you'll need to unload a fully charged MZ. This is were that breech plug removed comes in handy.
When I first started , you had to shoot it to clear the MZ. MZ's like yours are excellent for the issue of unloading after the hunt.
Again, not nicpicking just adding some additional information.
You earn my Sub!!!!
Semper Fi
Randy, I'm honored to earn the subscription of a Marine! Thanks for watching and for the additional advice on unloading! -Gregg Flores
Great job I watched thus with my son twice we get our rifle in a few days we will hit the woods. Thanks for the video and the tips.
Albin, awesome. Thanks for watching. We have a couple other muzzleloader videos. Be sure to check them out. Might be of use! -Gregg
Very informative, going out this weekend with a borrowed in-line Muzzleloader and may be buying it.
Same im just a kid what it the best way to shoot a muzzleloader im10
Awesome Rick. Let me know how it goes! -Gregg Flores
I inherited a inline muzzle loader and was told its been loaded for 5 years what steps should I take to make this safe? I have no experience with them at all
Your video was actually very informative,a cleaning video would top it off for us new people thanks
JR Malone thanks for watching! I’m working on the cleaning video! Should be up in February! -Gregg Flores
albuquerque firing range! Got a muzzleloader hunt in unit 13 in a couple weeks for elk. Been scouting for 2 years. Super excited. Great video, helped a lot.
garneroutlaw good luck on your hunt!! Thanks for watching! Let us know how the hunt goes, my friend! -Gregg
Does elk taste good looks like cow beef I would like to try some but in NJ we don't have elk we have Crack heads. I saw some dude on TH-cam cooking elk on the grill and man it looked so good. I asked at the meat market and some dude told me people don't eat elk again nj lots of tree huggers in Bergen County you can't even kill deer.
Great video. Just now researching the muzzleloader.
Thanks for watching, my friend!
Great advice. Just 2 friends talking about something new.
Thanks brother!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns You are welcome brother.
Just got one, thanks for all the tips. Would definitely like to see and in depth cleaning video!
I’ll be putting that video together next week, CT! Thanks for watching! -Gregg
Excellent video for a beginner, thank you!
Glad I could help even a little, Montahna! Thanks for watching! -Gregg Flores
Great video man. Very informative I’m looking at getting into Muzzleloading and this video helped.
Thomas Andrews glad it helped Thomas! Thanks for watching!
Thomas Andrews we will absolutely do an in depth cleaning video for you, Thomas! Thanks for the suggestion!
Nice video. This is good for a beginner or intro to inline to watch. Thanks for posting.
Jeremy Aragon thanks for watching Jeremy and for the feedback! Much appreciate!
Great intro video. Thanks for making it
Thanks for watching, Scott! -Gregg Flores
Thank you for making this video. very informative and helpful.
serhat cetinkaya thanks for watching, Serhat!
Excellent video.Great job
Thank you William! -Gregg Flores
This is an awesome video I’m new to muzzleloader hunting and was very informative
I’m glad it helped out. Thanks for watching and for the kind words! -Gregg Flores
Very nicely done. I've not yet used an inline but it certainly looks easy enough. I really appreciate the calm and easy manner you teach with. I find it rare in younger folks, you my friend are a rare breed. Good work. Hope this year's(2019) season is good for you. Happy hunting from an old timer.
William J. Stilianessis much appreciated, William! I am honored by the words of an “old timer” such as yourself. I just posted a new video kicking off the new muzzleloader series. Let me know how that one looks, Will, when you have some time. I appreciate it! -Gregg Flores
Ain't that the truth.
Really well done. Thank you for the upload.
Thanks for watching, Carey! I’m glad I could help a little! -Gregg Flores
Hey man, great job. After many, many years of enjoying firearms and most things that go with it I am finally interested in blackpowder. Your video was very informative and well put together. I originally was considering going with the build kits of the older style black powder rifles but after seeing your video I may go with an in-line muzzleloader. The in-line firearms seem like a mix of modern rifles and older styled black powder muzzleloaders. I'll be sure to check out some more of your videos. Well done. Stay safe, thanks again and God bless.
Thank you for watching my friend! And for the kind words. I really try and out out USEFUL videos. Not just content for the sake of content.
@@WhereTheRiverRuns
You have some really good stuff brother. Liked and subbed.
@@notsosilentmajority1 thank you my friend!
Wow great video. Done like a pro!
Thanks my friend!
Great Great Video thanks for Share all your Experience
Thanks for watching! -Gregg Flores
I really like this. Thank you for your video.
Thank you for watching! -Gregg Flores
Great video. Had to sub right after it finished. Been looking at getting this exact muzzleloader and this was most helpful. That cleaning video sounds like a good idea
Thanks for subbing, Randal! Much appreciated. I’ll get on that cleaning video next! -Gregg
Good luck on your hunts coming up!!
Thanks buddy im thinking of getting a inline muzzleloader. This helps alot
My pleasure, Brad. I’m shooting the muzzleloader cleaning video this week! Stay tuned!
Good video, saw you mention that every two shots you swab, as someone who target shoots civil war era muzzleloaders I think they have an advantage for days at the range, not having to swab every few shots. Thanks for the info!
Lee, thanks for the kind words my friend. And thanks for watching! How difficult is it to obtain a civil war era muzzleloader?? -Gregg Flores
@@WhereTheRiverRuns You can either get reproductions or actual civil war rifles, at the current stage most of them are made in Italy so they’re in short supply at the moment as they’re still recovering from lockdowns. I’ve found a few actual ones in gunshops and there’s plenty online (at least there was) though I’d advise taking it to a gunsmith if you buy online.
They’re great fun and incredibly accurate I’d highly recommend trying it out, on TH-cam there’s a video of some guys nailing targets at 500 yards with a P1853 Enfield and an Enfield Whitworth without a scope!
@@mrsteel250 wow! I may have to find one for myself! Thanks for the info, Lee!
Buying one tomorrow. Very helpful. Thanks.
John Wesch awesome. Glad to help John. Let me know which one you pick!!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns coworker sold me a Thompson Omega.
John Wesch hows it shooting???
I've a blued CVA Wolf that's got the tool-less breach plug also. Makes it easy to use the .50cal muzzle-loader bore snake too.
Warrior526 it really does. Nice to have easy access! Thanks for watching, my friend. -Gregg Flores
good vid. im just gettin into muzzleloading this yr
Good luck! Let me know how it goes!!
I saw there was a muzzleloading season and wondered if people were really out there hunting with muskets. I should never underestimate the modern sportsman! lol
From what i gather that was basically the original idea
In PA there is a season for muskets only. Usually starts first week of January.
Yes a Cleaning video would be nice. I'm new to black powder so I need all the help I can get lol
The cleaning video is up my friend! Here’s the link:
th-cam.com/video/VpAj2yBcqCs/w-d-xo.html
Actually, I have seen a video recently that got out to 300+ yds. no problem! Muzzleloaders are legendary. It's the shooter that also needs to become legendary.
WarriorforGoD9 i hear you! Practice makes all the difference!
The Creedmore (started as a competition between the Sharp's Rifle Company breechloaders and John Rigby & Co. muzzleloaders) and Bisley (started as a competition for the British Volunteer Rifle Corps (which unfortunately devolved into the almost worthless British NRA, no direct relation to the US one)) matches were 400, 800 and 1000 yards, with muzzleloaders in the 1860's and 70's. Actually the world record groups set by those rifles at those distances stood until the 1980's or 90's. Accuracy with firearms is all in the ammunition and the loading, with muzzleloaders, you do it all there on the firing line, basically. Most people just don't put the time, effort, and attention to detail into them to take them to their full potential.
Well, buck season is over for rifles, my son bought me a black power gun just like the one you have. Fixing to go to the lease and give it a work out.. Man, what a slog this thing throws out there, Thanks for all your help ?? Dave, Texas
D Grass Sounds great! Let me know how it goes out there and thanks for watching! -Gregg Flores
What kind of muzzleloader is it ?
Thanks for the break down very helpful!
Eric Newman my pleasure Eric! Good luck out there. Check out the new muzzleloader series on our channel as well. Part 1 just released! Thanks for watching! -Gregg
Nice job. I will try to become a black powder rifle shooter. Thanks
Thanks for watching and for the kind words, Roger! -Gregg Flores
Thanks for the info, very helpful!
Glad to help Michael! Thanks for watching! -Gregg
Thank you. Looking into getting one but didn’t know a whole lot about them.
Nathan, thank you for watching my friend! Glad to help out! -Gregg
Good info. Wish we could use scopes in Colorado. Revel Rockies is a good run.
Clover the GoldenDoodle was not aware that scopes on muzzleloaders were not legal in Colorado. Thanks for watching!
Yep, can't use sabots on your bullets, or pelletized powder charges (as shown in the video) either. For an outdoors/hunting/fishing focused state, we sure do come up with some stupid rules..... *insert eye roll here
Oh well, muzzleloader antelope tag in my pocket, season 3 weeks away!
Derek Ritter best of luck! Let us know how it goes! Send us some images!
Awesome video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Zach! -Gregg
Thank you for the video just subscribed
Thanks for watching, Aaron! And thank you VERY much for the subscription! -Gregg
Great video!
atg thank you! I just posted the first video on a new series on inline muzzleloaders. Let us know what you think! -Gregg
I had one of those in a Northwest ignition and I had no problem shooting patch round ball with it I had no idea what I did with it though I still can't find it to this day
They are fun weapons, Brett. Bummer you can’t find it! -Gregg
@@WhereTheRiverRuns I was living in New Jersey at the time and it wasn't registered so therefore I really couldn't have reported it missing I bought it in Pennsylvania I wasn't going to wait 6 months to buy a non-firearm
Great video. Very informative. I am looking at getting a muzzleloaader. What model do you have in thos video. I like the ease of cleaning.
Eliseo Aleman thanks for watching my friend! This is a CVA Accura. We justa posted a new muzzleloader video. We got a lot of questions from this video so we decided to launch a full 3 part series on muzzleloaders.
Great explanation
Emma Crawley thank you so much, Emma! And thanks for watching. -Gregg
i just bought a brand new traditions 50 Cal 1/28, what should i do to prep it before I shoot it.??
Looking to get back into deer hunting ( live in minnesota) .
Just saw a buck stalker 50 cal muzzle loader.
You video is very in formitive.
Would you point me to all your videos on this muzzle loader; so I can get the most information on everything about it.
I think I will be picking up up because saw a camouflage one a Runnings Store and under $300.00 to me is a good value.
I had a Marlin 30-30 years ago from K- Mart and my dad only paid $200.00.
So any good deer rifle under $300.00 is a rifle for me.
Thank you
Dave Chatelle
Hey Dave. Here are some other videos I’ve created on this subject:
th-cam.com/video/ewrXZJ6Jyus/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/VpAj2yBcqCs/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching! I’ll be producing a shooting segment soon. So stay tuned!
Gregg Flores
Awesome video any advice which muzzleloader to buy for the first one
Here’s what I suggest. Decide on a budget. Then pick 3 muzzleloaders in that range and start doing research on them. Read a lot of reviews. Ask a lot of questions. This will give you an idea of what you should expect if and when you actually buy it. No surprises. That’s kind of how I do it!
Depends on what state you hunt. Colorado you can not use a scope or pellets or a sabot. So. Be sure of the specific rules in th state your hunting.
Thank you sir! You have no idea how helpful this was. I bought one off of a friend but had no idea as to how to use it. I got it because it sounded fun and now I’m excited to shoot it. Where are you from?
Kelly Ruiz Hi, Kelly! Glad this helped! We’re working on a shooting and cleaning video too! We are based in Albuquerque, New Mexico. How about you? -Gregg Flores
Where The River Runs, I am from Phoenix AZ!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns I just subbed I enjoyed your video I find it fascinating that mussel loaders exist still
@@mannamedisaak3316 much thanks my friend! I appreciate it!
thanks for the vid, beginning to learn muzzle loaders, sorry if i missed it- you said you like that muzzleloader a few times, particualrly when mentioning that it comes apart to clean, but i what is it?
Thanks for watching my friend. It’s a CVA muzzleloader. An Accurra.
I’m new to muzzle loading, I was told by a veteran muzzle loader, never to ever use bore butter in the barrel with a sabot bullet it’s met for the old style ball and cloth type black powders. I dunno if that’s true, like I say I’m new to it
I still prefer my sharps infantry bp with tang sight. Just as easy to clean and is a 54 cal and is extremely accurate with my 54 cal lead dies.
Thanks, I think I want a bolt action muzzleloader.
Thanks for watching friend! -Gregg Flores
Great video . I'm new to this . I just put a scope on mine . Any tips for sighting in ? Also did you make a video for cleaning ? Thanks
Earl Karow I’m going to cover the sighting in on Part 2 of our new inline muzzleloader series, Earl. The first part is now available. It’s a different video than this one here. We plan to shoot parts 2 and 3 within the next 2 weeks. Here’s a quick recap if you need the info now though. Be consistent with the amount of powder you use. Whether that’s 100 or 150 grains of powder. Keep your powder dry and your barrel clean. Load your muzzleloader. Take a shot. Every 2 shots go ahead and clean it out. Just get the majority of the powder cleaned out of the barrel. If you can’t load your muzzleloader, it needs to be cleaned. Look for part two of the new inline muzzleloader series this month, Earl, and thanks for watching! -Gregg Flores
Earl Karow Also, the 3rd video in the new series will cover cleaning, Earl! Thanks again! -Gregg
for sighting in a scope make sure; 1) that your scopes' vertical reticle matches a known 100% vertical line such as a plumb bob line or as I have done, to drawn a line against a 4 ft level on a wall. 1a) during the lining up of the scope's reticle make sure that the rifle itself is PLUMB!.
2) set a target with a good bulls eye @ 25 yds approximately the same level as your rifle is on it's rest and the barrel close to level horizontally as possible...this bullseyes is your point of aim.
3) remove breech plug from MZ and set up on a stable rest, and look through the bore to see the bulls eye centering it closely within the bore.
4) DO NOT MOVE the MZ and adjust both windage & elevations turrets to align the crosshairs on the bulls eye (point of aim).
5) now fire the gun at 50 yds with a large target to see where the bullets impact the target and adjust accordlingly!
Excellent
@@michaeljaywall8159 thank you, Michael!
Do you have a link for that muzzle loader
Can you load patched round balls for these types of muzzleloaders?
You sure can. May have to experiment with the amount of powder grains to optimize your accuracy. But absolutely you can.
Are you in NM? That looks like the ABQ city Range. If so, what setup are you using now with the recent change to not allowing the use of a scope?
Im in NM. That was the city range. I recommend the globe front sight. And rear peep sight.
@@WhereTheRiverRuns I am too. Was out at the range yesterday sighting in my muzzleloader. I have the traditions peep sight (fiber optic front sight). Did good at 100yds. Can hit the paper at 200 yds but it’s a guessing game…I’ll have to try to find that globe sight.
@@brianarthurbowman1 it’s a circular piece of iron basically. It’s the best sight I’ve seen for open sights, no scope.
Well done.
Thank you for watching Lynn! And for the kind words. -Gregg Flores
8:44 you never ever rest your barrel, if you want accuracy. Resting a barrel will give you some crazy stringing.
Thanks for the tip my friend! I’ll keep that in mind. -Gregg
Hey I never got into muzzleloaders but now I'm liking it. Can you tell me if they are louder than a .22 pistol? People say that black powder guns have a quieter but longer "bang". Do you think that a homemade supressor can help? Thanks
Wasser Wasser they’re pretty loud friend. Haha! Not sure about the suppressor combined with a Muzzleloader. Not sure if I’ve ever heard of that?
@@WhereTheRiverRuns Yes there's one from SilencerCo Maxim 50 and if I'm not mistaken it costs 1000 so I forgot it instantly (btw I don't understand that fully, it's not classified as a supressor so no nfa regulations since it's permanently connected to the barrel)
If you want this to go subsonic how many grains of powder do you use? I would be interested in how quiet this thing would be if you used a subsonic load and a suppressor? I bet this could be a really silent hunting tool
Great video buddy, what muzzleloader is that? Thanks!!!
Thanks my friend! Glad to be of some help! I’m shooting the CVA Accura. Done my well! Took my first mule deer with it in 2017!
Love these types of rifles. What model cva is that one?
This particular model is an Accura, my friend. Thanks for watching!
No experience with muzzle loaders -- but it would be nice if you covered unloading / make safe.
Will do, John. Thanks for the request! -Gregg
What would you do of you got a misfire held it down range for a minute and still nothing? How would you handle clearing the gun?
paulrun111 hey Paul! A safe way to do it is, once you’re sure you have a true misfire and the weapon isn’t going to shoot, remove your primer and open the action. Remove the breach plug entirely (another reason an easily removable breach plug is a great feature to have). With the breach plug removed, you can then push your load out with your ramrod. With everything out, wouldn’t be a bad idea to make sure your barrel is clean and dry before loading another round and taking the next shot. Great question! -Gregg
@@WhereTheRiverRuns thank you very much for the reply, i am looking at into getting into muzzleloader hunting.
paulrun111 it’s a good hunt. Strategic. Drawing a muzzleloader hunt is nowhere near as hard as drawing a rifle hunt.
I was really wondering where inline muzzleloaders fall legally. Like are they considered firearms, unlike percussion cap or flintlock muzzleloaders?
Well. Every state has their own laws. In NM, a muzzleloader is not considered a high powered rifle, and, last I heard, even a felon could own and hunt with a muzzleoader here. There are no background checks, for example, for anyone purchasing a muzzleloader in NM.
What is the brand of the powder pellets and bullets you use
Colby Thompson in this particular video, I’m using triple 7 pallets and power belt copper ammo. Thanks for watching!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns thank you man i just order some because I just picked up a remington genesis for cheap and needed some powder and bullets
Colby Thompson my pleasure, Colby. Let me know how they work for you. Good luck!
A 25% solution of Ballistol and water does the job. Best black powder cleaner you can use.
Thanks for the heads up. I will give that a try! -Gregg Flores
So a friend of mine's been using this gun but he's been loading it with 70 grains of smokeless powder. So far it's been going okay but, should I be worried?
The horror stories I’ve heard associated with smokeless powder have been enough to keep me far away from it. I have no personal experience with it. Seems unsafe but I couldn’t speak from personal experience.
What is a cheap bullet you can shoot out of these I tried patch round ball and it's only accurate to about 50 yards with a 50 grain powder charge which is probably not enough for anyting I'm thinking about going with the Hornady Great Plains bullet or maybe casting some Lee real molds
I can only speak to what I’ve used. I use the Powerbelts. 245 grain. Have been great for me. Pretty accurate out to 200 yards. -Gregg Flores
hey man awesome video! Do you clean your barrel every time you take a shot? I noticed we live in the same area, I haven't been to that gun range in awhile. Good luck on your hunts.
Probably every 2 shots I’ll use the brush to clear fouling. When I’m at the range. I’ve noticed any less than that and it becomes really hard to load a round.
Good luck on your hunts as well, Seth! And thanks for watching!
what model & brand is your muzzle loader?
Is there any benefits from using a muzzle loader versus a regular rifle?
Avery Black In states that offer “draw hunts”, where people have to basically put their name into a hat and draw a lottery ticket to hunt, you have better odds by applying for a muzzleloader hunt. Rifle hunts are by far the most popular so you can likely draw more hunts if you put in for a muzzleloader hunt. That’s really the only edge. Rifles have a longer reach and are much easier to reload. Thanks for watching! -Gregg
For here in NC. Muzzle load opens a month before rifle. So that means you get a head start of hunting white tail deer before everyone else. Reason why I'm here trying to see if its something I want to do.
@@yiayang3403 I harvested my first deer with an in-line muzzleloader. It’s worth it!
Can this use smokeless powder?
Every time I see or read about smokeless, I hear about someone’s head being accidentally blown up. Smokeless powder is not safe. At least, according to the videos and articles I’ve seen. Smokeless powder and in-line muzzleoaders can’t safely be used together from what I’ve seen/read/heard.
@@WhereTheRiverRuns There are lots of new muzzleloaders that can run smokeless that’s why I’m asking
@@gregmcb5305 okay, Greg. Good to know. They’ve definitely got me scared. Haha! But it’s more a lack of experience. I have no experience with it. So every time I hear smokeless I hear “death”. Hahaha!!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns haha no worries, you should look into it. A 50cal muzzle loader running slow burn smokeless powder at subsonic speeds ie 950fps with a good twist rate would be a dream for hunting!(but that’s just me I like shooting subsonic)
I’m wanting to get one, looking at some of the CVAs. Know much about them?
I own the Acurra and it’s been great. Harvested my first mule deer with it. My brother owns the Optima. Also likes it. Seems like they’re a fairly decent muzzleloader for the price.
Do you have to do background check for these?
PANDURO 80 thanks for watching, my friend. To my knowledge, NM requires background checks for all new firearm purchases. Muzzleloaders included. You might call Sportsmans Warehouse to verify.
just bought one last night and no there was no background check , the gun I bought before Christmas took around 15 minutes and last night I was in and out
John Wayne thanks for this great info, John! Much appreciated! -Gregg Flores
@@WhereTheRiverRuns muzzle loading Black powder guns don't require any paperwork in most states. That includes cap n' ball revolvers. Considered "Non-guns" lol!
Russell Watkins thanks for the confirmation! Much appreciated! -Gregg
What brand and model is that muzzle loader?
Spring Hill Sheds its a CVA Accura, my friend. Thanks for watching! We are filming a newer muzzleloader series soon.
What type of muzzleloader do you have?
We’ve been using CVA. Have also tried Thompson/Center.
what kind of muzzleloader is that ?
What kind of muzzle load rifle is that?
It’s a CVA Acurra.
Can you please make one
Absolutely Glenn. Look for it on our channel in January! Thanks. -Gregg
Good job. But don't rest barrel on shot bag. Rest forearm on bag.
Thanks Craig! Will do!
What Muzzleloader is that?
CVA Accura, friend. Thanks for watching!
Good video ! One thing is to make sure the bullet is well seated on the powder as you say. Two of my hunting partners had misfire because of that !!
Serge Ducharme right on the money, Serge. I too see a lot of folks getting misfires and blaming the weapon. All the while, the Bullet wasn’t properly seated! Or the powder was wet!
Awesome :)
Thanks Craig!
Seems to me you have to clean black powder rifles a lot.
Indeed. Quite a bit of cleaning. After some familiarity though, it’s quick and fluid!
Tip #1 throw away the bore butter.tip #2 buy some windex it's the best blackpowder cleaner out there.
Cary Pipes thanks, Cary! I’ll try that out! Never would have thought! Gregg Flores
@@WhereTheRiverRuns hot water and soap works.
Russell Watkins okay! Thanks!
warning: If you have a misfire, these instructions say to wait one minute but you have to wait two minutes not one minute. You should change this video immediately before somebody gets hurt or killed.
Why do they have muzzleloader season.....
09 Honda It seems like they did it to offer a season between archery and rifle. The muzzleloader season offers the benefits of a rifle combined with rutting elk. It’s a good hunt if you can draw it!
It's a say bow round your welcome
whoever told you that doesn't know nothing about black powder the oils on your hands does not affect your powder
James Endsley thanks for your input, James. Much appreciated! 🙏🏽
It's a good habit..if your loading outdoors during winter or very damp air or hot sweaty hands it can over time sometimes if the weather is crappy too while still hunting and if you touch your pellet it can make hard spots or clump spots and cause an uneven or even a delay in fire.. anyways doing small things like taking pellet care are small things that add up to one being and I feel taking all necessary steps into safety and care while handling a dangerous weapon ( not firearm lol) so although I've heard others say it's ok to touch them and heard many say don't so I'm gonna choose to keep the habit just to keep that extra amount of structure in discipline ☺️ imo..
Good video. Thanks.
Anthony, thanks for watching and for the kind words, my friend! -Gregg
Of Course Americans will use English rules to pronounce foreign words but Sabot is French for "shoe". It is part of the word "sabotage" coined when a disgruntled factory worker tossed a shoe into a machine to deliberately foul it up. It's pronounced "sa-bo'" not "sabbit". So it literally means a shoe for the bullet.
Thanks for the lesson, Dave! That’s cool!
Every state has many different laws for muzzle hunting. A few do not have a specific season. Some like Colorado are complicated. So be sure to do your homework maybe even before you get into it. Colorado doesn’t allow pellets, or sabots, or scope sights. Like I said homework.
I don't like it, the rifle I mean. I'll wager a bet that I can load my old fashioned ball and cap muzzleloader faster than that in-line. Oh, and be just as successful in the hunt. As far as cleaning, I swab out my barrel about every 3rd shot and haven't lost any accuracy or had a misfire. I have a cleaning jig that screws into the end of my ramrod, and I just put a pre-moistened cleaning patch in the jig and swab away. Then, at the end of the day, I throughly clean the rifle at home.
Impressive, my friend! I do not yet own a ball and cap muzzleloader but will someday. Thanks for watching!
@@WhereTheRiverRuns - What I have is a Lyman Great Plains rifle that I purchased 30 years ago. I have since replaced the barrel with a Green Mountain 1:70 twist barrel that gives much better accuracy using round ball. This was back when Green Mountain offered a drop in barrel for this particular rifle. However, Lyman still offers a Great Plains rifle in 1:66 twist for round ball which is still really good. I replaced the barrel because I accidentally purchased my rifle with a 1:32 twist (I believe) which sucks for round ball accuracy, but okay for mini ball. I prefer shooting round ball myself. That's just the old timer in me, LOL...
HEY DUDE YOU NEVER REST YOU BARREL ON ANYTHING WHEN SHOOTING IT. ALWAYS REST THE FOREARM OF THE GUN OR RIFLE.
Thank you, Jim! I was unaware of this important rule when I shot this video. I appreciate the advice! -Gregg Flores