A side note. Chargers should have never left San Diego. Owner Dean Spanos had too many people in his ear thinking team would double in value if moved to LA. Forbes put put new list saying team is still worth same amount in LA as it would be if it stayed in San Diego because no major fanbase for them in LA . It's Raiders,Rams,49ers,Cowboys fans in LA.
I’m pretty sure the original teams that were supposed to move to LA were the Rams and Raiders and they would share Sofi but the deal fell apart for the Raiders and the Chargers swooped in and took their place
@@BigJay5312 Actually, the Chargers were given relocation priority over the Raiders after the Rams stadium deal was approved over the proposed stadium in Carson. Why? I have no idea. The NFL is usually pretty business saavy, but in this case they made a decision that was worse for business; the Chargers have virtually no fanbase in LA to speak of.
@@BigJay5312 It didn't fall apart it was going to be the Raiders and Chargers who wanted to be in LA but Rams were the ones that got approved. Chargers could not build anything without a second team.
And look at the value of the Chargers now. Wins means nothing. While they have not doubled they have gone up significantly since they were in SD. LA is a much move valuable TV market. San Diego should get an expansion team though if they can find an owner that can build his own building without tax payer money, because that ship has sailed in CA.
Camping World Stadium. And Orlando is trying to dump more money into it. Nobody wants to play there, just knock it down and build more apartments like Florida loves to do.
@@91_C4_FLIt was built in the 1920’s and it was pretty cheap 🤷♂️ What I don’t get is the renovations. Maybe the Jaguars will go there for their stadium rebuild
@@elijahorama None of the 20's stadium remains. The upper deck is actually part of an expansion to the 20s stadium from the 80s, and is older than the current lower bowl. UCF and Orlando City left before the 2014, $207M rebuild, and after a decade nobody wants to play there still. Dumping more money into it won't change that.
This video is why stadiums should not be built with tax dollars. Within ten years stadiums either need up grades or the wrecking ball. Also the NFL doesn't need any public funding for anything period!! Stadiums in San Francisco, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Charlotte are looking to either up grade or replace . Fine as long as no public funding is used.
6:14 A little context about Fed Ex field in Washington...when they played in RFK (and before Dan Snyder), RFK stadium ALWAYS sold out. The season ticket wait list was tens of thousands long. They had a successful team and a fantastic fan base. That is the impetus for building Fed Ex field so large...the demand was there. Then came Dan Snyder and...you know the rest.
FedEx Field was built when the Redskins had a ridiculous season ticket waiting list. The owner at the time, Jack Kent Cooke tried to get a new stadium built first in Virginia, but Virginia balked at the site and their $ investment (Ironically it's right down the street from the proposed Caps/Wizards arena). He then wanted to build on the existing RFK Stadium land...the problem is that a piece of the land is federally owned and requires congressional approval to re-purpose it for a stadium. Once that stalled, he settled on Landover, MD. In some ways it was a precursor for the modern stadium with it's amplitude of luxury suites and club level seating.
Also tried the nearby Langston Golf Course which historically was the first golf course to all African Americans to play in DC. Even Lee Elder who Tiger Woods dedicated his first Masters win to was against it. The other stadium that was proposed for the Potomac Yards site was the Northern Virgina MLB Expansion team called the Virginia Fury, where Arizona and Tampa Bay got teams in that round.
Kraft saved the Pats from moving to St Louis by buying them. He never attempted to move them there. Kraft did leverage plans/threats to move them to Hartford for a new stadium in Foxboro.
Right. 49ers never should have left San Francisco. Can you imagine the kind of stadium that could have been built in the spot where Candlestick was, with the Bay side open so the vista could be seen?
@onlinesavant From what I understand, Levi's Stadium design was rendered years ago, with the intention of it replacing The Stick. But, an agreement couldn't be reached, so they eventually built it in Santa Clara. Levi's would have been much more acceptable at Candlestick Point, as hot weather, and no shade ( two of the biggest criticisms of Levi's in Santa Clara) wouldn't have an issue in San Francisco which is much cooler
When it was built. FedEx’s capacity made sense. Back then there was a decade long waiting list for season tickets. It was packed. There was no team in Baltimore. In those days they needed that kind of capacity. Snyder’s mismanagement drove them to where they are now.
Fun fact: now the largest NFL Stadium in the state of Maryland in terms of seating capacity is M&T Bank Stadium, although that might change since they are going 3 or 4 years of renovations in the off season which also cancels their annual training camp practice at the Stadium.
I would add Coamerica Park (Tigers) and Guaranteed Rate Stadium (White Sox). The old Tiger Stadium and White Sox Stadium were perfect for baseball. They had the model for what a baseball stadium should be but decided they had to fix what wasnt broken.
I don't agree with you about Comerica Park. Tiger Stadium had to be replaced, one way or another. In spite of its history, it had become too old to continue into the 2000's as an MLB ballpark, and the move to a downtown location from Michigan & Trumbull was smart.
@@watson956 Comerica Park sucks. The upper deck seats are too far away from the field. Most of the seats are in the sun. Very little shade.. Even night games still plenty of sun, thanks to earlier game starting times.
Theres a rumor that the dome of America center might get a renovation for the St. Louis BattleHawks. And the Alamodome is getting more luxury boxes to keep the final four coming to San Antonio.
The city of St. Louis built a dome because of the colder weather. They lost the Cardinals in the 80s because they wouldn't build a dome. They didn't keep the Rams because they couldn't fund a new dome. It had to be a dome.
Come on, they didn’t have to build a dome. There are plenty of cities colder than St. Louis that have open air stadiums. The proposal they put together for a new stadium in the 2010’s was for an open air stadium.
Wrong on the Marlins. Look at the world baseball classic, that building was electric. The Latin community in Miami loves baseball . They just had the Caribbean series there in February and the place was sold out for every game. If the Marlins were not ran as a poverty franchise by their ownership. Think of all the players, the Marlins have just given away. Miguel Cabrera Stanton the list is long.
They did not sell out every game of the Caribbean series, I think they sold out most of the WBC games there last year though. Ownership, starting with Wayne Huizenga, then onto Jeff Loria, has never done a great job of trying to win over fan support, even when they won the World Series twice.
@@Nega_Duck_X They won two World Series, and nothing outside of that. Literally, the two seasons bookending the two title wins were underwhelming. And then of the rest of the seasons were nothing. Those two world championships were isolated events. Two isolated seasons. Nothing to build on.
@@EvanEscher Yeah but how do you expect to sold out game at 10:30 in the morning, however, 12, 000 show up for 2 of those games and how I know you might ask, because I was there. People don’t go Marlins games because the team sucks the fan base doesn’t trust them. So even if they move that not gonna happen if they suck like they do down here Miami it don’t matter where they move people not gonna show up because they suck even he said Marlins are boring team to watch , although, I’m sure this guy depressed ginger has never seen a marlins game
Marlins stadium looks futuristic on the outside, but the inside is very cafeteria-like. The nearest highway has also been under constant construction for about 15 years and is gridlocked every day starting at 3pm.
RE The outside facade of Soldier Field: It’s not that the bears wanted to keep those elements, they basically had to. That part of the structure was deemed landmark status and couldn’t be demolished. So if they wanted to stay in that location they had to shoehorn a structure inside it
I know I’m in the minority but I actually really like Soldier Field. It’s not my favourite but I do think it’s a nice looking stadium. I hope it gets renovated in the future
On top of everything you mentioned, the Olympic stadium in Montreal wasn't even completed on-time for the 1976 Olympics. They held the events inside a halfway-finished stadium. Additionally the engineers that designed the diagonal tower thing made a miscalculation and according to the original design it would have been too heavy to support its own weight, so they had to change it while it was already under construction.
Demand is high for a great baseball team in Miami just look at any Caribbean or wbc game. The 2 main problems are 1.) Miami is very expensive to live in no one is wasting their money to go support a team that hasn’t attempted to put a good team in the field since the team was first founded. (The two WS wins were lucked into and the complete dismantling of both teams the year after winning shows that they wouldn’t even put an extra dime into the team even if they can guarantee they would be competitive) 2.) the traffic. going to a game especially on weekdays is about a 2 hour minimum ordeal with an empty stadium just to get to the area. Add that to game time and the amount of things there are to do in Miami no one is going out of their way to waste that much time and money to go watch their team get slapped. I’m summary it comes down to winning if you win in Miami the fans will come without winning the fans will stay home.
Yep but even if they win, people will still use the “We have beaches” attitude and still not go unless they somehow make it to the LCS and/or World Series.
Gotta remember the Redskins were leaving RFK with 55K seating and a really long waiting list...they should have capped at 65 to 70K but they thought with the waiting list they had they were good.
I remember they built FedEx field really fast,so fast that by the time it opened, not everything was installed yet, the Ravens were building their stadium at the time too and took more time on it
Olympic stadium in Montreal can't do a complete stadium rebuild at all because right under the tower is the aquatic center (swimming pool) there. Built for aquatic in the Olympics. And the bio dome was the velodrome which removed it a long time ago which is now a bio dome. So renovation of the stadium without doing the roof is tough because of the tower sit right up of the aquatic center there. So that the bad design there. So why did the ioc agree with this back then. So that not be active to this day. It vomit and that is it here. Agree everyone.
As a Brit, we have very different opinions on what is a good stadium (for example a lot of brits love soldier field, and I know it’s not liked as much by our American friends) But despite this, MetLife is universally disliked.
Disagree about the Ballpark in Arlington. Arlington Stadium, which had a certain charm in a loved minor league park kinda way (which it was originally) had to go sooner rather than later and retractable roof tech hadn't been perfected when TBIA was on the drawing board. One of the proposals for the Rangers was covering it with some sort of retractable roof but it just made more sense to build a new one. It's still standing as a event venue.
One of the big negatives for both The Trop and Loan Depot has been location. Neither are in an area that is easily accessible for their fan bases. The Marlins are stuck where they are because their stadium is relatively new, but the Rays have no excuse if they build a new park next to the old one that nobody can get to.
That’s false especially when it comes to Tropicana field because over a month ago wwe sold out that building but yet the rays can’t fill that place up is embarrassing
It's funny, I was on vacation in NYC in 2009 with my dad and a friend of ours. Our hotel was a block from Giants Stadium. All 3 of us agreed the old Giants Stadium looked better from the outside than Metlife (which was only partially built). Nothing I've seen on TV has changed my mind.
Back when Fed-ex broke ground… NFL games filled that stadium… today, NFL and MLB teams ticket prices have gone so high… most just choose to watch it on the television and stay home… going to the stadium almost feels like price gouging… hell, I used to go to my local AAA games for my family of 6 for the price I could have gotten into MLB level games for alone… maybe get a ticket for the wife.. (doubtful)… They are closing those levels off to validate their prices rather than try to sell them at a discount… These teams don’t deserve their fans anymore… I applaud cities that refuse to give into the pressure to build new…
Personally - I feel MetLife stadium IS the Best stadium in the NFL mainly because of its Ripple Exterior. Let Me Explain: MetLife has the ripple exterior that allows even the toughest winds to flow right through the building which allows little or no effect to the kicking game in either the NFL or soccer and at the same time allow fans to have a full comfortable outdoor stadium experience no matter how cold it gets. It's certainly better than Lambeau Field. Other stadiums like SOFI, Allegiant, AT&T and U.S. Bank stadium may be more pleasing to the naked eye and have roofs to isolate the wind effect to the game - It gives fans more of an advanced arena type feel rather than a true stadium feel. It feels good in the beginning, But after a time the arena feel takes its toll. The Advanced Roof Stadiums may look better, But Technically MetLife Stadium IS better. Very few people realize this. Stadiums are being built or upgraded to ripple exteriors all over the world. It's catching on wether anyone knows it or not. Check out videos of the new Real Madrid Stadium in Santiago and the new Xian International Sports Center in China.
That’s not really true about the Rams. People loved the Rams. They were generally the third team, behind the Cardinals and Blues, but they had pretty strong attendance despite the crappy teams they fielded in the late 2000s. Support for the Rams didn’t plummet until it became obvious Stan Kroenke had no interest in keeping the team in STL. At that point, fans gave up. But I think had Kroenke and the NFL committed to St. Louis and built the new stadium, you’d see massive fan support for the Rams. The XFL’s Battlehawks now play in the Dome, and they have a lot of fan support. The Dome isn’t great by any means, but there were a lot of remedies available and instead Kroenke, Goodell, Jones and a lot of other key people within the NFL decided to just abandon the city. And even that could have been more tolerable had they also not made the city spend millions on their pitch to build a new stadium while knowing there was a 0% chance of it happening. Once Kroenke bought the land in LA, the ballgame was over and the NFL made sure to scorch the earth on its way out of St Louis.
@@1999bill1999 and what promise was that? The only thing St Louis did wrong was give the Rams an easy out of their lease. After that, the only broken promises came from the NFL. And that’s why the NFL ultimately ended up forced to pay the city more than $300 million.
Rams should’ve never left Los Angeles in the first I’m glad their back home in LA. As for St. Louis they should’ve got the Saints from New Orleans in the 90’s and relocate to St. Louis and that still might happen.
So glad you put MetLife Stadium on this list. They raised so much money from Giants and Jets season ticket holders and then still didn’t bother to put a dome or retractable roof on it. Giants stadium was actually a better Stadium than MetLife.
The UFL XFL STL Battlehawks played at the Battle Dome (The Dome at America's Center). And STL holds the best attendance in spring football despite the NFL Rams' departure. I learned that after the 1st UFL season in 2024, STL is going to renovate the turf. And I hope soon, IMO, they'll replace the roof with custom manufactured ETFE while keeping the roof support as is. Maybe cut down uppder deck end zone seats for additional columns and new scoreboards to support the roof and make the dome suitable for a retractable roof. Only time will tell. Anyway, football STILL exists in STL!
Arlington stadium was more of a minor league stadium that didn't bring in the revenue. The ballpark in Arlington was built to bring in revenue to the team where they could compete. The heat really wasn't any issue until they were forced to played day games un the mid 2000. Before all the games were played at night.😮
It's crazy how all the Latino fans will show up at Loan Depot park for their countries during the WBC or Caribbean Series, but they can't unite behind the Marlins.
The old Soldier Field was declared a national historic landmark, so it could not be torn down. The City of Chicago, who owns the stadium and not the Bears, created a loophole for themselves. They decided they could build within the old façade and columns, then claim it was still the same building. Hence what they have now.
11:51 Please give me renderings of my plan to renovate MetLife Stadium. I have two massive 4k scoreboards that I plan on building. The one on the field will measure 7,280 square feet (360 + 160 X 2 X 7), the other scoreboard measures a massive 118,800 square feet, or 910 + 740 X 2 X 36, replacing the four video screens they currently have. The renovation also includes two touchdown apples (one each for the Giants and Jets) and the top few rows of some seating sections will be replaced by pretty flowers. And the stadium will have fireworks for beautiful girls moments (Example: A Jets player gives a football to a beautiful girl after scoring a touchdown).
If you think it was so bad, the WSU United football league have a team in St. Louis is playing in the Edwards Dome in the first place, if you think it’s so bad
What’s sad is the Marlins franchise has won 2 World Series in 1997 and 2003, beating 2 really good teams, Cleveland and the Yankees, if that team moves they will have that glorious competitive phase of the then Florida Marlins, it’s just sad with their rich history I mean many teams in baseball ⚾️ don’t even have 1 championship let alone 2 just sad for Florida
Agree that the Marlins should've rebranded and relocated the franchise to any number of more suitable locations: Salt Lake City, Montreal, Portland Oregon, Austin/San Antonio, Charlotte, Nashville, Sacramento, Mexico City or Las Vegas.
Metlife has a train station 10 yards from the gate. Fedex Field has a metro line 3/4 of mile away. Stade Olympique has 2 Metro stations under its gate. Edward Jones down has a light rail a like a 5 min walk tops away
@@johnsamoilis6379 M&T Bank Stadium has a Light Rail Stop right next to one of the entrances, also the station at Camden Yards is 3/4 mile walk from it.
Candlestick Park is a glaring omission from this list. Weather was cold AF for baseball, the remodel for football didn't help. Traffic was horrible--because there was basically one way in/out, unless you tried to drive through the City. The surrounding neighborhood was a high crime area.
Candlestick wasn’t a waste. The city got over five decades of use out of it between the Giants and 49ers, which has long been the goal of pro sports stadium construction and design.
@@54raynor The stadium lasting is a positive? Aren't they all supposed to last? What color is the sky in your world? Purple? Green? You're being mocked because your ill-formed opinion merits mockery. If Candlestick was so great, why did the Giants and 49ers want to leave so desperately? If the site was so great, they'd have stayed.
@@michaelbaucom4019 they left Candlestick for the exact same reason every team leaves their old stadium: they can make more money in a new one with all the modern bells and whistles. And yes, getting 50 years out of a stadium is a success. None of the stadiums on this list were even close to that, which is why they were failures and never should have been built.
@@54raynor Google " nearest Home Depot" you're going to need a bigger shovel. The place was a dump. Facts, and facts don't care about your ill-formed opinions
As a giants fan I can totally agree about MetLife. This type of stadium would go great in the 80s or 90s. they should renovate it so we could at least have some open spots. It’s a shame they built it like that
The dome in St. Louis was not a great stadium for sure, but it really is just part of the convention center where it has been and still is used a ton for convention events. I think we should have built a huge staduim and entertainment complex just on the other side of the river which would have driven development over there, bit that is Illinois so no funds were available for that! Ha
A list of other venues that should have never been built were: The Georgia Dome, Levi's Stadium, Comiskey Park II, Comerica Park, Turner Field, Yankee Stadium part II, and Reliant/NRG Stadium.
@@jasonrandom372It was called Reliant Stadium when it was built. Reliant Energy is the local power company. Later, they became a subsidiary of NRG Energy. (Which when you think about is redundant because “NRG” is the phonetic spelling of “energy”. BTW, I disagree with Lonnie that stadium shouldn’t have been built. The Houston Oilers played in the Astrodome which only held around 54,000 for football, and being circular, many of the upper deck seats weren’t optimal for football. Plus, it was the main reason Bud Adams moved the team to Nashville. Reliant Stadium (now NRG Stadium) was absolutely a good choice. Agree with Lonnie’s other stadiums which shouldn’t have been built, or at least should have been built more like their predecessor. Especially the ballparks for the ChiSox and Tigers. They’re both bad designs for baseball.
@@OldRustySteele Some of other sports venues that should not have been built were Shea Stadium, Veterans Field, Three Rivers Stadium, Chase Field, and The Oakland Coliseum. Raymond James Stadium, First Energy Stadium, Globe Life Field, American Family Field, and Highmark Stadium should not have been built.
FedEx Field when it was built made sense. The team was still owned by JKC and had such historic run in the 80s/90s that there was a massive backlog of season ticket requests. 91,000 seats sounds like a lot, but they lead the NFL in attendance for its first decade until Synder ruined it. Landover may not be the most exotic place, but it's hardly "the middle of nowhere". It's still only a few miles from the District and it's convenient to the Beltway. At the time, this made sense.
All of the things said about the Marlins, were said about the Florida Panthers as far as attendance. And all of the same things apply. If the team is well managed and routinely successful on the field, the people will show up. The Panthers have been a perennial successful team for a few years now, and the attendance has reflected that. This could be said about all South Florida sports teams by the way. And, most sports teams don't do well with the attendance if the team is perennially mediocre to bad for years on end. A fluke year of success here and there is not going to change that.
One thing i don't care for about the NFL compared to MLB is that the NFL DOES NOT preserve older stadiums with rich history at all! As soon as football stadium is considered old, they just tare it down, as opposed to Major league baseball that actually preserve their historical stadiums such as Fenway and Wrigley feild....
Fenway, Wrigley and Dodger Stadium are the exceptions. All the other MLB teams got new stadiums. NFL stadiums just don't feel as historic -- with the exception of Lambeau Field and possibly Soldier Field. I think it's because college football is where the longer history is -- the NFL and its stadiums came later.
When the Packers visited the Chargers at that soccer stadium they played till Sofi opened. It was well over 90% Green and Gold. Though the Packers lost that game the cheering for the Chargers was minimal. I watch NFL Redzone, being a Packer fan in Michigan. Whenever the Chargers have a home game at Sofi, It's always basically an away/home game for their opponents, especially their divisional opponents. It's mostly evident when the Raiders visit. I've seen games where you have to look real real hard to find Charger fans. I have to check the chyron on the bottom of the screen to see who's the home team. Granted the stadiums are different from a distance but when you see the field and just the lower stands it can he hard to tell in an instant. All the Raider games at Sofi are pretty much entirely Silver and Black, and the cheering is louder. I know it's not possible for it to be exponential, but it almost seems to be exponential. There's almost no cheering for the Chargers when Vegas visits. It's really a sad state of affairs when the cheapness of an owner destroys a teams income from home games. Instead of trying to build a new stadium in San Diego he took the miserly (were talking Bah Humbug) way out by going to S0FI(eventually), which is, for all intent and purposes, super cheap compared to a new stadium. Heck the Rams aren't much better off. We beat the Rams at SOFI this past season and I swear it was at least 70% Packer fans. It was nice to see such a nice crowd on the road, but I weep for both San Diego and St. Louis who got hosed out of teams by greed.
The worst thing about Soldier Field is the location. Getting in and out of there is a major pain. Public trans options are even worse. The city made a proposal to build a dome and have a train line drop off directly in the stadium. Judging on the design only it's polarizing. I personally think its fine from a aesthetic point of view.
The St. Louis situation is clearly seen in hindsight. The government had to get the citizens to approve it so they couldn't spend more than necessary. It's why the Rams left LA. The dome also had to be connected to the convention center in order for it to be viable. It also hosted a final four in '05. With the Cardinals leaving for Phoenix after the '87 season, the thought was, "if we can build a football only stadium, someone will come and all will be well."
The city of St. Louis built a dome because of the colder weather. They lost the Cardinals in the 80s because they wouldn't build a dome. They didn't keep the Rams because they couldn't fund a new dome. It had to be a dome. I'm a Jets fan so I don't often speak well of the Dolphins, but the renovated Hard Rock Stadium looks nice. They need to use Loan Depot Park for the Olympics someday. In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. It would help if you had the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase. Soldier Field, the Bears never wanted to be there in the first place so why renovate it Candlestick Park is a glaring omission from this list. The weather was cold AF for baseball, the remodel for football didn't help. Traffic was horrible--because there was basically one way in/out unless you tried to drive through the City. The surrounding neighborhood was a high-crime area. Marlins Park is amazing. The Dome at America's Center(Opening as the Trans World Dome in 1995) NEVER impressed me. Just a dark, dull dome. 8# Miami Gardens In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. You need the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase. Baseball in Florida has been a disaster I really hope that the Bears move out of Soldier Field, and the White Sox move in with major renovations. I know that the odds of this happening are low as the White Sox have other plans, but that would be such a great location for a ballpark, and the pillars would be a great feature. Just make a video on why ALL stadiums and arenas that have ever been built since 500 BC suck! 😂The Marlins should have moved to Saint Pete to compete directly against the Rays at Edward Jones Stadium, not Edwards Jones. A side note. Chargers should have never left San Diego. Owner Dean Spanos had too many people in his ear thinking the team would double in value if moved to LA. Forbes put a new list saying the team is still worth the same amount in LA as it would be if it stayed in San Diego because no major fanbase for them in LA. It's Rams, 49ers, and Cowboys fans in LA. Any stadium built without a tenant in place (Alamodome, Dome at America's Center, Tropicana Field...) shouldn't have been built. Marlins Stadium looks futuristic on the outside, but the inside is very cafeteria-like. The nearest highway has also been under constant construction for about 15 years and is gridlocked every day starting at 3pm. I would add Comerica Park (Tigers) and Guaranteed Rate Stadium (White Sox). The old Tiger Stadium and White Sox Stadium were perfect for baseball. They had the model for what a baseball stadium should be but decided they had to fix what wasn't broken. so I am sorry I love the old Rams dome in STL. The vibe in there had a throwback feel. New domes are too soulless, corporate, and depressing thank you did not making it really here I am so sorry love you take care as a fan is over this week okay on live really here to the Rams thank you.
To be fair to Marlins fans, the ownership has always been complete garbage. Sure, 2 WS wins but those teams were immediately ripped apart to save $$. And 2023 is the 1st year the Marlins even had a winning record since Loan Depot was built, excluding the tiny, crowd-less 2020 pandemic season. There’s no reason for fans in any city to support them.
In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. You need the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase.
Actually Virginia was one of the sites, Laurel MD was the Other.. because the vicinity to Baltimore, and the Ravens haven't arrived yet that almost got built, still Fedex field location was not Nowhere, DC area is very sprawl most people live outside DC
And the Bullets and Capitals used to play in Landover when the old Capital Center was there. It's not like it was an out of nowhere suburb to build a stadium. Still, the Commanders belong in DC or possibly northern Virginia.
The problem is Tampa Bay Area weather: They have the highest concentration of thunderstorm days in the US; and they NEED an indoor stadium due to lightning.
The guy behind the Ballpark in Arlington, Tom Schieffer, was very big on outdoor baseball. He was unhappy that the new stadium had the retractable roof, even despite the logic behind it.
Soldier field wasn't a situation of them "liking the pillars". The pillars are nationally protected. They CANT be torn down so you have to either build within them or build around them or build somewhere else.
The Trop. "If we build it, someone will come. Uh, someone will.... Uh, SOMEONE? Re the Rangers. The new stadium (now not so new and called Choctaw Stadium) was built when retractable roof stadiums were not yet very popular. I used to work for the Rangers and did ballpark tours at both (what was then) Globe Life Park and Its replacement, Globe Life Field. I think if they had built Globe Life Park a few years later, it would have had a retractable roof. They DID have day games there during the summer thanks to the ESPN Sunday Night Baseball contract. This also led to Thursday 'getaway games' during the day.
I really hope that the Bears move out of Soldier Field, and the White Sox move in with major renovations. I know that the odds of this happening are low as the White Sox have other plans, but that would be such a great location for a ballpark, and the pillars would be a great feature.
The irony is the teams that play in the stadiums have been terrible. If some of the teams were winners we'd be talking about how it's an "electric" atmosphere.
A side note. Chargers should have never left San Diego. Owner Dean Spanos had too many people in his ear thinking team would double in value if moved to LA. Forbes put put new list saying team is still worth same amount in LA as it would be if it stayed in San Diego because no major fanbase for them in LA . It's Raiders,Rams,49ers,Cowboys fans in LA.
I’m pretty sure the original teams that were supposed to move to LA were the Rams and Raiders and they would share Sofi but the deal fell apart for the Raiders and the Chargers swooped in and took their place
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Actually, the Chargers were given relocation priority over the Raiders after the Rams stadium deal was approved over the proposed stadium in Carson.
Why? I have no idea. The NFL is usually pretty business saavy, but in this case they made a decision that was worse for business; the Chargers have virtually no fanbase in LA to speak of.
@@BigJay5312 It didn't fall apart it was going to be the Raiders and Chargers who wanted to be in LA but Rams were the ones that got approved. Chargers could not build anything without a second team.
And look at the value of the Chargers now. Wins means nothing. While they have not doubled they have gone up significantly since they were in SD. LA is a much move valuable TV market. San Diego should get an expansion team though if they can find an owner that can build his own building without tax payer money, because that ship has sailed in CA.
I sometimes wonder if it is possible that in the future, the Chargers could potentially move back to San Diego...
Any stadium built without a tenant in place (Alamodome, Dome at America's Center, Tropicana Field...) shouldn't have been built.
Camping World Stadium. And Orlando is trying to dump more money into it. Nobody wants to play there, just knock it down and build more apartments like Florida loves to do.
@@91_C4_FLIt was built in the 1920’s and it was pretty cheap 🤷♂️ What I don’t get is the renovations. Maybe the Jaguars will go there for their stadium rebuild
@@elijahorama None of the 20's stadium remains. The upper deck is actually part of an expansion to the 20s stadium from the 80s, and is older than the current lower bowl. UCF and Orlando City left before the 2014, $207M rebuild, and after a decade nobody wants to play there still. Dumping more money into it won't change that.
the VideoTrone Centre in Quebec City,CA the NHL seems to be done expanding with Canadian teams
I think the NHL is ignoring some Canadian markets that could do very well.
The Marlins' management has done a great job of alienating the fans in southern Florida.
This video is why stadiums should not be built with tax dollars. Within ten years stadiums either need up grades or the wrecking ball. Also the NFL doesn't need any public funding for anything period!!
Stadiums in San Francisco, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Charlotte are looking to either up grade or replace . Fine as long as no public funding is used.
Agreed. The owners always promise economic benefits to the city but those are usually exaggerated.
Maybe there should be a law forbidding private developers from using tax dollars for covering construction costs.
6:14 A little context about Fed Ex field in Washington...when they played in RFK (and before Dan Snyder), RFK stadium ALWAYS sold out. The season ticket wait list was tens of thousands long. They had a successful team and a fantastic fan base. That is the impetus for building Fed Ex field so large...the demand was there.
Then came Dan Snyder and...you know the rest.
FedEx Field was built when the Redskins had a ridiculous season ticket waiting list. The owner at the time, Jack Kent Cooke tried to get a new stadium built first in Virginia, but Virginia balked at the site and their $ investment (Ironically it's right down the street from the proposed Caps/Wizards arena). He then wanted to build on the existing RFK Stadium land...the problem is that a piece of the land is federally owned and requires congressional approval to re-purpose it for a stadium. Once that stalled, he settled on Landover, MD.
In some ways it was a precursor for the modern stadium with it's amplitude of luxury suites and club level seating.
Also tried the nearby Langston Golf Course which historically was the first golf course to all African Americans to play in DC. Even Lee Elder who Tiger Woods dedicated his first Masters win to was against it.
The other stadium that was proposed for the Potomac Yards site was the Northern Virgina MLB Expansion team called the Virginia Fury, where Arizona and Tampa Bay got teams in that round.
I'm a Jets fan so I don't often speak well of the Dolphins, but I think the renovated Hard Rock Stadium looks really nice.
Kraft saved the Pats from moving to St Louis by buying them. He never attempted to move them there. Kraft did leverage plans/threats to move them to Hartford for a new stadium in Foxboro.
Levi stadium should be on here too..
FOR REALS
You got that right! Can you believe they dropped 1.2 Billion building that place? Where TF did all that money go ?
Right. 49ers never should have left San Francisco. Can you imagine the kind of stadium that could have been built in the spot where Candlestick was, with the Bay side open so the vista could be seen?
@onlinesavant From what I understand, Levi's Stadium design was rendered years ago, with the intention of it replacing The Stick. But, an agreement couldn't be reached, so they eventually built it in Santa Clara. Levi's would have been much more acceptable at Candlestick Point, as hot weather, and no shade ( two of the biggest criticisms of Levi's in Santa Clara) wouldn't have an issue in San Francisco which is much cooler
@onlinesavant Exactly! The surrounding area would have benefited too!
When it was built. FedEx’s capacity made sense. Back then there was a decade long waiting list for season tickets. It was packed. There was no team in Baltimore. In those days they needed that kind of capacity.
Snyder’s mismanagement drove them to where they are now.
Fun fact: now the largest NFL Stadium in the state of Maryland in terms of seating capacity is M&T Bank Stadium, although that might change since they are going 3 or 4 years of renovations in the off season which also cancels their annual training camp practice at the Stadium.
Dude didn't even have an intro. just jump straight into the point
Always 😂
I would add Coamerica Park (Tigers) and Guaranteed Rate Stadium (White Sox). The old Tiger Stadium and White Sox Stadium were perfect for baseball. They had the model for what a baseball stadium should be but decided they had to fix what wasnt broken.
I don't agree with you about Comerica Park. Tiger Stadium had to be replaced, one way or another. In spite of its history, it had become too old to continue into the 2000's as an MLB ballpark, and the move to a downtown location from Michigan & Trumbull was smart.
@@watson956 Comerica Park sucks. The upper deck seats are too far away from the field. Most of the seats are in the sun. Very little shade.. Even night games still plenty of sun, thanks to earlier game starting times.
My issue with the White Sox stadium is it's facing the wrong way, they've should've built it facing the city skyline
Theres a rumor that the dome of America center might get a renovation for the St. Louis BattleHawks. And the Alamodome is getting more luxury boxes to keep the final four coming to San Antonio.
The city of St. Louis built a dome because of the colder weather. They lost the Cardinals in the 80s because they wouldn't build a dome. They didn't keep the Rams because they couldn't fund a new dome. It had to be a dome.
Come on, they didn’t have to build a dome. There are plenty of cities colder than St. Louis that have open air stadiums. The proposal they put together for a new stadium in the 2010’s was for an open air stadium.
You're right. In fact, EVERY NFL team should be playing in a dome, or a stadium with a retractable roof.
“Too cold” yet teams like Green Bay and Buffalo play in frigid weather yearly.
Lambeau Field has a 30 year waiting list for season tickets......and St. Louis is way south of Green Bay.
@@cmbox1184Georgia Frontiere wanted a dome. That's why the Rams left Anaheim for St Louis. It was built for her & the Rams
Wrong on the Marlins. Look at the world baseball classic, that building was electric. The Latin community in Miami loves baseball . They just had the Caribbean series there in February and the place was sold out for every game. If the Marlins were not ran as a poverty franchise by their ownership. Think of all the players, the Marlins have just given away. Miguel Cabrera Stanton the list is long.
Eh idk about all that that team won 2 World Series and the stadium they played in before barely sold out
They did not sell out every game of the Caribbean series, I think they sold out most of the WBC games there last year though. Ownership, starting with Wayne Huizenga, then onto Jeff Loria, has never done a great job of trying to win over fan support, even when they won the World Series twice.
@@Nega_Duck_X They won two World Series, and nothing outside of that. Literally, the two seasons bookending the two title wins were underwhelming. And then of the rest of the seasons were nothing. Those two world championships were isolated events. Two isolated seasons. Nothing to build on.
You are so right
@@EvanEscher
Yeah but how do you expect to sold out game at 10:30 in the morning, however, 12, 000 show up for 2 of those games and how I know you might ask, because I was there. People don’t go Marlins games because the team sucks the fan base doesn’t trust them. So even if they move that not gonna happen if they suck like they do down here Miami it don’t matter where they move people not gonna show up because they suck even he said Marlins are boring team to watch , although, I’m sure this guy depressed ginger has never seen a marlins game
Marlins stadium looks futuristic on the outside, but the inside is very cafeteria-like. The nearest highway has also been under constant construction for about 15 years and is gridlocked every day starting at 3pm.
lol, I actually like the inside 😅
That's a great way to put it. I've never been there but it looks very average or cheap looking on TV.
RE The outside facade of Soldier Field: It’s not that the bears wanted to keep those elements, they basically had to. That part of the structure was deemed landmark status and couldn’t be demolished. So if they wanted to stay in that location they had to shoehorn a structure inside it
I know I’m in the minority but I actually really like Soldier Field. It’s not my favourite but I do think it’s a nice looking stadium. I hope it gets renovated in the future
Same I’ve always liked solider field
On top of everything you mentioned, the Olympic stadium in Montreal wasn't even completed on-time for the 1976 Olympics. They held the events inside a halfway-finished stadium. Additionally the engineers that designed the diagonal tower thing made a miscalculation and according to the original design it would have been too heavy to support its own weight, so they had to change it while it was already under construction.
Roger Taillebert😉
please never stop calling it the Edwards Jones Dome, i love the bit
Dude, Hard Rock stadium is doing great!
I love the renovation !!
Demand is high for a great baseball team in Miami just look at any Caribbean or wbc game. The 2 main problems are 1.) Miami is very expensive to live in no one is wasting their money to go support a team that hasn’t attempted to put a good team in the field since the team was first founded. (The two WS wins were lucked into and the complete dismantling of both teams the year after winning shows that they wouldn’t even put an extra dime into the team even if they can guarantee they would be competitive) 2.) the traffic. going to a game especially on weekdays is about a 2 hour minimum ordeal with an empty stadium just to get to the area. Add that to game time and the amount of things there are to do in Miami no one is going out of their way to waste that much time and money to go watch their team get slapped. I’m summary it comes down to winning if you win in Miami the fans will come without winning the fans will stay home.
Yep but even if they win, people will still use the “We have beaches” attitude and still not go unless they somehow make it to the LCS and/or World Series.
@@Cerby1979not even that because go back and watch either 97 or 03 World Series they barely sold out games in Miami
MetLife Stadium will be the site of the 2026 World Cup Final.
Gotta remember the Redskins were leaving RFK with 55K seating and a really long waiting list...they should have capped at 65 to 70K but they thought with the waiting list they had they were good.
I remember they built FedEx field really fast,so fast that by the time it opened, not everything was installed yet, the Ravens were building their stadium at the time too and took more time on it
Olympic stadium in Montreal can't do a complete stadium rebuild at all because right under the tower is the aquatic center (swimming pool) there. Built for aquatic in the Olympics. And the bio dome was the velodrome which removed it a long time ago which is now a bio dome. So renovation of the stadium without doing the roof is tough because of the tower sit right up of the aquatic center there. So that the bad design there. So why did the ioc agree with this back then. So that not be active to this day. It vomit and that is it here. Agree everyone.
The Big O became Te Big Owe
Didn't they paint the roof orange??
As a Brit, we have very different opinions on what is a good stadium (for example a lot of brits love soldier field, and I know it’s not liked as much by our American friends)
But despite this, MetLife is universally disliked.
Loan Depot park lives in this guys head rent free
Disagree about the Ballpark in Arlington. Arlington Stadium, which had a certain charm in a loved minor league park kinda way (which it was originally) had to go sooner rather than later and retractable roof tech hadn't been perfected when TBIA was on the drawing board. One of the proposals for the Rangers was covering it with some sort of retractable roof but it just made more sense to build a new one. It's still standing as a event venue.
They need to use Loan Depot Park for the Olympics some day.
You don’t like any Stadium.
One of the big negatives for both The Trop and Loan Depot has been location. Neither are in an area that is easily accessible for their fan bases. The Marlins are stuck where they are because their stadium is relatively new, but the Rays have no excuse if they build a new park next to the old one that nobody can get to.
That’s false especially when it comes to Tropicana field because over a month ago wwe sold out that building but yet the rays can’t fill that place up is embarrassing
@@Nega_Duck_X a one off event compared to a 81 game home schedule plus potential playoff games.
The Dome at America's Center(Opening as the Trans World Dome in 1995) NEVER impressed me. Just a dark, dull dome.
It's funny, I was on vacation in NYC in 2009 with my dad and a friend of ours. Our hotel was a block from Giants Stadium. All 3 of us agreed the old Giants Stadium looked better from the outside than Metlife (which was only partially built). Nothing I've seen on TV has changed my mind.
Back when Fed-ex broke ground… NFL games filled that stadium… today, NFL and MLB teams ticket prices have gone so high… most just choose to watch it on the television and stay home… going to the stadium almost feels like price gouging… hell, I used to go to my local AAA games for my family of 6 for the price I could have gotten into MLB level games for alone… maybe get a ticket for the wife.. (doubtful)… They are closing those levels off to validate their prices rather than try to sell them at a discount… These teams don’t deserve their fans anymore… I applaud cities that refuse to give into the pressure to build new…
Personally - I feel MetLife stadium IS the Best stadium in the NFL mainly because of its Ripple Exterior. Let Me Explain:
MetLife has the ripple exterior that allows even the toughest winds to flow right through the building which allows little or no effect to the kicking game in either the NFL or soccer and at the same time allow fans to have a full comfortable outdoor stadium experience no matter how cold it gets. It's certainly better than Lambeau Field.
Other stadiums like SOFI, Allegiant, AT&T and U.S. Bank stadium may be more pleasing to the naked eye and have roofs to isolate the wind effect to the game - It gives fans more of an advanced arena type feel rather than a true stadium feel. It feels good in the beginning, But after a time the arena feel takes its toll.
The Advanced Roof Stadiums may look better, But Technically MetLife Stadium IS better. Very few people realize this.
Stadiums are being built or upgraded to ripple exteriors all over the world. It's catching on wether anyone knows it or not. Check out videos of the new Real Madrid Stadium in Santiago and the new Xian International Sports Center in China.
That’s not really true about the Rams. People loved the Rams. They were generally the third team, behind the Cardinals and Blues, but they had pretty strong attendance despite the crappy teams they fielded in the late 2000s. Support for the Rams didn’t plummet until it became obvious Stan Kroenke had no interest in keeping the team in STL. At that point, fans gave up. But I think had Kroenke and the NFL committed to St. Louis and built the new stadium, you’d see massive fan support for the Rams. The XFL’s Battlehawks now play in the Dome, and they have a lot of fan support. The Dome isn’t great by any means, but there were a lot of remedies available and instead Kroenke, Goodell, Jones and a lot of other key people within the NFL decided to just abandon the city. And even that could have been more tolerable had they also not made the city spend millions on their pitch to build a new stadium while knowing there was a 0% chance of it happening. Once Kroenke bought the land in LA, the ballgame was over and the NFL made sure to scorch the earth on its way out of St Louis.
St. Louis didn’t keep its promise
@@1999bill1999 and what promise was that? The only thing St Louis did wrong was give the Rams an easy out of their lease. After that, the only broken promises came from the NFL. And that’s why the NFL ultimately ended up forced to pay the city more than $300 million.
@@1999bill1999
Then why did the NFL pay them almost a 800 million dollars in damages
@@jasonkoch3182 That was St. Louis big mistake. Giving the Rams that ridiculous opt out clause
Rams should’ve never left Los Angeles in the first I’m glad their back home in LA. As for St. Louis they should’ve got the Saints from New Orleans in the 90’s and relocate to St. Louis and that still might happen.
So glad you put MetLife Stadium on this list. They raised so much money from Giants and Jets season ticket holders and then still didn’t bother to put a dome or retractable roof on it. Giants stadium was actually a better Stadium than MetLife.
Damn, it's a shame that new riverfront stadium in St Louis didn't get built, that rendering looks sweet!
The UFL XFL STL Battlehawks played at the Battle Dome (The Dome at America's Center). And STL holds the best attendance in spring football despite the NFL Rams' departure. I learned that after the 1st UFL season in 2024, STL is going to renovate the turf. And I hope soon, IMO, they'll replace the roof with custom manufactured ETFE while keeping the roof support as is. Maybe cut down uppder deck end zone seats for additional columns and new scoreboards to support the roof and make the dome suitable for a retractable roof. Only time will tell. Anyway, football STILL exists in STL!
Arlington stadium was more of a minor league stadium that didn't bring in the revenue. The ballpark in Arlington was built to bring in revenue to the team where they could compete. The heat really wasn't any issue until they were forced to played day games un the mid 2000. Before all the games were played at night.😮
Marlins Park is amazing.
It's crazy how all the Latino fans will show up at Loan Depot park for their countries during the WBC or Caribbean Series, but they can't unite behind the Marlins.
Because marlins haven’t try to build a winning team
And the WBC or Caribbean games are not 81 games long
Miami Hurricanes lost the LEGENDARY iconic Orange Bowl just so the Marlins could have this Beautiful stadium where baseball is NOT WANTED
The Orange Bowl was an absolute DUMP at the end.
This guy and his obsession with natural light haha.
Don’t forget to mention logos in the scoreboards as well as no walls of seats either
He's also obsessed with small crowds
He needs to watch games at a Park or something 😂
The old Soldier Field was declared a national historic landmark, so it could not be torn down. The City of Chicago, who owns the stadium and not the Bears, created a loophole for themselves. They decided they could build within the old façade and columns, then claim it was still the same building. Hence what they have now.
At night the Trop looks like a sliced orange.
I think it looks more like a sliced watermelon, but hey it's your opinion.
11:51 Please give me renderings of my plan to renovate MetLife Stadium. I have two massive 4k scoreboards that I plan on building. The one on the field will measure 7,280 square feet (360 + 160 X 2 X 7), the other scoreboard measures a massive 118,800 square feet, or 910 + 740 X 2 X 36, replacing the four video screens they currently have. The renovation also includes two touchdown apples (one each for the Giants and Jets) and the top few rows of some seating sections will be replaced by pretty flowers. And the stadium will have fireworks for beautiful girls moments (Example: A Jets player gives a football to a beautiful girl after scoring a touchdown).
If you think it was so bad, the WSU United football league have a team in St. Louis is playing in the Edwards Dome in the first place, if you think it’s so bad
You forgot Turner Field and the Georgia Dome.
P.S Next do 15 never built stadiums that should have been built.
What’s sad is the Marlins franchise has won 2 World Series in 1997 and 2003, beating 2 really good teams, Cleveland and the Yankees, if that team moves they will have that glorious competitive phase of the then Florida Marlins, it’s just sad with their rich history I mean many teams in baseball ⚾️ don’t even have 1 championship let alone 2 just sad for Florida
Agree that the Marlins should've rebranded and relocated the franchise to any number of more suitable locations: Salt Lake City, Montreal, Portland Oregon, Austin/San Antonio, Charlotte, Nashville, Sacramento, Mexico City or Las Vegas.
It rains almost everyday in the summer in Tampa. That franchise can’t afford a retractable roof facility.
Some of these stadium are hard to get to. If I’m I visiting football fan I’m not going to pay $50 to park. I’m looking for train access.
Metlife has a train station 10 yards from the gate. Fedex Field has a metro line 3/4 of mile away. Stade Olympique has 2 Metro stations under its gate. Edward Jones down has a light rail a like a 5 min walk tops away
@@johnsamoilis6379FedEx Field was an unpleasant walk for me from the Metro. Nashville and Nola I walked from my hotel downtown. Nice and easy.
@@johnsamoilis6379 Where the Houston Texans play, the closest train station is 17 miles away.
The old Oakland Coliseum has the BART. A monorail that stops right at the stadium
@@johnsamoilis6379 M&T Bank Stadium has a Light Rail Stop right next to one of the entrances, also the station at Camden Yards is 3/4 mile walk from it.
Baseball in Florida has been a disaster
Frrrrr
Correction. Ownership of baseball (in South Florida at least) has been a disaster.
that’s right owners not the fans
*Orthwein, not Kraft. Kraft (who was Foxboro Stadium's landlord at the time) bought the Patriots to keep them in Massachusetts.
Candlestick Park is a glaring omission from this list. Weather was cold AF for baseball, the remodel for football didn't help. Traffic was horrible--because there was basically one way in/out, unless you tried to drive through the City. The surrounding neighborhood was a high crime area.
Candlestick wasn’t a waste. The city got over five decades of use out of it between the Giants and 49ers, which has long been the goal of pro sports stadium construction and design.
@@54raynor The stadium lasting is a positive? Aren't they all supposed to last? What color is the sky in your world? Purple? Green? You're being mocked because your ill-formed opinion merits mockery. If Candlestick was so great, why did the Giants and 49ers want to leave so desperately? If the site was so great, they'd have stayed.
@@michaelbaucom4019 they left Candlestick for the exact same reason every team leaves their old stadium: they can make more money in a new one with all the modern bells and whistles.
And yes, getting 50 years out of a stadium is a success. None of the stadiums on this list were even close to that, which is why they were failures and never should have been built.
@@54raynor Google " nearest Home Depot" you're going to need a bigger shovel. The place was a dump. Facts, and facts don't care about your ill-formed opinions
As a giants fan I can totally agree about MetLife. This type of stadium would go great in the 80s or 90s. they should renovate it so we could at least have some open spots. It’s a shame they built it like that
Do you know why most of the Floridian baseball stadiums have secure domes because of the most amount of storms in Florida
The dome in St. Louis was not a great stadium for sure, but it really is just part of the convention center where it has been and still is used a ton for convention events. I think we should have built a huge staduim and entertainment complex just on the other side of the river which would have driven development over there, bit that is Illinois so no funds were available for that! Ha
Wow, the Oakland Coliseum didn't make the list
They got rid of a historic stadium to build loan depo park
The Orange Bowl was a hole.
I love the old Rams dome in STL. The vibe in there had a throwback feel. New domes are too soulless, corporate and depressing.
I still like when they played at the coliseum
Well it's the home for the Battlehawks now! Ka-Kaw!
Dude, are you crazy? The Rams Dome was the biggest pile of crap ever. There’s a reason no one attended. I’m so happy they moved to sunny warm LA.
The dome in St. Louis is the definition of soulless and depressing. It was completely outdated by 2010.
@@walterwhite1Being sunny is the only thing LA has going for it. Absolute shithole lmao
A list of other venues that should have never been built were: The Georgia Dome, Levi's Stadium, Comiskey Park II, Comerica Park, Turner Field, Yankee Stadium part II, and Reliant/NRG Stadium.
@@jasonrandom372 Yes it's actually named NRG Stadium.
@@jasonrandom372It was called Reliant Stadium when it was built. Reliant Energy is the local power company. Later, they became a subsidiary of NRG Energy. (Which when you think about is redundant because “NRG” is the phonetic spelling of “energy”.
BTW, I disagree with Lonnie that stadium shouldn’t have been built. The Houston Oilers played in the Astrodome which only held around 54,000 for football, and being circular, many of the upper deck seats weren’t optimal for football. Plus, it was the main reason Bud Adams moved the team to Nashville. Reliant Stadium (now NRG Stadium) was absolutely a good choice.
Agree with Lonnie’s other stadiums which shouldn’t have been built, or at least should have been built more like their predecessor. Especially the ballparks for the ChiSox and Tigers. They’re both bad designs for baseball.
Wait a second...what do you have against Turner Field????
@@michaelcrawford8401 The problem that I have with Turner Field is that the design is out of date.
@@OldRustySteele Some of other sports venues that should not have been built were Shea Stadium, Veterans Field, Three Rivers Stadium, Chase Field, and The Oakland Coliseum. Raymond James Stadium, First Energy Stadium, Globe Life Field, American Family Field, and Highmark Stadium should not have been built.
FedEx Field when it was built made sense. The team was still owned by JKC and had such historic run in the 80s/90s that there was a massive backlog of season ticket requests. 91,000 seats sounds like a lot, but they lead the NFL in attendance for its first decade until Synder ruined it.
Landover may not be the most exotic place, but it's hardly "the middle of nowhere". It's still only a few miles from the District and it's convenient to the Beltway. At the time, this made sense.
All of the things said about the Marlins, were said about the Florida Panthers as far as attendance. And all of the same things apply. If the team is well managed and routinely successful on the field, the people will show up. The Panthers have been a perennial successful team for a few years now, and the attendance has reflected that. This could be said about all South Florida sports teams by the way.
And, most sports teams don't do well with the attendance if the team is perennially mediocre to bad for years on end. A fluke year of success here and there is not going to change that.
Replace Sun Life with the Alamodome
Definitely agree with the Dome I never understood it complete waste we barely have winters
Maybe for Loan Depot Park replace the retractable dome for the Translucent Dome
Imo most of the stadiums built around the early 2010’s till 2020 were totally money grabbing by the owners by us taxpayers
The Marlins played playoff baseball there a couple of years ago when they had that female GM that used to be a Yankees Executive!
I think Montreal's Olympic Stadium is quite beautiful. Just a sad story that the cost overruns doomed it from the start.
should add New England
One thing i don't care for about the NFL compared to MLB is that the NFL DOES NOT preserve older stadiums with rich history at all! As soon as football stadium is considered old, they just tare it down, as opposed to Major league baseball that actually preserve their historical stadiums such as Fenway and Wrigley feild....
Fenway, Wrigley and Dodger Stadium are the exceptions. All the other MLB teams got new stadiums. NFL stadiums just don't feel as historic -- with the exception of Lambeau Field and possibly Soldier Field. I think it's because college football is where the longer history is -- the NFL and its stadiums came later.
When the Packers visited the Chargers at that soccer stadium they played till Sofi opened. It was well over 90% Green and Gold. Though the Packers lost that game the cheering for the Chargers was minimal.
I watch NFL Redzone, being a Packer fan in Michigan. Whenever the Chargers have a home game at Sofi, It's always basically an away/home game for their opponents, especially their divisional opponents. It's mostly evident when the Raiders visit. I've seen games where you have to look real real hard to find Charger fans. I have to check the chyron on the bottom of the screen to see who's the home team. Granted the stadiums are different from a distance but when you see the field and just the lower stands it can he hard to tell in an instant. All the Raider games at Sofi are pretty much entirely Silver and Black, and the cheering is louder. I know it's not possible for it to be exponential, but it almost seems to be exponential. There's almost no cheering for the Chargers when Vegas visits. It's really a sad state of affairs when the cheapness of an owner destroys a teams income from home games. Instead of trying to build a new stadium in San Diego he took the miserly (were talking Bah Humbug) way out by going to S0FI(eventually), which is, for all intent and purposes, super cheap compared to a new stadium.
Heck the Rams aren't much better off. We beat the Rams at SOFI this past season and I swear it was at least 70% Packer fans. It was nice to see such a nice crowd on the road, but I weep for both San Diego and St. Louis who got hosed out of teams by greed.
The worst thing about Soldier Field is the location. Getting in and out of there is a major pain. Public trans options are even worse. The city made a proposal to build a dome and have a train line drop off directly in the stadium. Judging on the design only it's polarizing. I personally think its fine from a aesthetic point of view.
The St. Louis situation is clearly seen in hindsight. The government had to get the citizens to approve it so they couldn't spend more than necessary. It's why the Rams left LA. The dome also had to be connected to the convention center in order for it to be viable. It also hosted a final four in '05. With the Cardinals leaving for Phoenix after the '87 season, the thought was, "if we can build a football only stadium, someone will come and all will be well."
The city of St. Louis built a dome because of the colder weather. They lost the Cardinals in the 80s because they wouldn't build a dome. They didn't keep the Rams because they couldn't fund a new dome. It had to be a dome. I'm a Jets fan so I don't often speak well of the Dolphins, but the renovated Hard Rock Stadium looks nice. They need to use Loan Depot Park for the Olympics someday. In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. It would help if you had the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase. Soldier Field, the Bears never wanted to be there in the first place so why renovate it Candlestick Park is a glaring omission from this list. The weather was cold AF for baseball, the remodel for football didn't help. Traffic was horrible--because there was basically one way in/out unless you tried to drive through the City. The surrounding neighborhood was a high-crime area. Marlins Park is amazing. The Dome at America's Center(Opening as the Trans World Dome in 1995) NEVER impressed me. Just a dark, dull dome. 8# Miami Gardens In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. You need the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase. Baseball in Florida has been a disaster I really hope that the Bears move out of Soldier Field, and the White Sox move in with major renovations. I know that the odds of this happening are low as the White Sox have other plans, but that would be such a great location for a ballpark, and the pillars would be a great feature. Just make a video on why ALL stadiums and arenas that have ever been built since 500 BC suck! 😂The Marlins should have moved to Saint Pete to compete directly against the Rays at Edward Jones Stadium, not Edwards Jones. A side note. Chargers should have never left San Diego. Owner Dean Spanos had too many people in his ear thinking the team would double in value if moved to LA. Forbes put a new list saying the team is still worth the same amount in LA as it would be if it stayed in San Diego because no major fanbase for them in LA. It's Rams, 49ers, and Cowboys fans in LA. Any stadium built without a tenant in place (Alamodome, Dome at America's Center, Tropicana Field...) shouldn't have been built. Marlins Stadium looks futuristic on the outside, but the inside is very cafeteria-like. The nearest highway has also been under constant construction for about 15 years and is gridlocked every day starting at 3pm.
I would add Comerica Park (Tigers) and Guaranteed Rate Stadium (White Sox). The old Tiger Stadium and White Sox Stadium were perfect for baseball. They had the model for what a baseball stadium should be but decided they had to fix what wasn't broken. so I am sorry I love the old Rams dome in STL. The vibe in there had a throwback feel. New domes are too soulless, corporate, and depressing thank you did not making it really here I am so sorry love you take care as a fan is over this week okay on live really here to the Rams thank you.
And wander Franco’s actions certainly don’t help the rays as well unfortunately :( what a shame. Love the videos!
To be fair to Marlins fans, the ownership has always been complete garbage. Sure, 2 WS wins but those teams were immediately ripped apart to save $$. And 2023 is the 1st year the Marlins even had a winning record since Loan Depot was built, excluding the tiny, crowd-less 2020 pandemic season. There’s no reason for fans in any city to support them.
In Tropicana Field's case, it was just dumb to build a stadium with the hopes of attracting a team. You need the dome in FL, but glass windows where the gray walls are would fix a lot of The Trop's ambiance issues. Nothing will fix an MLB stadium in St. Petersburg though. I'm baffled why Miami hates baseball and it's a shame LoanDepot Park isn't enjoyed by a supportive fanbase.
Actually Virginia was one of the sites, Laurel MD was the Other.. because the vicinity to Baltimore, and the Ravens haven't arrived yet that almost got built, still Fedex field location was not Nowhere, DC area is very sprawl most people live outside DC
And the Bullets and Capitals used to play in Landover when the old Capital Center was there. It's not like it was an out of nowhere suburb to build a stadium. Still, the Commanders belong in DC or possibly northern Virginia.
The strangest thing is they building up the area around Marlins Park.
The problem is Tampa Bay Area weather: They have the highest concentration of thunderstorm days in the US; and they NEED an indoor stadium due to lightning.
The White Sox and Giants considered moving to Tampa before they got the Rays
The Mariners also before they talked about moving to Japan. The Giants & White Sox used Tampa to get new stadium in their city
As far as MetLife Stadium, I think the old Giants Stadium was better. I think most people who attend games there think the same.
The guy behind the Ballpark in Arlington, Tom Schieffer, was very big on outdoor baseball. He was unhappy that the new stadium had the retractable roof, even despite the logic behind it.
Soldier field wasn't a situation of them "liking the pillars". The pillars are nationally protected. They CANT be torn down so you have to either build within them or build around them or build somewhere else.
The Trop. "If we build it, someone will come. Uh, someone will.... Uh, SOMEONE?
Re the Rangers. The new stadium (now not so new and called Choctaw Stadium) was built when retractable roof stadiums were not yet very popular. I used to work for the Rangers and did ballpark tours at both (what was then) Globe Life Park and Its replacement, Globe Life Field. I think if they had built Globe Life Park a few years later, it would have had a retractable roof. They DID have day games there during the summer thanks to the ESPN Sunday Night Baseball contract. This also led to Thursday 'getaway games' during the day.
Tropicana field is a cursed stadium 😂😂
they dind't just like de pillars in chicago. the old stadium (or at least its facade) is listed as historic. it cant be demolished
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Please remember the following: All Florida baseball stadiums must keep their roofs closed due to the impact of hurricanes on every city.
Marlins Park was a disaster
I really hope that the Bears move out of Soldier Field, and the White Sox move in with major renovations. I know that the odds of this happening are low as the White Sox have other plans, but that would be such a great location for a ballpark, and the pillars would be a great feature.
It's Edward Jones, not Edwards Jones.
Yeah, he consistently says it wrong in every video where he mentions it.
Chicago was forced to keep the pillars because they are a historical landmark.
Ginger is really weird.
The irony is the teams that play in the stadiums have been terrible. If some of the teams were winners we'd be talking about how it's an "electric" atmosphere.
Every time Bruce Springsteen plays at MetLife he sells it out so he's happy it has wrap around upper deck bleachers. That's more money for him.
“Edward” Jones Dome