The thing about Panasonic is they overbuild their hardware to accommodate for future software updates. Firmware is only going to get better and make full use of everything under the hood later down the line.
I just bought an s1 for 2300 with the 24-105 on amazon. It was open box. Prices are coming down quick. I'm glad because I was just about to buy an a7iii
@@michaelholzhausen5741 This same kit was $1,950.00 for 2 weeks. There was about 25 units at this price. Such a steal but I'm saving for the S1H, A7sIII, or EOS R5.
Great video mate! But just a few things you missed out on that clearly place the S1 a rung above the A7iii - Way better weather sealing and durability - Highest Res EVF - A status LCD on the top plate - A superior High Res Mode - Best in class video recording capabilities The continuous AF seemed to hold up pretty well in this video. I'm sure the prices will come down too with time! I'd be okay paying up to $500 more for the S1
How about it being big AF? It should have a medium format sensor in it at that size. But Panasonic’s MFT camera’s are bigger than Sony’s APS-C bodies, so maybe some people just like a lot to grab onto. Idk.
@@dasaauto2024 I would agree! Panasonic makes bigger than usual bodies but that wouldn't be a negative for me because they are still GREAT handling. I think Sony's full frame bodies are awfully small and quirky. What do you think?
When you did the in studio side by side at around the 6:50 mark...wow. The contrast of the S1 is just so beautiful. Along with the video and photo abilities this is what I'll get before the end of 2019 :)
You always forget to mention that the 4K is in crop mode which is annoying as that zooms the footage in which everyday people wouldn’t be aware of it you didn’t mention it.
At first I thought so as well, and there must be a difference in exposure especially when he was shooting outside. But it seems obvious to me how much better the Lumix controls and renders highlights. Freeze the video at 2:58 and pay attention to the aqua "border" along the leaves in the background on the Sony. Check the S1 afterward. Look also at the transition between that aqua border and the clouds... It's not good on the a7 especially when compared to the S1. That could have something to do with the exposure but I think it has to do more with the 10bit and the internal processing. Freeze it at 10:51; notice how the highlights on the back (on the wood) are much better controlled. Again, he should have exposed by looking at the histogram and not the settings, but still, I doubt the a7 once exposed down would render the highlights as smoothly as the S1.
I have a G7. Bought it the day it was released. After 3 years and 1 drop to the floor to many.. the mechanical shutter no longer works. Electronic shutter and video are just fine. My dilemma was, send it in to get fixed, buy a new one ($500) or put the money to something new. G9 is what I bought and am extremely happy.
The skin tone and color on S1 looks much better than A73. Is it because of the difference in 422 and 420 or just the color science in the camera? Never a fan of the Sony's skin tone. Lol
$2,300 for a standard 50mm...Bit pricey for new lens. They would make millions if they dropped the price of the lens and made the camera lighter and smaller and a flippy screen so you can see yourself. Easy. Put a selfy setting as that's what people recognise in the menu or button and a power button in another area.
They probably don't have the financial resources to drop the price without losing money/profit. And I'm sure the partnership with Leica didn't help either.
The Panasonic video is way more contrasted right out the box. Also the s1h is the full frame gh5 the s1 is absolutely a full frame g9 and that’s exactly what I wanted I was about to buy a g9 before the announcement but I’m glad I held off.
Great video! I am trying to figure out exactly which one of these to choose :) Thank you! I have to say that in the video the Panasonic footage looks way better than the sony? (Or maybe it's just me...)
Great review... saving up for the S1, been a long time Panasonic shooter since I used to work in TV production with the DVX100 (720x576 to miniDV tapes!) and first ever HD varicams - amazing how far they’ve come! Just wondering though why the Sony footage (particularly shots in the back yard) was over exposed compared to the S1? I don’t think it was auto-exposure was it? Just made it look a lot worse for a comparison.
Phil Jones65 - mirrorless smaller, lighter is a fad. Future pro mirrorless cameras will be nearly equivalent in size and weight to its DSLR counterparts.
Phil Jones65 - I believe we have 5 main camera markets; 1. Camera phone (#1 in sales) 2. Consumer (point and click to M50) 3. Entry level + (a6400, EOS RP, Fuji, micro 4/3 cameras) 4. Prosumer (Z6, Z7, EOS R, A7 iii) 5. PRO (5D mark iv, 1dx mark ii, a9, D850, D5) You are about to see big changes in the next two camera manufacturing cycles. Camera companies are currently in a "market testing" phase. The camera phone will continue to squeeze all markets leaving the super cheap and super expensive cameras in the end. Much like our society; the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. Our middle class is being phased out. The current entry level + camera market is dying and will soon be abysmal. The prosumer market will follow, but will take another cycle for this to end. I would not invest in this market right now. Our galaxy's and iphones now have such good cameras and video, that the average person no longer desires "better" photography or video. Convenience always wins, even if it's crap. The future looks bright for high end cameras. The more expensive models will do good, at least this is what Panasonic is projecting. In the next 3-5 years consumer (the poor) cameras will be sub $1,000 ($300-800 range) in order to sell and pro (the rich) cameras will be ruling the market with prices exceeding $4,000 for the average body. Pro camera lenses will averagely exceed $2,000. Z6, a7, eos r are middle-road (prosumer) cameras. This is a "test market" and will begin to die out withing a few years - leaving the cheap, entry level sub $1,000 market and the high end $4,000 plus pro market bodies.
Just waiting this cam: APS-C 4K back-illuminated sensor, internal 10 bit 4:2:2, dual slot SD, great native ISO, 5 axis ISO, >13 stops DR, full size HDMI to external recorders, USB-C, Ronin-S compatibility, Good battery... may the sony a7000 come with similar specs??
Just filmed a play with the S1 and the 70-200 lens. Quality is phenomenal. So very pleased with unlimited 4k internal and extreme low light performance. The lens is crazy good.
A7iii would still be the best all arounder if they just added internal or even external 10 bit. The photo game is better on the sony in terms ofsharpness and lowlight in comparison to its price and to other cameras.
Reviewers mention how the S1 can record 4k 60p but I haven’t seen them show sample footage. The only footage I keep seeing is 4k 24-30p. Also, nobody has talked about the low light capability of the S1 and how well does the autofocus work under lower light scenes.
In my case bigger is better. I have big hands and I find the smaller cameras hard to use because of my big hands. ( and you know what they say about big hands ;) ). So for me the Panasonic S1 will get my money when I can finally afford a Full frame camera
I have medium size hand and I prefer a group grip. EOS R has a very good grip despite the size. So is Panasonic S1. Sony I would need a batter grip and L bracket but that defeat the size advantages
And just like magic you add a grip to the Sony and have yourself a camera for your massive hands while removing the grip for gimbal use. You know what they say about the size of a camera and gimbal use ;)
" Death from Defocus"........ :-) There are just so many things that I love about both of these cameras, I just wish you could put them all together, One camera to rule them all!!
@@TheEverydayDad The more research I do, the better and better the Nikon Z6 looks at almost $1000 cheaper than the S1 with the kit lens by comparison. For the difference, I am well on my way to buying a BMPCC4K in addition and having the best of both worlds! lol
What I mainly noticed is that your face was blurry on the Panasonic a good portion of the time. They really need to work on that auto-focus. A7iii all the way for me.
I like the S1 footage more than sony.... I switched from sony a year ago, first to fuji and then also got an s1. It's good to see other people get similar results.
The point here is, as he says himself in his conclusion, the S1 is a "fantastic camera". The GH5 is just better for Vloggers, TH-camrs, and selfie-takers. The S1 wasn't made for that. But as far as video is concerned, the S1 4K video image quality is just way better than GH5 (full-frame sensor!) and that July 10-bit 4:2:2 internal update will make it the only full-frame mirrorless camera on the market to be able to do that without external recorders via HDMI.
Nice to see the Rode wireless go doing the job! The AFC is important when you're in situations out of control or forget easy, which happens to me often. I love Pana but I'm leaning always to Sony because of that.
Yeah it’s doing an great job for such a tiny package. And there is no perfect camera out there right now so you definitely have to pick an eco system that works with the features you need 👍
I like the way the Sony is overexposed in basically every shot lol. The S1 is a great camera! Nice to see new cameras innovating, and giving the people what they want.
I don't own any of them but I would probably lean towards the S1 based on the 180p, color rendering - 10bit internal, IQ, IBIS, and ease of menu surfing. I would go for the a7 if I wanted something lighter and smaller, cheaper, and lenses available.
I have one ultimate question for me ;) you say you recommend GH5 over S1, then with the same basis of comparison, how about a7III vs GH5? Maybe you have a video on it but I didn’t check all your content yet 😋😉 cheers and thanks for the video you did :))
When you show them side by side you can really see how the S1 is much sharper and has much nicer colors. I didn't expect that. I own the S1 and I love it. I am a Panasonic fanboy(also own the GH4 and GH5s), but this really shows how much better the image is out of the S1. Coming from the GH5s, I love the autofocus on the S1. It actually works pretty well.
S1 has 10bit (422) with update(200$), a7 iii has only 8 bit (420) internally, so for 10 bit you need to get external recorder for a7iii(800$)plus it makes camera heavier. But only for youtube videos, a7iii is good choices.
save $100 at B&H with 24-105mm lens. $3400. Yeah, out of my price range for sure. Pana G9 is what I carry around. But you do pay for that better video image and DR, and comparing the video between the 2, Panasonic hands down wins.
@GameingUboxings+ But it's priced way much more sadly. The DR is better, at least in what was shown here looking at the clouds in the sky. But that size and weight... one reason I went to M43... would be exhausted lugging around my old Canon gear.
@@Reyfox1 Hmmm i dont know mate , the other day i was looking at some sony lenses that cost more than my car ..... seriously , i would say neither is on the cheap side for their quality lenses . it is ok for the camera to be a little cheaper , but the extra`s are just killer .
@@mikldude9376oh yes... when you figure in the cost of actually using it.... beyond my price range. There is always something better coming. I've learned to use what I have and learn how to use it. The G9 is what I use and will be using until it stops. Reminds me of the Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema 4K camera. Amazing price with Resolve included. But outfit it and that is where things go up and up.
Nice comparison, Everyday Dad, but obviously this was highly video-centric, rather than photo-centric, because I would have liked to know about things like STILLS image sharpness, dynamic range, lens comparisons, etc. As I know nothing about the S1 format lenses, but a lot about the high-quality Zeiss and GMaster Sony lenses, I would be interested in knowing which lens/sensor combination would give the best detail/sharpness for a given focal length. Thanks!
I own a G9 and love it (which is hardly a strong enough way to say that) but almost every review is like "they've obviously copied the style of Nikon here" or "full-frame GH5" and I'm over here like "the G9 is a camera too..."
You are correct. There is an AF customization menu in the S1 just like in the upper end Canon dslrs because the default setting doesn't work for all scenarios. I'll bet most of the complaints about the S1's autofocus is from incorrect setting.
Get the S1. Grown men complaining about the weight of a camera and a lens is... sad. Chelsea Northrup, Evelyn from CameraTV, women reviewers on TH-cam are using DSLRs like the 1D mark II, D5, or reviewing the new Fuji GFX100 or Pana's S1/S1R without complaining. If you want a flippy screen, the Pana S1H is coming in the fall. The S1 is simply the best FF mirrorless hybrid on the market. The A7III doesn't even compare. Weather-sealing, 5.6 mil EVF, 400K shutter cycle, 4K 10bit 4:2:0 HLG and soon 10bit 4:2:2 internal with the free VLOG update, doesn't overheat, doesn't feel like a toy, menu system isn't a mess, free 3-year warranty, and now $400 off trade-in rebate until June 22nd... The S1 is getting the exact same video features as the GH5 for free.
For run and gun people, the a7iii hybrid AF is going to be a life saver. For more professional video workers, the s1 is the way to go. BUT... can't ignore those cheap and great Tamron lenses.....
The color out of S1 is much more pleasing, more vibrant, and more punchy than that of A73.. But for purely VDO and Vlog work, considering size/price/feature/ecosystem, GH5 may be better than those two, even in 2019.. Thanks for excellent comparisons..
These are so gorgeous. I'm don't with APS-C especially APS-C without stabilization. These FFs are lightning years ahead. I'm done settling for expensive gear that doesn't deliver. Even my a6400 is awesome in daylight, but when you push the ISO or need stabilization due to low light, it fails.
The Panasonic Lumix S1 looks amazing but a little pricey 😂 Also what editing software do you use? I'm trying to get started on TH-cam and don't know too much about it😂 I would love help and advice if possible. Thanks👍
Isn't it amazing how close the Panasonic looks like the big Leica? Since Leica and Panasonic have been in collaboration for years. No surprise there. I will still take the Sony even with its mental interface and dipsy doodle body. The A7 mk.3 is telepathic in response. Astigmatism backgrounds I will never tolerate and Sony is spot tack sharp everytime. Panasonic adopts phase detect then Panasonic is my camera. Still the forgiven and holy covenant video camera the GH5. WTF! Same lame DFD, but the video in a GH5 is still it!
No real mention of ergonomics comparison was a bit of a let down ... the Sony ergos suck, period. I was curious to hear how the S1 ergos (not necessarily just size) compareEverything else was on point.
Man if they would have just made a full frame gh5 /GH6 with 60 frames 10-bit internal it would have been a done deal for me I would have bought two of them
Another great video. The gh5 it is. The new Panasonic full frame system is to new now to buy in for me and no more flip out screen and a recording limit now. Plus a high price tag, though they did do better than Olympus with their 3000 plus camera.
I own the S1 and lemme tell you, its ability to handle 10bit 4k 30p and 60p HEAT....is superior to the A7-III. I strongly suspect that Sony's next generation A7S-III will NEED to be the size of the S1 in order to match it's 10bit color and 60p 4k sensor heat and image processing. In fact, I think the Lumix S1 "IS" the A7S-III that we were all waiting for.
That’s true, I doubt Sony would be able to keep their current body design and increase the recording capabilities without either a bigger body or radically new sensor design.
A7SIII was rumored to be release late last year but had heat issue. I think they will need a new body or severely limit 4K60 to a couple minutes to avoid those heat issue. I suspect a bigger size but not S1 size.
@@Atemoya26 - Let's all face it. With a Sony BSI sensor, 10bit color, 6k to 4k full pixel readout in 30p, 4k 60p in super 35mm. (like most 4k cinema cameras)....and!....with 4k raw over a full sized HDMI that I "know" is coming to the S1 later this year.... THIS "IS" THE "A7S-III" THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR!!!
@@clifftotten7609 You don't have to convince me. I pre-order one. Cost about the same as A7III after selling the pre-order special. I don't shoot video but the features are very nice and I will use it for vacation. I think S1 might be the best camera I've own and it's only camera I left Canon after being with them for 10 years. I tried EOS R, A7RIII, A9, A7III as well. It's pretty much everything I hope Canon EOS R to be but didn't. At $2250 with free battery and grip, it's a steal
Why do people make such an emphasis in auto focus? Id like to see you do a cinematic comparison for film not just fkr vlogging. Cuz "filmmakers" use manual...we hate auto focus. If you make a judgement based off auto focus id be questioning your skills with a camera as auto focus doesnt take skill at all. The Sony IBS sucked hardcore yet youd choose that over a Lumix? All because of auto focus? Lame lol The image overall was much more appealing in the Lumix. Color and overall more a film look. Yall who keep making these videos i challenge you to see which camera is more cinematic. A cameras auto focus will suck if the cintrast isnt there. Maual you have more control. I like Sony but Lumix is so much better.
The thing about Panasonic is they overbuild their hardware to accommodate for future software updates. Firmware is only going to get better and make full use of everything under the hood later down the line.
Did it pay off? I'm looking to save up for the S1 instead of the A7 III
@@antonine.rodrigue8769 let me know which one you went for, same situation here lol
Soooo. 10 years from now I’ll be able to afford a heavily used S1 on eBay got $700 😂
Yeah just a decade to go
I mean unlike the Nikon D100 it will still be usable in 10 years.
I just bought an s1 for 2300 with the 24-105 on amazon. It was open box. Prices are coming down quick. I'm glad because I was just about to buy an a7iii
@@michaelholzhausen5741 This same kit was $1,950.00 for 2 weeks. There was about 25 units at this price. Such a steal but I'm saving for the S1H, A7sIII, or EOS R5.
Great video mate! But just a few things you missed out on that clearly place the S1 a rung above the A7iii
- Way better weather sealing and durability
- Highest Res EVF
- A status LCD on the top plate
- A superior High Res Mode
- Best in class video recording capabilities
The continuous AF seemed to hold up pretty well in this video. I'm sure the prices will come down too with time!
I'd be okay paying up to $500 more for the S1
How about it being big AF? It should have a medium format sensor in it at that size. But Panasonic’s MFT camera’s are bigger than Sony’s APS-C bodies, so maybe some people just like a lot to grab onto. Idk.
@@dasaauto2024 I would agree! Panasonic makes bigger than usual bodies but that wouldn't be a negative for me because they are still GREAT handling. I think Sony's full frame bodies are awfully small and quirky. What do you think?
When you did the in studio side by side at around the 6:50 mark...wow. The contrast of the S1 is just so beautiful. Along with the video and photo abilities this is what I'll get before the end of 2019 :)
You always forget to mention that the 4K is in crop mode which is annoying as that zooms the footage in which everyday people wouldn’t be aware of it you didn’t mention it.
Bad video comparison, the Sony A7III is heavily overexposed.
Auto ISO
@@PB-kf4qt you know you're contradicting yourself, right ?
At first I thought so as well, and there must be a difference in exposure especially when he was shooting outside. But it seems obvious to me how much better the Lumix controls and renders highlights. Freeze the video at 2:58 and pay attention to the aqua "border" along the leaves in the background on the Sony. Check the S1 afterward. Look also at the transition between that aqua border and the clouds... It's not good on the a7 especially when compared to the S1. That could have something to do with the exposure but I think it has to do more with the 10bit and the internal processing. Freeze it at 10:51; notice how the highlights on the back (on the wood) are much better controlled. Again, he should have exposed by looking at the histogram and not the settings, but still, I doubt the a7 once exposed down would render the highlights as smoothly as the S1.
Lmao idk why i'm watching this, cant even afford these cameras, happy with my Lumix G7 though
Which is still a really awesome little camera 👍
I have a G7. Bought it the day it was released. After 3 years and 1 drop to the floor to many.. the mechanical shutter no longer works. Electronic shutter and video are just fine. My dilemma was, send it in to get fixed, buy a new one ($500) or put the money to something new. G9 is what I bought and am extremely happy.
The skin tone and color on S1 looks much better than A73. Is it because of the difference in 422 and 420 or just the color science in the camera? Never a fan of the Sony's skin tone. Lol
422 on S1 won't be available till July.
Excellent review.. What about a S1 vs Gh5 review? ;)
I might have to do that, but it depends on when I have to give the s1 back 🤷♂️
Me : wow nice camera
My budget : yes
**poor soul
$2,300 for a standard 50mm...Bit pricey for new lens. They would make millions if they dropped the price of the lens and made the camera lighter and smaller and a flippy screen so you can see yourself. Easy. Put a selfy setting as that's what people recognise in the menu or button and a power button in another area.
They probably don't have the financial resources to drop the price without losing money/profit. And I'm sure the partnership with Leica didn't help either.
The Panasonic video is way more contrasted right out the box. Also the s1h is the full frame gh5 the s1 is absolutely a full frame g9 and that’s exactly what I wanted I was about to buy a g9 before the announcement but I’m glad I held off.
Excellent comparison. Love all the B roll and the vlogging test. Autofocus is really important. Especially when you don't have a flip out sceen.
I definitely agree 👍
Lets be honest here... when you show up to a professional gig with a tiny camera... the client wonders why you brought a toy.
Great video! I am trying to figure out exactly which one of these to choose :) Thank you!
I have to say that in the video the Panasonic footage looks way better than the sony? (Or maybe it's just me...)
I agree but I think that has more to do with the auto setting than how comparable footage would look.
@@TheEverydayDad Sure! That could very well be. I really appreciate the two videos you made on the S1, they have been very helpful!
Wow! The S1 looks waaaay better than the A7III...
Great review... saving up for the S1, been a long time Panasonic shooter since I used to work in TV production with the DVX100 (720x576 to miniDV tapes!) and first ever HD varicams - amazing how far they’ve come! Just wondering though why the Sony footage (particularly shots in the back yard) was over exposed compared to the S1? I don’t think it was auto-exposure was it? Just made it look a lot worse for a comparison.
colors and DR much better in panasonic :P
Phil Jones65 - same reason pro video studio cameras aren't small. Real men have the proper sized equipment.
Phil Jones65 - mirrorless smaller, lighter is a fad. Future pro mirrorless cameras will be nearly equivalent in size and weight to its DSLR counterparts.
Phil Jones65 - I believe we have 5 main camera markets;
1. Camera phone (#1 in sales)
2. Consumer (point and click to M50)
3. Entry level + (a6400, EOS RP, Fuji, micro 4/3 cameras)
4. Prosumer (Z6, Z7, EOS R, A7 iii)
5. PRO (5D mark iv, 1dx mark ii, a9, D850, D5)
You are about to see big changes in the next two camera manufacturing cycles. Camera companies are currently in a "market testing" phase.
The camera phone will continue to squeeze all markets leaving the super cheap and super expensive cameras in the end. Much like our society; the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. Our middle class is being phased out.
The current entry level + camera market is dying and will soon be abysmal.
The prosumer market will follow, but will take another cycle for this to end. I would not invest in this market right now.
Our galaxy's and iphones now have such good cameras and video, that the average person no longer desires "better" photography or video. Convenience always wins, even if it's crap.
The future looks bright for high end cameras. The more expensive models will do good, at least this is what Panasonic is projecting. In the next 3-5 years consumer (the poor) cameras will be sub $1,000 ($300-800 range) in order to sell and pro (the rich) cameras will be ruling the market with prices exceeding $4,000 for the average body. Pro camera lenses will averagely exceed $2,000.
Z6, a7, eos r are middle-road (prosumer) cameras. This is a "test market" and will begin to die out withing a few years - leaving the cheap, entry level sub $1,000 market and the high end $4,000 plus pro market bodies.
Just waiting this cam: APS-C 4K back-illuminated sensor, internal 10 bit 4:2:2, dual slot SD, great native ISO, 5 axis ISO, >13 stops DR, full size HDMI to external recorders, USB-C, Ronin-S compatibility, Good battery... may the sony a7000 come with similar specs??
That would be an amazing camera! 😍
I can't believe it but I actually think I like the S1 video quality over the a7iii. Very impressive, Gary. If we could only ditch the dfd focus.
Just filmed a play with the S1 and the 70-200 lens. Quality is phenomenal. So very pleased with unlimited 4k internal and extreme low light performance. The lens is crazy good.
and crazy expensive also
adigyran not compared to similar quality on other platforms.
Either the s1 has much better dynamic range or in the vlogging test the a7iii was over exposed
viva españa y la nocilla It must have been overexposed, they have the same sensor inside. Most companies gauge their iso values a bit differently
It looks really over exposed. I get way better contrast and colors out of mine, even in broad daylight, especially with a polarized filter on it.
A7iii would still be the best all arounder if they just added internal or even external 10 bit. The photo game is better on the sony in terms ofsharpness and lowlight in comparison to its price and to other cameras.
Reviewers mention how the S1 can record 4k 60p but I haven’t seen them show sample footage. The only footage I keep seeing is 4k 24-30p.
Also, nobody has talked about the low light capability of the S1 and how well does the autofocus work under lower light scenes.
Hey, do you think Panasonic can fix the AF issue with firmware update, so it became similar as the Sony AF system?
In my case bigger is better. I have big hands and I find the smaller cameras hard to use because of my big hands. ( and you know what they say about big hands ;) ).
So for me the Panasonic S1 will get my money when I can finally afford a Full frame camera
That’s very true, it does matter a lot about a persons physical stature because it’s definitely a big ol camera 🤣
@@TheEverydayDad bonus is ill get to build up my arm muscles too :)
Gotta be strong 🤣💪
I have medium size hand and I prefer a group grip. EOS R has a very good grip despite the size. So is Panasonic S1.
Sony I would need a batter grip and L bracket but that defeat the size advantages
And just like magic you add a grip to the Sony and have yourself a camera for your massive hands while removing the grip for gimbal use. You know what they say about the size of a camera and gimbal use ;)
" Death from Defocus"........ :-)
There are just so many things that I love about both of these cameras, I just wish you could put them all together, One camera to rule them all!!
I know right? 😍
@@TheEverydayDad The more research I do, the better and better the Nikon Z6 looks at almost $1000 cheaper than the S1 with the kit lens by comparison. For the difference, I am well on my way to buying a BMPCC4K in addition and having the best of both worlds! lol
What I mainly noticed is that your face was blurry on the Panasonic a good portion of the time. They really need to work on that auto-focus. A7iii all the way for me.
I like the S1 footage more than sony.... I switched from sony a year ago, first to fuji and then also got an s1. It's good to see other people get similar results.
The point here is, as he says himself in his conclusion, the S1 is a "fantastic camera". The GH5 is just better for Vloggers, TH-camrs, and selfie-takers. The S1 wasn't made for that. But as far as video is concerned, the S1 4K video image quality is just way better than GH5 (full-frame sensor!) and that July 10-bit 4:2:2 internal update will make it the only full-frame mirrorless camera on the market to be able to do that without external recorders via HDMI.
Nice to see the Rode wireless go doing the job! The AFC is important when you're in situations out of control or forget easy, which happens to me often. I love Pana but I'm leaning always to Sony because of that.
Yeah it’s doing an great job for such a tiny package.
And there is no perfect camera out there right now so you definitely have to pick an eco system that works with the features you need 👍
You can put a camera on a gimbal to add stabilization but you can’t improve upon in built autofocus performance
That’s very true.
I want the S1 so bad but I know I have to buy the A7 III - That autofocus men - it hurts my soul...
I didn't see any differences in AF.
Can you do extensive AF test when you have a chance between the two? Dark room, eyeAF, AF-C.
Errm, constantly out of focus in video on the Pana?
lol you sure you have good eye sight?
@@weedylock Ex. 10:35
How can you compare the image quality without even commenting (at least after) on how much you overexposed the sony?
The enthusiasm is on point👌🏼
Thanks so much! 😁👍
I like the way the Sony is overexposed in basically every shot lol.
The S1 is a great camera! Nice to see new cameras innovating, and giving the people what they want.
S1 AF hunts af.
Are you left handed? If not bold choice putting the Panasonic in your off hand.
I don't own any of them but I would probably lean towards the S1 based on the 180p, color rendering - 10bit internal, IQ, IBIS, and ease of menu surfing. I would go for the a7 if I wanted something lighter and smaller, cheaper, and lenses available.
I have one ultimate question for me ;) you say you recommend GH5 over S1, then with the same basis of comparison, how about a7III vs GH5? Maybe you have a video on it but I didn’t check all your content yet 😋😉 cheers and thanks for the video you did :))
When you show them side by side you can really see how the S1 is much sharper and has much nicer colors. I didn't expect that. I own the S1 and I love it. I am a Panasonic fanboy(also own the GH4 and GH5s), but this really shows how much better the image is out of the S1. Coming from the GH5s, I love the autofocus on the S1. It actually works pretty well.
S1 has 10bit (422) with update(200$), a7 iii has only 8 bit (420) internally, so for 10 bit you need to get external recorder for a7iii(800$)plus it makes camera heavier. But only for youtube videos, a7iii is good choices.
2 of your favorite. There's literally only a handful my man! 😂
Okay the real deal. now the price tag, $3500 😂
save $100 at B&H with 24-105mm lens. $3400. Yeah, out of my price range for sure. Pana G9 is what I carry around. But you do pay for that better video image and DR, and comparing the video between the 2, Panasonic hands down wins.
@GameingUboxings+ yeah, especially that it uses L mount, so Best quality, and with the same lens i could mount it to my Leica T😂
@GameingUboxings+ But it's priced way much more sadly. The DR is better, at least in what was shown here looking at the clouds in the sky. But that size and weight... one reason I went to M43... would be exhausted lugging around my old Canon gear.
@@Reyfox1 Hmmm i dont know mate , the other day i was looking at some sony lenses that cost more than my car ..... seriously , i would say neither is on the cheap side for their quality lenses .
it is ok for the camera to be a little cheaper , but the extra`s are just killer .
@@mikldude9376oh yes... when you figure in the cost of actually using it.... beyond my price range. There is always something better coming. I've learned to use what I have and learn how to use it. The G9 is what I use and will be using until it stops.
Reminds me of the Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema 4K camera. Amazing price with Resolve included. But outfit it and that is where things go up and up.
I recently switched from d750 to a7iii I love it
If you're not suing the V-Log or S-Log settings, what's the point?? Running these cameras in Auto mode is a waste of a comparison.
10:59 - You should activate [Sunny Weather Mode] on the A7iii to show people how much more brighter the screen can be.
How you are recording your audio your audio is awesome
A7III is so dope 🔥
I also prefer the sony but,
Why do all youtubers believe that everyone is looking for a camera to be able to record themselves?
Well since I started the video off saying it was for those people then maybe other videos?
Nice comparison, Everyday Dad, but obviously this was highly video-centric, rather than photo-centric, because I would have liked to know about things like STILLS image sharpness, dynamic range, lens comparisons, etc. As I know nothing about the S1 format lenses, but a lot about the high-quality Zeiss and GMaster Sony lenses, I would be interested in knowing which lens/sensor combination would give the best detail/sharpness for a given focal length. Thanks!
"more like a full-frame G9" THANK YOU! Goodness gracious
Yep that’s almost exactly what it is (which is not a bad thing)
I own a G9 and love it (which is hardly a strong enough way to say that) but almost every review is like "they've obviously copied the style of Nikon here" or "full-frame GH5" and I'm over here like "the G9 is a camera too..."
You get a whole lot more camera-per-dollar with the Sony
Panasonic video shows you the proper way to use focus on s1. I don't think you properly set the focusing up correctly.
You are correct. There is an AF customization menu in the S1 just like in the upper end Canon dslrs because the default setting doesn't work for all scenarios. I'll bet most of the complaints about the S1's autofocus is from incorrect setting.
Ok, if it’s setup incorrectly out of the box than that’s a ding in and of itself 🤷♂️
Get the S1. Grown men complaining about the weight of a camera and a lens is... sad. Chelsea Northrup, Evelyn from CameraTV, women reviewers on TH-cam are using DSLRs like the 1D mark II, D5, or reviewing the new Fuji GFX100 or Pana's S1/S1R without complaining. If you want a flippy screen, the Pana S1H is coming in the fall. The S1 is simply the best FF mirrorless hybrid on the market. The A7III doesn't even compare. Weather-sealing, 5.6 mil EVF, 400K shutter cycle, 4K 10bit 4:2:0 HLG and soon 10bit 4:2:2 internal with the free VLOG update, doesn't overheat, doesn't feel like a toy, menu system isn't a mess, free 3-year warranty, and now $400 off trade-in rebate until June 22nd... The S1 is getting the exact same video features as the GH5 for free.
Hey dude, I'm a big fan of your videos... I think the Sony A7 III is a better value plus it is smaller and lighter.
Smaller and lighter doesn't translate to a bigger, better value. Real men have the properly sized equipment.
For run and gun people, the a7iii hybrid AF is going to be a life saver. For more professional video workers, the s1 is the way to go. BUT... can't ignore those cheap and great Tamron lenses.....
I'm looking to buy a S1 in 2022. Is there more lens selection with better prices? And did the software updates fix some of the focusing issues?
Sony a7iii seems to expose brighter than the s1
If the a7iii had 10 bit out I would consider it, but as it doesn't it's not an option for me. S1 for the win
The color out of S1 is much more pleasing, more vibrant, and more punchy than that of A73..
But for purely VDO and Vlog work, considering size/price/feature/ecosystem, GH5 may be better than those two, even in 2019..
Thanks for excellent comparisons..
I agree, between the s1 and the GH5 I would wholeheartedly recommend the gh5.
Finally a good video about the S1!
iv'e snapped 2 hdmi to micro hdmi cables with the sony a7iii lol
Tell me about it, I hate the ports on the a7iii.
@@TheEverydayDad Is there anyway of like preventing the cables from bending?
Image quality of the S1 is noticeably better...easy to see.....
I’m a Sony fan now thanks to you ;)
I hope it does great things for you 😁👍
Its just me or 200mbit is pointless for 8 bit/24fps?? its roughly 90GB for 1 hour of footage and it probably grade like shit anyway
Great video! So tempting, but I'm broke. 😅
Tell me about it 🤣
I had the S1 for the weekend. It was just too heavy (for me). My fingers ached after customizing it. Very capable camera, but I sent it back.
It's all good on Sony, but i think skin colors are better than sony🤷🏻♂️
These are so gorgeous. I'm don't with APS-C especially APS-C without stabilization. These FFs are lightning years ahead. I'm done settling for expensive gear that doesn't deliver. Even my a6400 is awesome in daylight, but when you push the ISO or need stabilization due to low light, it fails.
You can use both in ASPC mode anyway. I have a Sigma 18-35 for just that.
I really prefer the colour in Panasonic
The Panasonic Lumix S1 looks amazing but a little pricey 😂 Also what editing software do you use? I'm trying to get started on TH-cam and don't know too much about it😂 I would love help and advice if possible. Thanks👍
Yeah the image quality is great but it’s a darn expensive camera.
@@TheEverydayDad which editing software do you use?
Isn't it amazing how close the Panasonic looks like the big Leica? Since Leica and Panasonic have been in collaboration for years. No surprise there. I will still take the Sony even with its mental interface and dipsy doodle body. The A7 mk.3 is telepathic in response. Astigmatism backgrounds I will never tolerate and Sony is spot tack sharp everytime. Panasonic adopts phase detect then Panasonic is my camera. Still the forgiven and holy covenant video camera the GH5. WTF! Same lame DFD, but the video in a GH5 is still it!
I will say after the newest firmware update the autofocus on my a7iii is crazy good. If it’s in zone autofocus I’ve yet to have an issue with it.
Please do a part 2 video of this test. Indoor and lowlight performance.
Please do a review of the Rode wireless go!! From your perspective but not professional audio worker's.
I will second that request, the RØDE wireless go looks like a great product. 👍🏻
The S1 absolutely crushes the Sony for video quality.
I would love to see a shootout between the Panasonic S1 and the new Sony a7s3 when it is released
FRANK R ICE COLD I don’t think the A7S3 would even come close to beating the S1H lol
No real mention of ergonomics comparison was a bit of a let down ... the Sony ergos suck, period. I was curious to hear how the S1 ergos (not necessarily just size) compareEverything else was on point.
What's actually better is the Z6 😂
s1 please!
422 10 bit? really, you already have the upgrade? ;)
I like the colors and feels of S1, but you look better on A7iii.
Why not comparing it to your Z6?
What about vs Fuji?
fuji can't focus video for shit. and shitty stabilization. terrible iso and mushy images
What's do you mean 8bit in 4k.
It means there is less information in the image to manipulate in post production.
The S1 can take the Voightlander full frame range.
Man if they would have just made a full frame gh5 /GH6 with 60 frames 10-bit internal it would have been a done deal for me I would have bought two of them
FRANK R ICE COLD S1H
Nice video. That Rode Wireless Go looks ridiculous though.
Yeah but it’s so darn easy to use 🎉
Umm do I see S1 vs Z6 in near future 😜
It depends, I have to give the s1 back here pretty soon so maybe not.
It looks like you recorded this and then redo it using a voice over studio mic.
Nope, it’s all the same audio, just b roll overtop of the a roll.
Noo low light test :( Thats what i was waiting
the sony video seems abit exposed
Check back on the s2
Panasonic footage is good.
Dude. Are you in Columbus, Ohio? Or did imagine that? LOL
I was for a few days 👍
Another great video. The gh5 it is. The new Panasonic full frame system is to new now to buy in for me and no more flip out screen and a recording limit now. Plus a high price tag, though they did do better than Olympus with their 3000 plus camera.
The gh5 is an absolutely fantastic camera, definitely worth getting 👍
the s1 record 420 and not 422 in 10 bit
I own the S1 and lemme tell you, its ability to handle 10bit 4k 30p and 60p HEAT....is superior to the A7-III. I strongly suspect that Sony's next generation A7S-III will NEED to be the size of the S1 in order to match it's 10bit color and 60p 4k sensor heat and image processing. In fact, I think the Lumix S1 "IS" the A7S-III that we were all waiting for.
That’s true, I doubt Sony would be able to keep their current body design and increase the recording capabilities without either a bigger body or radically new sensor design.
A7SIII was rumored to be release late last year but had heat issue. I think they will need a new body or severely limit 4K60 to a couple minutes to avoid those heat issue. I suspect a bigger size but not S1 size.
@@Atemoya26 - Let's all face it. With a Sony BSI sensor, 10bit color, 6k to 4k full pixel readout in 30p, 4k 60p in super 35mm. (like most 4k cinema cameras)....and!....with 4k raw over a full sized HDMI that I "know" is coming to the S1 later this year.... THIS "IS" THE "A7S-III" THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR!!!
@@clifftotten7609 You don't have to convince me. I pre-order one. Cost about the same as A7III after selling the pre-order special.
I don't shoot video but the features are very nice and I will use it for vacation.
I think S1 might be the best camera I've own and it's only camera I left Canon after being with them for 10 years. I tried EOS R, A7RIII, A9, A7III as well.
It's pretty much everything I hope Canon EOS R to be but didn't. At $2250 with free battery and grip, it's a steal
If they keep it at 12mp you can expect even more ridiculous low light performance . Rumors also have it that it will have global shutter.
Why do people make such an emphasis in auto focus? Id like to see you do a cinematic comparison for film not just fkr vlogging. Cuz "filmmakers" use manual...we hate auto focus. If you make a judgement based off auto focus id be questioning your skills with a camera as auto focus doesnt take skill at all. The Sony IBS sucked hardcore yet youd choose that over a Lumix? All because of auto focus? Lame lol The image overall was much more appealing in the Lumix. Color and overall more a film look. Yall who keep making these videos i challenge you to see which camera is more cinematic. A cameras auto focus will suck if the cintrast isnt there. Maual you have more control. I like Sony but Lumix is so much better.
why any small aps-c with IBIS from panasonic !! :D m43 is too small to portrait etc :P but FF has BIG bodies and lenses :(
And second question the a7III can make it up to 4:2:2 10b 4K with 30fps?
not at all, not even with external recorders, not even in 1080p, nothing in 10bit.
I'm a big sandwich thanks