Helluva Boss: Sinsmas Blew EVERYBODY Away
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“Maybe I just don’t like teenagers and all of you should be pretty damn happy about that, considering how many TH-camrs like them a little too much.” I died laughing 😂
Frr 😭
its true though. one of my youtubers was recently outted as being a predator and the first thing on the article was "no minors were involved". fuck anything else, gotta get out he wasnt after kids first.
😂😂😂
Iskall?
Oof! And what probably makes things even worse is that a large portion of social media/YT is made up of kids/teens... 0_0
Shows why Internet safety is extremely important to teach kids and teens!
I like the image of Danny getting on the plane and just getting some kind of sixth/spider sense about a new episode
Imange the moment it posted he said something just happened
He leaves a looney tunes ass Danny shaped hole in the side of the wall as he fuckin FLIES through the hull
@Alastortheradiodeamon “I feel a great disturbance in the TH-cam algorithm”
the alarm in his head just goes off whenever there's a new episode
He just goes: huh for some reason I have a strange urge to watch TH-cam and yell at a short woman
I liked that they hugged instead of kissed in the end. They need to talk, but at the moment Stolas needs just someone loving and caring and is not ready for any kind of talk at the moment.
Stolas didn't hug him back... I think there is more drama to unpack
A hug in that moment meant SO much more than just being a kiss, it shows more connection of love and attention than just being a kiss.
@szofian9671 He's grieving, he couldn't emotionally reciprocate at the moment. Blitzø knows that
@@szofian9671i think it was more of stolas just receiving the comfort blitz was giving him
id argue (respectfully) not. because stolas is in so much mental anguish with his daughter being gone that he doesnt have the mental energy to hug him back. he is just kinda disassociating so blitz is almost grounding him. its part of why i think blitz hugged him instead of potentially kissing. because he just needs a hug not anything more.
"Why are the necklines in Hell so big!?"
Because they're demons and have to get their massive horns and heads through 😂😂 this has got to be one of my favorite episodes
“When she was crying she making a weird squeaky sound.” You mean the hooting? You mean how Octavia, an owl, was making sad owl noises?
The owl noises for both her and stolas and all the horses for blitzø are the favorite details for the whole show!
Lmfao thank you I was saying that out loud
Fake hooty fan.
Who?
@@8thMaestreowho
I think its kinda awesome that Bliz actually got to "hire" Stolas like he said he might in their childhood.
Holy shit
Omg I didn't think of that 😭
helluva is full of insane foreshadowing. i can only imagine what else has been foreshadowed that’s gone right over our heads
oh my gosh i didnt clock that ty for bringing it to my attention lol. this episode referenced so many of the earliest ones, I loved it!
Oh. My. God. I just realized that.
Important to note Octavia never “got over” her fear of Stolas leaving, she just kept getting told it was never going to happen, and then it did
THIS! Yes her character can be viewed as annoyingly repetitive BUT everything she was afraid of DID happen. She was technically right.
I think I officially got enough likes on this comment to be one of the”those fans” danny talks about that yells at him 😂
If you think about it, Stolas doesn't have the power to return to her now. But she has the power and possibility to choose NOT lose Stolas if she doesn't want to. She is almost an adult and she is Chosing to abandon him, you know... Just when Stolas need a hand, after all he lose everything for doing the right thing.
@@itslexi_
Child of divorce here, those repetitive thoughts and feelings are a real thing. It’s a cycle that takes a long time to get out of.
@@itslexi_
I don't even think it's fair to call her annoying or repetitive, honestly. Reserve that for the way Stolas treats her like an afterthought
i can see moxie being afraid of becominng a father because of how his father treated him.
I feel like he'd have the opposite reaction. Hed probably be over the room excited. He strives to be the opposite of his father personality wise
While I do think Moxxie would love being a dad, I can totally see how being a dad could potentially be nerve wracking and anxiety enducing for him as well.
As someone who had dealt with growing up with an abusive father in my life.....I very much have that fear of "What if I become a terrible father like my father?" Often people who have been through Childhood Abuse and Trauma like that fear that they will repeat the cycle themselves as adults, and therefore avoid becoming parents, or tend to find a lot of anxiety in becoming a parent: especially if it isn't planned.
Tom deserves a fucking raise. I swear. I love that he 2x speed that rant. Immaculate. He didn’t skip it, knew it was important. Didn’t leave it in, was out of time probably. Love it.
I was laughing my ass of at it. He sounded like a mad chipmunk
He's not wrong
I had the same rant 😭
@@mariaandino2309 I LOVED THAT PART SO MUCH LMAO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE
@@mariaandino2309 I LOVED THAT PART SO MUCH LMAO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE
@@mariaandino2309 Tom needs a damn raise and bonus… and maybe see his family and be released from the editors basement he’s in…
16:02 Yes it does Danny. My mom almost punched my dad over a single fry when she was pregnant with me
Why was she beefing with him over a fry?? 😭
I don't know why I read this as she almost punched you instead, my brain completely didn't see the word dad
Working in the fast food industry, you have no idea how many pregnant women have screamed at me.
@xenon3521 the lady was hungry. Don’t mess with a girl’s food.
Was it at least a good fry? Where'd it come from? Was it really salty? Long? Fried perfectly? Did it taste good??? GIVE ME THIS LORE!
You are literally the first male commentator who clocked Millie's pregnancy immediately. I've watched half a dozen or so other commentaries with male-presenting commentators, all of whom were taken by surprise when the test was revealed. Thank you for having situational awareness of media tropes. Also, the joke about the COVID-test made me laugh out loud.
maybe im dumb or oblivious, but i didn't even notice until she pulled out the test 😭😭
Honestly, i really should hace caught it. But pregnancy was so far from my thoughts, i hadnt even clocked it.
I noticed the same pattern happening until Mosco broke the combo for the ladies.
Sorta stupid’s reaction figures it out early too. Well, Shaun does. The other two just kinda roll with it.
I noticed a few who were like hmmm but they didn't call it though I think a few did particularly after the mood swings but yeah media uses that way to often lol
My guess is Millie's hesitation isn't any of those 3 you mentioned.
It might be that she LOOOOVES her job. Which is why she snapped when Moxxie said not to do it. And shes worried that she wont be able to do the job, first while pregnant, and then while being the mother of a young child.
Bro it's so sad that Octavia sees Blitzø as someone who took her dad away and part of her hate. But Blitzø sees Octavia as a part of the family that he wants I can't take this man 😭🙏🏾
I'm looking forward to more scenes between them!!
I swear to god, until Octavia pulls her shit together and has a normal conversation with stolas and or blitzø I will forever hate her
@@Woax-Taidshe is a teenager whose grown up with an abusive mother and whose only positive influence in her life (her dad) has from her POV abandoned her. I'd like to see you act perfectly rational in her shoes (spoiler: you wouldn't). Stolas has never taken the time to sit her down and talk to her and explain why he's doing any of the things he's doing, to help her, a child that has only ever known her toxic family relationship, understand why he's doing what needs to be done for his mental health. Octavia and Stolas both have their faults here, but Stolas is the parent, she is still a child, and it's on him to make sure she's okay and is able to understand and process what is going on in her life in a healthy way. And he's failed her on that. Stella has also failed on that account, but Stella doesn't actually care about her daughter.
@@mjdragonmaster6559 I’m not going to get pulled into an argument about fictional characters when all I’m trying to do is express how I feel
@@Woax-Taid that's fine, I wasn't really trying to start an argument. But you don't need to reply to me saying that. It's a comment section, if you say your feelings online, other people are allowed to respond with their own feelings and criticisms. I'd recommend just ignoring the responses in the future for the most part if you don't want a discussion about it.
23:46 “ oh damn it was was completely off, she just has covid!”
THAT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD-
I keep making corrections to my comment that’s why it’s edited :3
Dude same
She is
29:20
The way he got it so fast 🤣🤣🤣
Dude it would be way too far for this show to go into abortion I think. I'm pro choice and all that but I wouldn't have a TV show touch on that
Isn't it odd how we never see Octavia have an actual conversation with Stella? I feel like we're lacking the context of how Octavia actually feels about her mother.
I've been thinking this for years. It's frustrating.
She doesn’t talk to her imo
I’d love if they did talk tbh. However, I wonder if Oktavia’s just… given up on having a relationship with Stella long ago. It’s probably why she’s so hung up on Stolas lying to or abandoning her - he’s been the reliable, stable parent between the duo. Stella seems pretty ambivalent towards Oktavia otherwise, the way she talked about having her.
Watching her sit there looking miserable as her mom and uncle laugh like fools over Stolas trying to contact her seems to say plenty about how she feels towards her mom, at least to me. A child and parent not interacting at all says just as much about their relationship as them screaming and fighting constantly or having proper conversations.
I think it's worth noting that, when Stella is cracking up about Stolas' call early in the episode, she says "He thinks he's going to talk to his daughter!" Note: "HIS daughter", not "my daughter" or even "our daughter." I think Stella only regards Octavia as a way to further hurt Stolas and doesn't care about her at all beyond that.
My initial thought with Millie was termination especially after she came back and was like 'you know I love you right' to Mox, makes me feel like she's gonna do it and not tell him.
You call yourself a Demon Owl lover, and you can't recognize Octavia is crying in sad hoots!
Hooty would be shocked!
It’s almost as bad as Octavia not being able to recognize Stella is the worst creature in hell
@@ChuckFinelyForever She probably does recognize that, but from her perspective it's choosing the lesser of two evils by staying with Stella
@@mrult28exactly as someone with parents who have both made mistakes including stepparents, this is understandable.
he didn’t show it, but when Danny said “yeah blitzø you always know just what to say”….the thing Blitzø cooked up and ate was hot rocks 🥺🥺. He cooked up some rocks so they’d be hot and eats them. That’s why he curled up in Stolas’ lap 😭😭. He turned himself into a heating pack 😭😭😭😭
I DIDN’T REALIZE THIS OMG
WAIT THATS SO CUTE 😭😭😭
WAIT, WHAT... OH MY GOD, IM GONNA CRY...
He probably does that for Loona when she's on her period
Oh. I thought he was just high as fuck
honestly, as a female, i think millie's reaction was very normal, you dont need a specific reason to be anxious abt being pregnant, especially if its the first time. I remember when my best friend found out she was pregnant, even though she and her husband wanted it and were trying for a while, she was SO SCARED and TERRIFIED, she immediately called me and started panicking. Some days later she told her husband and now they are a happy family. So yeah, millie's reaction is not that surprising imo
Completely agree. I can't wait to start trying and have a family but being pregnant is still scary- it can still kill a person even with today's medicine and technology advances. A wanted pregnancy is still scary!
Exactly
Right I saw some people judging and being like 'Why she's crying' like are you serious???
Especially if you're in the US. Like, have you seen the hospital bills for childbirth alone? I desperately need to believe Hell doesn't have a less predatory healthcare system than the US.
I just think it's odd Danny didn't say the most obvious reason Millie could be worried outside of the natural inital fear, that being Millie and Moxie are hitmen and their lives are in constant danger. I feel like that'd be one of the more reasonable worries for Millie to have comapred to the suggested ones.
I think the episode ending with blitz hugging Stolas shows some growth on both of their parts and sums up their relationship turning a bit more healthy. They don’t constantly have to do things in an exaggerated/sexual way (I’m counting making out as part of that group) and now can use something simple like a hug to show affection
17:01 Danny: Fight him Stolas. Kick his ass
1 second later
Danny: oh my god I didn’t think he’d do it
Funnily enough, I was watching it with my friend paused it said “Fck him up!” Then he actually did it lol
that whole fight sequence was so awesome. I loved when Andrealphus turned into a whole ice dragon
Stolas: Alright, bet.
I was laughing the moment he said that
😂😂😂
The smoke when he says the horse story is traumatic is a call back to the circus burning down and it hitting the hell horses
But that wouldn’t be the origins of him liking horses, Fizz knew about his obsession so it started when he was younger. I think that was just a joke about Brandon Rodger’s real life phobia of “really large things” he said that it’s usually fantasy creatures like dragons that do it for him but for some reason horses also trigger him. The real reason that Blitzø loves horses is because Viv thought it would be a funny juxtaposition.
@@Cangeltibon Horses are kinda scary till you meet them lol and they always surprise me how big they are but a few hours with them I was no longer scared wary of course they are big and can hurt you by accident but not scared
@Cangeltibon I know that a lot, but in the show itself he has a traumatic story to why he loves them when everyone knows full well that it's just because viv thought it would be funny to do that to brandon rogers
my guess was like he was so bad at making them he hyper focused on it and became obsessed
@Cangeltibon would that be like, megalophobia or something?
When Moxxie said "The prince's knight needs his sword" the prince is stolas, his knight being blitzø, who needed a sword, that Moxxie delivered.
I had the same confusion at first
It's also a callback to S1E2 LooLoo land when Stolas says "Where's Blitzy, he's my knight in shining armour"
Oh. I thought it was an innuendo for when he and blitz got hit with the truth gas
still a bit gay though ;p
this line gave me second hand embarrassment i'm ngl
@@Mi..Mi..how?
Hey Danny, I just wanted to say thank you for being you, and thank you for having a channel. Your comedy and analysis really help me keep goin. It's been rough, but it's been an oasis sanctuary to just come here and watch all of your different series, so truly, thank you.
14:24 Y'know what I just fucking realised? If Stolas has a big stock of his happy pills, that means it's a recent stock. Remember, he ran out of meds in Full Moon (and a lot of people used that to defend him afterwards). He must have gone insane and stocked up like crazy because he was scared of feeling as emotionally wrecked as he did in Full Moon.
I thought they were empty bottles
@@maryamtara2934 Oh my God, if so that's so much worse bc he took a lot of these for it to finish so quickly like that
@@maryamtara2934 Ooh OK that might be an even more tragic reality.
The only thing that I think contradicts this is that I'm pretty sure the bottle Octavia gives to Stolas is the same one she took from the box. Unless she actually went and bought him a new bottle. But if they are empty, that's even more devastating.
@CamacanMMCYou hear the rattle of the pills as she picks up the bottle, so I think they are implicitly all full
@CamacanMMC there was the box and there was the one that had the pills inside that she took was sit aside
fun fact, Owls are one of the birds that can tell when other mammals are pregnant, which is one of the reasons why Stolas looks so terrified after seeing moxxie and millie play fighting
Omg that's right.
@onyxstorms8571 I never knew that about owls,that is an intresting fact
Can you share your source on that? Only things that come up on Google are about reproduction habits of owls... and threads asking if they're bad omens or not...
that sounds like total bullshit i figured stolas was just having a culture clash moment and was horrified / confused as to why they were fighting given his own marriage, not understanding theyre just play fighting
@@NinjaInConverse Back when i was in school, my teacher had an obsession with owls, this was also during the whole dissecting owl pellets phase of school
I think the reason Octavia is so closely tied around Stolas is because not only does her life revolve a lot more of Stolas but also she also her character is also tied to Stolas. He did infact stay miserable because her wanted her to have a normal life, but she lashes out at different things.
Loo Loo Land: She has a conversation about her dad disappearing and leaving her behind where she won't find him so Stolas can be with Blitzø, so she's learning to accept her dad is now dating a new person but it won't change her relationship.
Seeing Stars: She has an important day and Stolas is so busy with Stellla and the divorce that he forgets said important day. She talks to Loona about it but it's about dad's making smaller mistakes.
Sinsmas: This argument has many different argument points. Octavia's anger and sadness at how she won't see her dad for 100 years. She sings about how she will indeed be okay just not at that current moment, she'll learn to be okay without Stolas. She finds the pills and that gives her multiple thoughts. Has he been miserable this whole time. Have the pictures and the days they spent together smiling and happy were her new bonding moments been fake, has he been creating a smile and to hide it. When Stolas denies this and calls her the only good thing in her life she quite literally hurts. It feels like that person is harming themselves because they wanted to stay there, which is the reason Stolas stayed up in the marriage as he said to Stella so as much as it felt wrong it wasn't like he didn't say it himself. So she isn't sure what he's saying is real or as a way to make her feel better. A "lie" couldn't be told from the truth because so far she hasn't been shown what is a lie and a truth, the memories she shared could be fake/a lie because his real feelings in her eyes are unknown. Was he using the pills because of him. Was him running to save Blitzø without hesitation because of how miserable he was and he didn't care what happened because of his current life. Everything is all unknown because she didn't notice Stolas' intake of the happy pills.
Also someone in the fandom has pointed out that because Octavia has no outside friends, or a different maternal figure she doesn't know what a mom is meant to be like and not only that she wears earphones and listens to music to block out everything.
When Stella is throwing things and yelling in S1E2 she is wearing headphones to block out the sound. When Stella is calling Striker she's wearing headphones and listening to them on full blast. She walks around the palace listening to music and it blocks out a lot. Most of the time she's upset she listens to music. Probably to express her emotions and inner thoughts.
She is more likely to have a more independent arc without Stolas now because she cut him out. What that arc will be maybe friends, a social life, a life around Stella or her cooling down.
also, where I agree with Danny. if they gave her more words to express her side. they could have explained it better in the episode
This is exactly what I've been thinking, but actually well-organized and coherent
Feel a bit like some people forget Stolas threw away Octavia (albeit unwillingly)
...because of Blitzø, thinking of him first and her second
(Actually been talking to myself a bit about how Octavia's life is basically just collateral to Stolas's love life)
I mean, I do get it. Both Stolas and herself have an unhealthy attachment to each other that goes a bit skewed on the love part, if not necessarily too far (they are father/daughter). The problem is that Octavia keeps seeing and receiving confirmation that, yes, Stolas is not perfect, but he deeply cares about her and is doing his best. She also keeps seeing her mother and their family constantly abuse Stolas, and yet has shown zero empathy towards him, tending to either avoid, ignore or even be personally offended by the very topic of her father being emotionally tortured for decades. For someone who cares about her father, has seen him being abused and has now seen him loosing everything and then finding out he was already at antidepressants, she again makes it all about herself. Even for a teenager, even for a teenager that doesn't get she has also been abused by her mother, that is a remarkable and nearly unredeemable lack of empathy and self-centeredness. Octavia has her mother's general attitude and values while having her father's temperament and emotional stability, to me at least, showing she has the less impressive and stable parts of both. Her feelings are understandable, her inability to empathise with anyone but herself at all makes her essentially a bad person, she's old enough to be a bit more accountable than that at a very basic level at least, at the very least to the one person who has shown her love and affection.
Whole ass essays
@Content_BoiYes and great on at that. It's called a discursive essay, great for essay topics at school.
I usually don’t read Danny’s comments, I just trust him when he says his comment section is a violent torrent of people demanding he reacts to things, but I’m reading the right now and DAMN HE WASNT JOKING LMAO
16:07 it does, Danny. It's called mood swings.
Good on you for checking to make sure though lol
I was literally about to write this exact comment word for word
@yourlastbriancell lol I beat you to it 🙃
I thought it was a joke 😅
It was a joke
@@snorlax4385 was it? He seemed genuinely confused-
“ the way absol is hot💀, no I mean the way spirit is hot🐴, “ got me rolling on the floor😂😂
Bro turned into Blitz for a second lol
same lmao
Same 😂😂😂
@@crystalepiceno9671absol isn’t a horse
@@Lime_Sherbert yeah, I was referring to him talking about Spirit lol
"You got what you wanted (sorta), but lost what you had." I think that kinda is a decent theme for this episode.
very well said :)
is that a princess and the frog reference i smell?
I agree on the Octavia stuff in regards to her being a more fleshed-out character, because I would love to see her interactions with Stella and Blitzø. But I also really understand where she’s coming from. Stolas, while very loving, has repeatedly let her down. You have to remember that as a kid, so much of your life is wrapped up in your parents’, esp when you’re still living at home. She’s already going through a difficult period of life (puberty), which is then worsened by her rapidly declining home life. In the LooLooLand ep, her father cheated on her mother and was literally woken up by them screaming at each other (and this right after her dream of when times were better), which was followed by her father spending much of their time together at a place HE suggested they go that she doesn’t even like anymore (demonstrating the fact that they’ve been growing distant from each other for a while) flirting with the homewrecker. In Seeing the Stars he forgets one of the things she’s been looking forward to doing together for YEARS because he’s too wrapped up in the divorce and fighting with Stella (“why does he hate her more than he loves me?”). The arc of both these eps is them having a convo about how, while things are changing in their lives and can’t be the way that they used to be, Stolas will always be there for her. And this ep? She realizes Stolas gave his life for Blitzø and now won’t be seeing her for another 100 years. One of the lines in her song is smth like “I’ll grow from this and just be someone you don’t know anymore”, which I think gets down to the crux of her issues. She misses her father constantly, even when he’s trying to be present, but from the outside he’s choosing to miss out on some of the most formative years of her life. She is growing and changing and he doesn’t notice; her home life is falling apart and he only seems to care when she reaches a breaking point. She wants so desperately to connect with him, and yet he is so often just unavailable. And now he’s chosen someone else over her, reinforcing the fact that she wasn’t his top priority, and she now has to face the reality that she isn’t going to have much of a relationship with her father at all. She’s going to grow up into someone he doesn’t even know.
It’s honestly very relatable, and it’s made all the more tragic because we know she’s not getting the full story and is being manipulated by her mother and uncle. All while Stolas wants nothing more than to connect and spend time with her, he’s just also going through a very difficult period in his life and doesn’t know how to work out a balance. IMO her feelings are very valid, because while Stolas SAYS that he’ll try harder, we never really see him put in the effort to do so, and now he’s gone from her life seemingly of his own choice. And the thing about this kind of arc is that it’s repetitive for a reason. Octavia never gets over this fear that Stolas doesn’t really care or will leave her, because he never fully commits to making her understand that she’s his top priority. So it’s a recurring fear for her, because shit keeps happening with no real resolution, until he finally makes the decision that she’s been dreading since the very beginning. And as the audience WE know that Stolas loves her more than anything, but is being pulled in so many directions at once that he’s just being left a bit all over the place. But he never talks to Octavia about any of that. She doesn’t understand why things are happening the way they are, just that her father is unhappy and increasingly distant.
I do agree with Danny that she should get more characterization, esp when it comes to Stella, bc their relationship should also be a huge factor in all of this. What we’ve seen from them so far is very surface level and I’d like to understand their relationship more. However, Octavia doesn’t really serve any other purpose within the show. She’s there to be Stolas’ daughter, to illustrate that he’s always had smth to lose. With that in mind, I think she’s a very realistically written character given her circumstances
I LOVED the little owl weep they gave her last episode. Like when Stolas gets shocked, he also has those owl/chirp sounds. LOVE those too
The way I interpreted Millie being anxious about being pregnant is that she’s worried she won’t be able to be an assassin anymore, like she’ll feel pressured to be a stay at home mom rather than follow her career or even if she can balance it with her job she won’t be able to do the same stuff she used to be able to because of the time and effort it takes to raise a kid. Maybe the episode where she admits she’s pregnant could lean into the household division of labor and have her and Moxxie figure out how to balance their careers, being parents, and still having their own lives. Even if it’s just the B plot of an episode I think that’d be great to talk about since this whole show is about relationships and how to work through them
I don't get why people think there has to be a specific reason why Millie is scared about her pregnancy. Being scared is a perfectly normal response, even to a pregnancy you were trying for. For one you didn't prepare for it's terrifying. I think it's always been on their minds, otherwise they'd have used protection, but the difference between a hypothetical and the reality is a deep gulf and of course Millie is frightened and unsure.
And ever since I had a certain conversation with my mom over me hypothetically getting a baby, I’ve also added “financial security” as a question to Why or Why Not Baby. Can Moxxie and Millie afford it and themselves and an okay social life?
i had similar thoughts, i think it would be an interesting angle on Millie's character for her to be worried about something as grounded in reality as "pregnancy/birth will be a burden on my body and i wont be the assassin i am" like those ballerinas in intense training and performing who take pregnancy incredibly seriously for that exact reason
If one of them has to stay and take care of the kid, Moxie seems way more likely to do so (aside from the feeding, but there are ways...).
Imo if anything, Moxxie would be the stay at home parent, but they both need to work to make ends meet. Having a kid would be hard on them right now, especially because their job is so dangerous.
Anyone else think that the dream Octavia had as a child was a prophecy of her dad leaving? Like that would explain why she kept doubting her father because it is her secret power. The ability to see the future in her dreams. That line "I was right to doubt you" could be her trusting her power and in the time skip she could be this big powerful queen that sees the future.
I mean when Paimon gave Stolas the grimoire as a child, part of studying it was to study prophecies. We only just now got a glimpse into how powerful she actually is, even powerful enough to push Andrealphus back after destroying his monster. It could just be she caught him by surprise, but if I remember correctly, he is only a marquis while Octavia is a princess, which means she has a higher status than he does and, perhaps, also higher power level.
Of course, that’s just speculation. We know Stolas lost his powers, but I don’t think Andrealphus got it. I think he only got the material possessions like his home and legions. Regardless, Octavia is still pretty young and isn’t fully trained yet in using her powers. But addressing the main point, it could be that seeing into the future is a gift she has always had and she doesn’t know it.
Yes totally
14:34 . . Danny. Danny. Hay Danny. . . She doesn't have a home! She just got into hell! 🤣
13:43 she says “I’ll be okay” as a callback to Stolas’ lullaby to her in a previous episode where he says “when I’m gone you’ll be okay” at least I’m pretty sure it is
100%
Yep! The start to episode 2 of season 1. I loved the call back. =]
It’s me harder than a freight train going mach 7
Me too! That’s what I was gonna comment too! :D
It is and Sam Haft wrote them at the same time
You know what I really think the Octavia situation needs? Her to have an on screen interaction with Blitz that lasts more than a minute. Nothing Stolas can say will change her mind anymore and I understand that as someone who has been IN her situation. Once you have an opinion on someone, especially someone you love, it's hard to budge from it. Her real issue stems from her not knowing Blitz as well as shutting out Stella's abuse as she probably doesn't want to accept someone she loves is causing harm to the other. I do think she needs to interact with Stella more so we can properly gauge their relationship, but that's a little bit harder since they are both not main characters. There's a lot that goes into this- but the short of it is she needs to hear from Blitz that he... genuinely wants to be part of her life (even though he's expressed this to her like 0 times). She and Blitz need to *meet* and we're just not getting that.
Seconded! I understand she doesn't have a good relationship with her mom, for instance, but we're never actually shown what Stella thinks of Octavia (beyond "hahaha pawn") or what Octavia thinks of Stella beyond "sulky teen". I genuinely don't think Octavia has said a word to her mother once? And it's hard to fully parse where things lie there.
She interacted with /witnessed Blitz in the second episode but really didn't interact much at all and was too busy with her own worries and being horrified at her father to actually learn about the man he likes spending time with.
We basically need a "What was missing from my Father and Mother's relationship and what has he found in Blitz?" Discovery
This is SO true
Maybe in one of the shorts, Vivize could delve into Via’s past and how she and Stella interacts.
I was hoping they'd have a longer interaction when she came by but then she didn't show up side by side with them, or some kind of... I dunno. "I think I know where -> of course he went to the palace to see you, why wouldn't he, etc etc yeah he lives with me but blah blah that trial was shit, (I dunno)
...
But it was just... the exchange on Stolas' whereabouts, then "a bad look!" "A very bad look." Which made me happy because it's almost a +1 for them
Both episode 11 and episode 12 gave me thoughts of "if these 2 characters could share just a couple seconds more of dialogue or interaction together". Last ep I wanted more Vassago & Stolas, even if it was just a "there you are" or _cántalo baby!_ *nods, grateful look, etc that's not just startled*
We didn't see Vassago vote on testimony vs execution, though we have an idea what he would pick
TL;DR I'm glad for them insult Andy together because it's like a +1 for them, I also wish they interacted on the way there, or she talked to him or appeared _with_ them for the fight (was she watching from the back?) ; and some Vassago & Stolas and Via pls
Loona would also be a good choice as well, to try and talk about eachothers dads(especially now that Loona is showing a lot more acceptance/love towards Blitz), as Octavia and Loona had a nice moment together already, Via might be a bit more open to talk about these things with her.
Viv said on bluesky (She quit twitter) that there is going to be a big break before season 3 which will run for 15 episodes. In that break more helluva shorts will release
I don't think he realized that,can't wait for the shorts to come back and throw him off guard XD
@@eeveefennecfoxhe’s gonna lose his shit 😂
I was so confused how long a "15 episode run" break is, until I realized you meant the season will have 15 episodes lmao
@@octaviablackthorn9 lmfaooo
There was a 9 month break between Season 1 and Season 2, so it will be at least that long, if not longer. She did also say that the break will be long, but the episodes will be released closer together. Considering it took 2.5 years to release all 12 episodes for S2, along with the Mammon special, the 4 shorts and the music video, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes over a year for S3 to start and then have the episodes release 1 month apart afterwards, with there being a mid season break like what happened with the last 3 episodes of S3. We will probably also get a good half dozen shorts in the mean time at least, I would imagine.
Viv is also doing a lot of work for Hazbin, considering she has to make 3 more seasons of that for Amazon, so I'm sure she is incredibly busy. It's best to not rush her and allow her the time needed to give us the masterpiece she wants to create.
Vivzie really told the animators “this is the finale, *blow the budget into the stratosphere.”*
Man I have been *waiting* for an Octavia solo. As a huge Heathers the Musical fan, I was *so* excited to see Barrett as part of the cast.
Stolas crying that he's broke is actually so real. I don't think people realize how relatable finding out you have no money is.
21:18 Octavia can't have a conversation, just like Stolas. He taught her that they both have the right to make decisions on relationships with other people, without considering the other person. Everything Stolas does, Via copies, because he is the only somewhat positive influence in her life. She has no friends, no support system, she's a lonely child in a cold desolate household and she is going through it
Exactly.
She's literally an isolated child whose only real emotional connection shattered. Lot of toxic takes about her.
I agree she definitely takes alot after Stolas but ppl need to stop babyfying her the same way they needed to stop babying Stolas, shes 17 and almost an adult, shes old enough to understand the situation more than she is, like placing all the blame on Stolas and only being mad at him when he was the one atleast making an effort, yet never once showing any ounce of hostility or resentment towards her mother is just downright stupid.
She even made the stupid one sided comment of 'Why does he hate her more than he loves me?' yet that applys to Stella too, but for some reason she never shows any resentment towards her mother one bit, its ALWAYS her lashing out at Stolas which dont get me wrong he deserves her resentment, Im just saying she should be consistent, shes not blind, her mother makes NO attempts to hide her much she doesnt care for her and didnt love her dad, but again the ONLY one she blames is Stolas which is stupid af.
@@RavenAveira She knows there's no point trying to get Stella's love, so she doesn't act out in the same way with her. Stella is a full blown narcissist, she doesn't care about *anyone* but herself and she never will. I think Via is just so desensitized to her mother's complete lack of empathy that it doesn't even register how awful she is or why Stolas would hate Stella so much that he can't prioritize Via over his new relationship. I don't think she likes her mom at all, so her mom not loving her isn't something worth being upset about. She loves Stolas, so it hurts that it feels like he doesn't love her too.
Or, we're not seeing how Stella is convincing Via she cares. Stella hates stolas, but when she thought he was about to die, she hugged Via. It wasn't genuine, but I assume that wasn't the only time Stella faked empathy to manipulate Via. We just don't see it on screen. She's probably telling Via she's not letting Stolas call her or see her in order to protect her.
@@RavenAveira Yeah, and that speaks to the bigger problem with the series as a whole that, despite framing her as someone important in Stolas' life, Octavia has not been fleshed out at all or gotten nearly enough screen time that her character desperately needs.
Octavia has every reason to be frustrated with her parents and act irrational and upset, but we as the audience have not had even remotely enough time with her to connect with her as a character with inner complexities and wants and needs in a way that will make a viewer instantly aware of her perspective and feelings in all of these situations.
Considering how useless Ozzie has been to the plot as a whole thanks to the trial scene (as much as I enjoy Vassago, Ozzie should've been the one to speak up not him), so much of the time wasted on him could've been spent on Octavia and letting us know more of her interiority and emotional turmoil over what's been happening with her family.
But that would require this show to care about its female characters enough to treat them with some ounce of dignity and interest, which is a seperate, but connected, and equally messy can of worms all on its own.
I think ppl are also forgetting that Stolas chose to sacrifice himself for Blitz (on tv), and if the execution pulled through, Octavia would've lost her father. I think it was that decision that ultimately made her think Stolas "chose" Blitz over her.
It's also hard to get what she's going through considering we know most of Stolas' perspective and not hers.
Also Stolas waited a month to actually see her. I know he called for a month, but that was simply stupid of him not to try to see his daughter in the flesh to explain himself. He should've gone to her immediately after the trial. Again...what people don't want to admit is that Stolas prioritizes his feelings over Octavia every time. He doesn't communicate with her.
@@dearestdarling2241He couldn't that was the rule he wasn't allowed to see his daughter even if he tried he would've been pushed out did no one watch master mind?!
@@dearestdarling2241 Stolas is banished! He's not allowed to be on the property of his former home. I seriously can't believe this fandom doesn't realize this and keeps using this against Stolas. Octavia on the other hand could've snuck out at any time to see her father but didn't. It's called initiative. She knew he was trying to call her and yet she did nothing.
Exactly. People in this fandom seem to have a very short-term memory and when they do remember things it's very selective.
Octavia has a right to be angry with her father. But the real worry is that soon she's going to become a legal adult and her uncle might try to kill her so he can keep her dad's stuff...
@@dearestdarling2241That's exactly it. I've been saying this from the beginning and it's been shown countless times. He was perfectly capable of getting off of his behind to go see her. He could have asked blitz to drive him to see her... He's been classist, condescending, and spineless as well as unable to take his head out of his rear end to stop being so self-absorbed.
And I think so many people in the standard relate to that bird, because they're just like him and that should tell you something.
I mean, it never occurred to people that starting a sex for service situation with someone might not be grounds for a great romantic relationship... Which even in the show was acknowledged not to be a relationship. And no one seems to register that. They baby Stolas too much
You hit 1M Danny (congrats btw), time to post that epic the musical reaction video lol
Danny finally won the Helluva Boss release schedule/vacation schedule Roulette
I absolutely love at 17:01 you could see the happiness slowly growing from Danny’s face when Stolas started punching Andrealphus! The funniest thing I’ve seen all day😂😂😂
Danny actually sounds a little like Blitz in that moment 😂
13:33 basically the embodiment of “I’ll be okay, I just need to be dramatic first”. Such a mood, Octavia
YES
Danny!! 🎉🎉🎉 congrats on 1 Million!!!
My read on Millie's reaction is that she upset their having the kid , NOW. She would love to have a kid with Max, but with IMP being in its own infancy and in all of hell's eyes, is now the BEST time for this baby
I totally agree, plus in the last few episodes it's definitely been expressed that they are super hard on cash. Like blitz spent all their money on horse plates while he was mourning his break up, and in that episode millie said that he hadn't paid them in months
Max 😭
She caught you off guard once again
YESSSSS!!!!! I KNEW THIS INTRO WOULD BE AMAZING!!!! Tears in my eyes, rolling on the couch, extended family judging me 😂😂😂
Viv can’t juke you 😂
I just watched all your Hazbin, Owl House, and Hellava Boss videos. That is like 13 hours of your voice. That is truly too much. Funny thing is, I found your channel today.
I've found people being too harsh on Octavia AND Stolas. Octavia has a good foundation to be mad because up until the cheating was revealed, she thought Stolas & Stella were fine. And then her home falls apart due to her dad having a random fling (per her POV - she doesnt even know they knew each other as kids). This isnt helped by the way he talked & acted horny to Blitz in front of her. Ultimately, Stolas still "broke" his promise that he would never leave her. And with the pills - she isnt wrong that he was being miserable for HER sake. Stolas said so too. And even though we all see it as a demonstration of Stolas' love, Octavia can easily feel guilty & lash out. Finally, yea Octavia isnt a baby but she's still a child - a teenager still is going through brain development.
And Stolas...we all know the story. But I think people are severly undermining the fact that Blitz was going to *DIE* in a kangaroo court THAT instant (not at a later time). I personally see it as Stolas exchanging his relationship with Via for Blitz's LIFE. Not just being with Blitz.
Ultimately its all a shitty situation, but I can still see Stolas, Blitz, & Octavia having good relationships & healing.
Edit for full transparency: My analysis isn't a counter argument to anything Danny said. I hadn't even gotten to that part. These are just my thoughts as a big fan of the show and based on other comments/reactions. Just wanted to get it off my chest lol ;)
I literally had this same thought about Octavia. Stolas didn't want her to know the truth behind his and Stella's marriage. He openly admits to Stella that he went through it all just for Octavia to have a normal life. So unfortunately to her it's still sudden, and neither of her parents actually sat down and talked to her about any of this. Stolas attempted to explain himself but never actually did. So as far as Octavia knows, her dad did go back on his promise. And I can say from experience that no matter how old you are, it's not something you can just get over, even with a real conversation about it. She still needs to process this information. And frankly? I can't imagine ANY kid taking "Oh we stayed together for you!" As a positive thing. My parents did that. And it actually made things harder. So unfortunately Danny kinda missed that one. But I understand why he missed it.
To be fair his criticism isn’t if he situation but of how her character is written
I think it's also important to note that ever since the fighting and initial affair, Octavia is seen almost exclusively blocking any vital information out by music. She didn't even hear the phone call where Stella was talking to Striker about killing Stolas. From her POV, it literally is just her dad cheated on her mom, and then threw away his family in exchange for the life of some asshole he was fucking. She has so little growth solely because she's coping by ignoring the details. So when a decision needs made on her part, she only has a two dimensional picture of what's going on.
As someone who grew up with severe emotional dysfunction, I coped much the same way, and any arguments I ended up in with family often turned out with me just as misguided and stalled as Via
@@sambostar1218 Additionally, in S1E2, Stolas *started* and wanted to explain to Via the whole situation with Stella & his affection for Blitz, but he ultimately stopped. Which is a GOOD thing as a parent because even though that wouldn't be his intention, he'd inadvertently be having Via carry the burden of the truth of his marriage. It's kind of like "What's going on between your mother and I had nothing to do with you."
Again, I understand that Stolas really messed up but I'm annoyed with people calling him a deadbeat (bro, look at his childhood - he is such a better dad than would've been expected) and Via is unfortunately not entirely wrong.
Edited for another point: As heartbreaking as it was to see Stolas sobbing (AMAZING VA work!), I was still happy Vivzie chose to emphasize this moment. He cried so much more DEEPLY at Via's rejection than when Blitz rejected him at the end of Full Moon. And he was more devastated after this crying session than after his & Blitz's break-up. So again, ppl acting as if he was the crappies dad ever is insane to me.
@@Jeewanu216 I keep thinking about her nightmare when she was a little kid about not finding him anywhere. And literally like 2 minutes later in the episode, she wakes up happy about the meteor shower & initially can't find him in the house. This show has set it up for events to severely play into her fears, even if Stolas didn't intend to.
The reason Octavia feels stagnant as a character is because, despite what Stolas says in scenes with her, he doesn't change and continuously puts her behind any and everything else (ignores her actual interests to take her to Loo Loo Land, ignores her at Loo Loo Land to flirt with Blitz, ignores his promise to see the meteor shower with her to argue with Stella, ignores his promise with her to never leave her and go to a place she can't follow to attempt to sacrifice his life in exchange for Blitz) so she is honestly at least a little validated in repeating herself about her issues with Stolas
every time i see a convo about Octavia I wanna add, that she, as much as Stolas preivously, lives in a contantly abusive environment which makes things much harder to think through. Stolas was trying to finish his divorce for yeeeeears or at least months as we see that. I feel like she’s also very stagnant because of that - she doesnt feel like she has a father, she can’t loose feeling of having a mother, so the brain ignores how awful her mom is to have at least somebody. cause its even harder to actually admit that you are mistaken and alone, and it doesnt get much easier when you’re teenager (comparing to child), it only gets a bit easier when you’re finally an adult. so i get, i absolutely get the annoyance of her being stagnant, cause i also have similar emotions towards the character arc she had so far, but i feel like the annoyance is what you should get from her right now. unlike her we know the whole situation. though i kinda agree on the idea that it might have been delivered a bit better, cause of the lack of subtle details. thouuuuugh on the other hand she’s not the first character we need to discuss as a fandom to truly understand her actions.
when i first saw Ozzies episode when Stolitz had their first date, i honestly was lost on why those two behaved that way. cause it’s something i barely ever experienced. but Octavia feels closer to me in all her “traumatized child who cant get over it and that annoys” (i might even suggest that it anniys Via too)
im a bit lost on what i think about Via’s arc plotwise. but i wanna see how it unwraps in the future. Also voluntarily throwing away a chance of contact with her dad is also a decision, and pretty big one i think. i dont think she chose that before. all the “go see the stars” episode she was trying to get to spend time with dad, but here she’s not trying anymore, she rejects, and that’s a big change. i dont feel like the specific things she was saying are as important as the big shift in her decisions.
last one: im also kinda annoyed by her not forgiving Stolas cause “we know he’s overall very good”, but as a daughter of f*cked up dad I think… me loving Stolas for who he is with Blitz and who he SOMETIMES is with Octavia cannot change the fact that Via’s point of view is different, cause unlike viewers she’s his daughter and lived together with him daily for years and she has a lot more to say on behalf of how “good” of a father he is overall.
(cause i can definite see lack of attention and connection, did he actually communicated with her daily or more like “occasionally” the way we see in Loo Loo Land ep? we saw him as good father, but good fathers are usually the people whom their daughters love, even if that starts in teenage years cause of abusive mum, for example. I dont think she’s tripping. So how “good” was their actual daily life?)
She feels stagnant because she doesn't undergo any growth that sticks. It doesn't matter how valid her problems are when she's not a real person. I don't have a ton of complaints about this show's writing, but her plotlines are pretty repetitive and one-note. Fingers crossed she gets more depth in s3, but the way she's written right now is gonna be frustrating for a lot of viewers. Especially, if you dislike teens on the best of days by default.
@@PennyxXxDreadful She keeps doing this because he keeps doing things that seem to her like he cares more about Blitz / hates Stella more than he loves her.
@@PennyxXxDreadfulI mean she does the same things because Stolas doesn’t develop as a character. He repeats the same mistakes and doesn’t learn from them. Oddly enough, the difference in this scenario is that Octavia decided not to forgive him, she’s changed while he hasn’t.
I saw some ppl hating on her
I have seen one too many people suggest that the reason Millie was panicking about the pregnancy was because she cheated on Moxxie. I'm convinced that everyone thinking that doesn't know a thing about first time pregnancies and don't know that freaking out and calling someone for help or advice is a pretty normal reaction, especially if its first time AND unplanned, which this probably was. It's actually kinda refreshing to see the people in this comment section actually give other very valid and possible reasons for Millie to panic over than immediately jumping to the conclusion that she cheated.
Only reason I have the inkling is because of how she acted towards the assassin target who cheated. But could be upset about noe being able 2
Are you sure so many people specified "cheating"? I've seen a lot of people myself suggest the child may not be Moxxie's, but most seem to imply (or outright state) she was raped, not that she cheated.
Either way, the writer certain does love in-your-face drama, but I don't know if they'd actually go that route or not.
@@irelynricketts8738 Dude, word! I'm sorry but I saw too many male reactors, specifically, automatically assume her being upset at the pregnancy = it's not Moxxie's. Like, pregnancy & raising a baby is a scary prospect by itself, especially as a 1st time mom. And hello, they are ASSASSINS? They could die at any point on the job. Or maybe Millie really loves her job and doesn't want to give it up?
Obviously I dont know every single man's reaction to her pregnancy but I'm just sitting here like...bruh, there's LOTS of reason she'd be upset/freaked out.
Oh snap Blitzøs the dad!! They were in the hotel!!
Joking I swear I'm joking!!
I would hate that if she cheated it would feel like a massive character assassination just for the sake of drama, and not even a new idea sense Blitz and Stolas already have a similar plot.
Chop chop reaction boy you’ve hit a million!!! Epic is next and I am so hyped!!!
Via's distrust in her father is valid. He DID forget about seeing the stars with her, he DID have Blitz come with them on a day that was supposed to be about the two of them. She's been very valid in her feelings this entire time and Stolas hasn't actually put the work in to show her otherwise.
This!! Via deals with an abusive mother and a distant father. Her lack of trust makes sense. Each time there is hope build back up it gets crushed back down which makes it harder for her each time.
It’s true. Just having unconditional love for her is not enough. As a father he should be a man of his word. Though, I still think Octavia would be much more understanding if she knew the big picture, and the fact Blitz risked his life for Stolas time and time again just to save him from Octavia’s MOTHER!!!!
He didnt forget abt seeing stars bc of Blitz lol he was busy arguing with Stella abt the divorce. The only valid here was the loo loo land ep and they literally talked about it there. Why have that conversation if we are gonna forget about it now?
@ not saying it was blitz fault but it’s just a reason she doesn’t trust Stolas. He promised he wouldn’t forget, and then he did because of Stella. But, she forgave him and trusted him again and again just for every time he let her down once again. He said Blitz wasn’t someone she needed to worry about. He also said he would never leave her. Then there he is risking his life for the imp he said not to worry about.
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again. Love is not enough. The Beatles lied.
You need action. Stolas is only words.
•He catcalls Blitzo on the phone right in front of Via, knowing full well that him having a sex partner is part of the reason she is so upset (also, it’s just outright inappropriate to dirty talk your sex partner in front of your child, especially if they’re under aged)
•He had Blitzo come with him and Via on their daddy-daughter day for ‘protection’ when it was more than obvious he didn’t need it (literally turned some guys into stone and was not at all worried when a couple of those assassins were literally on top of him, instead opting to throw a fit that Millie and Moxxie were the ones who saved him) just so he can continue to catcall him, still in front of Octavia, even though the whole day was meant to be just for him and her. And, again, part of the reason Via is so mad is because STOLAS IS SEEING BLITZO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
•Completely ignores Via because he’s too busy on the phone hurling petty insults at Stella to be bothered to actually listen to what Octavia is trying to say to him. And then he gets mad at Blitzo when she ran away????
•Goes to ‘look for’ Via in the human world and doesn’t actually look her, instead flirting with Blitzo on the set of a sitcom while Loona is doing all the work (he could’ve used his powers so easily to get him and Blitzo away from that human producer, which he should’ve done if he actually cared about finding Octavia)
•Told Octavia he would never leave her for Blitzo, he promised this very clearly… and he broke that promise.
•Waited a whole month until he decided to go to Andre’s place to get Octavia
Stolas is a shit dad, and Octavia was incredibly mature and level headed this episode for setting very fair boundaries with him.
Having been pregnant- absolutely we can be. I was a hormonal angry monster during two of mine. Swinging rapidly from sickly sweet love to rage to crying because I had no idea why I was angry
Sounds like early puberty in my experience. As far as I understand it's just the same thing but ramped up to 11, you're suddenly flooded with hormones and your brain doesn't know how to respond to that.
Same I was a walking zombie and my two emotions were anger and crying
@@trishapellisno. Nope. No. Maybe for the first few weeks but you start feeling it. Like the baby. Once it's like the size of a lemon I could feel her it freaked me out so much
@@trishapellis initially yes but once I hit like second trimester? I felt heavy- gravity was the enemy, my body hated me, was I angry over being a planet or because of the out of control hormones? Was it both!? Lmfao some people handle it so well though, beaming and beautiful, I love that for them
"She's so repetitive."
Danny, I would point out that Stolas is ALSO repeating the exact same patterns of behaviour throughout the whole show. The circumstances this time are mitigating as hell given that Blitzo's life was genuinely in danger, but Stolas DID basically validate her fears of being abandoned in favour of Blitzo way back in the Loo Loo Land episode.
Yeah, but it's been 3 episodes focused on her and the three of them are in the same conflict. I love her, she definitely needs to get character growth
Just from a writing standpoint, Stolas is one of the characters moving the plot along. Every time the show focuses on Octavia, it just kinda stops and spins its wheels to rehash the same thing. Both LooLoo Land and Seeing Stars, on their own, would be fine, but her part in them is made pointless in hindsight when the next time we see her it's the same thing all over again. It's doubly frustrating when the viewer knows the full context and that the entire conflict could probably be defused if they sat down and talked honestly for a few minutes. I love the show's writing for the most part, but Octavia is 100% a frustratingly repetitive character who hasn't gone through any growth. At least not any growth that doesn't get rolled back the very next time we see her.
Truthfully, you guys are ignoring the background context each time.
This time he couldn't come back because he didn't live there. This is the difference
It's one thing to come to turms with the fact he doesn't really like you mom and is seeing someone else to have your dad leave you completely for a full month
She dosen't get the full context with her mom blocking him from calling in the beginning everyone over looks a month passes between that moment and the rest.
If he was let to exspain earlier she wouldn't have backtracked but she was made to feel like he didn't care for a month
She sat there as her emotions grew souer @PennyxXxDreadful
@@The_Mem I was talking about the writing and her character as vehicle for the story not her rationale.
The context to each time isn't ever the same thing
Loloo land is more about stolas re bonding with her then it is about him leaving she brings it up sure but the episode is about them . Since he onky invited her there cause he thought she still loved it it was about him re bonding
The one in Hollywood is more about stolas being more mad at her mom to the point she over looks her. He tells her it wont happen again and thats the issue she has now.
In her eyes he lied and broke the promise he made last time.
The last times he still saw her everyday this time its been a month and it doesn't help stella is feeding her that he dosen't care + preventing him from seeing her smh guys
Its time for EPIC Danny! You PROMISED!
Yes danny, WE WERE BLOWN AWAY, I’M CRYING
We're all fucking crying😭😭😭
Me too
We all were bruh
The thing with Octavia is that every time she does work through her issues, he proves her fears right again. She’s scared he’ll leave her and that she’s an afterthought, and he’s continuously proven to her that that’s what she is to him. In the episode right before this finale, she literally sees him try to kill himself on live tv, not even thinking that he’d be leaving her. And obviously we know it’s for a noble reason, saving Blitzø, but to her it’s just him showing her he’s more important to Stolas than Octavia is. And this has happened before, like you said she’s “gotten over” these issues TWICE now, and I hate to say it, but the growth needed to be on Stolas as a father, and everytime they talk things through, she’s back to being a side character in his life. Clearly he’s centered on flirting with Blitzø and wallowing in the past in Loo Loo Land, and after that he forgets their big day watching the comets, and now there’s this. Octavia isn’t growing because her growth depends on being able to move forward with her relationship with her father, which isn’t happening because his behavior isn’t changing. Also, we see Helluva Boss through the eyes of whatever protagonist the episode follows, and because the closest character to Octavia is Stolas, and he doesn’t take the time to learn about her interests, we don’t learn about her interests. She’s a side character in Stolas’ life, just “the daughter” who he says he loves, and because that’s how we view her, through his eyes, she seems underdeveloped and annoying.
EDIT: Ty for all the support, I want it to be very clear that I’m not blaming Stolas for saving Blitø, obviously it was a time crunch and needed to happen right then, this is just what it looks like from Octavia’s perspective, and I also understand that this does leave Octavia undeveloped and repetitive, but I’m just explaining why it’s happening
If you think about it, this trial and the results from it were the proverbial strike 3 for Stolas. Now he's out.
Love seeing comments like these point this out :D
Ooo, that's a good take. You 180 my perspective on it.
100% agree, pretty sad you don't have more likes so danny can see it (really how he does anyways)
During the comet episode, one of Octavia’s lines hit hard: “you hate [Stella] more than you love me”
I interpret the non-hug from Stolas at the end as he's still processing his emotions, Blitz being so warm and kind to him is a new experience, and he probably feels guilty because he got what he wanted, he got Blitz, but at the cost of Octavia.
He is looking at the mistletoe
@@FrancescaAkira89 LOL
This is literally the best reaction yet! I laughed and smiled so much!
Millie's pregnancy was the most unexpected, yet expected thing. Unexpected through the show. Expected through the episode
10:46 yeah its almost like every time Octavia has these insecurities, Stolas waits until she has a breakdown or lashes out to reassure her that he’ll always be there for her but doesn’t show any follow through in changing his behavior. He continues to neglect her feelings and make her feel like a secondary priority in his life. Like I love Stolas, but Octavia continuously struggling with those feelings says more about him than it does about her
And where is she supposed to learn emotional maturity from? Her dad? The guy who's so emotionally stunted he didn't learn he was gay until he was at least 17 years into being married? The guy who was taught to see himself as above everyone else who wasn't also royalty (which he absolutely does, even if he's a LOT better about it than the likes of Stella & Andrealphus)? Or maybe her mother?: A woman who is essentially a spoiled brat in an adult body? Like, Octavia is a character who thinks like a child because...
A) She's a child. Teenager-be-damned, a teenager is still a child and prone to thinking in ways that are childishly shallow. But the FACT that it's shallow doesn't make her feelings any less valid. She's operating on exactly what her life experience has taught her and no, she has not learned that the situation is more complicated than she thinks. How could she have learned that?
B) As a child, she learns her behavior from her parents. It is ENTIRELY on them how she turns out, and neither Stella nor Stolas, nor anyone in the Goetia is in a position to teach her to be more mature than this. It is unreasonable to expect her to handle this situation better when there's no one around to have taught her better. She's going to learn whatever Stolas and Stella teach her by example, and even the fact that Stolas hated Stella the entire time is obvious NOW, to US, it's NOT obvious to Octavia, who has spent the vast majority of her life under the false impression that her family was fine until Stolas cheated.
Which brings me finally to C) Octavia has no basis for thinking Stella is a terrible person. Her mother, her father and the Goetia are likely the ONLY people she has meaningfully interacted with in her entire life. By default, she, like every child, loves her mother. And even if she were to suddenly become aware of how bad Stella is, that love would still BE there. She can't just run away or do harm to Stella. And even if she could, that would still SERIOUSLY fuck her up. The story can't just take Stella out of the picture without hurting Octavia because those feelings are there, are very real, and are very valid. No matter who a kid's parent is, it fucks with them to have their parent just be removed from their life under any circumstances.
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I also think its ironic that he is still mad at blitz because he did save him himself when striker tried to kill him because blitz priority was his daughter that needed him in that moment just as much if not more . And exactly that is the reason blitz relationship with his daughter got stronger and stoles and his daughter weaker. I not even saying it needed to be this moment were he prioritized her but never really did and that is why this broke the camel's back.
@@AMK650
That's exactly correct, and you make a really insightful point here.
This comment and everyone replying to it is so right, but if I may add, Danny is still right that the writers don’t write her 3-dimensionally and that her character would be better if they did. Her arc is extremely repetitive and her character is poorly written in a lot of respects. As someone who went through a semi-similar situation at 13 (not as dramatic for sure, but still applies I think) I 100% understand Octavia’s feelings, but it would just be better is she had more feelings other than being mad at Stolas. Have her want him to be around her, have her resentful when he is in spite of herself, have her care about other things, something. And again all your points are so right for a situation like this, but the thing is, you can read that into it and be correct, but it doesn’t mean the writers wrote that into it. Overall more attention being paid to developing her character could actually build off of these things to make her a better character, and make this a better show tbh.
22:30, in Octavia defense, stoles could've explained the whole situation with blitz and her mom months ago, but he never bothered to properly explained it to her and now it come to a point where its too late
Anything he would’ve done would’ve ended up being spun around since the fandom wanted a “punish stolas arc” so it would’ve been “oh you hate mommy so much and love the imp you cheated with that you accuse her of being abusive and planning your murder? I don’t wanna see you again “
@@maryamtara2934That's *probably* not true. 1. Vivzie has repeatedly said that the entire general show and plot points have been written. Nothing for at least 6 months has changed the future of the show. 2. I as a child of divorce completely understand Octavia during this, I think most people who don't understand her haven't gone through their parents getting divorced or don't have very good media literacy.
Fr✨ he was constantly high on happy pills that he never talked with her all she sees is a photo of when she was young re reminding her on how they missed the lights together & a box FILLED with pills she has every damn reason to be upset
@@maryamtara2934 ignoring most of what you said - it's been well established that Olivia isn't exactly a fan of her mother. That's why she's so broken when she feels betrayed by her dad - because she feels like she lost the only person who ever cared about her.
If Stolas explained things to her a long ass time ago, things almost definitely wouldn't have gone this way.
@@arrowpaw1847
You know that’s not true the plots move around since there was the instagram posts that was considered a part of the lore but now its not canon you know creators maneuver the plot line right or are you so traumatized by your parents divorce you can’t grasp this concept?
Also do you know what’s worse than your parents divorce? Them NOT divorcing and living in misery together.
You've made it to a million, time for epic the musical
24:00 millie was almost given the death penalty in the last episode and how many times has Millie been close to death
I think millie's argument will be what if one day we get killed and our offspring is alone in this world with them at a young age
Without talking about the fact that they are not in a financial good place to have a kid
@@hellkaiser1366Not to mention a highly skilled imp assassin and a crime boss both having axes to grind against you specifically...not just presenting a danger to them being more vulnerable/off their game but the baby itself being a potential target of revenge.
I see Millie’s apprehension about being a mom being more so about the prospect of bringing a baby into a horribly flawed system. We saw her in the hotel episode with internalized racism towards herself that she’s not totally worked through.
I totally agree
And also maybe the fact that she might be scared having a baby and being pregnant will incapacitate her and take her away from her job, which was the thing that really helped her step out of that internalized racist perspective.
@@Shsy7573That is what I was thinking too.
She could also just simply not want kids, or at least, not want them quite yet. I really wish more fiction would have women decide that motherhood just isn't for them without demonizing said character. But sadly, society tends to continue to have a weird obsession over what we do or don't decide to do with our wombs.
@@AnInsideJoke It very well could be that as well! It would not ruin anything for Millie to just not want to be a mom. My perspective comes from the backstory we’ve gotten regarding her. No matter what ends up happening,I will still be a Millie fan.
22:04 this is the most real thing I've ever heard a TH-camr say
Not to comment about a certain musical on a video not about said musical but uuum Danny YOU'RE AT 1 MILLION YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!! EPIC TIME!!!
I think the main issue that Millie has with being pregnant is simply the fact that it'll get in the way of her job. Millie loves working at I.M.P. and being pregnant is going to prevent her from doing that to pretty much any extent for several months.
It's probably why she was being so insistent on doing the job. She wants to prove to herself that she can do it.
I wanna imagine it’s like Across the Spiderverse where there is a Spider-Woman who is both pregnant and on the front lines without impediment.
There’s also the fact she almost got executed literally the day the before
@@TheNinthGeneration1its a month later after the trial then sinmas comes
Or because they’re both not financially or emotionally stable to raise a baby. I guess Millie could live with her parents, but still they might not be ready to raise a child.
Ghost fuckers showed how Blitz damaged the company and their financial assets. Millie and moxy went broke I think and that’s why Millie was persistent to kill the family in this episode to save money
Before Millie met Moxxie, she was a complete mess. I think it's almost a given that she's scared and might not be ready. She's only been the person she is now with Moxxie, and she may not think she'd be a good mother, or worry that bringing a baby into the relationship - or even the possibility of one - might somehow change her relationship with him. He's not just her husband, he's also kind of her savior and hero. Or a combination of the two; she's not sure if she's ready, and she's worried that telling Moxxie that will impact their relationship.
25:20 One thing you didn't consider is that their line of work is dangerous and what would happen if they had a kid and millie/moxie got really injured....
Also considering they are a duo for their assassinations I would be going insane at home pregnant while my partner in life and murder who usually functions with me at his back is doing dangerous work without me.
And also just a (couple months ago?) blitzø blew all of their funds being depressed and hadn't paid them in weeks
25:43 bojack is the only show ive ever seen that did an abortion with no back and forth about if they wanted the baby or not and i appreciated that.
In the Magicians there is a case where they don't want to keep the baby, the father is a r*pist, it's clear cut that the baby needs to get gone. The hard part was getting the abortion. Getting rid of the spawn of a cruel deity is difficult.
i was just thinking about that! and every show i’ve seen where there was a back and forth, the person who didn’t want the baby is always convinced to have it bc the miracle of life and some shi. i personally hate it bc people always seem to think that people who don’t want children will just change their mind one day, or that people who don’t want children are immature somehow
It's what I appreciated about LetterKenny too. On a season finale (going to avoid spoilers for others) a character gets a call that the girl they were with was pregnant. Then the opening episode of the next season it was immediately cleared without push back or fighting. I know we won't get that with Millie but it would be cool if it was mentioned and then done with.
@@TKFTCabooseI didn’t expect to find a Letterkenny comment on a Helluva Boss video so that was a pleasant surprise to read!
This plot point was handled so simply and easily I forgot for a bit which characters that this even happened to, which is definitely the point that they were trying to make with it that it wasn’t ‘a big deal’ or an argument.
Sextina's song tho xD
As for the "Drugs" in the closet I am pretty sure those are mostly Empty bottles that have not been thrown away and for some reason been kept over the years that Stolas has been taking them. Which would make better sense then just having a TON of unopened bottles since they go bad after a year and should be replaced at that time.
21:58 "Honestly maybe I just hate teenagers"
Danny: TEENAGERS SCARE THE LIVING SH!T OUT OF ME!!
😂
MCR REFRANCE!!
WE ARE FINALLY HERE LETS FCKING GO GUYS, I NEEDED THIS MORE THAN MY NEXT BREATH
If they have that baby. We all know in the depths of our hearts that Moxxie's gonna carry that baby in one of those sling baby-carrier things.
Imagine the baby in a walker (a sling is more likely but still), Moxxie would be so invested.
200 pictures of the baby in each new scenario. The baby shifts and that's 20 more pictures.
Month late to saying this, but when I saw it came out my first thought was "Wonder what Danny is in the middle of, right now?" Because of COURSE it's going to drop right as he was doing something.
Lmao not Danny running to his chair 😂
His fight with Vivzie will never end it seems-
Or with Alex Brightmen
8:54 imagine they're saving her budget for the song lol. Also the squeaks were bird trilling like how Stolas chirps when angry. Also agree with the song tangent. Because a big thing is that Stolas is going to be away from her for one hundred years. And she will have to grow and learn away from him and he will be away from her for that time and she'll have to live her life without him there. So the whole I'll be okay is her saying she'll move on from it
it took practically five seconds for octavia to incinerate andy's dragon imagine if stolas still had his powers
20:20 Danny I COMPLETELY AGREE with your 2x speed point made - I was disappointed that Octavia chose to totally shut Stolas out and stay so livid at him. Disappointed and not ready to forgive, I understand. Needing space and not ready to talk, I understand. But blowing up in his face again like that was a let-down, hitting repeat on what we've already seen.
Now, personally, I would have written that scene so she *quietly* walked away after saving Stolas, calmly but *firmly* establishing the boundaries needs with him right now, telling him *exactly* what she said in her song: That she's not okay, but she will be okay, even when he's gone. I'd keep everything else about Stolas being left alone and blocked out, just change that one little detail.
22:30 It feels repetitive because Octavia DID arc in previous episodes, but it was still in the back of her mind from where she didn’t trust Stolas at one point.
The reason it feels repetitive is because Stolas promised her that he wouldn’t leave her, which was basically the only thing consoling her, and she had the song because she felt like her trust had been broken right after regaining it and *she* felt like it was repetitive
Fr. The only reason it feels repetitive is because she trusts her dad.
Stolas ignores her - shes mad, Stolas apologises and promises not to do it again. She gets ignored again, he apologises and she forgives him again. She FINALLY realised her dad will continue to forget about her. She finally got it. Repetitions done. He can officially eff off, shes done with his lying.
Kids who go through this sort of thing act *exactly* like Octavia does.
I LITERALLY GASPED THEN MILLIE HOLD THE PREGNANCY TEST!!! No wonder she had this mood swings this ep. I had an idea that this could happen later in the series, but still it was a big surprise.
Definitely interesting my only concern is her reaction and making sure moxie new she loved him felt odd so hopefully shes just stressed and she didn't cheat on moxie
Honestly soon as she got sick it popped in my head. She had all the symptoms and teleportinf never bothered her before.
@lowellshadow If Millie cheated I'm done with the show. That'd be too stupid. I don't think she did specifically because it doesn't fit her character at all.
@sovietdoge.7369 i was thinking the same thing it would end the show for me i really hope she didn't but her reaction felt odd especially cause im sure moxxie would be happy
Dude... What? She obviously just doesn't want it. @@lowellshadow
Having her say “I will be okay” in reference to Stolas in episode 2 (I think) singing “You will be okay” 😭
I can imagine the prospect if having a BABY, YOUR BABY inside you must be overwhelming. Even more overwhelming that it’s not only your baby, but the love of your life’s baby. I never had a kid but I can imagine Millie wanting to take her time to process it before telling Moxie. Not because she doesn’t trust him but just so she is okay. Sometimes you confide in your family/friends first because it’s a little easier, considering that they’re not the ones who’s going to raise the kid with you.
Like, I can imagine a conversation between Millie and Blitz where Millie says she thought about being a mom and wants to be a mom, but wants to first process the whole thing before telling Moxie. And I can imagine Blitz hearing her out before hugging her as she cries (not sad tears just overwhelmed), reassuring her with a smile.
I really like that! Normally, in media and online, we see the man’s reaction to being a dad after the woman has already found out and processed it. It’s nice seeing the woman’s side of it as she processes the whole thing. Especially in a context where she might want the kid! It shines a whole different light!
As a woman who had seen many pregnancies and is the oldest of many siblings and is working to be in the medical field within the pregnancy field.
Yeah, pregnancy can make you uncharacteristically mad. Pregnancy makes your hormones disastrously wacky wonky because you’re growing another human being as well as organs that didn’t exist beforehand, it’s not uncommon for these hormones to spike a lot of cortisol which is a stress hormone making it hard to keep your cool in situations where you wouldn’t naturally react in a negative way.
Now every-time your pregnant wife is upset about something it doesn’t necessarily mean to blame it on the hormones. But if she’s upset about something tiny and is viscerally upset about it for a reason that is very clearly unneeded, respect it, buts it’s alright to take it with a grain of salt.
Thank you for informing people
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18:43 "I'M NOT A FURRY-" IM LAUGHING SO HARD
Like we'd be kink shaming ^^
Yep Hes a furry lol
1:57 "zero chance this story is actually long and traumatic"
Danny, his mother died in a fire and was presumably trampled to death by horses, which is also the reason barbie wire wants nothing to do with him
CONGRATS ON 1M 🎉🎉🎉 now… about EPIC: th musical 😅😅😅😅
HE'S HERE FOR THE EVENT OF THE YEAR!!!
And now we wait for Danny to react to the entirety of Epic once the Ithaca saga comes out on Christmas
Exactly
Yes!
This episode wasn't just an emotional rollercoaster, it was a whole THEME PARK
Vivzie really said "Merry Christmas Danny, here's a peace treaty for a couple months."
it's gonna be at least a year, likely more till season three.
@waffle5489 Oh damn, a year? I was expecting more like 4-6 months 😭
@@eaglest0554 yeah, that stuff takes a long time, but viv did say they will drop some shorts in the meantime so not that bad.
Octavias line sauing "and when you're gonw I willl be okay" is referencing Stolas's first song in the entire show, You Will Be Okay. Octavias song is a response to Stolas's song/lullaby. Hers is even called I Will Be Okay.
I immediately picked up on that while watching the 1st time around. The significance is so important.
Octavia's song sent a dart through my heart. I'm the only daughter of a man who was around until I was about 9. After the divorce from my mom, he spiraled out of control and became much more severely mentally ill/unstable and addicted to drugs. I cut him out of my life at around 11 or 12. I had to realize that the dad I once had was gone- a husk of the man he once was. I couldn't continue torturing myself by continuing to give him my hope, unconditional love, and support. Every betrayal or lie would rip the scab off of an unhealable, gaping wound within my heart and soul.
So that line in Via's song "I'll grow older and you'll only know my name" made me ugly cry.
3:01 "nobody knows stolas better than i do" bro, you are a such fangirl, love it
27:24 the perfect laught, come on
He loves an owl
@@Nevertoleave he'll have an owlsona once he accepts being a furry...
But lete be real there are bigger stolas fans here ( yess i am one duh i love my birdboy)
Now THIS is how a reactor should be. Too many reactors are silent for the entire video and call that a reaction. This is a true reaction, someone that not only pays attention to the actual content but also discusses, theorizes and judges based on it.
Easy 10/10 If I could subscribe twice I would
Technically you could on Otaku anonymous! (Collab channel with nick where they do anime podcast; [helluava is also there near episode release])
exactly!! his reactions are the only ones i watch. and yet there are so many people that hate on him for talking too much...as if that isnt what a reaction channel is supposed to do
@@stardust_fallinglove Danny for these reasons if you looking for another good reaction channel Dylan is not in trouble has really good movie commentary he talks about directing choices and more technical parts of movies and is genuinely funny
if you want to give him extra support you could always sub to his second channel Honestly Brutal or his podcast Otakus Anonymous
@@spencerhardie5015 That's a good idea actually
24:26 she probably just knows that the baby won’t be safe
Yes, I’ve SEEN Millie get punched in the stomach before. THAT JUST CANT HAPPEN NOW. Having a child at this point in the show and in her life is difficult, and she’s nervous because the pregnancy wasn’t expected. That would make anyone overwhelmed.
@ THIS also like her job just is horrible for a baby (unless you want to teach the baby how to massacre once it’s out the womb) the baby is in no safe place especially in the ring their in or what they do as a job overall
There's also a lot of powerful people trying to kill them now, between Striker, Crimson, and now Andrealphus and possibly Mammon thanks to their connection to Fizz they have a lot of very dangerous enemies that would have absolutely no issue stomping a baby to get to them
@@myname9130THIS. They are a target, financially low, and are in CONSTANT danger.
@@myname9130 exactly, so maybe she’s just worried for the child’s safety and is scared to tell moxxie so he doesn’t worry as well, and then also what would her parents think? Poor Millie
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