Thanks for sharing your real world experience with autobahn driving. Your ID.3 is remarkably stable and quiet on the autobahn. The autobahn driving reveals that the MG5 is an old Roewe FWD fossil car converted to BEV. The MG5 noise, suspension and drag are a generation behind the MEB platform. I am looking forward to your test of the new MG Marvel. I expect that will be noticeably more modern but a lot more expensive.
Traditionally, MPH/KPH best range figures always were considered 56mph or 90kph, ie the best compromise of speed/distance - Whilst your speed is very realistic as a max for much of Europe it would be nice to see the 90kph stats from you as well for driving economically and getting best range, especially as it seems very difficult to emulate 130kph average, it involves lots of hard acceleration to keep getting back up to that speed. Certainly manufacturers claimed kph and power usage could not be used critically in conjunction with your findings at least, they are pretty meaningless as WLTP range has an average speed overall of about a third of your speeds I think. A vehicle traveling at 90 kph (25 m/s) with a Cd of 0.35 and a frontal area of 2.2 m² requires a force of 288.75 N to overcome wind resistance; at 120 kph that force increases to 513.33 N, or nearly double - thats a lot of wasted energy if you are trying to stretch range or just maximise range and that area is probably the single greatest issue for existing or potential EV owners. Could you try it on a test? Boringly for you of course it has to be both ways.
You have cruise control set to auto. That's why it doesn't hold steady speed. But you're asking too much from it. EVs are not meant to be driven so fast. Especially the cheaper ones with small batteries. Driving at a more sensible 100km/h will give better results. Not only because of the reduced load but also because of the reduced drag. Above 120km/h drag increases dramatically.
Totally serious question: Where can I purchase a copy of Ascent of the Fallen & Fallacy? I cannot listen to them on TH-cam anymore as it seems only the teasers are posted. I will gladly pay!
Warum sollen 220 Wh/km bei 130+ km/h schlecht sein? Nenne doch bitte ein E-Auto, dass diesen Wert unterbietet, bei der Geschwindigkeit schafft das gerade einmal ein Tesla, wobei es auch genügend Tests gibt, bei denen das Model Y (das hier mit dem MG wohl am ehesten vergleichbar ist) 240+ Wh/km bei 130km/h auf der Autobahn verbraucht, was deutlich zeigt, dass bei E-Autos mehr Faktoren für den Verbrauch relevant sind als bei Verbrennern (und nein, ich habe keine Verbrennerbrille auf). Also bitte sachlich bleiben, 25-29 KWh auf 100 km sind heute bei den allermeisten E-Autos mit 130+ km/h die Realität, und da schlägt sich der MG5 im Vergleich recht ordentlich.
Weil die Durchschnitts Geschwindigkeit sehr niedrig war. Heißt: ich bin nicht lange 130 kmh gefahren. Deswegen sollte der Verbrauch viel geringer sein.
If, in my MG5 LR (61kWh) pre-facelift car, I can achieve 225 mile range on a 302 miles (483k) journey (aircon, KERS3 and Econ mode) where 83% is motorway at 70mph (112kph) with wind and some heavy rain, in comfort and only a little wind noise, is it all down to the larger wheels on the new model making the ride harder, road noise louder and range reduced? They do seem to be to blame for the 0-60mph (0-96kph) acceleration reducing by about a second.
The 5 is my 6th EV in 6 years, and when compared to my previous Nissans and Renaults it's efficiency for general driving stacks up well. Over the last year 25,000 miles I've averaged 4.4mpkWh which isn't too shabby at all. What lets it down at higher speeds is the rear underbody aero, because essentially there isn't any, just a huge void and the rear bumper hanging down like a sail...
At last an honest review on the 2022 mg5, unlike pat on wheels, I was hoping this was going to be my first full electric car as prefer station wagons ,👍👍👍
Good test. One thing to keep in mind is that MG speedmeter is really accurate ( When you drive at 130 speedmeter , you drive at 130 gps. When an e Niro is at 125 gps speed, idon t know for other cars though) so it can change a lot Of data from the tests… have a good day
Interesting your title card which I disagree with as I've seen James of James & Kate in the UK on their TH-cam video uses this same vehicle as his EV service vehicle and loves it got great range but then the UK has speed limits. The Autobahn I've heard with your new government may be getting speed limits applied as well. I'd rather see a 100-110km/h range test which is more what most countries have for freeway/motorway speed limits.
@@TassieEV By German Standards it is. 130 km/h is official "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (recommended Speed) on the Autobahn. Personally, since I switched to an EV, I already reduced my typical traveling speed from 160 in a Diesel to 120-130 in my electric car - but the slower you go, the more of a road block you become and travel will be rather annoying. Either stick to normal travel at 120+ (130 recommended) or stay behind trucks doing 90.
@@TommyBoay That's way too much in my eyes, i have no idea what went wrong ? They had so good experience with their KIA EV6 Niro ! How can it be that the E-Niro gets just as good range with a 60 kwh battery as an EV6 with a 77 kwh battery ? There must be a way for them to brng the consumption down to about 21 kwh at 130 kph by tweaking the driving software and reducing roll resistance a little in the 2023 model year, especially if they are adding the battery pre conditioning feature to get better charging speeds, which will, further increase the consumption if that feature is used. Tesla did that several times just through OTA Updates ! KIA should be capable of doing that also !
@@cf6965 I generally agree with you but a few facts that need to be stated : 1/ My consumption was on a colder day than this video. About 10 degrees. 2/ The EV6 is a big and quite premium car making the weight quite significantly higher than the Niro. 3/ The amazing charging curve has probably been the biggest focus, more than the engine efficiency. But as you said, if it is something they can enhance later, then it might have been smart to get the curve right before anything else. In my view, the EV6 provides a sufficient highway range between two charges to make the stops feel “natural”.
great review again 60kw what expect. And no heatpump ouch! same deal on the Marvel R size 70kw to small for car size. Mg4 that is commin already is a no go with the aftherthot stickon interior cant call it a cockpit ty dit not build one just a block where ty gleu on the stering and infotainment
Question is what not good enough is. For the money you will not get better value. Any car at 130 is not that efficient, from a efficiency standpoint the car performs better than average at lower speeds on the highway. Therefore this autobahn test is not that useful, I rather see the 1000km challenge from bjorn what it achieves there.
@@BatteryLife well your test says this. Other tests report better figures. Like 165 at 100 or better. Maybe the sweet spot has been surpassed at 130. Still value for money does anything beat it at the moment?
Playing around with the camera while switching trough the menu at 135 kmh in live traffic... Thank you for making german streets safer. That should cost your drivers license in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience with autobahn driving. Your ID.3 is remarkably stable and quiet on the autobahn. The autobahn driving reveals that the MG5 is an old Roewe FWD fossil car converted to BEV. The MG5 noise, suspension and drag are a generation behind the MEB platform. I am looking forward to your test of the new MG Marvel. I expect that will be noticeably more modern but a lot more expensive.
Lol, yeah, because the ID 3 weight like a pig compare to the MG5. If that extra lead is what you need to settle down the suspension. Sure..
Traditionally, MPH/KPH best range figures always were considered 56mph or 90kph, ie the best compromise of speed/distance - Whilst your speed is very realistic as a max for much of Europe it would be nice to see the 90kph stats from you as well for driving economically and getting best range, especially as it seems very difficult to emulate 130kph average, it involves lots of hard acceleration to keep getting back up to that speed. Certainly manufacturers claimed kph and power usage could not be used critically in conjunction with your findings at least, they are pretty meaningless as WLTP range has an average speed overall of about a third of your speeds I think. A vehicle traveling at 90 kph (25 m/s) with a Cd of 0.35 and a frontal area of 2.2 m² requires a force of 288.75 N to overcome wind resistance; at 120 kph that force increases to 513.33 N, or nearly double - thats a lot of wasted energy if you are trying to stretch range or just maximise range and that area is probably the single greatest issue for existing or potential EV owners. Could you try it on a test? Boringly for you of course it has to be both ways.
I just bought the car and already with after 500 km my standar range is now 450+
409 with 80 % and im always driving with speed of 80-90
i think for the price, this is still a decent car.... and its a stationwagon!
Nice looking car, actually. Also interior design 👍
MG has just entered the EV market, better models are definitely coming soon!
You have cruise control set to auto. That's why it doesn't hold steady speed. But you're asking too much from it. EVs are not meant to be driven so fast. Especially the cheaper ones with small batteries. Driving at a more sensible 100km/h will give better results. Not only because of the reduced load but also because of the reduced drag. Above 120km/h drag increases dramatically.
Totally serious question: Where can I purchase a copy of Ascent of the Fallen & Fallacy? I cannot listen to them on TH-cam anymore as it seems only the teasers are posted. I will gladly pay!
Sorry, no CDs anymore. I can upload the album's for you to download. Send me an email.
Warum sollen 220 Wh/km bei 130+ km/h schlecht sein? Nenne doch bitte ein E-Auto, dass diesen Wert unterbietet, bei der Geschwindigkeit schafft das gerade einmal ein Tesla, wobei es auch genügend Tests gibt, bei denen das Model Y (das hier mit dem MG wohl am ehesten vergleichbar ist) 240+ Wh/km bei 130km/h auf der Autobahn verbraucht, was deutlich zeigt, dass bei E-Autos mehr Faktoren für den Verbrauch relevant sind als bei Verbrennern (und nein, ich habe keine Verbrennerbrille auf). Also bitte sachlich bleiben, 25-29 KWh auf 100 km sind heute bei den allermeisten E-Autos mit 130+ km/h die Realität, und da schlägt sich der MG5 im Vergleich recht ordentlich.
Weil die Durchschnitts Geschwindigkeit sehr niedrig war. Heißt: ich bin nicht lange 130 kmh gefahren. Deswegen sollte der Verbrauch viel geringer sein.
No worse than an ID3 then and cheaper into the bargain. The MG4 will be interesting.
Sorry no, completely different world when it comes to driving, suspension, noise Level.
If money is your main concern, go for it.
If, in my MG5 LR (61kWh) pre-facelift car, I can achieve 225 mile range on a 302 miles (483k) journey (aircon, KERS3 and Econ mode) where 83% is motorway at 70mph (112kph) with wind and some heavy rain, in comfort and only a little wind noise, is it all down to the larger wheels on the new model making the ride harder, road noise louder and range reduced? They do seem to be to blame for the 0-60mph (0-96kph) acceleration reducing by about a second.
The 5 is my 6th EV in 6 years, and when compared to my previous Nissans and Renaults it's efficiency for general driving stacks up well. Over the last year 25,000 miles I've averaged 4.4mpkWh which isn't too shabby at all. What lets it down at higher speeds is the rear underbody aero, because essentially there isn't any, just a huge void and the rear bumper hanging down like a sail...
Are there any aftermarket parts for this area?
Fastned 👌
Still better range than my e-Golf at 150 kmh gps on the autobahn, and faster charging, so maybe a good replacement in 2,5 years
But isn’t the e-golf a 22kwh pack ? If so, the MG5 doesn’t deserve a medal in doing better range ! 😅
@@TommyBoay e-golf also got 36 kWh batt
@@precise-mumble mk 7.5 is 36kwh mk7 is 22
At last an honest review on the 2022 mg5, unlike pat on wheels,
I was hoping this was going to be my first full electric car as prefer station wagons ,👍👍👍
Consumption is indeed a bit too high given it's a stationwagon. I think the motor isn't powerful enough so it's running at higher levels.
It's too loud
Did this guy just say he didn't understand why a tyre delivering the drive would be at a higher temp than one that isn't? That's concerning.
Thank you for your insight and not trying to put someone else down if he doesn't know something you know.
@@BatteryLife Oh dear...
You turn on the MG Pilot by pulling the cruise control handle twice towards you.
Thanks, tried it in the Marvel r
Good test. One thing to keep in mind is that MG speedmeter is really accurate ( When you drive at 130 speedmeter , you drive at 130 gps. When an e Niro is at 125 gps speed, idon t know for other cars though) so it can change a lot Of data from the tests… have a good day
I always do my test at GPS speed, not what the speedometer shows. Measured it here as well.
@@BatteryLife ok great then ! Sorry i didn t know if you were aware of this 😅😅
I even mention it in the video 😉
@@BatteryLife damn i missed that part, my apologies 🙏🙏
The bug is still there - 70 speed limit is flashing but it means 120Kph not 70mph
I see that your tire pressure is 2.8 bar, is it normal?I think it is a little bit high, for this reason car maybe bumpy.
No idea. Very possible. But I think it is more the suspension.
It is ok, but not good.
Nach dem Video habe ich „Tesla Y 130 km/h“ gesucht. 20,4 kWh bei 116 Schnitt.
Interesting your title card which I disagree with as I've seen James of James & Kate in the UK on their TH-cam video uses this same vehicle as his EV service vehicle and loves it got great range but then the UK has speed limits. The Autobahn I've heard with your new government may be getting speed limits applied as well. I'd rather see a 100-110km/h range test which is more what most countries have for freeway/motorway speed limits.
They do slow speeds. I do 130
@@BatteryLife Depends if you call 110km/h or 70mph slow not that much less than 130km/h.
@@TassieEV By German Standards it is.
130 km/h is official "Richtgeschwindigkeit" (recommended Speed) on the Autobahn.
Personally, since I switched to an EV, I already reduced my typical traveling speed from 160 in a Diesel to 120-130 in my electric car - but the slower you go, the more of a road block you become and travel will be rather annoying.
Either stick to normal travel at 120+ (130 recommended) or stay behind trucks doing 90.
Whats the car next to the mustang at the charge station?
Are those two prototypes Austin Martins? It looks like it.
I think xpeng p7
Mit den kleineren Felgen wären sich die 20 kWh wahrscheinlich ausgegangen. Find den Verbrauch eigentlich ok.
Nicht bei der niedrigen Geschwindigkeit. Ich bin oft weit unter 130 gefahren
mg pilot works with double move the stalk to you
Thanks
22 kwh doesn't seem that bad to me at 130 kph , the KIA EV6 seems to be even more electricity thirsty if I am not mistaken.
Correct. An EV6 RWD consumes about 23kwh at that speed. But it will go much farther on a charge with the 77kwh pack.
Ev6 is way bigger. I expected in those conditions 200 Wh/km
@@TommyBoay
That's way too much in my eyes, i have no idea what went wrong ?
They had so good experience with their KIA EV6 Niro !
How can it be that the E-Niro gets just as good range with a 60 kwh battery as an EV6 with a 77 kwh battery ?
There must be a way for them to brng the consumption down to about 21 kwh at 130 kph by tweaking the driving software and reducing roll resistance a little in the 2023 model year, especially if they are adding the battery pre conditioning feature to get better charging speeds, which will, further increase the consumption if that feature is used.
Tesla did that several times just through OTA Updates !
KIA should be capable of doing that also !
@@cf6965 I generally agree with you but a few facts that need to be stated :
1/ My consumption was on a colder day than this video. About 10 degrees.
2/ The EV6 is a big and quite premium car making the weight quite significantly higher than the Niro.
3/ The amazing charging curve has probably been the biggest focus, more than the engine efficiency. But as you said, if it is something they can enhance later, then it might have been smart to get the curve right before anything else.
In my view, the EV6 provides a sufficient highway range between two charges to make the stops feel “natural”.
great review again
60kw what expect. And no heatpump ouch!
same deal on the Marvel R size 70kw to small for car size.
Mg4 that is commin already is a no go with the aftherthot stickon interior
cant call it a cockpit ty dit not build one just a block where ty gleu on the stering and infotainment
Question is what not good enough is. For the money you will not get better value. Any car at 130 is not that efficient, from a efficiency standpoint the car performs better than average at lower speeds on the highway. Therefore this autobahn test is not that useful, I rather see the 1000km challenge from bjorn what it achieves there.
220 Wh/km at an avg speed of 113 km/h in these conditions is not good.
I have tested many cars.
@@BatteryLife well your test says this. Other tests report better figures. Like 165 at 100 or better. Maybe the sweet spot has been surpassed at 130. Still value for money does anything beat it at the moment?
Playing around with the camera while switching trough the menu at 135 kmh in live traffic... Thank you for making german streets safer. That should cost your drivers license in my opinion.